the politics and her concern for egypt, pores, people fighting, even while behind bars. she didn't care when she was jailed for 4 years. in a tomb painter protest, her prisoner noticed 0 the frequent classes in a fiery us presidential election debates between coming to harris and donald trump . both guns say the one up to 90 minutes of saw exchanges. so what impact would it's have on undecided voters? and for november's election, this is inside story, the hello welcome to the program, i am. how should i have a bottle to advise debates? have valley been so important in us presidential election is now the last had to

had ended joe, by this campaign, after this big tack and the implosion against donald trump in june before shaking hands on the stooges stage, on tuesday, trump and coming to harris had never met before, judging from the tone of the debates that followed, it's unlikely the that would be rushing to meet each other again if it was on for the amounts of who should be you as president for vice president? how is it was her 1st presidential debate on life? trump was biting his the campaign, no catastrophic collapse for the democrats. this time her team says she won just the us, trump side say the man came out on top. so how did they do? and what key topics imaged and will this debate have an influence on the final outcome in november? those are the questions were put to august shortly. but 1st, this report from laura con, a comma harris. suffolk spaces these us presidential candidates, the oldest neck to neck. it opinion polls hoping that going head to head in

a televised debate on him. we'll see you bet bids for the white house and his next big court appearance is in november at his own criminal sentencing. she doesn't have a plan. she copied by miss bland, vice president campbell of harris and full of a us president, donald trump challenge one another on domestic and foreign policy with israel's warrant goza for a part of that debate. far too many innocent palestinians have been killed. children, mothers, what we know is that this war must and trump so this as an opportunity to attack harris g h israel at the same time in our own way. she hates the arab population because the whole place is good to get blown up. and those candidates traded follow ups with each other on issues, including the rights to a portion of the state of the economy. we're coming to says she will support

emerging small businesses. trump retorted she have no track record of doing this. donald trump left us the worst unemployment since the great depression. trump pushed, as usual, still is against immigration, saw the claiming patients in springfield, ohio work and ceiling pet pastry at their eating the dogs. the people that came in there eating the cats in the departure from previous debates, find checked as well on hand checking or clarifying trumps claims. a few times there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals. unless the debating whether there was a clear winner, but was not clear as whether this debate will convince on the side folks has to take aside in the us presidential election in november, nor calling for inside story out to 0. the. the let's bring it on august,

the old joining us from the united states in philadelphia or become us political on it is i'm for my congressional stuff, a washington dc. jennifer, victor associate professor of political science of george mason university of shaw school and minneapolis. emma coke, a republican strategist, who was the 1st female majority leader in minnesota state, is just such a welcome to the program. eric, because the debate is essentially about allowing people decide who's going to be the choice for the presidential election. what did vote as learn from the debate that they didn't know before going into the debate, the latest new york times santa polls show that nearly 30 percent of motor school were polled in that poll. clearly did not know much about complet harrison. so calmer harris needed to be able to tell her story, well, also shaping a vision for the future. and that what was so important last night and was also, while most of debates really do not actually shape elections,

it's the optics that mattered the most clearly what people are looking for is someone who basically it'd be presidential damsel can pass the commander. and she says that was what motors were looking for last night. okay. jennifer 1st presidential debate for canada. harris. should i say a sigh of relief for her and for the democrats as well. probably, you know, as, as in science, we like it when there's a one variable that varies and everything else stays the same. so as a social scientist, we got to see something last night. that was really unusual. we don't usually get to see in a presidential campaign, which is a 2nd debate where one candidate save the same and the other one changed and the contrast couldn't have been clearer. one of the things that i took away from last night was in the 1st debate, it was very clear not so much that trump one, but that finding very much last at that one variable difference between that. and now it shows that in the, in this debate,

it seemed very clear that kala harris was the dominant figure. amy, you know, the way media characterized as the outcome of debates. so basically the it, it's been widely seen as come out of high risk one without delivering the knockout for trump. how do you see that? yeah, that's what i see. actually, her numbers coming out of the debate were not as good as even a secretary clinton's coming out of their 1st debate. both of them were decided victors in the debate, and i do think she handled herself very well. i do that. she missed an opportunity because so many americans don't really know who she is. she definitely knocked it out of the park. and when she was talking about domestic policy, when she was talking about reproductive rights. but i do feel like she needs to still let us know a little bit more to your personality a little more and let us know a bit more about her personally. but you know this really most of the 4 of them. i think that she can do that. we've missed on the cnn interview as well. i think

there's more work that you mentioned you there. eric was her best full perform as the best performers for how was the fact that she managed to go trump into a puerto. she never gave him a chance to present his own vision for what's happening next. when he becomes president, spending most most of his time trying to refute every single attack and bump against him. no question. this was an implosion by donald trump, and it was certainly precipitated by comma harris's golding of him, which we knew and expected. she would do, however, because kama harris coming into this debate had not done a lot of media interviews, had not been in a debate in 4 years. she was same as the x factor. and clearly i think people want to know more about her story and i think what people perhaps would've wanted see there was more about what in fact she that was seen as a guiding thing for her during the, by the in harris administration. how does she plan to actually take those policies

that have been implemented, move them forward, but also waiving her narrative into that last night was certainly i think an audience for her to do that because it was a captive audience whether or not she did that. we don't know one, so people actually began to respond to what to place last night. jennifer, she owned much of the debate, should dictate to the terms of the evening. but did she manage to present her plan for the american people? and particularly for the on the side of voters, you know, these debates are almost always measured against expectations. we go into them with particular kinds of expectations for the candidates. and then we see whether or not they met them. and going into this debate, i would say that for harris, the expectations were very high. when, when biting 1st chapter, as the nominee, she came out saying i can prosecute the case against donald trump. and this was her 1st test about whether or not she could make good on that claim. and you know, a campaign doesn't typically relish very high expectations for their candidate

because it's so easy not to meet them. i would, i would say that trump also had fairly low expectations because that's kind of how, how we tend to treat donald trump and, and even with those expectations that i would say that harris met them. she was prepared, she was strategic. she was this year. you had a clear prepared strategy in which she would deliver these substances remarks that were mixed in with this beats that she knew he would not be able to let alone. and in the end, that means i think trump have more speaking time overall in the debates. and that did not harm harris at all. mm. a me, when you add all the defensive as trump was, you basically have to accept that you will receive more and more punches. do you think that was this was a missed opportunity for donald trump? no. so i actually think this was the best i've seen him and i've not been a big fan of the of trump and debate. he was never repaired. he, frankly, one me, a copy of the discussion of the economy and

a foreign policy. and he was driving the discussion there, i think where people get where people are seeing this as a win of one. she was definitely stronger and domestic and reproductive rights. those are going to be the areas that she's going to be the strongest. however, on immigration, which should have been his issue, which i should have called she did pull him out, distract him with discussions about his riley's and then he had this whole, you know, you know, sort of crazy old man diatribe about ohio and people's eating dogs and that's what's being remembered, but watching for a policy discussion of ukraine and, and israel, she was off here because they tried to beat a menu picking aside in your brain. and he said, i want the word and that's the right answer. and on the economy he started, i was like, oh, this is a different man. it's, it's just that donald trump gets in donald trump's way and he really did in a huge way on an issue that should have been a string of what you said earlier. that how was knew beforehand that the

expectations are high and people wanted to know more about what you see. this is a problem when it comes to substance. and the moment when she should have talked more about why she's been fit for people and some of the decision is most sense of clarity about her positions when it comes to border crossing tracking. and so one, so for she was not really that elaborate on those particular issue. just do you think that would come to hold her in the next debate? i know not at all, and i have to actually speak about this was this whole idea of flip flops. that was certainly used a great effect during the 2004 election when george w bush to speak against john kerry. but i think the actually have a candidate have anybody who actually just kind of was overtime on their issues in their thinking. i think that's something that should be important, not actually a time. but if we want to look at our, in fact, this debate, wait last night,

all you have to do is go inside the spin room in the debate fall after the debate took place. and none other than donald trump himself actually showed up saying that there were supposed immediate fall showing the need overwhelmingly won the debate. and clearly when he was doing was trying to watch me spend the narrative that he actually had one, which clearly was not the case. and so i think what we saw last night was this was a debacle. uh no way around it for donald trump. and i think coming out of that, it was, it could be potentially consequential because we know the largest between both of these candidates going into the election were so razor a bit, i think jeff, so one of the highlights of the debate was basically the reaction of coming to have is particularly when trump was making those. i'll send this remarks about it because eating pets. let's come ask you a question about a poodle wise nation. well, ultimately, trump does understand very well. the hey,

has a strong power base, a support base the with ultimately trust him. so fact checking doesn't make any difference. you know, i think it's important to keep in mind that debates are a very sort of traditional way that we do campaigns and campaign politics in the united states. we used to have a whole commission on presidential debates that would pre negotiate and pre organize these things. and that was all on a schedule. and we knew about the debates before even the candidates were settled sometimes. and we don't have that more. and the reason we don't have that in me anymore is because donald trump refused to go along with that system. donald trump is a popular style candidates that does not play to the norms of regular politics. and so we put him now in a venue and debate that is a traditional style and he's a non traditional candidate. so it doesn't surprise me at all that we wind up with uh, sort of him doing his regular outlanders thing. harris doing her much more measured,

traditional as an expert saying, and the contrast comes off quite starkly. so i think that the, um yeah, go ahead. oh, okay. i mean, if i were a undecided both voted from north carolina, i would be more interested in learning more about trump's plan for the 2nd time. now when i see him being baited into reacting and ready to most of the comments made with my a come at a higher so then i would say, i'm not really impressed with the thing with the president. trump is all of that is big again. and so we sort of take it, i'm sorry to say as it comes because that's what it is. and so at being a non traditional candidate, which i completely agree with the, those kind of rules do not apply. trump to have the woman problem. trump as a problem, that if the women, if women turn out and kind of look why it's power numbers that they did in 2022,

he's got an issue. on the other side, on the other side of vice, president harris has is hemorrhaging man. and not just white men, men of color as well. and so they're going to have to sure that up and it neither those group either those candidates succeed or fail in those areas. that's the bulking ok. eric's what do you think happens next? always going to see the mental building in favor of come out of harris, or do you think trump still has a strong chance? i think this is an interesting, in terms of what we see coming out of that debate, because i think going into the children debate, i think the latest. oh, because we're showing that perhaps pamela harris's campaign was beginning to hit a wall in terms of these large rallies that were in fact building momentum, n c, record fundraising as well. and now given the success that she had last night, perhaps we will see a new phase of this campaign where you begin to see kala harris do more interviews

where she is engaging. how many more about her story, but more importantly, what her plans are for the country different brought to use the market. and the reason i say that is because literally last night what we saw some come on the harris was, she continues to go back to this and narrative of her coming from this middle class family. and so clearly she was recognizing that she needed to do more to tell her story. and i think now that she recognizes that, we could see a new phase of her campaign for she tries to do more connecting. well, she used to the american people to watch. ready and build a base very much like what you see with donald trump. jennifer hillary clinton wanda, to debates against trump bus. you lost the election cuz this give us any less than about what could happen in the upcoming weeks. yeah, i mean, certainly one of those lessons is that democrats should not be over confidence. all evidence that we have suggest that this is going to be

a close election. we live in a very hyper polarized partisan environment and united states. we do not use a popular vote, and so this election is going to come down to, you know, perhaps less than a $100000.00, maybe maybe more than that. but, you know, not very many votes across fibers 6 days perhaps. and so that sort of nice edge kind of result that we've seen in the last couple of elections that we should probably expect again, because the way partisanship is organized now suggests to me that we are going to see, you know, this is gonna remain heated until the end and i do, you know, there's, there's no reason to think that this is going to be some kind of blow out, or one of the candidates is going to start sitting back or, or acting like they've already lost. that being said, it's been very interesting in the last week to hear donald trump on the campaign trail, making statements that are sitting down in election administration. you know, he's, he's sort of already talking about making false claims about meal and balance in

pennsylvania and so forth. so this is definitely anti democratic, the here that seed out in election administration, that is not at all what we want to see. unhealthy democracy's not edit suggests that he is already cra crafting a plan for if he loses that might make where, where he might react similarly to how he did in 2020. and that's very concerning amy, one of the strong punch lines by the highways when she reminded a trump, who was 5 by 8 to 1000000 voters. and to do that for reasons, she wanted to remind people of the claims that he made a vice but election for the most. the attack of the capitol hill in uh, january the 6th 2021. do think this episode is likely to hold him in the upcoming weeks? i don't see that again. i don't think these are new claims by donald trump, either erroneous and wrong, and he should be quiet about them. but he, he's been making those since 2020 and so i don't think that's going to impact that

. although i understand why the here's campaign wants to, you know, continually bring that up and make sure it's a bit. it's a fair attack. however, i really think that americans right now, all polling is showing, we're concerned about inflation. we're concerned about the economy. we're concerned about immigration, these are the issues that are coming up and the candidates would do well to focus on what they're going to do about those things. and, and frankly, the better argument last night for economy was a go with president trump and the better immigration when was a was vice president. here's the thing, eric, if we ought to move forward. now let's talk about both candidates tied. now, in the pools, who is likely to define the future and particularly the outcome of the election, do you think that the battle ground states are likely to deliver the final decision?

oh, absolutely, and i think there is no bigger prize in where i am right now. in pennsylvania. uh, this is, this is the upper center right now. um this selection who wins, pennsylvania will likely when this selection and what all these candidates had to do last night was speak to that very small sliver of voters in these t battleground, states. clearly, calmly, harris needed to be able to pass that commander in chief tests. and donald trump needed to show that he could be a stable force, different back years returned to the white house. clearly, those were the questions that all the candidates had pointed into the last nice debate. it's unclear how water's overall saw what took place last night, but clearly this is going to big be a razor, razor, it's been election and also just very important. we still need to talk about the role that the moderators play last night because they were very effective. i think in holding both of the candidates to their positions and also frank checking

specifically on donald trump, which is something we did not see last to be is the jennifer now dual credit strategy is now looking at the map of the swing states, arizona, florida, georgia. and michigan, nevada, and north carolina, wisconsin and pennsylvania. if paris is to seal the deal and when the election, why do you think she would have to fab better? as far as those states are concerned? i think i heard it throw florida in that next, and that went through me a little bit. the cooling that i've looked at suggests, as my co panelists just see that that pennsylvania is probably the big prize. whoever wins pennsylvania, that's likely be a tipping point. state that this part at this point, although we're still 54 days out, you know, that could change between now and election day. that's just where we are right now . but also michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania. these are critical states for democrats to in if they're going to win the election. and arizona and nevada are

also very close states and big prizes to win and turn georgia into that mix and sometimes north carolina. these are the 7 states that are most critical, and in reality, this is where the election is, is, is taking place. so, you know, hundreds, you know, a 100 and i don't know, 50000000 americans or something like that are going to cast ballots. but it is the, you know, few, few 1000000 in those 7 states where this is going to turn out to be decisive. and one of the effects of that is that if you don't swing states you're, you're not getting as much campaign at your face, which some somebody enjoy. but it tells to be this affecting for voters that can be motivating. and we, we talked in political science about a lack of personal advocacy with respect to elections and politics and representation. and that's problematic for, for democracies. and so was thinking of ways of engaging broader voters thinking about down dial it raises and encourage the people to think of voting as

a community level activity rather than something to just do for themselves. i think it's really important. amy's success, 3 percent of americans say that most of should be legal in or, or most of the of america to come in. the house knows that this is pretty much tom's vulnerable area. is she likely to further tap into it in the upcoming weeks? because she knows she could help him badly when it comes to, particularly the issue of abortion when it comes to reproductive health and women's health in general as well. i think he is incredibly vulnerable, although he has sort of his response on the idea of i think, in a, in a very good in a better way. but now this is, this is what the trump campaign has to be mindful of and where the here's campaign are going to push the sort of driving what happened in 2022, a replay of that election where women really didn't shop full, but just quietly came out and voted for the democrats. that's what they're looking for on that. conversely, she has approaching her tracking answers in our inner energy answers were terrible

and will definitely well and those keys stick to wisconsin, michigan. typically, we have 30 minutes on the proceeds. we can talk about other aspects, particularly for the policy which we know is not going to be hugely impacting the outcome of the election. but i would like to stop us asking eric about the strong exchanges when we saw about ukraine and gaza. are they going to resonate among some of the undecided voters? they won't play only at the margins, particularly the war and dies that we know. michigan has a very large, outstanding, ever american population. and so they are clearly acquired up around the issue. i want to go back to something that you brought up when you mentioned that the state of florida. and i think what we're saying with the harris campaign or something we typically we don't see from democratic presidential campaign. and i think harris perhaps recognizes that that state might be a bridge to barber also recognizes that there is a potential to actually pick up a senate seat there. and when you look at how vulnerable senator john test or the

democrat used in montana, i think comma harris has recognizes that even if she's elected president of the united states, the not having democrats in b and, and congress controlling both chambers of congress could prove difficult to actually get per, per, per, per policies past. and i think that's why we're seeing her play all play aggressively in places like north carolina, florida, and also why she has actually transferred more than $25000000.00 to many of these down ballot braces. so when we talk about a hold of government approach to policy, i think what we're seeing here is a whole politics approach to the election. recognizing that it cannot just become a harris that gets elected. it has to be the credit all up and down the ballot. jennifer's salty, if you don't mind, do you think that how has managed to convince the americans that she's going to be a strong commander in chief, if elected? this is really interesting because of she's elected, she'll be the 1st email president and the idea of a female as commander in chief has been

a barrier for some folks. and i thought on policy answers last night, were frankly, extremely strong issue with one of her 1st times talking that in that kind of public venue about foreign policy. and she really was able to demonstrate okay and articulate for kids why need it was important. and then to attack her opponents by associating himself with authoritarian dictators a member exactly that point when she associated him with the dictates as i'm saying that his election could further erode a long standing tradition of strong international political. what was that particular drum saying in the past that he is willing to abandon the alliance with ne, to those issues? do you think there will be big players in this election? no, i don't think there be large players. and the problem for vice president harris is that she can say what she wants, but she will be continued. she will be continuously tied to the board policy of the law of her administration, the by nearest administration. and that's just been a,

you know, has been difficult. it's been terrible of it, whether it's israel, ukraine, even the withdrawal from afghanistan. i think she's very vulnerable on this point. and so she might have had some, you know, kind of put the remarks on it last night, but the substance is going to be a problem for her. interesting times ahead and we're likely to wait for the upcoming weeks to see how this is going to the the evolve and what the americans are going to see on who's going to be elected as next president, eric com, jennifer, victor, amy, go, i really appreciate your insights and looking forward to talking to you in the near future. thank you and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just see it on the com for further discussion. go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j insights story. you can also join the conversational x. alejandro is a j inside study for me. ask you about about i'm the entire team a, a in doha bye. for now, the

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