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a junior adult to let to widespread the outrage across india, reconnecting debates of evidence against women. the 31 year old was attacked earlier this month while she was resting during a 36 hours shift in a state run hospital in westbank goal, protest cooling for justice and safety have gone on for weeks, and now political rivalry as a rule. so playing a role in the on rest, the caste is highlighting gender based bottoms punishment and women's welfare in india. so with the countries talked cooled, now involved, well, new measures and the outrage, i'm kind of underlying social issues be adequately addressed through legislation. we'll explore all these issues with, i'll guess in a moment, but 1st this report from katya lopez hold of you on these protestors want the top elected officials in india's west bengal states to step down the same amount time. the energy is mishandling a case involving the rape and murder of a female softer in the eastern city of co cod adobe. this is on demand and that's

why we came here today. if the states chief minister does not resign the culprits, if the crime will not be found or punished, the people of westbank go wouldn't be able to live in peace. the crime has led to outrage across india and it's also fueling viable reason on political parties. supporters of prime ministers and around remotest b, j. p. government have held their own protest. acute using the trina, imo congress party of mismanaging the investigation. the state chief minister disagrees and says justice will be served. 7 next, friday, september 6th, with the amount due to phase capital punishment, students will take to the streets to call for this, i would like to request my support is to stand by because the attack on august 9th has led to widespread protest with medical staff organizing strong st. calling for justice for their 31 year old colleague who was murdered in

a state one hospital. she was reportedly, it's have to well resting. after finishing a 36 hour shift at least one person has been arrested. the protesters, the more people were involved and should be charged. therefore this was the ongoing process so needed since people do not have safety anywhere. and every family includes the one of the activists say, lessons are not being learned. it's been 12 years since again, great. the young woman on a bus, a new totally sparked mass protest, the attack lead to stricter punishment rate. despite tougher laws, women continue to face high levels of central violence in india is consistently ranked among the worst places in the world to view one. i think the problem is social, i think as a, as a society with a d p, patriarchal society, we haven't got used to the fact that women working large numbers. india's highest

court has set up a task force of doctors to look into measures to improve safety at work. stressing a final report is expected in about 2 months. until then, more protests are expected. as the rape and murder of a 31 year old woman horrifies a nation, sparks, debates reaching far beyond, pull it, i can't see a little piece of the un, which is 0 for insights story. well, let's discuss this further with all pedal of guess. with joining us here today in new delhi run, john, the commodity is the direct to the center for social was such a political throw women's issues, including the book, gender, work and power relations and co contact juma. sand is an advocate in the high court that is represented supply, but as of domestic and sexual violence in bangalore. lou, i'm ready to delta is the national editor. scroll dot. oh yeah, news website. i'm

a veteran journalist if i can start at the beginning of this story and it is a here with a crime. august the 9th, the junior talk to age that he was found in the seminar whole of the teaching hospital while she was working clearly. however, if it crime a woman being murdered in that way, but the fact that it was in the hospital, but she was resting after 36 shift, i think makes it even more disturbing. if i can start with you around john a 3 week, maybe 3 weeks on protest, continue and give us an idea of the scale of the reaction to this crime. and this is one of the most struggling be been murder case, which has come and decent time has not been we haven't had been granted to as a goal for as much as they can border in the movie bus to debbie and the whole country was for us to keep them in the villages because of the best. me personally,

i my sensitive my you but i can build it for a whole nice and that been so and then of course what we do as long as you do that, then you got a lot of which is very stringent on which also increase the quantum of punishment, and then the hopi, and then of course all the 40 because we're hanged. and we was hoping that piece will become a little bit more normalized. but this has shaken us, or we want to be because the be the body of this doctor was smaller. i usually punched i live, so i've got and what the next, what board a box. so there has been be more groups. and that's how she, let's do, i was so she was in hard working space, a doctor. then she was in the conference to the hospital. after all these other simple treaties listening, i do like you say. and then this person comes in many little parsons comes in. so probably don't know, some of the intelligences investigation. think this because there wasn't

a lot of watching by the local authorities by the local police. they just started to find out, well, i clicked and what's the sentence on entry, we transferred the head of the institution and posted it and you went in the back of posting. so everybody started doubting being the b and the minute and then practice broke out all over the country. adopters protested we had the best man. uh, you know, the most groups in the united nations, everybody and also forward to take advantage of it. and they also produced it across the country. now this case is being investigated. this box walk, seen the suburban ford of ferndale. i'm going to be able to show more to uh, you know, families of this offense. and b a i a started, you'd be the somebody and they also posted government to start trip or be and so to be off intelligence report to the supreme court. so these, okay. okay, well what will quote can will come to the those stages of the investigation in

a bit. but i would like to talk about the 31 year old doctor to the woman who died a, the center of this. now, indian law says we cannot name her, but they're all the details that have emerged from her family about us. she was finalizing her wedding. she was going to specialize in respect to medicine, having witness patients gasping for breath. when she'd well joined co, but she lived with her parents, but they were really clearly very proud of her because on the cross a name plate on the door of the house, it had her name, not the as with the doctor in front of it. her father runs a tailoring business, suffering high blood pressure. we told reporters had that her last words to her mother will please make sure that takes his medicine on time. don't worry about me . i'm richard. this is someone who could have gone on to have dumped. so much good, right, of course of, and this sort of great sadness. i think everybody feels especially the women will come out on the speed. but, you know,

i'd also like to point out that this tragic guess is that is, you know, there is a tendency in there is a problem in to be at this or the outrage against we have sort of, uh, happened in this country. and uh, i would say that's also part of the problem. uh, there is no taking away from the loss of this tonight. but uh, there all remains. i mean, if he goes for into of quite stock terrible, according to the actual price here, a little bit about $86.00 cases of re per day. um. so i think, oh the, the question the also be to ask is full of, oh, who is the woman who's violation matters to indians? you know, why do we see the, you know, the systemic of a go unnoticed. i'm covered by media by um, you know,

i know expect politicians and who is it that sort of sky vote. so i clicked the questions and uh, you know, in this case um i would see one as a, just the most disturbing aspects. in this case was of the focus, you know, the lord focus of, of the injuries office what, what, why did they need? oh, really to be disappearing to the environment for us to you know, be on the streets of it's what i think it's worth adding, isn't it done? i'm or says that those details of not being officially released. they all detail right. just get the general got from from leaks juma you of the in cold kata. let me ask you about the early stages of this investigation because it seemed to go very slowly to be in with those now a suspect who is in custody. and we understand that he's a police volunteer that i think made people suspicious where you are as

a lawyer in the cold come to high court. the 2 people believed that was a deliberate cover up. do they believe the police have acted or acted in the early days and the way they should have done? but i think that's a very important question and i'm not the thought of these entire the there's this this confusion, this scott company that has the most. what comes out very strong, he is the question of institutional accountability or a lack of burial. and if you look at the investigation, the manner in which the investigation have taken place. and i need to buy the cab youtube, that i am representing one of the parties before it will be hard go down the supreme court in this matter. so i cannot be a locked into the investigation of, of the last new also because the investigation, the need to good diesel, the investigation not, not part of the public domain. what,

what is coming off is coming all to leaks in the media. but what comes out very strongly from the, from the, from the, from the media report, as well as into some of this report that does also be of the kind of that this have been taken from the court proceedings. what comes on very strongly is that there has been a complete institutional failure on to go to the boss called is the institutional failure by the, the audrey called the medical institution. it says, in the manner in which it expands to prevent and prevent a such. and such an act from taking place, and i need to add to a deposition on the 1st time that a, such a, such a gruesome activity, but also a rape and murder has happened. the, there's a long history to it. in fact, our workplace, so harassment law, which is the prediction of the, of, of the there's a prediction and very proficient also. and progressively,

the section has mentioned all of which is a 20 pumping active game in the aftermath of in bio. but it was the history of that act actually goes far back in 1992 there was uh there was like getting a gang ripped off of uh, a hold of a woman uh and share those ability woman. and this happened in the course of a low, a hard work and the workplace page to protect her and the women scripts went to the supreme court and bought what is known as the shock of guidelines. so this, this was an elaborate set of guidelines to prevent not only to the address be a read this app. so sexual how this one done i, you know, sexual harassment as a spectrum. all, all kinds of gender based have it's meant that women often face in the workplace. so we double check a guidelines scheme into effect, not just as a matter of addresses, but also to protect and prevent and prohibit from no such kind of summons from

taking place. to and showed that the woman is able to access whole book list with the kind of dignity that she deserves about my job. i'd like to ask you another question as a lawyer and co kata the case. now, the investigation has been taken over by the federal authorities, the central bureau of investigation and india supreme court is involved how one usual is that and does it give you more hope? and then uh, i think the uh, business center bureau of investigation. uh uh, it does not vary farm and boston for bureau of investigation to be handed over. uh a case. uh because the law and order is very much uh, including, which includes investigation is very much what is known as the speed subject. so the dispute will probably be the be, have more control over it. uh, it is only in certain cases in betty that exception cases that i didn't want to go

to the legal. this would only be the exception cases rec, uses the such investigations that had to go to the c, b i the central europe investigation and this is not the 1st time does this have happened and what is this going to be the last time? but what is the, as far as the question whether be should be hopeful or not? i think it's too early to say, but we are going to be hopeful that the, if this is going to be an act of detection for all of us, the runs on the, on this point. because the supreme court, as i said, is also involved. they've already set up what they call a hospital safety toss group, a national task force of doctors to make recommendations. i mean is, is that's a good measure with regard to this case before we look at the wider problem. and then uh, certainly they would, i think this is also, uh, you know, one of the shoes which are pending and find them into the law. be sure doctors have

proposed and it due to the safety of the for because we think of the doctor even though we be on the departments or, and i see you when something goes wrong with the uh, the patient is become a commonplace pain doctor, almost $75.00 plus about testing, one of the studies, not in gilbert and international said he was, uh, came out. that'd be a lot of them. are these people, some of the other kind of items. so then the doctor supposes the bill of spending in the parliament doctor submits the head committee. so the but isn't the. and since i only got to be the some of the groups they have been asking, or all the advocates for building sites to look for this bill that they should bring in. so when you, when they go to the organs investigation, i only the supreme court should have been bothered in this book. some organizations in the past 4 and have all the mostly got daily day and night. but a lot of these issues and fighting back and down. so what is happening and do just by the judiciary. what does that mean by the police?

because it takes a week more than a week to find a forced information before the police doing anyways. so i, they said this, the board, this whole task force me to come up with the more concrete measures you're your big, well come up. are some emails about any walk premises for 30 dollars, 40 dollars. they just came in the gym on the back of the institution to not provide the safety that they were supposed to provide or not provide a place at least to list. i mean this, this is this the not upcoming conference? no, i don't think it was so i didn't do these other things. they come on be that, i'm sure, but then we didn't go to the all the prices and problem that the maybe contact interviews facie, especially younger, facing young $1000000000.00 or something using the country. i think that's something that should come up and i'm sure, so people will do it to but just to go back to your question, david, about what is the whole idea? you know, uh if you look at the idea of india in terms of disabilities, besides,

you need to go ahead and you know, the baby may not be exploited to essentially what, please. i'm the with the man. this is something new to let go. a lot more cases and model this, this go ahead complain are we are that's what we heard. i'm as you watch a lot of these travelers because of the gap between b, this it is out of the action of the bombing that also shows information release in the open space. not possible what are still, what does not to be the soul. what scheme to a misinformation be big so many so the extent that they talk about a 150 them so, so you wouldn't even have a dynamic like what kind of book information was that? and then we just got the, the stories around, back in these channels. you'll start the beginning, how many men must have been there and all the lines of the she started coming up. so we move this, this, uh, this is that i think accountability has to be fixed and the state government missed the holding the thing and then not,

then we just high hold on. being more rich really are for c, b, i d. missed to get a dispute, it has not been to see us as a bureau of investigation bank and also this gave you didn't have all the speed. he said that, you know, the police is not the job and they just don't, she'll be more completely. i have asked many questions from the use of that investigation and then methodology. so i wouldn't be though somebody let me come. oh ok. you're to talking here about how we don't know many of the details. i'm ready to. if we look at the big situation across india again, i don't think we know many of the details to you doing. i mean, i don't like to make generalizations, particularly when we're dealing with a most populous country on us. but it seems sexual violence is a major problem. you look at the statistics, the latest ones. we have a 2022, please recorded study 1516 reports of right. that's about 86 rapes a day. do you think those figures are accurate or all day on on the account?

oh, from what you've heard from either bought dodge or from you know, from your inactive use of given the fact that really isn't a crime that's very difficult to report on 2 levels of human are reluctant to all forward and go to the police station because of you know, the, uh, the pressure to do the off there is also suffered stigma attached to being evicted . so i would say that those because might be an undertone of, oh and so, you know, i think that's also what's come up. i would say again that we, we tend to think of the best and emergency as a, something that happens um, you know, it's exceptional circumstances. you know, whereas if there's a more systemic board endemic p a in india and we do not respond adequately. do that, can do it when the, inspect the violence of and,

and as many feminists would have appointed to, okay, there's only us enough only, and one end of the spectrum of violence, of human face. and one of the interesting things that came out in the reporting of this case was for the man accused of who was the city for them to have with the got got the police of the well, all the complaints against him, of domestic violence. and they will be by his wife who had gone to the police twice . seeing that uh, you know, him, he had to sold the car. now, how do you know they put in our systems? do not want us to continue to silence newman to come up with complaints of domestic violence. how do you know that there is a link between that and you know, because so going to be cracking. so i think we need to see this link and not see the buzz of as an emergency that needs to be dedicated to more of the sort, the goal page it needs to stomach solutions. ok,

let me bring in on that because that was a pull in case in 2012. we already mentioned it a gang rape of a 23 year old in new delhi. then that will all sorts of tough the lows and hot show punishments. is it that the law is not being properly enforced? why or conviction? right? so low juma and then i do it there. there are multiple reasons why the adult system is not working. and i think one of the primary in the to sort of system to look is up, well, the press is a, the presence of a political to me, the system work. the system is not me. it's victor against women. and we have seen this, not this in 2012, not this is not this navea. we've been seeing the sort of number of deals for decades that we haven't had, every time there is a, you know, it's a sort of gruesome rig. you know, a case like this,

which kind of tends to shock public options. the state response to it by giving a very easy and quick fix solution and that is by bringing. so on harsher last i think we have enough floors and i think off the 2012 there was a, a, there was a white consolidated procedure that happened in the form of what is known under the leadership. a horror of retired supreme court judge just that the sort of montgomery and the board montgomery be entered into a very, very deliberate process is consulted. olsby court does it it's, it's recommended that a deposit is submitted of a big fight report and which had up top of really good recommendations. and it looked at the system ethics. the system experi are all our institutions and it's recommended of its, its recommendations that range from changing curriculum in school to changing our institutions of the judiciary off our police investigation and so on,

by training and, and so on and so forth. but okay, back to the run john, i'd like to bring it bringing run jonna. busy towards the end to look at the political dimension, because clearly horrendous, crime like this is going to become a political issue. but is this issue also being used for political ends at this point to yes, this is vivian start to make that, you know, uh now uh for me to come by. these are trying to leave each other. this is the that particular by diesel being in that state and the state and this is i would need, this is your kind of your state sleep. i mean like this is becoming a grand gulf. uh, you know, uh is that who is the part of the advantage and get mobilizing against the state. for example, in this case, managers who have been asked to resign it as much similar or wants to be, or the guy in the course to be able to be there for you. because the lead does all pretty good buddy buddy was in. now we'd have tons of different states of the, um,

the country uh where. uh. again, there was no uh, cries for design and resignation, lending and you know, i've been trying to mobilize them all. the nice doctors of course have gone back to work now. but still you can see the problems that are on the speaking guy at the time trying to break from the property, and he won't bring the bargain here in there. i think this is something very unfortunate because the women not on the one side of marketing justice, one lab coverage, the colon cases up in may. so in the, in the living justice, in some way, bringing just system and by the course. what is it not liking if i not, state is not giving you the investigation on the other side, the political clears one making of nauseous statements. he went to bed. it was a video of noxious statement, came from one of the gulf water cushions. i know they had been creating, they've got a job and there is nothing that we can, we can do in terms of stopping. there's nobody to go smoke fast or what didn't sleep and boom is dead bodies b like a diamond. yes. for

a long time. but we in short, the name i have on justice, every december 16th we organized ferguson valley. so i, i'm eligible for protesting. does she suggested that after 7 years, 3 months? so, you know, this is what it is that i did is just coming to a, the just is not the kind of a us, what does that mean? what does that mean, the system and then on the other side, you will see more and more is happening then what it is should be plenty each other, always accountable for somebody to, to bring out discussion to an end. this case seems to show the conscious conscience of india. how confident are you briefly that they could be now lost in change? i'm not really going to get into those because this is, as i said. so this is just, um i sort of a knee jerk reaction that we have every time so, or do some more, very violent re shots us and i need is being used politically. not only do you know

to sort of buffy was a spot to you, but also it's a pause of, you know, women's, you know, ideas or is it a boy's name and safety have also be manipulated by wanted to should still be have been responded by buyers from state, right, i mean it's led to a really hospitals on that that would be and we know from research that the people who are mostly sentenced to death often to be democratized sections of the country . so similarly, i mean this is this idea of protecting them is being used tools or just buying the forms lines in the country. i mean, in this, in a sub, for instance, in the middle of these products, the chief minister states. so the printer that how, you know, he was here to the product and said on the back and said that, you know, i'm very good it uh, settling scores and it comes with extra vitamins. and a few days later mine, i'm just somebody would be accused of the battery,

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