question why? like reading the disclosures on it's area? really? foundation the oh, i'm sorry. the height of the top stories on alex's era in breaking news. lebanon's has been the group has 5 bars of rockets into northern israel. the salvo settle sirens, and 8th is ready. towns and villages israel says around the 2 rockets the fight and that it's from, it's on the defense system. and since it's some of them now there have been no reports of casualties, sorry, fall in a statement. hezbollah says it was retaliation against israel's, the times on southern villages in 11 on also bank has moved from large ion we have

had a lot in the last few days talking to target to my visual surveillance equipment. so that could be some of the reasons these rockets are getting through the, the, the video, the images that we're seeing. you can see the rockets going through the end making impact and that's quite significant. and in previous days we have had, has blah old sol launch drones further into drops. so right now what it seems like is that into the citric attack that has the law has known as the response to israel to attack on $711.00 on. but what signature can do that? so many of these rockets have money should get to at least and i make impacts on what we can see. we've been hearing jones all day and most of them by when we were here, the drones overhead is right. you drones, so the, in the state of hyper civilians. but what happened is that the that gets into and

as is right away, is laws promised response to the beginning of the senior. come on the slide show kind of policy and say know what is safe in the gaza strip itself to is ready forces or did thousands of palestinians to leave the shelters in hon. eunice as well as continuing its bombardment and southern gaza. 2 days, often more than a 100 people were killed in one of its biggest attacks. the runs nuclear. what stokes is your, its largest nuclear power plant and ukraine is still safe, despite the cooling tower being damaged in a fire. in a separate statement, russia and ukraine, and as far as he's concerned the damage, as a result. but ukraine's presence says, with radiation indicates is on normal. only residents keep lanes russian troops for licensing the blaze, the russians occupied the plant. now they blamed the file on ukrainian chalet and say it's under control, or russia's defense ministry is release footage of what they say, all strikes on ukrainian tanks and john drones raw the in because region you cranes

military made a surprise attack into weston, pulse of rushes, coast region on tuesday, russia has deployed extra forces to start ukraine's advances, because the reason contains nuclear, oil and gas power problems which distribute electricity into southern russia. a funeral has been held for one of the children killed and a nice to talk in the british town of south fort 9 year old alice guy and 2 other young goals died wallets. adults workshop in july, riots were spawns across the u. k. by full suggestions, the suspect indicating was in unity arrived at migrant. nearly 200 fights as have been deployed to contain fires, burning ne athens residence and the village of art in the voss have been ordered to evacuate. because strong winds on making the situation. wes, hundreds of people have been evacuated from a hotel in australia all through a heavy coat to crashed into the roof. it happened in the north eastern city of

cans just before 2 in the morning. local time, emergency official site mangled pieces, the helicopters, propeller landed in the hotel pool off to the cough crashed and burst into flames. 2 people are in hospital. mystery. owns his bank, sees on valves, his latest street creation, and the case capital. a school of fish pops up on a police century books rather in london, making it look like an aquarium is the substance installation. and the animal themes series of alt works released in the past week. and so the power as to lympics of ended off to 2 weeks relates competition. the closing ceremony was a more traditional spectacle. unlike the opening one along the river, sent us top the metals table with host front securing the biggest hole since 1900. there's the latest headlines. the news continues here on out is there off the head to head the

from ukraine to gauze us the world seems more divided on upsets and that it's being fee is global powers at the west of the lines that have been put to the test. and the mid the turmoil china is rising to challenge the world war to try and as president, she didn't think now when is the time in office has high emissions shown to job? well, i'm gonna tend to keep hearing $5.00 shop in place for the hot territorial disputes of spock's fee is of a logic complex that could have regional and global implications. you haven't approved the wizard including and the contested was, is the south china sea or in the taiwan

with the front of a chinese military page of the logic. we want a home attack, some basic freedoms in human rights to severe like and should turn with china, continues to commit serious human rights abuses. some say a jetta side against the we give us. so how far will china is autocratic? vision reach and will long simmering to mention with the west point. i'm mary hudson, and i've come here to london legendary conway whole to go head to head with the vic to get these vice president the send of a china in globalization in beijing form an interpreter for the late chinese, the, the thing, champagne and a proud defender of the people's republic, i'll ask you about china is global ambitions, and it's a relative prac, down on human rights and civil tonight, i'll also be joined by 3 experts. steven china,

professor at the university of london school of oriental and african studies. re hot outside the human rights lawyer of we get heritage a mountain jakes all sort of the best seller when china rules the world and the political commentator on china the to go. thank you so much for joining me on a headset this evening here in london. thank you for having me. china has updates military spending. it's expanding its nuclear arsenal. it now has the biggest navy in the world, chinese presents. she didn't ping a said that the country's military should be capable of quote, fighting and winning was, i'm told the military to focus all your energy on fighting, improve your paper, bill it to, to win. victor, who do you want to fund?

and who do you want to win against? the 1st of all, the chinese military spending is the 2nd largest in the world. but it is only a fraction of that of the united states. and china has a very difficult deal political situation in town as 14 land the neighboring countries altogether, and 6 maritime nations for china. therefore, china's defense defensive in nature is not 4 or 5 to anyone except those who want to evade try the all to launch a war against trying channels mandatory spending as well. peace rather than war and war will be false. the pond, try 9, try 90 to my back. you say it's for peace, but your neighbors don't agree. your neighbors are pretty worried about you. you go through the list. japan. sounded the alarm single military build up is very serious concern to them. india is worried about china on its boulder and the philippines president as one that china is becoming a more pronounced. and to worry some threats. he says,

those are the elected governments of countries representing of a 1600000000 people in asia. this is not the united states, this is not the west to 0 asian neighbors saying, well, worried about china. in the you mentioned the 3 of the neighboring countries of china. let's talk about one of the one each of them very quickly. japan unconditionally surrender. not only to the united states, but also to china in 1945. and if you read very carefully the unconditional surrender document that japan signed, then you will know how to pen need to conduct its foreign affairs, as well as it's something that's a troops with china and with all those countries that japan unconditionally surrendered for india is a great nation, and there is a territorial dispute between china and india, but that dispute was not created by china. my, the was it created by india. it was created or left behind by the bridge is indian

the government. that's great history, less than right now. china, in 2024. the defense spending is going up by 7 percent the most for 5 years. you've had 20000000 consecutive years of military expenditure growth the most of any country in the world since 2022. china has increased military drills around taiwan . it's escalated since the new ty, when he's president, was a no great inmate. china is not a fan of him. since then it's been almost daily activity involving china's warships, drones. cyber attacks against probably one china is getting ready to invade taiwan is that there was only one china. taiwan is part of china and the government of the people's republic of china is the sole digital bit to government for the totality of china. the exact status between the 2 sides of the taiwan strait is the only finished the civil war back in 1949. so ever since the beginning of the 90 these kinda 1000, i want to use

a war to solve this unification problem. you don't want to use of war, but you surrounding it with ships drones, cyber attacks and making lots of threats each time when the separatists in taiwan to push the edge of the envelope. they will come across more and more of demonstration of the commitment of the chinese nation to eventually achieve peaceful reunification or otherwise. that's the lead. most tests your defense minister said anyone to test to pursue independence for taiwan will be crushed into pieces and face destruction. sounds like a truly peaceful got and that's a real statement because i know it is a separatist if they're separate. it is really wants to push the edge of the envelope with the aid of some big country, for example, which wants to use taiwan as a proxy in its own geo political rivalry against china. then wait until you'll see what will happen. you really, if occasion, will be a chief in china, is the only a permanent member of the united nations to go to the council,

which has not yet achieved a complete unification. well, i'm why i'm always amazed with this phrase, reunification because of it's one china that clearly is not one china. clearly you're accepting by definition. if you need to re unify, they all doing their own thing. and why this obsession with taiwan, you are country of 3700000 square miles of population, 60 times out of taiwan economy. 22 times the size of taiwan. why you obsessed with taiwan? why don't just leave them be in terms of defending trying to sovereignty. and the territorial integrity, any inch of land is not one teach too much. any one single person is not one person too many. so we need to achieve reunification as because they don't want to be part of your country. 12 percent of the people of taiwan say they want to reunify what china 12 percent, that they can't get more unpopular than that. and maybe it's not up to the people in taiwan to decide about the one china policy. you're very blunt and you disregard

people's views. freedoms, dignity, you say that you don't care about what they think. you're also sending it into the french newspaper, them on. once we get the island back, we'll have to ask everyone's origins. those who have japanese ancestry. so you basically, so you can just comes to view 10 percent of the population will have to pledge royalty to re unification in writing. otherwise we'll have to help them leave. you're basically calling for the ethnic cleansing of 2300000 people in taiwan. now you remember back in 1945, when japan unconditionally surrendered a lot of people. li, taiwan, who originally came from japan. they were the rulers of a type one at the time they stayed behind because of the mac. and then me to of the chinese nation now or several decades later, they account for about 10 percent of the population in taiwan. now, if you really do your homework, you will realize that those by how the tie, one of these separatists include the many of these japanese being based on the

problem, is that okay, when you would get rid of them, you would go to 2300000 people know after the reunification, everyone being taiwan need to make a pledge without the knowledge there is only one. china and taiwan is part of china . and if they don't mind that pledge all around those who pledge, well for the one child the policy, the local, you didn't by the way, you didn't say everyone, the set of japanese descent that is literally, i think like you're picking people by the ethnic heritage, make them do a loyalty test, otherwise they have to get out of the country. that is another long as you just kill. for example, in brittany, if you all reduce it to you just support the monarchy. you cannot say, i owe you coming in britain. i don't suppose i want to see, i don't like think charles smote, you'll come in to say, no. i just said, maybe i literally just said you cannot take any action to oppose the amount of cases. i don't have to sign a pledge saying i support control. so each country is different. yeah, we all talking about children. the china is very in. china has one policy which is part of the constitution goals. everyone, people in taiwan who don't want to be part of your country. let's bring it all

panel who are waiting to come and enjoy to see what they think i'm doing by stephen chan. professor the university of london, school of oriental and african studies. if you're in taiwan today, how worried are you about looming invasion? i'm not in tie. well, today i'm going to be visiting next year. i'll be in the 5 times in a lot of the great cities of taiwan. and what i've noticed most conspicuously is that nobody have talked who wants to rejoin, will be unified with china because of that sense of freedom and a sense of self determination. so i think that if you go to say how sovereignty matters more than your design for your own self determination and freedom that you're doing something that will not make you popular in taiwan. and you weren't than the argument for chinese cell frontier over the island mountain. the mountain texas here was also the best selling. but when china rules the world mounted, you said in the past the china cannot, should not be seen through a solely west and lamps. so i, i agree with you and this is a issues the, but i big on the ship asking victor about japan and india and the philippines

separate sty wants to issues in the region. do you think china is responsible for some of those issues? all of those issues, none of those issues or ton, is obviously involved in inevitably in order to ins, issues. and i think the to the actually, if you look at the rise of china over the last 3040 years, spectacular, biggest change we ever see in history. and inevitably, that is changing everything in the region have in the world. that doesn't a bit. the remarkable thing i'd say magic, the batch chinese royce is how you've purchased the ministry things and so on. but china has not fault any, was since 1979. if you compare that with america, europe, japan, at the same stage of development, they were, they were extremely aggressive. um, let's talk human rights act. you've cooled, regus in china is ginger and province,

your brothers and sisters. how do you feel about the fact that at least half a 1000000, some say more of your brothers and sisters being detained, encompassed by the chinese government. as 5 percent of the adult, we got population one of the highest imprisonment detention rates in the world. maybe the wiggles, a proud ethnic group, one of the $56.00 ethnic nationalities in china. the wiggles as far as i'm concerned on my true brothers and sisters. i know many of the i traveled issue in general regularly, and i talked to many of the wheels. now, if anyone is serious about accusing china of practicing mass injustice to the wiggles, gives me the evidence. i think it's human rights. what say half a 1000000 people detained over the as me some your cheap cold, fuming rights watch. and i tell you, do you know what they've gotten? has done this for me. i do kind of tell you, i know i thought you were the expert, are you interested in joining? has spoken to me cuz you never had these numbers. i do not know where the,

the get the saw. so that's all so you shouldn't shanghai people's procure rhetoric which cause published defense that distinctions on official buddy which says it's convicted $540826.00 people prosecuted. and the reason says 2017, the united nations office for human rights looked of satellite footage. they say 10 to 20 percent of the population. i'm just the estimates a 1000000 people in comes off or millions of conservative number. maybe if you quote that to organization, please be assured that organization has been completely discredited for the false information to the airport. so use this, i love this game would play your give me your thoughts. i give you a sol discredited face that faucets, maybe how can one's let me ask you a question. how many people are in detention engine? how do you give me a number? isn't if you let me know, you can just give me a number. if you look at, i do not have the number one. 0 yeah, hold on. you can say it's not half a 1000000 and then so you don't have a number. i have a number of sources. like how many people do you think it did? let me give you my reason. no, no, no, i go to machine job a lot. i travel all. thank you for long distance. yeah. you go there a lot,

but the account tell me how many people are in defense of. they said they are happy and they enjoy their life. they enjoy that most of them practices and traditions live. how many people are in detention? victor, maybe let me be philosophical know, don't be from the top of the new america. oh, how many people are in detention? you said not to know documented how about less than a quarter of a 1000000. let me let me, let me finish my point. nope. if you don't have a question, you don't filibuster, victor on this, you know, a meanwhile monroe mobil. do you, john independence. they will be dealt with in got it. how many of them are in question? how many defensive a very small minority, so you don't have a number. you say they're all happy, but you weren't let an independent investigators. you weren't that in german. this . why the why not? i love to go. yeah, i will be happy to escort you to jean junk. really. i can make that properly. i will speak to the germans. government is the problem of it certainly is that it wasn't at school. i don't mind is i want to go freely. will you allow that? i do not make that decision. oh, a little bit ago you are going to make all sorts of drugs. finally, i said,

let me go freely and speak to week is freely can i do that with no mind is i'll be how tiny is government school. i will be happy to make your case. oh, just now you said you'd organize it. now if i make a case make are in the right hand side is a senior fellow at the atlantic council international human rights. lord, you are a we go uh who victor says, brothers and sisters. your little brother has been helped him in time and camping, changing since 2016. i believe ran. tell us what happened to your brother and what is your response to victoria what you've heard. and what is the latest on your brother if you don't mind sharing with us? yeah, my brother bar as that as a problem, the tech on support, in fact, your own media outlets colton bright start in the tech world right before his detention he was in light is on the stage gala dinner and then he disappeared. how could explain now many, again in china we have about 20 muslim ethnic groups. you need to ask one question, why the extremism existed,

mostly among the legal communities. because there are extreme is among the legal community who want to separate shame. don't away from your brother, being convicted of him, cottage by c, i a at of the west. the nice. okay. right. yeah, that's the real to hold on. hold on to the hallmarks, they don't support it as your brother being convicted of a crime according to you and there's no trial has taken place. he just forcibly disappeared, oxycodone lost in force disappearance, but of course he was trying to call him and he committed a crime of inciting ethnic discrimination. while he's the systematically a prize. and when i tell him that decision, because under the chinese law, if you're committed with the alleged crime that you, you have 3 is sentence, but he got 15. how do you? and just by that, then they switch the client. so how do you even explain this as a rule of law system? you mention that if people are not pulling dependent, then they're fine. and shouldn't john? my brother, by no means is poor, independent, in fact,

nor media out that says the media in whites to hunt exchange information. the he split the country or when he visited, basically the day with the treatment of her brother, by the, in front of this very old ghost about the let me make several very brief points. the real crime involved by some of the legal people agitating for change of independence. they violate the one china policy. now set separate 12 that, you know, different communities may find their own different problems which need to be solved, involved in the costs of law. and i hold on for all the time for ease. well, i mean, i know the judge. i hope i can help you to really look at the case of the accusation against him. yeah, i love your brother is not guilty of being citing for separatism of she conjunction reduces, that is the case then let the lol take its causal go your maybe i'll call him a model citizen who is the promoter of nick unity sion. john,

if he's been able to speak to a brother, so no, not at all, like, you know, for ages he's for, so they've disappeared up until like last month for the 1st time i pens saw him. what kind of just the system is that you're making a mockery, you know, to the that to the being tortured numerous testimony. do you and it's collected. are you okay with that many? when i talked about port, you think about what tumble be put on my wife's father, then teaching junk. she's young is a place of great peace and stability the account uh, hold on. i think for the accounts of detainees include being beaten with buttons, electric buttons will strap them a so called probably get you a $150.00 it being subjected to interrogation with what to put on the faces, prolong solitary confinement. forced to sit motionless on space for long periods like this, you are okay with this. this is a proud man of property. you are reading the case in iraq committee by the americans are really un ripple in august 2022 from detainees who came out of town

and should enjoy your brothers and sisters. but these promises, you don't seem to give a damn about. how do you know any torch i happen to know rock out of interest, and i know how i know for sure how i talked to the roxy ambassador named aging. okay. he wept in front of me and i'm showing greyhounds parents of wept, and you don't seem to care. and i hope you will tell your brother b, a staunch supporter of one child in a policy. be abroad. i cannot tell him, we'll probably tell him, tell him to she come speak to him because you do not. how does that make sense? because she call him speak to me. are you gonna arrange? you're gonna arrange a visit though. i'd be happy to help you. oh, no problem at all, because a lot of promises to be made here guys that you all the, all with the witnesses. indeed, let me bring in mountain checks and most of when you hear people say, basically there's no torture. everyone's making it up. there's nobody in detention come on. that's ridiculous, is not mountain well, i mean, i don't know all the details of the situation and you shouldn't try. but clearly there's been a big problem for a long time in change,

in terms of the relationship between the week and a half. and that came to a head in 2009. when there was a demonstration on 200 people were killed by the week by the week, and then they're trying chinese inflicted the same type of damage on that. so this is not, this is, this is a deep problem in my view. and it's not easy post office know the problem in china of this kind, but the people can see the big problem. that's a pretty big problem. so very big problem, but yeah, i book to the other thing that i'd say is that the point that's being made about separatism is true that i think that what the 30000000 muslims in china away is the biggest single majority they have. they all compete integrated. but the problem, the problem is you, john, is clearly the issue of separate cuz stevens. let me ask you this question. victor

is making a lot of promises tonight about me going to sion, janet and rand good intentions. i have everyone's, that'd be fine. and how, how safe, how okay, you with visiting china. how, how free do you think you are when you go to china? when i go to china and i haven't been for some time, i'm watched what was 247. there's always someone i can spot is trailing me so i know with my hotel room is upgraded suddenly to a spacious piece. now replace which is booked. so someone who the mild critic of the scholarly critic like me doesn't feel safe in china. i. by contrast, i feel safer and taiwan. think to when you hit stephen, say he doesn't feel safe. going to try to profess going to taiwan when we talk about freedom of speech. for example, in china, i live in the united states of america, where i can say that donald trump is a, i don't know, i pathetically, an orange face and offices. i also live here and you can british. here you have

where she threw that feet from the prime minister was called a point sized loser by label politician or no one in china has that kind of right freedom. just talked about the government to talk about president changing things in that way. you can't say anything about it, you wouldn't dare say anything like that because you know what will happen to you when you go, when you know what will happen to a family, that's what china is. maybe if you do any c, right, any c, e mail or chat to your friends about taking any action against? that's a problem is though, printing from the united states and inside will be dropped with the link to your must be high enough into i said, i said we should see. and it was called a pint sized loser. would you go? she didn't pick a pint sized least. maybe each country has different sensitivities. in your opinion, you called criticized the titles. got them all. no, no. you can criticize the government. if you a positive the you can criticize your gun, but if you'll positive yes. is that the new floss to know if you can come up with the all you're gonna come up with nice insults?

no, well, constructive advice because he's really excited about the value. for example, our loving dealing with the aging population. what should be the government do? what's your, this common i should do. what's your cost like the present in slide? he's a lawyer. not me will be dealt with very swiftly in china. you cannot say that that is the most honest thing. you're such a nice victim out. we're going to take a break that's part one of her head without guest, vic, to go in part 2 will be talking about president she didn't ping will be talking about the issue of dictatorship and we'll hear from a very patient audience here in london's come while discussing the defining issues of our times, we are the subject of a i, we are not the users of a i going beyond the artificial intelligence hyphen big tech propaganda to explore how to code the sites. an ethical ai though is racial bias is getting worse. you've got more of those in power. are the ones with the resources to decide where it's

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welcome back to head to head on how did everything lose my guess this week is victor dow, former interpreted to the late chinese e to den shopping vice president, the sense of the china and globalization in beijing and alden promoter of the people's republic were also joined by ex, but panel here in london, conway hole, and the live audience who were going to hear from shortly victor before we get to the audience in 2019 on this very show. i asked the question is changing, been gearing up to be president for life dictates in chief. i mean he's the most powerful leader of china since now. he's abolished presidential term limits. he's now in his 3rd 5 year term as president sol off again tonight. is he now president for life a true dictate for the recall? first of all, chinese president, she didn't, people will never be present for life. there will be a time limit when it will be, will be, had no, according to the chinese legal system and constitution. secondly,

there is no dictator in china. why? because dictatorship simply doesn't work. democracy means modernization. and how can you explain per find the transform ation of tried over the past 45 years in china. if you have dictatorship, author, retiree, and rule, no, every leader in china will be put into a t and t look will be much more important, shouldn't been done wrong. individualistic to maybe previous to probably president's. it may be james, a man or who's in to everyone know, sheets and paying a centralized power. consolidated power got rid of time limits. you say there's a way to get rid of him, but there isn't actually legal way to get rid of him. he's a powerful life and he likes being a dictator. why we pretend many allow me to remind you of the communist party of china, which is a routing body of china, has a membership of up to 100000000 people. you know, it's well structured. every probably has ever stayed on enterprise, etc. we'll have a lot of sale. there is no division or debate within the chinese communist bought

to listen to me. no single puzzle in china can dictate to a really relation of 1400000000 people. and 100000000 membership of the communist party of jobs. okay, let's start emission. let impulse, let's press that proposition. the president, one of the last year, one of the i'll put that in quotes. do you know the tale of last year's presidential vote in favor of she didn't bring by the national people's congress part of that structure. you just advertise to us. what was the vote? can you tell our audience here? i think it's up, up to about 100 percent. that does it in $2950.00 to $20.00. yes, that's exactly what i said. could you don't find a few people it just to make you look a little, even one or 2? many as far as surprising, it's about supply 95 to to 0. is the one model my 1st time the system ever was the pulse of the japanese president, 5 years just told of 10 seconds ago that this huge system, a big party one,

gotten any of our own of everyone's a boat to 0 votes against the one person out of $3000.00 couldn't say and changing pay not mike. one want to if he is the guy for all the communist party of china. the both of them, if that's the case, then your entire 1st officer is redundant because it doesn't matter. if there's a 100000000 people don't, they will have to follow the lead. no, he does come on future respect about the chinese people as well as your site would probably say for you. do you know how many names were on the ballot papers that were given in 2015? how many names were on the by the people in they went to choose present? can you tell our audience? i think there was only one candidate. yeah, no, no, no, no, of the names. that's a real, that's a real secure leader. a guy who knows he has the confidence of his people. you get to vote, but only for me and none of you can actually vote against me. maybe we do not want to end up in the situation with 6 prime ministers in the 18. yeah. yeah. so you prefer a dictatorship?

no, we prefer a system that works for the benefits of the chinese people have not said a word about what works on you got great. you can always look at the picture of a dictatorship. there is no dictatorship. maybe you just want me to a, there's no name on the ballot paper, no votes against him, and they all just follow him. that's a dictatorship. maybe when you have to find a multiple time after that, it's a big issue. how many candidates out there on the pallet paper? how many? well, typically, when the team succeeds the cri, yes. how many candidates out there on the bottom to pay? how many? how many does that make britain and not a democracy? well, you're asking the wrong guy on the republican, so i think we should be a full democracy and get rid of the bonus. and i can say that he, if you can say that in shot, you cannot take any action against yes, i cannot. you then got in the street, i can hold up a plaque out and say, let's get rid of king charles. i can create a whole protest outside buckingham palace. you can't do that in china. you can't even put one other person's name on a pallet paper. that's how insecure you'll lead or any. i'm a lawyer. in my capacity as a lawyer, i can give you

a long list of things that you cannot do regarding the amount of key here. and i'm not debating that i'm saying that we have an elective government. we get to choose, we get to swap 6 prime ministers. god help us. but we get to pick everyone in this room who's a citizen gets to pick this up. you end up with your media budget with the corrupt, the one that's upon installed. so victor, victor, i admire that because that's all this nonsense. your answer is it's a dictatorship. the works at least say that no, no, no, you call, you can dungeon you want me to use the duct tape, then i show you what it is you say, but it's working. we've got growth. many hic one. maybe if that is your part, i will seriously urge you to do more homework about how the chatting says the work . okay, let's talk about the new system because i did a little bit of homework a little bit at home. it's, it's, it's, did you know that she's in pain? put his name in the constitution, and that's weird. well, the leader of the country put his own name in the constitution while he's president . no one's done that since mouth. none of the other chinese presidents not

twitching towel, not your old boss. thing shopping, none of them did it. did they? what am i wrong? it's wrong. uh, who did the chinese constitution as the most frequent they amended compared with any other country. am i wrong about what i just said with my name was put into the account. so that's what i said. those name was put into nothing while he was president and jones. i mean, nobody was supposed to into the title while they were sitting presidents and you know, that tele crowd. you know, while they were president, they didn't do themselves according to my recollection each, although you'll recognize when i put the into the cars, not while they was the, the, those west still a life. okay, so i'm right model while they were president, though i love the little sled, even donald trump, one of the great narcissists about time has not proposed yet putting his name into the us constitution. if you are the president of china, you were elected without any opponents, no names on the ballot pay, but 0 votes against. do you put your name in the constitution? 6 year old, a talked about she didn't bring full in primary school. that is don't just the dictatorship. that is a cult of personality. i don't think china believes in personal. why

a 6 year old signing about? she didn't think so. i'm pretty sure with no 6 year olds learned about lives. trust is many bunch of big. the chinese system is such that why does your orient the country in one direction? everyone follows the see. what do they follow or they folder to follow and it's a lot of choice. now it's like a vehicle with 4 wheels. here you'll have full wheels, a line in different directions and opposing directions. in china, not the full wheels of a car, all lined up in one direction. i don't go, you could let me give you an example for, for the chinese well to inform a foreign minister in gun was removed from his post and was not being seen in public since june 2023, a few months later trying his defense minister generally shining through disappeared from public view for months without being expelled from the party, accused of corruption, that's at least to ministers that disappeared just in the last year. with apologies to oscar wilde to lose one minister might be unfortunate to lose to his careless.

is it not? do you know the point i want to make? this means china is really most of the same dealing with corruption of old cards even i'm, although i are administered indefensible. imagine and to me blinking and lloyd us to just disappear tomorrow. we don't know whether we never seen them again, that's not normal victor, this a corruption is run, put into how do we know that corrupt they just disappeared? withdrawal. and that's the problem. the initial, my point, corruption of all kinds, young child i need to be dealt with. so we have the trial mostly listen to the with the trial. the trial of the form, the form is that we don't even know where he is. maybe those things you don't know doesn't mean doesn't happen. where's the trial for this man? you're just accusing of corruption. jingle was my good friend for more than 20 years even. and he is involved in corruption. where is he? and he is dealt with various stuff. where is it? regardless of your good friends? oh no, no worries. regardless layers, you'll see a lot of it's already been if they've changed this is not a hard question. we're not asking. we're right hands, brother in the middle of shouldn't joining is it you conduct?

where's a former foreign minister of china who disappeared? and by the way, he wasn't accused of corruption. the spokesman came on said you have health reasons . then corruption came later by the way, where did he go? you'll find that means there is a process of the process, the process don't always one lie that he's health and then the next life he's corrupt. you may be, you never know. i mean, it's probably a little after he's been in a chinese pretty meal now and yeah, never know exactly, but at least where he's gone last is drunk to where is it of is corruption. last question better. the point, literacy is somewhere in china. you will never see him. he is, i'm on the one point. so 1000000000 people know it's still just him. as many other people have disappeared. the previous defense minister disappeared. the ministry of industry and technology disappeared. the full, the in to pull president is in china. you're just disappear if they don't like you . that's the rule of law and china. i'm so proud to be the does appear, because if they keep doing that job, they will bring great to these things to be careful what you wish will. cuz everyone's watching the show. and if you got something wrong tonight, maybe you disappear. if i it is a be, i hope you will bear with me out of to find you 1st in china is apparently

a big country. and i wanna bring in a, steven champ, professor at the university of london school of oriental african studies steven sheets and things, policies his crack down on dissidence. i mean, china was never a democracy of the president's role. so dick tutorials, but can we agree to exchange and things on the different level when it comes to refreshing at home, the consolidation of power? so you may disagree with victor description of him as part of a don't a full we'll carl driving in the same direction. happily. you certainly consolidated as paul. he is a very, very strong president. and i think that the real test of what of this is how tried it, has treated hong kong lucy increasing, clamped down on descent on free expression of opinion when they were meant to have a degree of freedom and a one country to system way of approaching life, we cannot see any evidence, a vibrant debate in china. and i love that part of the great disappointments of i live with without read chinese academic works. everyone, toes a party line,

no 1000 dependent research to publish. as of why do you think critical, for instance, not just jason thing. anything critical about chinese foreign policy? well, they might disappear, they might not get promoted in any case re, honda thought as a senior fellow, the atlanta counselor international human rights. lo ran in paul when we talked in depth about the repression against the week isn't your own personal situation in 2014, she didn't ping privately cold for an oil out trundle quote against terrorism, and to show absolutely no mercy after visitations. and how much do you believe she's in things driving what's happening in sion? janet how much do you think he's responsible for the repression in china? well, the model of the fact is that all of those happen undercurrent demonstration, right? so many scholars are attributing to him, it happened under history, and he's the one who said, absolutely no mercy and something on through some branches of the week of breaking up the connection and the so the policy is implemented under his leadership. so it's very hard to a separate shooting thing from the con, pulsation jones,

mountain jakes, or through the best selling. but when china rules the world, you, you heard sick to talk about what we call the dictatorship because we're doing so well. the economy is doing amazing. we don't have list trusts many budgets, etc. but then you get into the debate about 10 dictatorship with the growth co exist. do you need to have democracy to go alongside that? i think about the pandemic most in. and i think about china is reaction to depend on me is that where the dictatorship, the lack of transparency, the disappearances caught up with china. because of course there was a black hole in china in terms of china, censorship methods. it's draconian policies, the 0 cobit policy, the crackdown which led some people say to over a 1000000 to 1000000 desk. we still protests in buildings. people screaming was the moment with china actually collided with reality. and so the system big a concept, live long term where i beg to differ, okay. on the question of depend demik, because actually for 2 years, uh, uh, 2020,

and 2021. actually trying to do under the circumstances extremely well. and well, a for the west of the reasons for a quite complicated uh you've got to take a very different kind of system. now, one of the problems with the discussion, i think a sofa on this question is that the country, it sounds, if the country doesn't, what if you say, dictate dest spot, all these kind of, i didn't sign up, i know. but if and the, and you say you personally, but then one says there's no discussion. this is i think this is up to you on true . so what we're presenting here is no, i'm accurate. picture. we've got sort of actually just about the balance, right? yeah, i don't deny what you're saying, but your british, you would think it was a political a quick if the foreign secretary in the defense sector disappeared in the space of 6 months, no, arrested, disappear fairly. yeah. yeah. and there is something got to change going with a friend of mine as well. and i don't know what's happened to me and i think it is

on it's certainly true. i say it's re weighed that this can happen. but, but i think the thing is that we've got to try and get the young cardboard cutouts when we're talking about trying to understand how it really works. let's bring in our audience who, being waiting here in london is coming my whole. i'm going to go to the yes, the lady the on the full throw. yes. you a my question is as it just isn't from hong kong, knowing that i kind of express freely in hong kong or in the u. k with are risking other people in trouble. i also know that you just now make claims about there's free speech in china, and it's possible to criticize the chinese government just now again. can you please demonstrate that free speech and tell us what are shooting things to worst mistakes in the past 5. yes, great question. if you can demonstrate to us that is ok to criticize using being the chinese government on china or even just say she's even kind of resembles when it appeared would be good enough for me. thank you. did you want to take that

question? well, thank you. i would say a child, i need to make more prompt, take more prompt actions in dealing with the dramatic aging population in china and the dramatic demographic decline. you didn't. she didn't things to blame for, not being fast enough on agent. no, i think the whole chinese government, including the central committee state council, local government, need to take action as quickly to reverse that dramatic aging population problem. a demographic, we're not going to get to consume, i'd be, let's go back to the audience. let's go to the gentleman here in the tie. yes. yep . yep, alex, i'm sorry, alex, find some check from house. mike, my question is that. so there's been very bad rights for example, has been in then using kenya. some of that, that, that's causing the problem is to china. so the question is, how is china are going to handle the increasing pressures for debt

cancellation, lation? it's likely 17 african countries are in particular dest distress this year. thank. as i understand the chinese, that being these large scale connectivity projects is only a small portion of the overall national debt. because they own debt to the united states, to britain, to the international financing institutions, etc. the not just on that to china, but to many other countries. that's the reality. secondly, there is accusation about the test track which is completely wrong and false. because if you want to do connectivity projects, major project finance, things, you'll need to have equity as well as that. that is a inc, dispensable part of the packaging. okay, let's go back to the audience, i. so take this trend for the time and go to the back. then we'll go to that gentleman that you next of to this one. my name is ronald pricey. i would like to

ask you a question on to bit. i was born into bed before with chinese invasion of 2 bed. unfortunately, 1.2000002 bedrooms have died since and we have been made refugees. my question, these 2 bed after 74 years of chinese rule is still under locked down. no agenda and there's no individual tourist, not even tibetans are not allowed to see death penalties. what is china afraid off to keep keep to bed in such a tight control and dependency such in human existence, you know, own country. so have a sequence that you had and dynasty if not even earlier to bed has to be part of trying through different dynasties, different historical periods. i can assure you, during your lifetime, and mine,

to bet will always be part of china while he's there 1st and therefore rolling places a don't want to be ruled by trying not to bet there's been too bad, not taiwan. then i'll happy and she and jane to bet being part of china thousands depends on whether you would like to know about. it's a mega trend of time, a mega trend, or you need to accept that before you will feel free to go back to china. so you don't use it to bit you sound like a frightening. i'm not, i'm not. you said you have to accept that before you can go back, you lose from that place. you live in peace even. but that's good. he's a refuge. what if you want to go back to, to bed of knowledge to beth is part of china period. and what if he doesn't he calling about just how you kind of go back? because the child that doesn't want to see anyone advocating for the independence of to be like, oh, no way they're willing to, that's will never to why comp, china rest on its own merits. why the bullying and the threats. we're going to

break you to pieces taiwan. you can't go back until you sign this document on that template. why the in security, 2nd biggest economy in the world, major power you sounds. so in secure channel security arrests on the principle that there is only one, china and taiwan is part of china to bed as part of china. and she and young is part of china, piece of it. and even if the people that don't want to be part of it, you don't give it up. the majority of the people live happily, i've chatted. we know that you do a vote. i will go with, you know, we're going to bad. going to go with the tibetan and we're going to go home and it's about impossible. i couldn't go to the bat, but the guys from the account go to that. you sound ludicrous when you say this stuff, i'm sorry to say that is going to do it incidentally with the back. and then this gentleman here. my name's as you saw as can i, on the british or your except the right hand. and my question from many in that we will die us for we have not been allowed complex with

our families at 10 using the we were also on the season since 2017 van chinese government stopped detaining more than $2000000.00 plus were yours. and thought their hi, thank start with those costs infection camps. my question to you, sir. what's the chinese government trying to hide from us? second. okay, but why cons be? why come be most talk freely with all families. okay. is another yet another we got so many week is the same story, the same questions. i'm always very happy to see wherever i go. a wiggle puzzle, because i do can see the wiggles as my brothers and sisters on one condition. the hobby is not the real story if your actual brothers and sisters are about one on one on one conditions, all wiggles need to acknowledge that she and joan is part of china. that's a big precondition. if you do not accept the precondition to hold on,

you are not my brother also seldom. so he come, that's fine. you don't have to be brothers and sisters but kind of don't talk to his family. it depends on where your family is. there are indeed a way goals, separatists, who are wanting to promote separatism of wiggle part of the people who are not separate. yeah, disappear and seeing jump into used to mind this time, this will never happen. listen to this, call your friends, just stick to the one china policy. it just wants to talk on the phone to a family member. oh, my mother, i bought my mother. my mother. yeah. that's the one china policy. so for bridges being part of china, victor here is do you have no harm to see this amount of calls between 82 year old mother? now here's the deal. i wish your mother is here in this hall talking to you and the outcome. so then she, maybe she could bump them on one condition in china. 0 tolerance of any separate

has to be a 2 year old home and the threat to china. what is that? sorry about china? i hope she's not the separatist, but if use a separate is she will be dealt with by law. peer. it a big job before we finish. i have one question for you. we're in the okay. when conway old historic free speech society could we do a show like this, could i interview you like this, great 100 company on a panel like this in beijing and say the beijing international conventions that we do show like this audience members freely asked questions. your take questions from everyone? no one's vetted, no one's threatened. can we do this? and basically maybe if you ask me to line up all the support, you will do that really, i can assure you, i'm not sure what every audience member gets to speak freely. no one comes up with a house often with so many european countries. you do not need a visa to go to china, pick up your luggage. no, no, i have tickets. i'm not asking for an early thing because i'm not asking for it is to come, i'm saying could have chinese audience turn up and also whatever they want.

criticized cj in being criticized the government, ask you questions, talk about we goes, could you do invasion? many in china don't criticize our president. we couldn't do this all the less. you're glad you're on the positive constructive proposal to bake from the horses from the valve. don't criticize and this is not the only goal cuz it would cause the recent being purposes is a goal will be a better free speech. free speech is a goal we cherish on the show. i'm glad to of offered you a platform for speech free speech. i wish you could offer me one back big to go. thank you for your time. thank you to the audience in conway whole. and thanks to everyone at home for watching this episode of head to the of the

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