to solely dirty with palestinians in gaza. at the height of the crisis, the world food program had to pause the 2 monetary and assistance there. last december, dr. say little was some cannot wait any longer. he needs more medical tests if he is to survive something, his family simply cannot afford it. do some good food. i'll g 0. a tropical storm. yagi has moved on from the philippines. but for thousands of people whose homes were flooded or destroyed, it's going to take time to recover. one of the hardest hit cities is empty, polar were residents, fear that new rains could trigger land slides. oh sure. 0 is barnaby low, met some of them as tropical storm yagi moved away from the philippines on tuesday . floods also subsided. but for the thousands whose homes were inundated, there's no relief just yet. there. having to either clean up or start over by allow

me one on a hyphen o belongings go submerged. animal things got submerged, and the flawed, even though beds we just came back here to get some clothes. what sort of a shouldn't but, and that didn't only lose the whole. her daughter miguel a died along with 2 teenage boys with a landslide buried their house. danielle had left the bruised across the abdomen is so huge. she had previous older over her lips was swelling, so many sinks must have fallen in her. i've called too much of the page, she must have been through. in fact, so the sean says she lost 2 family members because mckayla was due to give birth. president said there's never been the last slide here says that rip rep was bill. so monday's tragedy came at the shop. you can see the rip rep is still intact, with authorities say 24 hours of continuous rain. likely losing the soil is a huge portion down to the other side of the road where there are houses. dozens of families from the lens like hid community. i know sheltering into school for fear

of another landslide, especially if they're still sporadic down course. it's happened near our house so it can also happen to us. i'm scared, especially for my small children and would state the weather. forecasters warning that yeah, you could still intensify. monsoon range, local authorities, of course, and not the area aren't taking any chances. find below l g 0 and people the city, the philippines that does it for me for now. there is more information on our website to elses 0 dot com, which covers all our top stories. at the latest right now, there is on the is really a tax on the gaza strip, and the protests against israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. intel aviv up next, the bottom line, the the

hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. is the we're on gaza and height and tension across the middle east becoming the new normal. let's get to the bottom line. the in less than a year, events that used to be seen as dangerous game changers are now seen as reading moments in the middle east. yeah, i'm and attacking israel and shutting down global shipping lanes. has blog talking about bombing the headquarters of the as really massage a 100 is really war planes bombing lebanon on the united nations, announcing that it can no longer operate in gaza. because israel has left no safe

space for its workers and threw out all of this israel's foreign gauze. it continues with daily death and destruction for the $2000000.00 plus palestinians living there with the us led talks to end that we're still stuck in 1st gear. is this the new normal america says that once the ability in the middle east and to cease fire and gaza, but neither of those things seem to be going in washington's direction. so what does this mean for us policy and diplomacy? today we're talking with daniel kurtz or professor of middle east policy studies at princeton university and former us ambassador to israel and egypt. dan, it's great to be with you today. um let me just start. we see a just ongoing turmoil and convulsions right now in around israel, in the broader middle east, the gaza crisis, now increasing tension with both iran and has the law. and i'm just wondering why you know, down the road. what does this look like? is this the new normal, the let's see,

so it's good to be with you. but this is the messages of the middle east has been in quite some time. because we have seen mores uh, between israel and several of its neighbors. we've seen internal problems in syria, olivia yemen. but here you have a combination of interest, savings, interest, state of tensions, and violence that presents a very valid title mix of just the other day. a prime minister netanyahu reportedly told a, uh, a group of hostage families that he thinks israel is facing, of war of. and i elation led by ron. that's probably a well over stated, but it can suggest you what the mindset is of israel's liter. still in the midst of a war and gaza a many more and less than on with his father. it has been going on for 10 months.

rockets fired in april for me, ron and still threatened. so it's a, it's a pretty bad situation. and your ambassador of the united states is real, you know, all of the players, the key players that are involved, both sides look as if the most extreme elements in this are the ones that are getting the fuel to create the fires that they want to have am i misreading and there are a lot of victims and innocent people caught in between? no, i think it's an accurate reading, but i would need to add to it, but there's also weak leaders. so you have an extreme government in israel led by a prime minister who's hanging on in order to avoid prosecution and accountability for what happened. on october 7th, you have an extreme leader and extreme movement that has run garza since 2007 is follow, which is an extreme is terrorist organization. and of course,

we know iraq on going back to 1979, which also wish leaders of house in the, in the 40 that now controls are supposed to control the west bank. and it has been dysfunctional and unable to govern. and so you don't have the kind of strong 0, it may be transformational leaders that are required. and that's a leading to this, a continuation of a violence and this crisis. how, how would you rank america in that, among leaders as well? because you all have to say that i haven't seen ever so such impotent effect, if you will, of deployment of us power trying to influence is real mean, maybe i'm misreading the situation, but seen open defiance of president biden by is really prime minister netanyahu. and the sort of way in which us power has traditionally work to shape environments

in the past seems not to be working in this case. maybe i'm wrong, but that's just, i just don't think we're getting the same impact for effort that we used to. well, i think it's a, it's a more mixed nuance to picture. the united states has demonstrated some great strengths, for example, in the military deployments that we've made since october 7. that have played something of a role in deterring iran from doing what he probably wanted to do deterring his fellow from doing what he wanted to do. the united states also over the past couple of years, formed some multi lateral groupings. including the in the united arab emirates and israel that uh, hold promise for the future. so there's still some strength in american diplomacy. but this war and gaza has certainly uncovered a weakness on the part of the united states and dealing with an extreme government

. and israel, as we know the time yahoo for many years has preferred a republican administration and therefore has been less willing to abide by the demands requirements of the democrats, even though president biden has basically given it's on yahoo everything he is wanted. so it's a, it's a more nuanced picture, but the one that doesn't portend well because if we can't get the diplomacy right, and we're still left only with the militarization of our activities in the region. we've seen how that has been successful in places like iraq and afghanistan, and probably proven successful here as well. you know, for years daniel, been writing that is real, needs to suspend any illusions of a greater is real, that it's going to achieve that. it has to set that aside. and i guess my one question is, has anyone listening to that, anyone, you know, i, you know, i think there's often confusion between those that are pro, is real and, and,

and not always really new, advocating for israel. the of that might in fact be the best course in most pro is really course for is really future. but i'm just wondering, as we watch now, operations and folding in the west bank harassment continuing to unfold in the west bank if anyone is listening to your proposition. well, since october 7th, the situation is only got worse. he's rarely electorate, according to the most polls has moved. right. um it already was kind of center, right. and the majority, which kept bringing the 10 year old back to government. uh, but uh, its gotten worse since october 7, a given the holistic nature of a mazda is attacking the ongoing hostage situation. so it's not a, it's not even a time now to be discussing a 2 state solution. but the arguments that i've been making since october 7th is that if we don't discuss it now, we are fated to see more october sense because of the israel's,

to the terrorism counterinsurgency operation. gaza will create a more militants, more terrorist. and unless there is a pathway to an outcome in which there can be palestinian self determination and independence say, we're really watching a situation that will recur. it's almost groundhog day in the middle east. how you get to an independent state and autonomy and you look at the reality of facts on the ground and you look at how palestinian communities had been blocked off from each other, even in the west bank. you know, i'm just sort of interested as what, what part of palestine is, is available any longer for another state or for an autonomous region. because they, it's been dissected. i mean, honestly folks look at the map, it's just, it's an incredibly convent, you know, a conflicting thing to be talking on one hand about the need for 2 state solution. but then we'll look at the realities of what has happened since these efforts that

you are very involved with to do it. i just love to get someone to answer that question. well, see, do you have to look beyond the, the math today? and this is what is possible. so 1st of all, you know the old adage when you're digging yourself into a hole, the 1st requirement is to stop digging, which means that uh, the ongoing is really activities that have created today's map have to stop. no more settlement activity, no more expansion of existing settlements, no more dislocation or dispossession of palestinians on their lands. a 2nd is to start to turn that situation around. so if you look at the, the way in which the settlements have been laid out, the bulk of the israeli solomon population is not in the middle of the west bank. it's on the edges. the court of longed what's called the green line. and in previous negotiations, palestinians and israelis have agreed that there can be swaps of lands of equal

value in equal size to accommodate settlements that are along the green line. as long as the state of palestine gets compensated with an equal amount of territory that's of equal value for the settlements that are in the middle of the west bank. there have been proposals over the years of incentivizing the non militant settlers to move back into israel. and one of their concerns right now is simply economic uh they invested in homes and in infrastructure and communities, and they're wondering will that be a 100 percent loss? so the government of israel to connect to canada up legislation that essentially says we will pay you the value of your home and so forth in order for you to move back. and that will over time reduce the settlements, the issue to a manageable proportion. at some point,

israel will have to evacuate the remaining settlements. that's going to create significant problems. this happens in 2005 when gaza was evacuated. but it's not an instrumental problem. seconds in the meantime. uh, the think tank in the exxon provence in france has done considerable work on giving palestinians much more economic independence even now. so that you can begin to divest your move the 2 economies away from each other without creating crisis. but to give palestinians and economic future that's different from today, you can't do one without the other. but, you know, it takes leadership and we go back to the previous discussion. if nobody's going to lead this effort either from the region or from the united states and allies, is simply walk into. we're in a political season right now. we have a, i just was both at the republican convention in the democratic convention. and as

you kind of look at the tenor, now of where this is as students are coming back, do you have any fear that that match is going to get list again and that the intolerance for debate and discussion is going to rise. i don't see why i actually love student protests and desire it. i think that the engagement of students in contemporary issues is a very positive thing. and if you go back to, you know, our, the use of the protests against the vietnam war, these were serious efforts to bring to the attention of the american public, concerned about what american policy was doing. se, asia, the difference today is that the too much, not all, but too much of the current protests are based on ignorance of i, i've had experience over the past 6 months. speaking of the number of universities around the country. i think the numbers about 9 or 10 now where students shouted me

down, accusing me of complicity in genocide and arguing that the problem was uh 1948 and other words, the problem was the creation of the state of israel, not the occupation of territory 1967 the this is both taken to rinse and it is a radicalization of student protests that is not going to to help change policy. i think with the, with the vice president, the counselor harris just started to say is basically that you need to whole 2 ideas in your head at one time. one is that the united states, the public congress, supports israel's right to exist and right to defend itself. but we also should support the right of college citizens for self determination and freedom. uh and if, if we can hold those 2 ideas in our heads, then we're simply going to end up at the opposite poles in this debate and we're not going to ever find any middle ground. i guess if you,

if you put yourself in palestinian jewish, particularly those in gaza, is there not a point that we just when things go calm and peaceful and they so called behave and are quiet, we think things are fine. when in fact they're not. they're bubbling beneath the surface. i just, i want to know from, you know, what insights you have about and doing that. not because i think a lot of people see an unfairness in our attentions. i agree with you that of when things are quiet, we tend to say uh, there's no need for active diplomacy. and then when things become a problematic on the ground, we say it's not the time for diplomacy. i think you're exactly right. but there are 2 different issues that we have to take a look and analyze. one is with respect to what's happening in gasser. ministration must must take a much more vocal and strong role in stopping the cartridge uh,

in promoting a ceasefire release of hostages. return to some degree of normalcy, which will involve the reconstruction of causes. and in this respect of our policy has been to one sided in providing israel with what it needs to try to debilitate how mazda is capabilities without recognizing that bad at itself is causing future problems. but there's a 2nd issue here, see which we're attempting to forget. if you go back over the years of the go, she ations. unfortunately, you saw time that again at both camp david's in 2008 when owner was negotiating with a boss in 2014, when obama put forward a fairly forward looking proposal to a boss. the palestinians walked away and didn't offer a counter proposal. in fact, in 2008, i was already at princeton. i was out of the 4th service. i met with the

a who'd all martin israel in the middle of his negotiations and said to him, you know, your offer is about 97 percent of the palestinians require a can you get to a 100 percent? and he said to me yes ton. but he has not heard any answer from the person. in other words, there was no partner. you know, we've heard that phrase the often there was no response for palestinians. and so you have 2 different things going on and you have this horrible situation in gaza in which the united states must play a much more significant role in stopping it. but you also also have a situation in the previous so called peace process and which palestinians simply didn't step up to the plate. and they were playing in the same uh arena, as israel in the united states. and so if we do get back to a piece process, we need to expect palestinians to engage. you'll see anything promising at all on the palestine side of the question of getting a group that will have legitimacy that will have the support of the people and not

immediately come on done because it's excluding certain players. i, you know, that's another rubik's cube that we don't often discuss. well, sometimes that answer doesn't require paragraphs. the answer is no. i haven't seen anything to suggest that the, uh, the end of this war at which will happen at some point is going to lead to any different uh, the ministration i know. has ideas of how to move forward both and reconstructing godsa and providing secure, being governance and so forth, while also trying to advance the prospects of peace. but those are ideas at this point, then there's no indication that others active diplomacy to prepare for that day. and these really side, there's going to be a need for, for change and permits, and the prospects of a significant enough change in these really governing coalition are pretty game

right now. given the anger ext uh, within the is really a public and of the pallets. and inside the palestinian authority is dysfunctional . it barely governs outside of its headquarters in ramallah. and so there's great talk of reform and rehabilitation, but so far, nothing on the grounds. so, you know, i hate to sound like the process of do, but we're, we're faded right now to see this recur of a 6 time. we've had 5 israel from us wars since 2007. and i don't see a pathway to avoid number 6 in less than 5 months than president by and will no longer be president. and there's going to be a new president will be either be calmly, harris or it's going to be donald trump, is the best we can deal right now. and i guess my question is, does that choice matter when it comes to this issue? do you think there will be a discernible difference between how commer harris my approach this package of

challenges versus president trump as well? it will matter significantly as trump is elected because we saw during his 4 years and office of that he walked back and under cover whatever modest progress we had achieved until then. i'm not suggesting that things were hockey dory, or were in a uh, a good place. but he basically punished palestinians by moving the embassy to jerusalem and taking jews off the table. he told palestinians they couldn't aspire to a capital in jerusalem by reversing us opposition to settlements spires supporting israel's annexation of the golan heights. a trump created tremendous damage which his former ambassador to israel characterized in the title of his book, a sledge hammer. he really set us back considerably from even the modest progress

that had been made. so uh, you know, i would argue, god forbid that we face another trumpet administration, not only on this issue, but generally on american domestic and other foreign policy issues as well. we don't know about the kind of the harris a, she's been a loyal vice president to press a button and that has created a bite and the ministrations created his own set of issues that needs to be dealt with. but her language, for example, after her meeting with the time yahoo in july. and even her acceptance speech at the convention, suggests that there's, there's some difference that we may see in her approach to early to tell. she does not have a well formed foreign policy view on most issues, including on this issue. but at least it's possible that there would be some change in a harrison's ministration. there won't be change, it'll only get worse than a trumpet. ministration is there and understanding

a deep understanding in us policy circles about what it's gonna take to try to re achieves the bill the and such in this unstable place. your understanding is one thing, but the will and the commitment to change is another. the 1st of all a sieve, we're in a period of of not just don't her fatigue, but the dollar anxiety, even before this for the european union for example was reexamining. it's a policies because they said every time they put money into infrastructure, investor, it got destroyed in the next war. and here to unless we have way out of this recurring violence. who's going to want to put money into gaza to reconstruct rehabilitate and make life livable when uh, the underlying issues really suggests that you know, things are going to get destroyed the next time around. and you also have the

situation that gaza, however horrible and terrible it is today for me. amount of cherry and standpoint is not the worst problem in the world. sudan, for example, presents for more serious issues for the humanitarian assistance community, because there is real starvation in sudan and nobody's paying attention as they normally go to 2 places outside of the hour of israel conscious. so, you know, to get donors motivated and to provide that funding that's going to be critical and to provide the kind of support for countries to come in and help provide security for being governance is gotta be extremely difficult. and that's why i keep coming back to this idea if you don't have a 2nd agenda. you know, agenda one is fixed cost and let people live. but the 2nd agenda is start working

on the underlying issue. if you don't do both of those, uh, it's going to be hard to convince how let's see makers anywhere to invest. that's just the reality. but we'll have to leave it there on that somber note professor of middle east studies at princeton university. and of course, former us ambassador to egypt and israel daniel karcher. thank you so much for joining us. my pleasure, steve. good to talk to you. so what's the bottom line? one really has to wonder what the american game plan in the middle east is. if it's just the exit, the region in the fog of conflict, blaming the contraction of american power in the world on ungrateful allies and fanatical rivals. well, that's one thing, but it's a us is actually working to maintain its power and influence to generate long term regional stability in a very complex region, which it says it wants that america is seriously failing. the killing by israel, of more than 40000 palestinians, mostly women and children who are complete innocence. in this conflict, as are most of the men will drive hate and instability for another generation. at

least, israel thinks it can make strategic choices for the us. but it's actually widening and deepening the problem. this conflict is far from over and it could really break the back of americans standing in the region. and that's the bottom line. the stories of determination and joy can tell when the cutover junior do you, do you mean collectivity? i don't think that that short documentary, by african filmmakers from monte wanda and cameron road desperate libraries, the young cyclist and happy african diary on alger 0 inequality, corruption, depression,

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