the thing is the 0 role goes behind this, which to bends bringing traditional middle eastern music to new audiences, sisters and song human and the on. i will just be around the israel bombs, the school and going us are getting more palestinians because the us just talk diplomat. anthony blinking visits. the region says talks in egypt, maybe the last chance for seeing spa and gaza. but i'm asked the cases the us and israel of delay and adding new conditions. so can that be a breakthrough? this is inside story, the hello again on james bay's efforts to want to see spar agreement and gone to on going along with israel's killing of palestinians with more victims off the and a strike on a school. well, israel sustains is violence with americans,

support and weapons is really officials or an egypt which is hosting more towards pro, could, along with capital on the us. the un security council voted for cs fall back in june, but it's really bombardment continues the policy and dest told rises is riley cap, tips, remaining garza and the risk of a wide regional conflict remains. so what are the hopes for progress despite all this and is israel's prime minister really interested in a deal? we'll be analyzing the prospect's with our panel of distinguished guest shortly. but 1st this report from a coastal surely another day of bloodshed and gaza. these really military can at least $35.00 palestinians on monday for months now, palestinians have been pleading to the international community to do more to get a ceasefire. this being know that happened as well as the weights and as strikes, forcing already displays people to move again as on the sofa hunger and to see

the humanitarian situation. listening us secretary of state anthony blinking is optimistic about the sci fi. do you think is well, has accepted what he called a bridging proposal in more than 10 months of his route as well on the strip. lincoln has made a similar number of visits to the region to try and get an agreement. this time he says he hopes to push a deals over the finish line. the top us diplomat says he's spoken to is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and it's now up to come off to agree in a very constructive meeting with prime mr. and at yahoo today he confirmed to me that his real accepts the bridging proposal that he supports it. it's now incumbent upon him, us to do the same. and then the parties with the help of the, the mediators, united states, egypt, and cutter, have to come together and complete the process of reaching clear understandings

about how they implement the commitments. a how i'm austin is well, how to read in principle to implement a 3 face frame book proposed by us preston joe biden in may. but that the collapse of to nothing yahoo is set to have made new demands unless they've hijacked him, is even on the phone. we don't need more negotiations. we need to agree on an implementation making his own. when blink can see is these riley's have agreed? and then the is riley's say that there is an update to the document. that means that the american administration is giving into the is riley prussia and not the opposite. the us has now provide the details about the printing proposal and as well and how miles have deferred on some issues. these include, as well as continuing presence in gaza and the rights of displace palestinians to move from north to south. the latest talks come as piers pro why the reaches will

it on says the us is not qualified to be immediate though. so that's all i'm because the us is a full slate supports and permanent ally of israel criminal regime and is repeatedly stressed. it's commitment as well. security. so far the us has proven itself to be on the side of the country. those waging was and committing crimes, rather than on the side that is capable of cheating a ceasefire and cause is relatable and gone. so i have more than $40000.00 palestinians since october. and the 1st case of polio in 25 years signal. it's a listening health crisis in district and some shootings entre 0 for the inside story. well that's bringing no, i guess to discuss all of this further in london, we have professor easy to say it is a senior fellow the malcolm h. could connie game at least center was an advisor and negotiate to on the policy

and delegation to peace talks with his relative to 19 nineties. in chicago act basha, he ahmed, is a senior diplomatic correspondence health post to come with us policy on cause since the obama administration and the london daniel levy is president of the us middle east project. and a member of these, right, the delegation to peace talks with the palestine in the late 1990. so we have 2 of you who are full of mediators and negotiators, and a journalist in chicago, where that convention is taking place to give us the us electro, a dimension to all of this done. you'll let me start with you us secretary of state, and to me blinking noise trip to the region since october the 7th. we'll look at all the possible details of a deal in a moment, but perhaps let's sum up how things feel at the moment. are you optimistic that that can be a deal? it they do. so i think on this night's busy the secretary of state clinton, he is developing a talent. so mediating between the,

the components in caps inside these radius lincoln is not quite that you still have the prime minister's office and pulse of the defense establishment frantic key briefing against each other in terms of nothing. yahoo has mandate not allowing me to do similarly with the prime minister's office and the families of the hostages. they keep coming out to say nothing y'all who is torpedoing a deal and you know, that would be a joke. but it's not because it should be a team to american diplomacy and their lives. like because he's right, he's being held in gauze of the 10s of thousands of palestinians to be killed. the hundreds of 1000 displaced saint from one not safe. so to another. i know fortunately, james, i think what we have here is a couple of things. first left in yahoo, he's now we, they some be a place. it's a comfort zone that he knows well, that he can play alone with the americans because he has them where he wants them, which is that they will place play when we all the sites during also you could

always blame are. now, one could always blame how much some of those american officials like to go on to write books when they acknowledge we would be israel lawyer. and what he has done blink kinda, and the american system is to take a how much waiting list in late may just say, wait a minute, then what you know. thank you. are you ready? said the 1st phases the on ramp to a permanent ceasefire. these really didn't want nothing. yeah, shut that down and they re weigh the road proposal so that it didn't be tops. and these really proposal as so they sees more of an exercise in festival, trying to manage the avoidance of escalation in the region as the us deployable military to the region. it is also 10 the wrong as the stresses increased. and to pete of these thoughts because with spinning this positively. okay,

and the side us what sees roll top freedom of military operation. so that's part of the game. and the same time is trying to manage the electoral political new cycle, especially during this week of the convention in chicago by the last is what's going on and the dog the people of casa, still right, very just the 3rd secretary clinton don't even bring himself when he gave that press briefing to say, this is about the people endorsement just opportunities. you said they were today and just want to get some more complicated to more hostages or 200 really off the whole this time. not sure any true amenity tools find us do use the all. ready i'm secretary blanket is not is a, let me bring you in with a quote from set country blinking when he was speaking. he says, this is decisive. i would probably the best i may be the last opportunity to get hostages home to get a c spot to put everyone on the path to path to enjoying peace and security. do you

think think this is the best deal? he says. do you think this is the last chance which he also said, although later when he gave another these conferences think back down on math a bit in that front d. i find it sort of somewhat relevant to, to, to look at the detail of this word in that word product because we've heard this kind of talk from century clinton in the past. the best deal, the last deal in the last chance. it's been the last chance for the last something like 9 months now. from once the united states adopted the idea of a ceasefire, a tall let's. let's recall that in the 1st month of the war, the us was adamantly opposed to any mention of the word cease fire and people who called for disease fire were deemed to be in a surrender is um, so i, i really don't take this kind of rhetoric seriously, i think what was more striking during the trip you showed there and your videos,

secretary clinton is we will actually heard from prime is really prime minister netanyahu and explicit statement of acceptance, obviously as far proposal. well, we got from the secretary of state lincoln instead. is that and that's and yeah, i'm 1st you said has accepted that he said supports the proposal. vague wording, which i think leaves us wondering whether or not sonya, who actually, you know, is going to come out and endorse what blinking just said i, i think we, you know, again, this is, this is like watching a movie you've seen many, many times before. and watching it once again in the hope that somehow the ending will be different. so i think dummy levy put in 30 well that the us as a big time is game where israel gets to set the conditions, change conditions, move the goal posts, and then us comes along and claims how much for the outcome. i'm not exaggerating how much in any way for a lot of things, but on this particular point. but i really want to leave you with is the idea that

this whole ceasefire process, once the idea of endorsing is he's far, was more or less forced on the by didn't administration after october last year or it then sort of what the noise, the cease fire talks pro, process as yet another means of deflecting diplomatic pressure on these really government deflecting responsibility for what was going on guys from the far right. parts of that is really government and from prime minister. nothing out themselves to becoming yes. another endless process such as the piece process was or has been for the last 25 years. we're still told even today by israeli officials that things like taking israel to the international criminal court or the in tassel court of justice. or somehow the real to piece process and there is a significant piece process. we're now looking at another mythical process, obviously as far negotiation, which i think this us administration could actually create

a breakthrough by putting real pressure on leaders. ready, government is all willing to do that. and therefore we have a situation where the us, it ministration is basically killing time until the presidential election in november. and of course nothing. yeah. who is totally consciously biting his time until that election as well? so i think there will be no ceasefire between now and then, and we'll be lucky to get money even after daniel. easy. the said, which i think is important, that blinking says they've got these bridging proposals that i agree on. and nothing yahoos statement didn't say that it was, it was, there was an emission, he didn't say who actually signed out to these proposals, i think is what reminding of you is that way back in may when president biden came up with his original proposal, and then israel put down new conditions that was presented to us as this isn't, is really proposal as, as i said. and i really don't feel like,

as they said, i said these rates are still logically negotiating with themselves. and america receives searching itself into that mediation. there is another policy to this. there is no reason to believe in the back is the balance of forces would not suggest this that come off will simply accept any ease re american d tap, then not in a position to do that. and this is the set, one can have issues and 1001 sure ways of things that i must have done concert. but the fact that they actually come to this week positions that will need to be real on the some of those positions are legitimate, cannot be lost. and right now, it's not just that clinton is misleading us. and that goals between what clinton says and nothing youngest, i should tell you everything, but it's not just to seat. this is also dangerous because it feels like to be

americans and he's right. he's adult to the edge of a cliff. where the extent of the section and the sort of steeper may americans may g b, also stick to what they decide because it may increase the the axis of resistance forces to get re engaged. and when you create an expectation on the expectation, these dash that is dangerous in itself. so they really are not only doing a shame to diplomacy, but i don't see how this serving the american interest. ultimately he lets me bring you in the act. but because you've been covering these negotiations in this diplomacy, so since october, the 7th, and every twisting to you will now though in chicago, also covering the democratic convention. so 1st, how big a deal is gauze and what's going on to those people who are in chicago right now. how, how high up is, is it on the gender of, of conversation that i'm,

what are your views on the electro calculations that are going on with regard to these negotiations? thanks, james. i think that's a real as a willingness to talk about that. so i have the willingness to even talk about palestinian human rights and the protests. that's what, yeah, in the houses. right. and the, the delegates from the uncommitted move in, which represents hundreds of thousands of people who side went off and supported democratic ticket. if we don't catch some kind of progress on the cost of. busy all of these really post to be a beef, all of that said where i had a place that template and so what are we talking about this? right. and so does that mere of a piece process is sort of a task. uh that is a, that's a real outside share to say godsa is rather the creates. we will try to seize high or be got a ceasefire. but in terms of the actual pressure of impetus, i take for

a lot of see the cottage party officials given the rise of probably higher. it's given the sense of tribulation, the sense of being forward looking at the don't want to be talking about that as you saw present by last night. i was watching it from the convention center say look before has gone on too long to be believed. how many people have been lost on both sides? and that's other important message. i think that's a sufficient message for kind of the core of the democratic boss. you just to say, i have all these all sides of that set up. but i told you the bringing one aspect of this because the initiative to protest and the us for the way i see it as being the students. and of course we've had academic holidays for recent weeks and those campuses are all about to reconvene. we're going to have universities and colleges across the us and we're going to see those protests again. all based on weight. is this not going to be worrying for the harris come pay to?

correct. you know what i that's okay to see both nice. i've so i copy to chicago, who up or bang for the right sides campus later this month be here. have some type of they want protests to be, not only as because they were at 80 hip pro at the end of last of last i've had to get a want to be bigger. so i think that yes is a concern for the highest kind of be. there's a very deliberate effort though, right to cos protesters, whether it's students, whether it's put types of palestinian lives, to see the facts for you to see that that radical say they will drop that people, which is not. i don't think it's an accurate representation of those little bits, but to associate as a degree of citizen of the political fund staff. that is, that makes it easy to meet those great site. protest says all of that to see woods, oppressive by would vice president highers love to have a ceasefire. love to have a degree, but absolutely, it would be a diplomatic cool. they could turn around and say, look,

we've brought home hostages, we've given something to the city side. i have the power to city inside, but give them the, the complications of israel pod side in the us political discourse, particularly give a look inside the body. you type across have a clue, day vice president higher. so see of being see this is officially supportive of israel. i don't see that the right now at a place to pass the israel or want take that and i, i of the side for many of us outside the us. they could say, well, the us has given these various tens of millions of dollars a weapons, 10 months to prosecute that more godsa. how could they possibly a sub across the field? they could be, see those law proof routed us. and what i'd say if that is it's, it's such a unique political context. i think the paranoia around that the concert or are being seen as a bad thing, a us all i, the bit lease of this unique us. all i have at least is tied to a lot of actually it's hard to oversee it. so right now i told you i,

it causes coming up at the cause that should but it's probably up to a degree of be 5, but present by this scale supporting the free to use on supporting diplomacy. that's not a real appetite to gather the details like why is that all the deal? yeah. you know, why are these really is sort of solely got issues like the border and because i would egypt that kind of conversation is specially this boot here of jubilation. sorry, the page from pratfall, the press the truck, but also perhaps the bible is not taught the slides. okay. usually you'd, i'd like to take it back to the tools. got sick, 3 blinking in the region, but he's not actually the negotiator. that is the c. i a chief bill, but as for the us and it's the same team and this negotiation, the country, prime minister, the head of addiction intelligence, we expect the head of most sides. but of course, although is not always being direct negotiations. so mass has not always been in the room. there is one of the negotiators missing, and that's an important element. is that trying to have the guy see ations isn't it that, that 3 weeks ago, a massive chief negotiator was assassinated. that creates

a very bad faith situation to begin with. but of course it does. um, but the real custom, none the less will remain. whether him, us feels that any of these 5 proposal put on the table delivers its minimum needs or can addresses its basic concerns. and clearly the issue of having a permanent ceasefire is crucial for and how may i assist you? ending is recommended to presence inside the gaza strip is also obviously very important because i'm so in a way it doesn't really matter who represents who so long as it, whether it's a couple or easy addictions or anyone else. what, what concrete proposals are put on the table now again, i'll repeat that. i think that in a way, unfortunately, this entire discussion is moved. because i do not think that there's really prime

minister benjamin, nothing at all as the slightest intention of actually accepting any ceasefire proposal, regardless of who has put it on the table. including himself. i mean, bluntly the, the politics don't add up, or for mostly, for domestic political reasons. nothing. yeah. who has an interest in not reaching and then to the come about 10 guys a uh, so long as he is in potentially a vulnerable position at home. and could be, you know, taken to court and corruption charges, etc. okay. i guess, which is, uh, i take, i take that point. but i would like very quickly just to go through some of these new conditions that nothing yahoo was placed. and whether there was any way they can be sold up. first we go right down to the bottom of the gaza strip on the board with egypt. the philadelphia card. all that's a buffer zone. it's 14 kilometers long. daniel israel took control of that in may

against the is riley, egyptian long standing peace agreements. is there a way to sort this to think i've heard some of the you and any you say is that the still other you border assistance mission? not just on paper, it still has a budget and it has some stuff. is that a possibility? could the pot a single star t run run that buffer zone? what's your thoughts on that? as well, of course, as a way of resolving that. and in fact, the us position throughout the entire team, all of event since october, the 2nd most of these row would have to withdraw from jobs in that respect. well, that would be, the ministration would hate to ever and wouldn't separate knowledge. it the how mos in the us position substances really is closer. there's a way to, for constructive ambiguity and compromise you box. and this is the crucial thing.

that is, if there was a desire to get started with the finishing line, and if there was a credible immediate, significant enough degree, me trusted by both parties, the us, which is pretty much into part as here. i'm not in any way insulting egypt to come talk to melissa bell. no, because in this the us has proven and insisted that it cannot be trusted as a mediator. i'm just as true. she, if not more so nothing yahoo has made it a bond to be clear, but it every opportunity that he's not interested you reaching a deal as that for it doesn't matter what the cool. i have a origin. no ideas or nothing. yeah. looks at the ledger, he looks at the cost benefit equation when it comes to continuing the war because he's put. ready an end to the. ready he sees coalition potential collapse,

lots of difficulties on one side. he also sees that he's trying to resuscitate himself politically, by searching, but he is the point to central time lead to for as well. you need more to be able to make the claim to you all the necessary more time need. so that's beside the question. on the other side of the question, yes, we have the i, c, c, we have the i, c, j, we have the boxes, we have to quizzes. what we don't that is the tungsten with the lowest level reach home goose. well, be willing to deploy that, that is all busy the us, the weapons without which he can don't prosecute this for keep flowing. america's allies already lock 6 and those 2 also have trade and not the relationship with the us. and these are all not willing to deploy those on there for each one of us to know right now. so not to know who devices administration was set up to give his rally unity long before october, 7th, to run out for all time. and they have done

a damn good job with that and a terrible job of everything. okay, let me bring in act bar again in chicago. all right, boss. and you heard daniel and easy to think made the same point. the us has leverage. it's not using it. is there any difference here with the paris team and the biding team, the vice president's national security advisor, phil gold, and he looks like the main plas on her foreign policy. do you think there is any willingness or from the harris side to be tougher on his ro, the 80. so bidding this based on my sources, are the administration from the harris team? so don't know, you mentioned something or other advisors like a lot of golden bad cos that would be her lease on the american jewish committee community. there is a willingness to consider steps like sanctioning even the spot rate of bundle beauty. that's treatments. but a subsidy is where the government doesn't open this to a degree, but that hasn't been just the basic reality of not having product of central by

someone who is even by historic side. that's more pro israel than other democrats. that could be a different sort of hires foreign policy. i think that's been the best that the desire by pro positive invoices, but also others of the box. he has, he does many democrats who see this not just as politically complicated, but as a strategic lead off beneficial to the us, right? the types of a long term, the stabilisation of the retail, in terms of affecting the us as you, as, as a mediator, as a decides for player. so it gives the type of the premium is eat, and at the end we're here talking about all of this diplomacy, and it's very, very grim because none of you think it's going anywhere. and of course we're not talking about the people of garza. i'm the situation that over 40000 dead polio cuz now arrived. i think a full from you at the end, easy to about the people who are, who are in a list. it's, it's,

that's the most horrifying part of all this. we're talking about a territory that is tiny and that has basically become livable. the most recent reports talk of 42000000 tons of rubble. we're talking about thousands of tons of ordinance that's been there that could, that will take years to cure for it for anything to be safe for rebuilding for farming. this is basically a territory that cannot survive any more on its own means. um and you know, i think this is actually on the president and we can think of many disasters around the world of failed states, whatever you want. i don't think we know of anything like this where a border is sealed off and an entire population is filled with and without the means to live clean water farming food, nothing. the population of guys has become totally dependent on world aid. not for the next 12345 years. but i think for decades to come so long as the politics don't

change the reality, that is a free open access to the rest of the world to markets, to the means of life. well, thank you very much. it was a fascinating but very grim conversation. thanks to all guess is each side about shaheed ahmed and daniel levy coverage of both of the ongoing diplomacy and the world. gaza with all team on the ground and their extensive reporting continues on that which is 0 with i'm of this analysis to, but i was just really don't. com. we welcome your comments. find us at facebook dot com, forward slash 8 inside story on x. i believe at age and side story for me, james base and the whole team even though ha, please stay safe. i'll see you back here. very soon. bye bye for now. the in the fall of latin america for most of my career, but no country is

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