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hello again. i'm james bays, efforts to, to see spot agreement and guns are all on going along with israel's killing of palestinians with more victims off the and a strike on a school. well, israel sustains it's violence with americans. support and weapons is really officials or an egypt which is hosting more towards broke it along with cattle and the us. the un security council voted for cx 5 back in june. but it's really bombardment continues the policy and dest told rises is riley cap, tips, remaining garza and the risk of a wide regional conflict remains. so what are the hopes for progress despite all this and is israel's prime minister, really interested in a deal will be analyzing the prospects with a panel of distinguished gas shortly. but 1st, this report from a coal some should weeks another day of bloodshed in garza. these where the military can at least $35.00 palestinians on monday for months now, palestinians have been pleading to the international committee an a t to do more to

get us inspire with this being new laptop and as well as the weights and as strikes, forcing already displays people to move again as many suffer hunger and to see the humanitarian situation listening. us secretary of state antony blinking is optimistic about the sci fi, do you think is, well, has accepted what he called a bridging proposal in more than 10 months of his route. as for on the strip, lincoln has made a similar number of visits to the region to try and get an agreement. this time, he says he hopes to push the deals over the finish line. the top us diplomat says he's spoken to is where the prime minister benjamin netanyahu. and it's now up to come off to agree in a very constructive meeting with prime minister in at yahoo. today he confirmed to me that his real accepts the bridging proposal that he supports it. it's now incumbent on him, us to do the same. and then the parties with the help of the,

the mediators, united states, egypt, and cutter, have to come together and complete the process of reaching clear understandings about how they implement the commitments. a how i'm austin is well, how to read and principles to implement a 3 phase framework proposed by us. preston joe biden in may. but that the collapse of to nothing yahoo is set to have made new demands unless they've hijacked him as easement on the fall, we don't need more negotiations. we need to agree on an implementation making the so when blinking says these riley's have agreed. and then the as riley's side of the, as an update to the document. that means that the american administration is giving into the, is riley prussia and not the opposite. the u. s. has now provide the details about the printing proposal and as well and how miles have deferred on some issues. these

include, as well as continuing presence in tulsa and the rights of displace palestinians to move from north to south. the latest talks come as piers pro why the reaches will it on says the us is not qualified to be immediate though that's all i'm because the us is a full slate supports and permanent ally of israel criminal regina and is repeatedly stressed. it's commitment as well. security, so father us has proven itself to be on the side of the country, those wage and was, and committing crimes rather than on the side that he's capable of cheating a ceasefire and cause a is relatable and gone. so i has more than $40000.00 palestinians since october. and the 1st case of polio in 25 years signal. so listening has crisis industry because some shootings options 0 for the inside story.

well, that's where you know, a guess to discuss all of this further in london, we have professor easy to say it is a senior fellow the malcolm h. could connie game at least center was an advisor, negotiate to on the policy and delegation to peace talks with his relative to 19 nineties in chicago act, basha, he ahmed, is a senior diplomatic correspondence health post to come with us policy on cause since the obama administration and the london daniel levy is president of the us middle east project, and a member of these, right, the delegation to peace talks with the palestine in the late 1990. so we have 2 of you who are full of mediators, indigo. c, h a is, and a journalist in chicago with that convention is taking place to give us the us electro, a dimension to all of this done. you'll let me start with you us secretary of state, and to me blinking knowing trip to the region since october. the 7th will look at all the possible details of a deal in a moment. but perhaps let's sum up how things feel up a moment. are you optimistic that that can be a deal?

it's a piece i think on this night's busy the secretary of state lincoln. he is developing a talent for mediating between the the components in caps inside use right. exist. lincoln is not quite that you still have the prime minister's office and pulse of the defense establishment frank to keep racing against each other in terms of nothing yahoos mandate not allowing a deal. similarly with the prime minister's office and the families of the hostages, they keep coming out to say nothing. yahoo is torpedoing a deal. and you know, that would be a joke. but it's not because it should be 18 to american diplomacy and their lives . because these writers being held in because of the 10s of thousands of palestinians to be killed, the hundreds of 1000 displaced saint from one not safe. so to another. and unfortunately, james, i think what we have here is a couple of things. first of all, lots in yahoo, he's now we, they some be

a place. it's a comfort zone that he knows well, that he can play alone with the americans because he has them where he wants them, which is they will play slightly off aside during also you could always blame our side. now, one could always blame how much some of those american officials like to go on to write books when they acknowledge we would be israel lawyer. and what he has done, blinked, and the american system is to take a how much waiting listen late may just say, wait a minute, then what you know thing here. are you ready say the 1st phase is the on ramp to a permanent ceasefire. these really didn't want nothing. yeah. shut that down. and they've already written the road proposal so that it can be cops. and these really proposal as so they sees more of an exercise in festival, trying to manage the avoidance of escalation in the region as the us to point bull

military to the region. it is also 10 the wrong is the strength is increased. and to pete of these thoughts because with spinning this positively. okay, and the side us what sees roll top freedom of military operation. so that's part of the game. and the same time is trying to manage the electoral political new cycle, especially during this week of the convention in chicago by the last is what's going on and the dog the people of casa, still right, very just the 3rd secretary clinton don't even put himself when he gave that press briefings to say, this is about the people in dollars went to stop it to me. he said there were today and just what it gets more complicated to more hostages or to kinda really off the whole this time. not sure any tremendously tools find us to use the all. ready secretary blanket is not is a, let me bring you in with a quote from set country blinking when he was speaking. he says,

this is decisive. probably probably the best. i may be the last opportunity to get hostages home to get a c spot to put everyone on the path to path to enjoying peace and security. do you think think this is the best deal? he says. do you think this is the last chance which he also said, although later when he gave another these conferences seem to back down on back a bit, the best friend the i find it sort of somewhat relevant to, to, to look at the detail of this word in that words, partly because we've heard this kind of talk from secretary clinton in the past, the best deal the last deal, and the last chance. it's been the last chance for the last something like 9 months now. from once the united states adopted the idea of a cease fire, a tall let's, let's recall that in the 1st month of the war, of us was adamantly opposed to any mention of the words east fire. and people who called 1st east fire were deemed to be in a surrender is um, so i,

i really don't take this kind of rhetoric seriously. i think what was more striking during the clip you showed there and your videos. secretary clinton is we will actually heard from prime is really prime minister netanyahu and explicit statement of acceptance, obviously as far proposal. well, we got from the secretary of state lincoln instead. is that and that's and yet, and for us he said as accepted. then he said supports the proposal, vague wording, which i think leaves us wondering whether or not sonya, who actually, you know, is going to come out and endorse what blinking just said i, i think we've, you know, again, this is, this is like watching a movie. you've seen many, many times before and watching it once again in the hope that somehow the ending will be different. so i think dining love a put in 30 well that the us as a big time is game where israel gets to set the conditions, change conditions,

move the goal posts, and then us comes along and claims how much for the outcome. i'm not exaggerating how much in any way for a lot of things, but on this particular point. but i really want to leave you with is the idea that this whole ceasefire process, once the idea of endorsing is he's far, was modest, forced on the binding administration after october last year, or it then sort of what denies the cease fire talks pro, process as you have to another means of deflecting diplomatic pressure on the is really government deflecting responsibility for what was going on guys, from the far right. parts of that is really government and from prime minister. nothing out themselves to becoming yes. another endless process such as the piece process was or has been for the last 25 years. we're still told even today by israeli officials that things like taking israel to the international criminal court or the and tassel court of justice. or somehow the real to piece process and

there's a significant piece process. we're now looking at another medical process, obviously as far negotiation, which i think this us administration could actually create to break through by putting real pressure on these really government. and so i'm willing to do that and therefore we have a situation where do us have ministration is basically killing time until the presidential election in november. and of course, nothing yahoo is totally consciously biting his time until that election as well. so i think there will be no ceasefire between now and then, and it will be like you to get one even after daniel, easy, the said, which i think is important, that clinton says they've got these purging proposals that i agree on. i'm nothing you all whose statement didn't say that it was, it was there was an emission he didn't say who actually signed out to these proposals, i think is what reminding all of us that way back in may when president biden came up with his original proposal,

and then israel put down new conditions that was presented to us as this isn't, is really proposal as, as i said, and i really don't. so that you, they said, i said the x rays are still logically negotiating with themselves in america, or is it searching itself into that mediation? there is another policy to this. there is no reason to believe in the back is the balance of forces would not suggest this that come off will simply accept any ease re american did that then most in a position to do that. and this is the set. one can have issues and 1001 sure. with the things that i'm most of the dumb can set, but the fact that they actually come to this week positions that will need to be real. and the, some of those positions are important. i'm legitimate, cannot be lost, and right now it's not just that clinton is misleading us. i'm not golf between

what clinton says and nothing youngest, i should tell you everything, but it's not just to seat. this is also dangerous because it feels like the american. ready res adult to be edge of a cliff where the extent of this deception and dishonesty from the americans may achieve the autistic to what they desire. because it may increase the the axis of resistance forces to get re engaged. and when you create an expectation and the expectation is dash, that is dangerous in itself. so they really are not only doing a shame to diplomacy, but i don't see how this serving the american interest. ultimately, he's like, bring, let's me bring you in the act far because you've been covering these negotiations in this diplomacy. so since october, the 7th, and every twisting to you'll now though, in chicago, also covering the democratic convention. so 1st, how big

a deal is gauze and what's going on to those people who are in chicago right now. how, how high up is, is it on the gender of, of conversation that i'm, what are your views on the electoral calculations that are going on with regard to these negotiations? thank james, i think that's a real. so that's a willingness to talk about god. so as a willingness to even talk about palestinian human rights and the protests of choice. yeah. in the housings. right. and the, the delegates from the uncommitted move in which represents hundreds of thousands of people who side well can support the democratic ticket. if we don't catch some kind of progress on the cost of. busy all of these very possibly these old have that said we're out of faith that topic. and so what are we talking about this? right, and so does that mir of a piece process is sort of a task. uh that is a,

that's a real off type chair to say godsa is rather the creates. we will try to cease high . we got a cease fire, but in terms of actual pressure of impetus, i take for a lot of see the product party officials given the rise of probably higher, it's given the sense of jubilation. the sense of being forward looking at they don't want to be talking about that as you saw present by last night. i was watching it from the convention center. see loved before has gone on too long movie . believe too many people have been lost on both sides. and that's other important message. i think that's a sufficient message for kind of the core of the democratic boss. you just to say, i put all these all sides of that set up. but i thought, you know, if you're talking to bring bringing one aspect of this because the initiative to protest and the us for the way i see it has been the students. and of course, we've had academic holidays for recent weeks and those campuses are all about to

reconvene. we're going to have universities and colleges across the us and we're going to see those protests again. all based on weight. is this not going to be worrying for the harris come pay? that's correct. you don't i that's okay. that's too long as i've so i copied to chicago who up the bang for the right sides campus. later this month, beginning of september, they want protests to be not only as because they were at a hit pro at the end of last of last i've had to get a want to be bigger. so i think that yes is a concern for the highest kind of people. there's a very deliberate effort though, right to cos protesters, whether it's students, whether it's 4 types of suppose to the lives, to see the facts for you to see that that radical say that will represent people which is not. i don't think it's an accurate representation of those little bits, but to associate as a degree of citizens them of the political funds to that is that makes it easy to

meet those great site protest as well as up to see woods press. the button would vice president highest love to have a ceasefire. love to have a degree, but absolutely it would be a diplomatic cool. they could turn around and say, look, we've brought home hostages. we've given something to the city side of the pa, the city and side, but give them the, the complications of israel pod side in the us political discourse, particularly give a look inside the body you type across has a qu, they vice president higher. so see of being see, this is officially supportive of israel. i don't see that the right now at a place to pass the israel or want take that and i, i of the side for many of us outside the us. they could say, well, the us has given the cities, tons of millions of dollars a weapons, 10 months to prosecute that more. that's a, how could they possibly a separate caught futile. they could be, see those not prove rounded us. and what i'd say if that is it's, it's such a unique political context. i think the paranoia around that the concert or out of

b. c, there's a bad thing of us. all i have at least some of this unique us all over at least is tied to a lot of actually it's hard to overstate. so right now i told you a god says cut me off at the convention, but it's coming up to a degree of b 5. but present by the scale of supporting the freebies and supporting diplomacy. that's not a real appetite to get into the details. like, why is that all the deal? yeah. you know, why are these really is sort of solely got issues like the border of conflict with egypt, that kind of compensation, especially of this boot of jubilation. sorry, the page from pratfall, the press the truck, but also perhaps the bathroom is not taught to slides. ok, usually it, i'd like to take it back to the tools. got sick, 3 blinking in the region, but he's not actually been to go see a to that is the c. i a chief bill buttons for the us and it's the same team. and this negotiation, the category, prime minister, the head of addiction intelligence, we expect the head of most sides. but of course, although it's not always been direct negotiation semester's not always been in the

room. there is one of the negotiators missing, and that's an important element. is that trying to have negotiations, isn't it that that 3 weeks ago a massive chief negotiator was assassinated? that creates a very bad faith situation to begin with. but of course it does. um, but the real custom, none the less will remain, whether him, us feels that any ceasefire proposal put on the table delivers its minimum needs or const addresses its basic concerns. and clearly the issue of having a permanent cease fire is crucial for and how may i assist you? ending is really military presence inside because the strip is also obviously very important. i'm so in a way doesn't really matter who represents who so long as it, whether it's a cut or easy addictions or anyone else what, what concrete proposals are put on the table. now again,

i'll repeat that. i think that in a way, unfortunately, this entire discussion is moved because i do not think that there's really prime minister benjamin nothing at all as the slightest intention of actually accepting any ceasefire proposal, regardless of who has put it on the table, including himself. i mean, bluntly the, the politics don't add up for mostly, for domestic political reasons. nothing. yeah. who has an interest in not reaching and to the come about 10 guys a, a so long as he is in potentially a vulnerable position at home. and could be, you know, taking the record on corruption charges, etc. okay. i guess, which is the, the, i take, i take that point. but i would like very quickly just to go through some of these new conditions that nothing yahoo is placed and whether there's any way they can be

sold up. first we go right down to the bottom of the gaza strip on the board with egypt. the philadelphia card, all that's a buffer zone. it's 14 kilometers long. daniel israel took control of that in may against the is riley, egyptian longstanding peace agreements. is there a way to sort this? do think i've heard some of the you and any you say is that the still other you border assistance mission, not just on paper, it still has a budget and it has some stuff. is that a possibility? could the policy, you'll start to run, run that buffer zone. what's your thoughts on that? as well, of course, as a way of resolving that. and in fact, the us position throughout the entire team, all the defense seats. october 7th, was that he's, well, we'd have to withdraw from dos that in that respect. well that would be a good ministration would hate to ever and wouldn't interpret knowledge it the mos

in the us position. substances really is close to a visual ways for constructive ambiguity and compromises box. and this is the crucial thing. that is, if there is a desire to get started with a finishing line, and if there was a credible immediate talk to a significant enough degree, they trusted by both parties, the us, which is pretty much into part as here. i know in any way insulting egypt to cut off to the lives of a on no equals in this, the us has proven and insisted that it cannot be trusted as a mediator. i'm just as true she, if not more so nothing yahoo has made it a bound to be clear. but it every opportunity that he's not interested you. which a deal as that for it doesn't matter. so walked the cool. i have a origin, no ideas or nothing. yeah. look at the ledger. he looks at the cost benefit

equation when it comes to continuing the whole bus, he's putting an end to the war. he sees coalition content to collapse. lots of difficulties on one side. he also sees that he's trying to resuscitate himself politically, by a searching, but he is the 20 central time leader for his route. you need more to be able to make the claim to you all the necessary more time need. so that's the sign your question. on the other side of the question, yes, we have the i, c, c, we have the i, c, j, we have the boxes, we have to quizzes. what we don't, this is a thompson with the most leverage homepage. well, be willing to deploy that, that is all busy the us, the weapons, without which he can not prosecute this for, keep flowing. america's allies already lock 6 and those who also have trade and not the relationship with the us. and he's well on, not willing to deploy those on there for each for worse than the great enough. so

not to know devices. administration was set up to give his rally unity long before october, 7th, to run call for all time. and they have done a damn good job with that and a terrible job of everything. okay, let me bring an act bar again in chicago. i bought it. you heard daniel and easy to think made the same point. the us has leverage. it's not using it. is there any difference here with the paris team and the bite and team, the vice president's national security advisor, phil gold, and he looks like the main plas on her foreign policy. do you think there is any willingness or from the harris side to be tougher on his ro the it is oh, building this based on myself as a visitation from the harris team. so don't know, you mentioned something or other advisors like a lot of golden bad cruise that would be her leads on to the american jewish committee community. there is a willingness consider stats like sanctioning even small. it's

a bunch of irritated treatments, but it says it is really common. doesn't open this to a degree that, that hasn't been just a basic reality of not having problems central by someone who is even by his story decides more pro israel than other democrats. that could be a different sort of hired foreign policy. i think that's been, that's been a desire by paid of profiles to the invoices, but also others of the box. he has, he does many democrats to see this, not just as politically complicated, but as strategic lead off beneficial to the us. right. in terms of a long term, the stabilisation of the region, in terms of affecting the us as you, as, as a mediator as an essential tear. so it gives the times the premium is eat, and at the end we're here talking about all of this diplomacy, and it's very, very grim because none of you think it's going anywhere. and of course we're not talking about the people of garza and the situation that over $40000.00 dead polio

cuz now arrived. i think a full from you at the end is eat about the people who, who are in a list. it's it's, that's the most horrifying part of all this we're talking about a terry tree that is tiny and that has basically become livable. the most recent reports talk of 42000000 tons of revel. we're talking about thousands of tons of ordinance that's been there that could, that will take years to cure for it for anything to be safe for rebuilding for farming. this is basically a territory that cannot survive any more on its own means. um and you know, i think this is actually unprecedented. we can think of many disasters around the world of failed states, whatever you want. i don't think we know of anything like this where a border is sealed off and an entire population is sealed within without the means

to live clean water farming food, nothing. the population of guys has become totally dependent on world aid. not for the next 12345 years. but i think for decades to come so long as the politics don't change the reality, that is a free open access to the rest of the world to markets, to the means of life. well, thank you very much. it was a fascinating but very grim conversation. thanks to all guess is each side about shaheed ahmed and daniel levy coverage of both of the ongoing diplomacy and the world. gaza with all team on the ground and their extensive reporting continues on that, which is 0 with i'm of this analysis to, but i'll just do it. don't com. we welcome your comments. find us at facebook dot com forward slash ha, inside story on x, on those at age and side story for me, james base, and the whole team here in dough. ha, please stay safe. i'll see you back here. very soon. bye for now. the

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