the the . ringback the political uncertainty and thailand off to the constitutional cult removes the prime minister for breaching ethical standards. a week ago, this old dominion opposition policy. how big a role does politics play in these decisions? and could they need to renew to moreland thailand? this is inside story, the hello that wrong james space. thailand's democracies entering another phase in the

past week, the constitutional code has dismissed the prime minister and ordered the dissolution of the main office in policy which one last year's election. both decisions come at a time when they economy is sluggish. a many times are frustrated by the political process. thailand's democracy has been front you all for decades with governments overthrown by the generals who remain in the wings. so what does this light is to them all mean for the country will discuss all of this with a panel of guessing just a moment. but 1st, this report for victoria gave me of funds from thailand's constitutional court ruling. prime ministers rest as habits in should be removed from office. afterwards he questioned the verdict, but promised to abide by it. cut off the accounts of inside your home. i respect the decision of the constitutional court, but i want to extend that throughout my almost one year, 10 years, prime minister, i've tried to do everything correctly. i am genuinely committed to my work which i have done with honesty and integrity on close connections to the shooting. what

family propelled, swear to into power last year after the unlimited sent it blocked election. when is the progressive move fluid party from forming the government? but on wednesday, the court ruled he had grossly violated ethical standards by appointing administer, he'd been jailed for contempt of court. the judgment comes a week after the wanted the dissolution of the move forward parties. on the big picture of costs, even though we're no longer under many times government, the question to many analysts and people in society opposing is whether we have transition from a military to a traditional coup. thailand is the 2nd largest economy in southeast asia after indonesia, economic growth is sluggish with weak exports and consumers spending a move in a 1000000 businesses unable to access loans. just look at the economy. now look at the day when to move forward party with this. so this, that was very quiet,

i think it probably takes continue like this. the economy wouldn't be able to grow the, it depends on the problem and on who they choose as the new prime minister and what the thoughts are. we are just citizens waiting for answers from above. some of the say the events of the past week show thailand is no longer a democratic country. when night people and elected by the population in no, can destroy a political party, you know, can disqualify. and a couple of men can change their copying it right. it makes the election that we had just had last year. meaningless. the governing coalition has nominated pat on tom shannon wat as the new prime minister. she's the leader of po, type, the biggest party in the government, and due to formerly to tax. and she did want the appointment of a new prime minister in a back room due has left many ties. deeply frustrated. victoria gave some b, l,

g 0. the inside story what i'll guess today have extensive experience of type politics from very different perspectives. from the bank called we joined by cas, it brought me, i served as foreign minister of thailand between 20082011. he's also a board member of the assay in parliamentary ins for human rights in london were a part of the party along a public policy adviser informed a special counsel to the deputy prime minister of thailand. and also in bangkok, soon a pass oak, a senior research or on thailand of human rights. what she specializes in political security and foreign policy analysis of thailand. thank you. all 3 of you for joining us today and important moment for your country. i know that thailand looks like you might have a new prime minister very soon, but 1st cost it, i'd like to talk about what happened to the old one if you don't mind to rulings by

the constitutional court in the space of a week sacking a prime minister, stretch all and disbanding the most popular policy, which one the election last year, but was never allowed to govern. this doesn't reflect very well on your country, does it? and that the but i think one has to go, is that go back to the constitution, which was not the democratic. it was say me a target, terry. and is that me? democratic. so the rules and regulation and so on. the set and reflect the wishes of the people to go for full democratization. so the military establishment, a role your this good, the funds that they came with the constitution that they meet, that they participate, trade democracy so that you know that in, in, in, in, in bang, cox can you give us a feeling on the streets of people shocked by these 2 constitutional court rulings

what, what, what are you picking up? wha wrote more was considering the rolling salt. i'm switching to the core. uh, some they able to do. did you cool that the rollings of the constitutional corps or through the leg? the problem is, the problem is the sacking the entire cabinet and then the election. we move forward part and we represent the or 14000000 volts act as the main office, embodying the ottoman was also removed from us because of this band it. so now the country is left without the exit. the brash as also a default position which. busy phone as essential shape and band ends in democratic role. so this is talking, this is outrage. it has a disappointing. so,

if we look at the last 2 decades in thailand, let me try and summarize it someplace. being governed in terms of who's governing it by 2 different blocks until 2006 tax and shit a lot. and adjust a 1000000000, a businessman, he was the prime minister deposed by the military in 2006. and since then, it's either in the military or military back government, or someone who is allied with mr. should've was i think, i think that's right, isn't it? we're a part of the latest of those was the prime minister stretched out who has now been sacked. what are the reasons that they gave for sacking him and do you believe they stack up? it's well, i has to, i have to echo, uh, cuz it's common that it goes back to the constitution, which i don't consider to be a proper constitution. cuz it's very tied to say, say my uh, anti democratic i think is completely anti democratic. uh,

and the way you phrase it is quite correct is either the author rights and regime or taxing or tax ends. allies is not because contacts and it's the only special person that type of vote for. but because of prior to the imagines of the new parties to move forward to future forward and now people, spotty thompson and pruitt ty potty, potty, that is the party in charge today is the main party that supposed to fight against these establishments. now the question is starting to change because once we have these new a potties emerging, which is seen to be more progressive, some it's use them up be, and time when that gets which i don't agree with. but now it, it makes it more interesting. it adds flavor to to, to the dish, isn't it? because the talk since i live potty tie potty that is is no longer the only one standing against military dictatorship. it's in no way prototype potty is now

a bit more conservative view. sorry, not the new. what we're, what uh about that, that's interesting, but just on the point, the point i made a point, i almost about the outgoing prime minister, the one that was psyched, he was actually part of those 2 blogs. he was toxins, man, why did he get sacked to the apparently he body to the rules of ethics with a display of defined behavior. does that stack up to you? the reasons for his psyche? it's, well, it certainly does. and i was just going to about to explain that because now we have 3. uh, 3 alternatives, right? we have the military status means we have a good time and we have the new kid on the block. now the way the court thinks about this is whoever is, is not going to satisfy the pleasure of it, of the establishment. in other words, your needs to comply with the so called fiscal discipline and policy of the establishment. or you not,

you must not touch on the sensitive issue or less than that just a lot. then that's a way to obtain these a populist or these people back to the body. say top, although he's not touching on the less but just a law that protects the king, she is engaging in, in a very aggressive economic policy to boost up the tie economy. and that is probably one of the reasons why he's removed. now i understand, james, the theory is being thrown around it. oh perhaps that one to re most a task. so inc pads on time. the daughter of texting can come up. i don't buy that argument, that's all. and if you want me to explore that, i'll be very pleased to ad. okay, you mentioned, let's just stay that costs it. maybe you could help us here because some of us don't know i do, but some of those don't know that french to me, which means so much in time politics. just explain what the less much of state laws

are. i think one has to start from because 6 of their parents and constitution which is stupid lay. it's that the student shouldn't have the 9 key or the very personality of the monarch is not to be by or later. and the think the 11 tool of the criminal court is somewhat the sort of us saw that in all getting the law you know, to protect, of the assigned safety of the institution of don't, will not keep. and i think the protection of the head of a stay at the present, then all a king is quite come monday in every country, but the less by just the law, the protection of the more not even thailand has a lot also i think in shortcomings and the times the boss being used for political

purposes and i think the intention of to move forward. okay. as far as i learned, used to amend it to make sure on how to enforce the law. for example, in all way, oh, you had many of the european more not keys a say this and can not bring about the case to call to a child to be at the seat. they said and of improper behavior to it's the more not well it's only the government that has to act on behalf of the norwegian king, you know, to bring that pull him at the, to the court of justice. but in thailand it has to be in practice all along that if i don't like a need tie, said this, and i can't charge him with less mat gsp. so he's got most of that, but you can't be up. i said, nope. and that is the best, the most, all the somebody likes watch. so i want to bring it in and see how this actually

how it affects people in terms of arrests, in terms of what, what the, what the government's been doing with regard to this, how many people have been charged under this? and how long are the sentences that people have received as well? james, for the training is very far a that savings runs all the different ways to move in in about 2020 you know 2020. that has to be in, over to a 100 people charged with royal and salt wage. to reiterate that while, cuz it does say regular install, it is one of the most frequent off insects in thailand carry cannot be between 3 to 15 years present to so the minimum cut out these 5 we pre yes, imprisonment amount of those to 100 people charged with roy and so that i

showed great include that many of them have been locked in jail way of doing the trial. why would you expect to be as recently died during this land, the free trial detention? i'm regardless, all currently stands by farmer prime is to save time and company and likely to be the new brands. the alarm panel should the one for both of them probably is to support the the parties again to, to respond below. but when they came to office, when say, talk to him to office, he did not they, and now it is likely that the new problem is though it's not going to do anything. it's not going to fulfill the or the electrical problem. it says about reforming the law of keeping it in line with international human rights and legal stand. they're not going to do anything which means wait by us, and we'll come to new. i'm fine on the new to be a close society aware of that will not be remains the trouble would not be

discussed that cannot be waived. sure. so should i shuttle it just to be clear to me so the so i'm absolutely clear. i am a protect citizen. i have lived that for a long time and have a british citizen. and if i was in the u. k, i could say we don't want to king anymore. we don't want to king, we went through a public and that will be cost is free speech. if i was to say that in thailand, what would happen to me as well, it is likely that someone because right and saw is for you that as crimes against to stay under the law which mean and you want to confide complaint against you and they can find any way out in the country. i mean, dr. man, no way who made the comment better? who made my last meeting of the board? make it online? they kind of do find criminal function against you and the penalty as i say, it is very hard beginning with it for years in prison and how it out when you to

tom, you may have some comment already. so if you man, pray for 5 comments about the meeting id and then they give you way in that consulting way. you kind of multiply that used kind of basic mathematics that stopping from to you, place them in by 4 by 5 tom. so now we have someone who basically pauses day joe, that may have fallen off the correct king by fall ran to be a program. she is now serving 15 years present in time. that's very sobering. what about we mentioned you mentioned earlier on that they're all now free blocks not to that. we have this new progressive block now that paul t was disbanded last week, but previously there was another policy. so that was the, the was one party and then the move put forward policy,

replaced it. now i believe is changing his name again. so it's not disappearing. what's happening to it? support the, all of a still all day still. those people still being supported by people on the streets to yes, according to news reports within just a few days of relaunching the people's party, they manage to 6 your incoming donations and membership applications. so i think the photos of future fall would move forward. and now the new party called the peoples pope potty will continue to support deposit anyway. what, what is very important in the, in, in this current situation is how dos the leadership of the new people is paula pods . the deal with the fact that they've been disbanded twice. are they going to repeat the same techniques? same uh,

same methods of communication and face anata and not the route of this band so they can make and they have to make a full, spotty for the full time. now it goes back to my earlier earlier point, james, that pro tie also face something similar before that was pure outside the current power. the current party in charge, they were disbanded, tire of tied, disbanded people's power, disbanded, and now it becomes good type. so they learn through that experience, they learned that there are some things they want to do, but they come to whether that's right or wrong, you can debate i, i'm not happy this situation either, but that's how i decided to focus on the economy and let the people grow through economic policies. now the new kid on the block, people's pilot people's potties. i think the idea is with social justice equality. we found them less, but just a lot people could be empowered. that sounds great, but whether the quotes and the establishment and what does it call, do you notice the mind autocratic constitution we allow them to achieve that target

remains a big question. okay, well i'm gonna put that question to pass it because it's not just the legs, not just stay law or is it in there? the in the, in their agenda in that the proposals that upsets people, let me give you some of the other things they wanted to put the military under civilian leadership. they want to end construction. they want to break up monopolies, they want to be centralized power. they want to institute elected governorships. they want to of a whole the education system. i'm the thing you old been referring to all the time . they want to revise the constitution. i think we have had to go back to the year 1932. that's a long way and not the absolute but not key. yeah, a lot way, but i think the issue. see what remains to this very day. namely, the stucco, i think between 3 parties. one is the military establish been

2nd is the conservative elements of to the saw, the liberal to progress, the forces you know, throughout the 1934 these and then came the challenges for coming from the company despite the of thailand and the international communism. okay. and in between, we have protests, we have constitution, no, right thing, we have core data. and then finally we did have a constitution in 90 of night, the save and that was deemed to be very democratic. pushing back to the military into their battery. then came the political abuses and corruption that and so on that led to speed protests at military intervention at least 2 times during the past, i think 1015 years and so on. and with the general elections on the 14 of may last

the the move forward part the or the future, but move it and so on and expect that lee 140 immediate votes the lot the election before they have 7000000 volts. so suddenly they got 14000000 volts, they defeated every other political party. so with that of the sort of old traditional party is the type of the democracy. some of them relates feedback, political pod people die, all of this and so on. they got to get uh, in order to defend themselves and try to defeat the move forward with savannah and then somebody succeed basically, do they basically do the, the yeah, they succeeded in that and they will succeed again, it seems with a new prime minister of the head of this, what about that new prime minister is the full,

my prime minister texans daughter. his sister, her aunt, has previously served as prime minister, yet both of those what deposed a military coups tell you, tell us what you think her sean, this is all i know. you know, you went to university with her to well, we went to the same university in the same year, although different schools i went to law as you went to political science. yes, we expect pat hometown should know what's inc. door to solve. my problem is that tax incident was to be to be uh select to to be voted in as a new p. m for thailand. now, interesting fact, james, when his what her father texting was removed and when her ons once removed the they didn't have the future for work, move forward and the new liberal new kit on the block. so the equation and the political impression looks different is eva full, but now there are varieties that will save us through the plate. so that i thing is going to be the turning point for ty,

politics. i suspect that pro tie will transportation towards what i call a more moderate centrist party, whereas the progressive party label will be for the new but a new but the new a potties. now that could perhaps be the way out for inc patch, a long time sheet. good for you. that for example, try to focus on economic policy. something to say a tile was so adamant about digital wallets. injecting catch into the economy. language projects rebuilding the whole transportation that was not just for thailand, but for the time that to be a leader in southeast asia. it pads on time and successfully carry out those economic pro investment policy. perhaps the establishment might be happy to let her carry out the role without touching on the, on the sensitive subject such as less than that just a little. but as the guy pointed out, it's a serious issue. we called to overlook the serious issues. we cons is heidi

officials under the carpet at each. okay, let me bring it left real. so let me bring some type of house in. so now you what do you think of what the international community should do about this? because some would say, oh, it's an internal matter. and actually the, the responses to the development of the constitutional cool from the, from the e. u. and the us of seem pretty muted thailand is supposed to be a candidate for the un human rights scouts. so should there be speaking out a bit stronger to? well, let's not forget this stuff last year. uh, phone lo prime. so say file. when did you in general like a suddenly i'm told a well that this is a new tyler thailand risk. take him over to grow human rights and the role of law, but it has to be an almost a g a nothing has improved in those regards at all. political repression on you to be a daily reality. and i raised continue in prison and continue. i'm the new

prime minister, i'm a compliment, i likely to follow the full sped offset that is to lead our political reform. why? pre shooting merely about economy, gro, was, there is no actually have man in the economy grow either so tight on his sub, pre 5 political freedom, one, not the advocates clear that a piece man is not working, same targeting sale, use a piece man to deal with the sub basement it fail. he is now sir. uh, probably not the new problem. so he is likely to use the same, of course, and there is no guarantee on the 5th either. and so what is left for probably about one. can you to be a close uh, the same item over that society as well, cuz they say, okay, so just so we would mention that of the economy. i'd like to touch on the economy briefly at the end. because thailand, um, you know,

back in 1990 double digit growth, many economists say thailand is not reaching its full potential cause it would you say that is in part because of the constant political upheaval of cost. i absolutely agree with you. so we need to have a new democratic constitution and we need to have political stability. and in order to have the stability, i think the play yes. must sit down at the table. one is the populace part saying good. second is the conservative for all your lives, military establishment at the progress a foss, they gotten to us to people and so on. so that should be a sort of dry combination or something like these upon them into your competition. why or the baby to a play yours come to to get to and to agreed on. so 10 basic principles about the

struct. uh, and the contents of the democratic kingdom of thailand. okay. the, let me just bring you into the and the other thing that we've discussed weird or pat, do you think it's fair? now to say thailand is a functioning democracy or, or, or no, it's briefly face. it is the same, i functioning, fragile democracy. and i totally agree with could cause it's the observation we need to come to the table and find a peaceful resolution to the long running problems. and the key is it takes time and that is something i've been telling the support as a move forward. future forward that prioritize spend to dictate learning from direct experience. they try to be a liberal at one point. now they've become a big ball conservative. why is that because of politics required, adaptive sion and whether we can we use to the conclusion that because they propose that is something that remains to be seen. thank you very,

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