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the thing, yes, one of these governments that these says 5 digit, you say getting less of a thought provoking nonsense. but e, you made weapons being used in guns. no guns should be used in an offensive way. that's our facing realities you're running. mean, what does he bring to the table? hard from being presidential? could we go to some we cannot take the fact that he was suddenly present as not that important effective he of the story on talk to how does he era he's known as misuse. rex it's a now he's prompts is the prime minister. we shall bonnie a faces the challenge of fixing the countries who draws from us for landscape is that something he can achieve. and why is appointment causes so much controversy in front of this is inside score. the
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hello again on james bay's prompts is in political turmoil of to month. so deadlock present. emanuel macro is appointed a new prime minister, a member of the republicans. michelle bonnie is 73 years old and was the european commissions chief negotiator and talks with britain. but it's the part show from the you, but not cause appointment of a right wing politician has infuriated those on the left, sparking widespread protest. they say the left is the lines one of the most votes in the 2nd round of the snap elections in july, and along with french voters. they deserve a prime minister. who reflects that result. the country is facing pressure on several fronts as the government fails to keep within deficit limits and rich agreement on its budget. so will this latest controversy, the rail those efforts and how will macro bonnie and navigate this new political landscape? we'll explore all of this with all guess to join us in just a moment. but 1st this report from katya lucas hardy, on 2 days into the job francis new prime minister is already facing
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pushback, with 40 years in french and european politics. me, shit about me, it is a conservative who was also the european commissions top brooks it negotiator. he's now been appointed by president and we're not going to lead a new government and, and weeks of political deadlock video, see them this new chapter. they will be change and breaks from the past. there will be a need to listen and for respect respects between the governments and power and respectful old political designs. but politicians on the left are furious left when the lions lit by the new popular front one most seats in july in the 2nd round of snap elections. but president mccomb refused to a point of prime minister from its ranks, insisting a left when government would fail to form a majority with the right wing leading parliament. the loves us,
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that's betrayal. to the next, you don't get the valley. and so the election has been stolen from the french people. the message of the people has been denied. and now we're finding out about a prime minister that was named with the permission and may be on the suggestion of the fall rights and national riley. the fluoride has suggested it's willing to work with the new prime minister, but his appointment is highlighting divisions. francis, the national assembly is made up of 3 blocks, the left and hard, left centrist and popular. right. and none has the majority of mos in front of it. that's. it's a 1st step and one we've been waiting for. now we can move forward, even though it seems the situation will likely be challenging until the next presidential election. president mccomb is facing pressure on different fronts. frances, facing a worsening deficit, and the government must reach an agreement on its budget and submit it to parliament by october. first. i think what's important now is
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to gather together around one set of policies facing the turmoil. my crown is hoping to 73 year old prime minister will manage to push through decisions and avoid further crises and further political deadlock patsy a little bit. so again, alj a 0 for insights story of the well, let's bring in a puddle of guests today to discuss all of this further in some all low jack rental is senior research fellow with the global policy institute in london. rainbow, mary, professor of politics at queen mary university of london, a specialist in french politics and in paris, the female historian and political generalist, welcome to all of you and thank you for joining us on today's inside. stories of prompts has gone from the youngest prime minister,
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and it's built in history gabriella. tall who was when he was a point to the beginning of the year, was $34.00. he resigned in july, but stayed on an acad take a capacity, and now i'm more than twice his age. michel bonnie, is the new prime minister dear, can i start with you? we'll go in to look at the school detail in a moment, but you will, they're in power. so i want to get them moved in paris. how people are responding to this. we hear they're all big protest taking place. are there any people who are in seems the aspect to think this isn't? it's inspired choice. hi, thanks for having me. yes, i've just come from the protest of the president. i see a lot of people there. i mean, the overwhelming mood seems to be now anger appointments and quite a bit of confusion. i think we'll see in the next hour actually, how many people so that was produced in paris and across the country. i think some people are necessarily teased. i think, you know, the republican party getting to see one of this historic members become pm,
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even though they last have thursdays, must be quite pleased. and you know, for the sake of stability, i guess it's what my call was a need for. we after 5 weeks of uncertainty, we do have a prime minister and we can move on to the next steps. so i show you the assembly which has to budget must be somewhat pleased a rainbow when he took the job and was standing there at his 1st encounter with the press. bonnie, i said we are at a grave moment. is this the biggest test of his career? and yes, and this is a man who sufficed a number of tests. so he's not new to managing conflict in difficult situations, but he's coming into a country that is very divided. that has found it almost impossible to achieve any kind of consensus. the space with the mom as task of guessing groups who consistently have refused to work together to form enough stability to get
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government working to get a budget passed to try and see the country through until the next us of elections. and so he's, he's definitely got his work. cuts out. john, tell us a little bit more about michelle bonnie: a because he's been around we talked about the previous probably minister being the youngest, but michelle bonnie, a 1978 was at the time prompts his youngest m p a. that was at the age of 2017 mazda minded frances winter olympics. in 1992. he's been various different political jobs, including for a year. he was present, jack, she likes foreign minister, but most of his recent look has not been on the french stage. it's being on the your pin stage. i mean distinguish, couldn't career, but as he is he a household name in front? what's been the reaction to his appointment? a be kevin, how's your name? the transfer breaks it before the us when?
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no, i'm pretty sure, but you never stood out. do you mean to brandon? colorado to we know is like complete job. he's got a good carrier installed. you that little corner level or he'd be can, may have original guns that a, that's it. and be center at a bunch and he go to his job and do your gun commission as negotiate different breaks it. it shows as one thing that's appease to the board about here is the amount of consensus is quite amazing that it is 151 year old galleria is the big, many enemies of it, this, but this is bob with his virtual disability, j to trade. the consensus to negotiate user experience and during your commission and you were in europe, you have to negotiate. as we break say, they will share, i think was a british was only tough jump. so i think that improved is mentor, that think would be tough or so. so i think this is a very good choice for my call was sent to be either non attractive or situation
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always these rare, but it was a board to gather my jewelry g o, at least not to be put down. brought down on the 1st boat. i think you felt it, i think is the right man in the right place or the right time, because people, french people, they won't be me the good part of the most russian today because they were fed up with the way to deadlocked the, the decision that was in 2 months since the election adult is essential. forty's, and this man is not so big someone contrib shore, so it might be able to do the job. i please get your majority environment as uh, the budget, which is the main is main role is made image of the task. and of course there are many challenges ahead. they'll discuss those in a moment. but as i've got 3 ex books on french politics, let's just look 1st how we adults. yeah. let's take it stage by stage because i
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think it's certainly not the statement to say that the law has happened in french politics in recent months. then let's go back to june the 9th of the european elections because that's where this stage of french politics. i think stats tell us what happened and how disappointing that night was for president michael. yes, a june 9. we got the results american election and his parties done quite pearly and not only by the national rally for international sciences on very, very well. and so to the surprise of many, he calls for the solution of the national assembly, which has been done since and ninety's for other people. my age was unprecedented. um and so that sort of took everyone by surprise and other things were sort of made up in the moment the new popular funds. so the new left wing alliance was made up in a matter of days to try and send as much as majority as possible to the national assembly
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. but i think that's fine, but it took everyone by surprise is sort of seen in the results. you know, the ok, that's what i'm going to stop you there and, and let right by pick up the story. so we moved to these not parliamentary elections um 2 rounds of voting. the last one on the 7th of july. yes. and the goal of this election was to provide some clarity because i'm in the media often off of my full 3 and action. he ended up with a home parliament, one where his policy didn't have a majority. so the idea was to try and reset french politics to have some clarity about which party could come onto maturity, and the outcome was the opposite. the parliament became even more divided between 3 blocks of almost equal power. so one girl called left and heart left one in the center on one controllers primarily of the far right unknown was anywhere close to
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obtaining a majority and nothing was willing to work with any of the others in order to form some kind of coalition. and so what they found themselves in was the situation of, of deadlock and stalemate. and so, rather than forming a government, some agent the which is what normally happens after election, mac horn instead have to ask the existing government to stay on and it can take a capacity. it was, they got through the name tags and he tried to find some kind of solution to this impulse which has taken 2 months, hence, the frustration and impatience, the french vices. because the chuck is worth reminding people about the french system. it is the president who appoints the prime minister in other european countries. it's more organic. um, you know, a, a, whoever gets the most votes tries to form a coalition and then it goes to another policy until someone manages it. but that's not how it works in front. you know, i, so the, with the president oppose the prime minister,
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but is generally is we've never been institution after that. before we've seen the president of pointing of was it a position, but additions as primary. so is because this was a pretty decent, i had the majority in government, you know, to cut me to should of before which we know that she hard. and we did always just by and she and i did was clear, there was the shows, the group associate is i do my jewelry, gee, what should i can forward you to a spot? but do you start where does the patient, which was going to be different? no thought t i did clear up majority. that's what everyone. all i know. so the, the basic uh, my goal is to book just in the previous ballroom and before the latest eviction. did you know, that was sort of measuring tape, but what studies gross jury to they were about 1550 votes shots of it. and they were able to function this way, nobody understands wide, uh, not cool,
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and decided to distill all of these chemba ads. the advertised, what the national funds was riding high. the big surprise will be selection as being actually the books, the arrival of the republicans thought it looked as if the national or fault, wesley, to be a dispute, should we do have the solution that may be comfortable, but we so are we extra stronger? defensive no, no, we talked you start from just before the only be to go to point a government which is sort of both to traditional rep for be continues. so that's why you have left with people with a so finished and even in the middle, shall she build up voting for the rights we can do that if it was opposing additional already advice of us. so okay, but let me know, i'd like to be bringing this down and with some historical perspective because your journalist and historian, um, is this how the system is supposed to work because the 5th republics been in place since 1958. that's when the constitution came up. my,
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i thought the idea of the constitution was to deliberate stable, parliamentary majority is that was the idea, wasn't it to so a powerful president to, at the time was the goals it was the have a public with sound, the sort of the goals, the image of the strong presidents supported by a strong majority and ever since the sixty's there's always been a key and majority of the functions of the 25022 was the very 1st time there wasn't a camp already and it became worse last july. and so this is very much unprecedented, so that's why as opposed to other european countries already know what to do, because usually, even though it's not in the constitution, the president must cohabitate with whoever has the majority. it's sort of how it's done. there's no really rule or habit for when you have no uh right majority it's so why do you think rainbow was off?
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so lots of names being floated addiction to the merry go round of senior political figures for a very long time. why was bonnie a settled on by macro and the how much is the, is the national riley policy important in this? the fact that they perhaps didn't veto him behind the scenes a maximum. how decisive criteria that he wanted to fulfill. he needed someone who could reach out and achieve some kind of consensus or very nice, some kind of compromise between different policies. so someone who was in to pauses on too entrenched in a single view points. you also need to someone who wasn't going to get or the friend immediately there was no point pointing a new prime minister who would immediately face a no confidence fiber to send everybody back to square one and come back from his came to protect his own legacy. and in particular, the pension or form that was possibly great control to see it earlier this year. i know which mac who lost most of his political capital. so he rejected candidates
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whose goal was to of the tongue policy. and fulfilling those criteria proved to be almost impossible. every time a new name was mentioned, they would pull down on at least one of the 3 criteria and vanya, it was the 1st name that came up, who didn't fail on the 3 criteria. he's reading this. if you can possibly, with smartphones views on pension or full, he has a track record of reaching out to across different policies who caught work together and especially in his is wrote into your opinion. and he was not immediately rejected by a majority of people in parliament. and that's why the far right come in. because a lot of the left wing candidates were rejected by the center. and the rights and motive candidates from the central in the right were rejected by too many on the left. but this is one where the far i so willing for now to give him a try and that for now, question is an important one that i think will need to be time see later in the
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discussion. but for now, he is not being rejected by majority of parliament. and so he has an opportunity to golf in for at least some period of time. but jack mack crawls always said his role in politics is to keep the fall right out of any control. and now it seems he's ended up with a situation where they potentially have a b. tell him the government going forward. yes indeed. yeah. does the arrow ne, off of my call, we'd love to be just talking about this situation. imagine the situation. $11000000.00 people voted for the national prompt in the 1st round of the, about a bunch of addition to some percent of the jury. so it's a, it's a patio or the spot at the but at the same time defense as a said rejected edition or they don't want to see them. and but at the segment that we infuse, did you beat the ideas of the initial or from uh, running around the 5 sure fences i t i, she got to be strong. and we see that the,
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the polity about me comes from is very close to now some farther, and some views about the migration and the new way to all the uh that's uh, that's quite clear the ones with like these that's why the short from a fact accepted by the about the comes to read because of a pretty close. we bought a 2 bedroom government, provided that stick to the edge and off the off the edge and the on the she'll give me a question and we saw that we know that about yet in the previous campaign, when he was to meet the presidential candidate for the river because they're really just a defense you should towards, you mean ration. so yes it's, i wrote that in the section that the french rejected. so the sort of fraud was the hotel just got out of the door and is coming back to the window. is that his
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ideas with different energy in france, the body sees that somebody shoes a body shop that's probably even do about the essays, the that the e we and try do a peter. so yeah, i like to defend the view of the issue of made the boat forward, but the sharp on was issue purchasing by add the show insurance, grateful. and, you know, one of the things that by coal wanted, what the point you to prime is step was something who is a, is it could, it makes it a guess? you won't have to go against the reforms, especially dimensions. reform does cause. let me just bring in the now let me bring in the on, um, so we will have a new parliament assembly and us, you know, a meeting. it seems that the left his policies are still going to push a vote of no confidence. does that have no chance at this stage? all things still a little bit unclear is looking unlikely,
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but you know, there's been a lot of surprises in what past few months. but yes, i think relaxed and having a hard time accepting this term good at and not only because they got the most, you know, states and member ending up with attended as problems. i probably couldn't party's morning, not 39, but also because they're very quite critical of them use past as a full edition the on the side that the man voted against. didn't get penalizing homosexuality in the eighty's voted against gay civil unions. but he bought it against state funded abortions. all of these, you know, past votes of has, are, you know, very against what a lot of people the bar last july. they're very, i don't that the opposite of the image of friends very recent. the project said to the world of the olympics of a very, you know, come by says clear opening ceremony. this is, comes a bit of
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a surprise. so i think there's definitely going to be a lot of the protested right? probably a, i mentioned a notion of no confidence of you something well talk about of a motion of no confidence, right. but also some suggestions that may be of the problem might try to impeach my call. even if that doesn't succeed. what is the damage to mat crawl from all of this unmet crumbs negha sleep because he looks very weak, doesn't t? i mean, you know, one hand, he was very impulsive cooling a snap election on the other hand, terribly and decisive did the ring of the leg over prime minister and who to a point as a prime minister this comp be good for the background. can it obviously he's been weak for the entirety of the 2nd time. at the moment he lost the parliamentary election immediately following his re election. and he's been in a week position and even his re election was secured largely on the basis that he
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was running against the far right candidates. so people were rejecting the alternative rather than giving a positive endorsement to maxwell. so his popularity has been low for some time. his status has been diminished. you could argue that he's been did or, and you could also argue that he has been faced with a very difficult decision alone, that he has taken his time to implement. well, if he had chosen someone in haste and that person had been immediately rejected by parliament, that would have created a different kind of crisis. so his go now is to try and get a government that will achieve at least some degree of stability. the key question is, how much ground does he have to concede to the far right in order to retain the sort of a passive toner. and so if you will of this government, that willingness not to suppose the motion of censure that we drive through the government. okay, and let's, let's talk about, let's talk about take volume closing calls because all right, tasking,
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chuck. now let's talk about bonnie is 1st tasks he's got to a point the ministers he works with with micro map, if the president to technically appoints them. but then the budget. now this is a real problem, isn't it? by the 1st of october because prompts has a massive desk deficit with some say well the, the, the outgoing finance minister says could reach 5.6 percent of g d p this year. and there's an e, you limit of 3 percent of the use already taking disciplinary proceedings against prompts. it's a headache on day one. yes, that's why you have pointed us as a dog you add not a someone from the left. if you do is someone we're going to want you to raise taxes at the increase, but be spending. would that be that same up to euro and to the market? so as these values appointment would come down to about this and we'd call, i'm doing it would be installed, but that we'd like to make a purchase. so which is outside of besides,
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a budget is effect. the arrow need is the i, the president of the falls, well as inability, every action is leading to the reading of the constitution, which makes it won't bottom winter when you started because each other really draws your question. so this is a fit for public, a presidential regime. oh, the bottom of the river is, you know, with the situation where joe, i've told the folks to protect your battles, means that your boss is environment. and my quote know is not on good. that i the president, and we see all these sort ation ship. it doesn't go very much and fox is the prime minister. it's very staging in the constitution as the president is meant to be both the apologies at preserving disturbing each of these situations. ok, maybe the taking care of the bringing the on, on not pointing, but at the end of our discussion. do you then for cdn tensions between bonnie, a,
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a mac chrome going forward, even though vanya has been chosen by macro. when bonnie i was running to these policies candidate and the last presidential election, he said macro had read from send an arrow good amount of that needs to be changed. is it going to be across between these 2 in the coming and coming months? and she was very much critical of my call when she was running for president self. he has to be, um, i think that's hard to say. now people have to wait and see who he nominates in these cabinets because my cost a lot of things. in the past few weeks, he said that he wanted to a point, you know, the army and the interior of ministers in south the questionnaire level down the road to long with. then the question is whether done you will find him on that. my quote also said that he wants us to be a collaboration more than a cohabitation, which seems to indicate that he wants them to work, you know, intend them. so i've been trying to hold on my whole side, but it'll be about 2 tenths. think it sort of depends on how much time he wants to
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weigh in with his own choices. because, i mean, it seems from what we've learned today that some ministers want to stay like domino who's the interior minister. that he wants to say. actually the g at the culture wants to stay and so it depends on whether or not you had other ideas or not. and that'll be in the coming days and weeks. well, thank you very much. all 3 of you for joining us on today's inside story. all guess what struck rental brain by maria and beyond the bmo. if you'd like to watch this or any of our other programs, you can always find them on dom all now to 0 adult calm. your contributions, comments. i mean even criticism a welcome to on our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story, or you can use x for many. twitter or a handle is at a inside story. i'll be back here very soon. but until then for me, james base and all the team, his stay safe and well, bye bye. for now the,
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