comes up and one down there was never going to be letting them know. so can we just stand in front of you, you purchased what made the intimate connection between myself and join the diggers and mexicans and said to me, africa, direct on how to 0. so then says no to the deployment of, i mean partial force in the country, united bases, experts say serious human rights violations have been committed by both sides in the own. going more so who will protect the millions of civilians trust in the conflict. this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program on how sion a bottle. so that is facing one of the well as well as humanitarian crises, biting between the ami and it's 5 of the rapids support full. so it's about

a minute to a good house, killed tens of thousands of people and forced millions from that homes across most of the country, reports of torture and rape, have so during the last 17 months, leaving many people feeling desperate and help us the united nations ones to deploy peacekeeping troops, but the government says they are not welcome. the announcement follows that investigation investigates. both sides have committed abuses that may amount to will crimes. so who would hold them accountable? and what does this rejection of intervention from outside of so then mean for those people with small these issues with all gas in a moment. first, this report by got you all up is how do you on for nearly a year and a half of fighting and sudan has killed more than 20000 people in force, millions from their homes. the united nations wants to deploy peacekeeping troops to protect civilians from the conflict between the army and the tribal for rapids

support forces or are assess. but the sudanese government says you want troops are not welcome to the foreign ministry as loyal to the army led by general after the fight. the con assessor rejects the recommendations of the un mission, including an extension of an arms embargo, after interviewing more than a $180.00 survivors than witnesses. you an investigator say they found harrowing violations and abuses from both sides that may amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity. in particular, rates gone great by both parties to the conflict. members of the other stuff, in particular, have perpetrated search of violence on a lot of skills into constructs, or fact talks on c t's and dot for redone on the grid to talk to him

area. recent talks led by the us in geneva to stop the fighting were inconclusive. b r, a sub led by mohammed hom, done talk a little sent a delegation that students military does not. the un warns the situation is dire. the gravity of our findings and failure of the wedding parties to protect civilians underscores the need for urgent and immediate intervention. sudan has suffered one of the world, the worst humanitarian crises since fighting, broke out on april 2023. the unrest is also fueling a cholera outbreak in areas containing some of the most affordable people and violence against civilians is fueling desperation. to have your own body done recently that was still selling to the people, the skid and fit for the lives of the old by the so you won't gather in one place with phases of getting here. having the conflict has devastated much of the country

. now many people in sudan and elsewhere are concerned. no one will be held accountable. katia a little bit, so the young elder 0 for inside story the . let's bring it august in the sub i just thought i'd that a didn't to good who is a so that is active as a was himself detained and tortured of his thoughts of the conflict. a man on the high look shy. it is it so that he's international attorney who has advised international organizations on sit as constitution and politics and, and title natalie? i've been one, i'm is a. so then he's political commentator and journalist. welcome to the program. and i did one of the key recommendations of the fact finding mission is the need to put together a peacekeeping forces been so that the governments, he's saying, why do i think the government rejects this recommendation in particular?

the thank you, the shuffle, tired of me in the show and, and thanks for all the us manual. yeah. and, and hosting. yes, i think the additional, the default development or uh, i need this out for the savannah associates for the. busy commendation i think i'm good you know, the fact finding mission. busy busy they for one expected because from the beginning and the establishing of the function under the resolution of the father, my condition uh, come on, i thought it was uh with come by. yeah. sort of by the defective government and disease, both prediction both uh even the law do you need the financial statements? and then uh, the confirmation that this is the most a statement. i know that in addition both uh of the 8011 to my

d. uh, doing that, do you need to meet the uh, with the dispatcher, now what hold on. uh, what day is it on the app and decided to get any commitment with the dc. oh. busy the saw at these by a 122 movements and this was the z, b, a g is willing to install these buyers. and it's, oh yes, to be here for that. you kind of to go on board as we sold them. we don't want to have the got there we go about getting the fly in and even the we were you coming all the sky, you know, i see and for meeting why the saw, you want to do the addition war and for the protection or see because even the

surface to me the, the, the cdn collision that i am in the water and the port of the c medias also has a statement by the menissi all forward enough as describes the human rights council . quote, political and illegal buddy. and the panels. recommendations were basically a flagrant violation of the mandate. how do you see that position by the government? and i think it said so i can understand the position from the, from the, from the government to sit down. and, you know, i figured i'd gotten back to you cannot say that you didn't never stay international forms of platform stuff. you have to do with internationally when it comes to issues relating to the fact finding mission and other other um i would say i'm assuming system us by the, by the, by with the name as council on the security council. but the test to just look at the monday adults, the fact finding mission itself. i think the fact finding mission has

a specific monday time docs mandate um, as of investigative nature, rather than just investigating about truck finding feature. right. and then just going into the policy making recommendations, i would look into the comments that has been made by the, by the fact finding mission to, into us and making recommendations. i think the issue that we need to look at is that whether you know the conditions to deploy independent forces also within the fax on english. and i don't think it folded in the funding ship as established by the human rights council. but again, the, the, the, that kind of stuff in addition to this, all felt address. how cool and when i'm also at least accessed to it or it's easier for you to deploy find forces regardless of far the position taken by the government of sudan. we've seen you and have it in the past. you need, do you need to get them into the online that's going just the international community. you need, you know, complex negotiations with the government for you to have such a,

such us under such m u n d. so forces and unit big was part talking to your technician of african african mission. in my opinion, i can get it exceeded your mind that assaulted in their mind. that although there was a nation, so that established a right. so the humorous council, the solution that established the fact finding mission talk generally with the protection of civilians, emulation to the year, to the commitments that been made by both parties and the i'm due to dig origins, commitment again, it's something in the on monday i think it's up on some additional, right. and then something that follows maybe a reminder. okay. dario is respective of whether this was within the mandate of the fact finding mission. could it be that the house, the russian, not of the united nations, a team of experts, that if you how, if you want to stop the insanity in so that the mass killing of civilians and prevent funding for further expanding, you need to stop the war to stop the war, you do not, you cannot boot trust between the 2. a positive that for the only practical way for

a to be flown into the country is to have a mechanism. and this explains why the want to see peacekeeping forces deployed into so done. first of all, i think the protection of civilians as a nation has never been possible, has never been brought to the table until not recently taken precedence if saw the start, the projects of civilities was a priority. then maybe there was a few more steps taken more, you know, effective steps and the impact told steps taken from the fact finding mission. first of all, i think it was, it was only for a certain area. they need to expand their mandate to cover the whole of sit down because of violations aren't just taking in one parts of the country. they're taking part in the whole country and they're being violated by both sides to the war of our assess and so have violated civically into. right. so they do, and it's, i think it's

a carl because i don't think either side would agree to a 5 to a peacekeeping mission because there is no peace to keep. and there is no peace, peace to be phone. all the talks have failed. there's never been a proper push to bring an end to this war to or to even talk about the civilian protection. and it's been kind of basically taken and half heartedly taken by the to not to community. and this is something a we in the civil society of so that so the least civil society have been talking about and have been pushing for since day one of the war. and it's, it's basically started to be taken to take to top, taking precedence. and as it is up to little to date, not what do you mean because like you said, we can, they can hold the further expansion a little, simon. they can, they can play a part in dealing with the health issues, the color of that spread thing in the country. you know, those sexual violations are, that'd be perpetrated mainly by the r a stuff. you know, there's so many, finally,

it has not been taking place is done and they need to be addressed. and i think that needs to be more efficient. we have to address these issues a lot dean, we're talking about self because the largest country where the was of perhaps could be the most destructive. now in the world, more than 20000 people killed one 5th of the population, forced out of the placed that basis. why is so done not getting enough attention? i think i think the, the going just as of many other crisis in the world. and he's like, it gives advice for the so that could be a such an many people like the same time, even auditors in the, in their history. but i, the media and i just didn't want you a lot. and the price is,

uh, i think maybe just because of this, the price is that stuff in, in the old adage and, and you gave him involved in the year. uh, let's say you bought a job then all the ways we do. but i don't know, don't get in trouble. and i know these are you guys alone, but somebody just to say the comments and you're getting a little different. finally, you should issue that there's nothing you will be the part that was kind of concerning that for me. i've been just uh, shipping the photo to guy, not at that time. uh so in any condition and it wants to do it on the nation. uh, as you go to the doctor and they do, you know me uh for this can to that floor and then it was 50 to the i see i have called the sheet out the same honda saying, i know we want to find it. i can see, uh, so i'm on the same people like i'm trying to get you over to the heading of the jefferson,

all different pharmacies, the new person to so that he was involved in this, that sort of issue before the most important things into the portal. that i'm sure the big difference of the dealing of the timing was when the week on the guys partnership going back to the building. so that why and saw responded immediately the 2nd day after pointing well, how much can be. b again, that phone and they say, and the other thing is does it also have some missing mrs data? and the goal is you mentioned that the bessie b i the 8 over to her. oh, that before i've been given us in the media and all that of us, when there is a question for me that be good to all of the initial visual on

the previous, the jimmy, a sep and the did with many of the editors, especially they might get cool, i know one of the ocean with one big change that this would as well. so this war is not just a model for the power. most people say ok, it's or use it kind of gives the change by them to by the s b u of the hollow. the team of experts found evidence the suggest the both sides committed crimes that could amount to crimes against will crimes and crimes against humanity that there's been widespread pitch, i guess the ethnic groups, particularly the non up communities in the 4 strings of sexual gender based fighters the souls beep gung right?

how when details about atrocities committed across the country? do we have a mechanism where we can say, if both ought to be held accountable, that for of the fact that how to go ahead and have done that got to have to go to jail either face trial or the ice se. so i think it's the but the need to just to, to, to differentiate between the physical address, the mindset of the international court, when it's kind of success, which is on the amount that i'm going to measure to my corporate is, comes to the dentist. i have limited to the situation and dental, and this is why one of the recommendations could forward by the funds finding mission is to either expand the, the demand that i see to include the task that i'm going to stablish um, so to speak of the g shep or do the show system that deals with the width would have been committed as part of the, of the complex i'm, i don't see that, you know,

an investigative investigation thus far. i'm involved the, the, the, the 2nd commander of the engineering, i saw the isaacson's investigation isn't limited to the, to the, to that far. but let me tell you, i a, i stood. i'm on the back. i mean, if you look at the, if you look at the investigations themselves, you cannot just wait in between the hours if i'm on the side of the societal. and this is what i can use as a spectrum, beginning from the computer to solve the cast to paragraph. at the very end of dealing with the commendations. paragraph, 11011112. and if you read $100.00 control, the deals with the result will grounds to believe that single sab and allied forces have committed the crimes. and then you can print without a print class. i'm embarrassed as it is, maybe just an extensive background from our station that it use language that intentionally don't give a tax, abusive population intentionally. there could be a toxic, this person's objects involved to control systems. and then you know, all doing this placement, intentional displacement and office thinking of

a collection for we just want to to the conflict. you know, i think of this of the word intention as mentioned so many times we deal with our stuff. so there's no way to weigh in between the, between the 2. okay, and for analytical, i see, i would say i'm, i'm, i'm not objective. this again takes me to the, to the, to the, to the fact you're investigating or the, the fact finding mission, although i'm to talk, does it, ah, so the quest of 2 visits are done unto the fact and give them to the contest it down to just a, a, they are request, you cannot say that the corporation by the, by the, by the, are just that the, i'm all committing atrocities because this one getting done, they've done with the, with the disagree with an expert on who might take some done with it that was on fire alarm, but i think done it with the, with the fact finding mission but on the ground. when you look at the country and see people being assuming a barrier is controlled by the arts after it is controlled by the by the 2nd. this is the irony, as soon as do you have to go through the displacement in the beginning when it,

when it came from cartoons to the, to, to just think of the dentist and not i'm down to the bottom. it's because the r f r . i'm committed to the source that this will be, this is the side of course, binding to an actual payment the on the i'm just international angle, right. fortunately, no one else need the extra 20 deal trip with, with that situation which the fact finding mission metrics and the documented that to the airport. they've said the same thing. so i think it's a bit debit. uh, you know, i'm misleading to suggest that you know, the degree to me or the, or the can be equated and the amount of concept isn't committed. and definitely those comes committed by buying by so far. so. but then if you put them in a scale, you would, you would reach um, uh, being a definitive conclusions as to the amount and the magnitude intoxicated by the artist. is that yeah, there is a sense of urgency here because the report blames both sponsors for blocking access to a mind to tell you 8 many experts,

a warning that 2000000 people will die by the end of this year. and that the 520276 1000000 so that is, will die of famine. how to see so that is moving forward with a guest. the backdrop of all these challenges and problems happening on a daily basis with the west pattern to disengage for the time being. i mean, suzanne has always a, the notion of left field, which is social, social unit to social mobilization has always been present in savannah because it's of these state has never supported this of the, the civilian. so we've always stepped in as to the needs you know, to help each other. this is what's happening right now. but there are great coupons because funds are running low. they're be, you know, targeted by most to our assessment, staff development to use and those on the ground floor working to, you know,

make sure the community kitchens are ours, are able to provide, you know, essential, just basic food for those in the besieged areas. are those who don't have access to food and to health resources and so on. so it goes into some of these people who stepped up and stepped in when needed. but there needs to be more help towards them . they need to be acknowledged as a major source of aids for the people that they may not be in to national agencies, but they are working on the ground. so they need to be as long as they need to be recognized. that needs to be felt aged. at the same time, i think it needs to be more penalties or penalize ation. if the safe car doors are not kept are not maintained or not sustained by either side. and we, we know that both sides have no new to a convoy, easy, know, reset the, uh, i think the wsp warehouse is where there was a report that there are a steps need to medicine or medicinal supplies of the value of 500000000 dollars as

a part of the state of talk to me, i know, and it's something that hasn't been address, needs to be addressed. and i think the stakeholders who can have an influence on both sides shouldn't be a little early to put to, to, into, to, you know, to persuade their, you know, the both the stuff and stuff to allow for humanitarian a to, to get through it. so it's like he said, it's a tricky point to that and it's a breaking point if it hasn't already been broken and it's only going to get worse . okay, so there's no, like at the end of the tunnel. unfortunately, let's explore different aspects of the other fact finding mission and i didn't the report has been documenting, watched for the rest of the tension conducted by both the stuff and i. so if you will just find yourself in the past, give us a sense of how, how the experience was briefly if you don't mind. yeah, it's actually, it is, it's

a very it not the videos. and they will also one deficiency in detailing this uh, this issue i like, i didn't find that many 3 instead of just on the south from my house, just because i'm according to the water and but in the store and explore the very end of the war. never it is that was there to data the data and the reason before the war and get up to them in. but some of them seemed rather old. and c, b, we're going in the style and saying that we are going to change even buying the laws for the payment to go to the bins and the voltage in the regions. and i said in depth of see the city and the i want the just i'm there i'm so i'm here i was just. ready talking to my dad was the brother, a people band members in

a meeting to do a job for about 415 days i saw on that issue of discrimination. 6 or 7 of the 4 out of the private people were taking just a hood. mcgee is 2 of them. they were on the board and half the route 3 or 4 of them went to the mission of the prism. i deal with the current emission and every the. ringback for me, i thought sure, and i didn't addition to general rebecca 2nd, but mind to bring this out. i mean, do you send it back to our part of the c n o. important to say that or even right now is this james, you know, that was issued by the government and the side of the data. that's called this change, but it is new. and i, i told you, i didn't do that is no, does. what do you use to begin to sure. many of the people that sort of the same as

the final or did you or i don't know any the state. okay. or the dealer of the i'm to say that are right. no. the defenders of the 50. 0, cbs exceed 20 gigs, and this is the missing one by the government in order to take that wherever the war is a sort of independence of the that's the most expensive. further, there's a debate. you have a country which has both as with 7 project states, shop age. if you, if you leave your house to the central african republic and about 2 year old, combined with 218000000 people, the potential for the country to further impose when have catastrophic impact on the entire region. still,

this does not seem to be topping the agenda of the international community. is it because sense of apache over the problems of sedan or a prevailing sentiment that there's absolutely no way to day tomorrow in 20 years, from now to be able to solve the problems of sedan i think as a criminal to the left of the practice of the international community and the, the i, the, i'm going to be looking at their courtney and where are you to do, you know, the, the, the, is working in the baseline of lesson and conflict. we are not on the top of the single. so, you know, the international community that's on the gun show what it would call it, depending on for to your compassion technique. i think dealing with, with the situation and, and then of course the challenges are an honest effect and the, on the traffic are you, you're dealing with the situation of media. we're dealing with restriction. and i'm, you jump to a meeting with a guy, but you know, difficult scenarios in the and try that number 3 out. and if you get some sort tickets, or if you don't look at this very seriously with the spend all her to the,

to the region will be contest to the deterministic isn't because historic. and there was, there was a need, i mean, due to the continuation of fall off on the crisis. slow mean that, you know, this is easy for the little stuff. okay. um uh more would it be displaced and uh there has to be some sort of estimation but you could, you know, enforcing and push it for for, for the process to. i mean fortunately would have to leave it. uh generally ive been one of those products. i and i do it, i really appreciate your time and instead of looking forward to having the same conversation with you in the near future, thank you and thank you to hold watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just see the going for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside slot. or you can also try the conversation on x. all a 100 is at a j inside slowly from the house you're talking about on the entire team. here in doha bye for now, the

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