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official speaking to is really media over the last several months. while all these talks and negotiations have been ongoing. there have been consecutive demonstrations for nearly 2 weeks in israel as family members of is really captive . say that enough time has gone by and the time forward deal is now the central jersey at all. i'm a and his radio star and come to school sheltering displaced palestinians in gauze . the city has killed at least 5 people. the palestinian civil defense says the strike hit the school and she'll have that as a tool and area is ready. the minute tree says it talk to the hum us c'mon, drew and took steps to avoid harming civilians. torrential rain has triggered flooding in romania killing. at least 4 people. eastern regions of the country have been badly affected with roads washed away and thousands of times damaged. more.

rain is full cost in the coming days and parts of central and eastern europe. as the chief, as me in law is doing so has made or read requests for, for an a to cope with deadly floods triggered by ty, swing yankee, the ministry says the 23 people have been killed, fonts, media report suggest it could be much higher, more than $235.00 thousands people have been forced to flee the homes off to the ty, food hit the country, bringing heavy rains and flooding. it's the most powerful storm to hit south east asia this year. but as waitlist says, it's arrested a group of 4 nationals, including 3 americans on suspicion of pulsing to destabilize the country. the arrest we made a few days ago font the countries and terry administer says they were parts of a c. i, a product to assassinate president nicholas ventura, and over throw his government state television edge was it says what weapon sees during a number of raids against the network. the state department has confirmed us military

member was detained. bots rejects his claims of its involvement in the product, the arrest come intentions between venezuela, spain, i'm us overdue lies, disputed presidential election. at least 7 people were killed and multiple russian strikes across the ukraine. among there is head to is operate, you're in south, east ukraine, west 3 from employees were killed. the region has been subjected to constant attacks from russian positions ever since the war started. it houses a nuclear power plant, which is also comp, become a target to showing in recent months. earlier russia and ukraine exchange move prisoners of war 100, a 3 peasant prisoners from each side were involved in the latest swap on site today pro could by the you a well, those are the latest headlines and these continues head off the bottom line.

the . ready ready a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question after the debate between donald trump and commer harris, who do americans trust they handle their economy immigration and the wars and ukraine and gaza. let's get to the bottom line. with only a few weeks to go before election day, former president donald trump encourage vice president commer harris clashed on just about everything in their 1st and most likely their last debate as candidates for the next president of the united states. harris focused on abortion and women's rights in general and stressed. the idea that a vote for trump was a vote for the past. while the vote for her was a vote for the future. trump railed against immigration to the united states and

question. his opponents ability to get anything done. so with less than 2 months to go where to the candidates and their party stand. and what are the issues driving victory or defeat? today we're talking with chevy. how many column this an editorial board member at the washington post and author of the problem of democracy and julia, manchester national politics reporter at the hill. okay, folks, great to have you both here we just had the 1st possibly the last we're not sure whether it would be another debate between conway harris and donald trump. but let me just start out with usually do debates matter when, when we're sort of looking out there of the voters that are left to be harvested or independence willing to be moved one way or another. do you think this debate which we saw matters to them? so in general, i think debates can matter, and we just have to go back to june of 2024 to see that that debate absolutely mattered. it was the catalyst to president biden dropping out of the presidential race. now in terms of this debate, look,

i certainly think it gives complet harris abuse and it adds to this argument that she's pushing. you know that she is more presidential, that donald trump is pushing k aussies for chaos candidates. and she's, you know, it's certainly adds to that messaging and i think it definitely gives her a bump. and we'll see if it gets her a bump in the polls. sometimes we, um, you'll often see those things impact bullying. that being said, those see democrats, i'm talking to today have been very cautious about this idea that you know, the debate means she when's the election or that it is smooth sailing from here. they are very much saying that debates do not when elections, but at the same time though i think it's notable that cala harris this campaign is calling for a 2nd debate. doing that what you? well, the chevy, let me ask you something here. you know, i am uh, a policy walk. i get excited when we talk about policy details and you've had some really interesting commentary out there basically saying we're still light on details, but it's somewhat about vive, you know,

when we saw the debate of comma harris saying some foreign leaders look at donald trump is weak that some of the people that attend his rallies get bored and leave early. and i'm not, i don't know where those things fit in the spectrum of choice on political choices . but he clearly was rattled, and i'm interested in this equation between substance and kind of superfluous and this stuff that nonetheless seems to make a difference in a debate. yeah, well exactly. i mean, it has been a largely substance free campaign. um, you know, for better and worse and we can talk about those different things. but i think the bottom line is that people don't come from it. yeah. right, exactly. if people don't vote on policy, i mean even think by the 2016 hillary versus trump. can you think of anyone who compared hillary's proposals, side by side with trump's on all the specific technocratic issues and then made their decision accordingly, when the stakes are so high,

what an election feels ex essential. it's more about what team we're part of. it's more about a sense of what does it mean to be an american? how do we see the future of the republic? do we see trump as being a threat to democracy as we know it or not? it's those bigger questions that animate us. it's not marginal tax rates or specifics on health care affordability, very few people are gonna look at those specifics and decide based on that. so i think we can help and be in a place that we're in because it is really a star choice. and when it's a star choice, it's more, it's going to be more about vibes, how you feel about that, can that and that's where we're at. we might not all like it, we might wish it was otherwise. but i think, i think this is the way it will be for the rest. i think in the debate we heard comma harris, you know, talked about, you know, his legal problems and saying it was convicted felon, etc. and you've got,

you know, other questions out there, like the danger to democracy, etc, in american, you know, a weaker american leadership in the world. but there's just a very different feeling about those things. and we have with president biden when he was in the race. we sort of felt like the dark clouds coming over like american democracy's on the knife edge of survival. you've written that. that is change that she's sort of elevated beyond that. she sort of laughs it off. yeah. is that effective? yeah, so i wrote with a colleague in the washington post last month where we, we drew on data analysis of convalesce, speeches, and campaign e mails. and what we found is that there is a major shift from wood biden was doing biden, was talking a lot about how american democracy was at the risk of dying. this doom and gloom, the sense that everything is falling apart, this dower, and this to it. and as we can see, a comma law has been incorporated

a lot more joy positivity. when we looked at the number she mentioned in the future, a lot more than biden did. she doesn't talk about january sick as much. she doesn't focus as much on from being a dictator. so there is a very conscious shift. and i think that's smart because vibes matter because people want to be some people want to be optimistic about their country. they want to feel good about being american. they want to feel that american democracy is moving forward not backwards. and i think she taps into that kind of enthusiasm. and i have to say i, i've been accomplished skeptic and i still sort of them. but i've been pleasantly surprised about how she's run her campaign and even i'm not immune, divides and i've even been surprised. i mean, my, you know, my dad is older. he, you know, born and raised in egypt. he's not someone who's online. right. and i, when i went back home and we talked about this recently, and he used the word joy and vibes,

and i've never heard him use the word vibes before. so clearly, this is a wrapped feeling like unexpected audiences. well, let me ask julia this. julie i watch is i know you did you see these people all the time president from space look yeah. really tight, really serious, really upset. he didn't, as you've written in the hill. i didn't really want to look at conway heiress. it didn't seem to, you know, turn her direction very much, but i'm sort of interested. she looked like she was having fun and, and, and enjoying on a, on a joy. right? but this is to remind our, our audience, this is a woman of south asian descent and black descent, very, very different amalgamation of character running for president. is it and looking like she's having a great time? is that this and you think that's working? number one, and is your out talking to people, how is that playing both with republicans and democrats, and i should say independence. yeah. well,

speaking of vibes that mean that i shot the pit the on the head there, she really set the town. i guess the vibe to debate right is uh the candidates were walking on stage. we saw com la harris, literally crossed the stage and to shake donald trump's hand. now that might seem like a little thing, but going back and looking back at recent presidential debates, going back to 2016 handshakes are not something we see most often. and we actually saw the gun at the memorial in new york city. so, so, but i think, you know, last night with comma harris doing that, she was able to set the tone she was presenting herself as being the bigger person . i don't think from watching the slip, donald trump was ready to crossover and necessarily do the same for her though. he shook her hand. but, you know, throughout the debate she was certainly, you know, she was able to keep her composure you. she's gotten a lot of criticism in the past year. a lot of critics talked about for last. um or, you know, they would call it a cat, right. donald trump talks about it quite

a bit. but it's amazing to see now you know her campaign, her supporters use that to their advantage. i'm talking, you know, generation brain voters. if you go on tick tock or instagram reels, they loved the joy of convalesce campaign and the joyce, she is really pushing abroad. i think, you know, when we turn a bit over to the policy side of things and this kind of relates to the vibe, the vibes in the selection as well. you know, she's also pushing this message a freedom and we heard the um, you know, joe biden, also talking about freedoms of freedom for a woman to, um, you know, be able to get an abortion to freedom for children to go to school and not have to worry about school shootings. that's how democrats have been really positioning themselves on this issue become law harris has especially leaned into that and appealing to voters. um, you know, it right when you hear freedom, i think, and it sort of falls into this category of patriotism in american us. something that i feel it seems very conservative,

historically had been more willing to embrace. but now we're seeing democrats under com la harris and tim walls, really start to reclaim that your message of freedom and sort of uh, you know, i guess a um a cater or it towards their own policy proposals for to yes with julia. i'm glad you mentioned abortion because something that, that i think was last vibe for me were the very start differences between trump and harris on abortion on immigration. that there were some very clear kind of, you know, big headline differences on, on, on this we did hear about, you know, donald trump's claim that migrants to ohio are eating their pets, which, which was uh, i'll tell the folks there's no, there's no evidence that that's in fact through, but we have various dimensions of that. but on abortion i do want to kind of come in because she really, you know, went through that with very graphic language and sort of talked about how limiting

women's choices and what they would be subjected to. i'm just interested in both of your kind of views on, on, on the impact of that that's less vive and that actually is starting different. do you agree julia? yeah, absolutely. and she knows just looking at it from a strategic standpoint, she knows that this is a weakness for donald trump. donald trump, himself has said this is a weakness, not only for him running as a cabinet, but also for down ballot republicans. and ever since we saw a rovers has weighed overturned, something that in that immediate moment was seen as a victory for conservatives, and those in the pro life, right? anti abortion movement. you know, after that the party has really struggled to gain it splitting on this issue, struggled, obviously, in 2022. and i think it's the reason why democrats over performed and republicans underperformed in virginia, is off year elections in 2023, glen young and was trying write a message on this moderate, maybe 15 week band, or 15 weeks restriction that didn't play with a lot of swing voters in virginia. so donald trump,

i think it was clear he was struggling to message on this issue. and it was notable that when he was talking about it, he suddenly pivoted to student loans. and how, um, right, the buy number is ration or has not been able to, you know, achieve, it's a goal of being a pain, a helping right and see a pay off loans and mass. so i think it shows how we, republicans are on thank you. sadie, like to get your quick thoughts on that. but i also want to ask you something, you know about com la harris's other framing. she said, i'm not joe biden. emphasize the generational shift there, which is another nuance and, and vibe, i suppose. but she sounded to me a lot like joe biden when it came to gaza. so middle east policies. yeah, i mean on the middle east, someone like me is going to be disappointed. i've been very critical of the, by the administration's approach on guys that for, you know, all the obvious reasons um, but primarily because biden is really struggled to express any real empathy

towards palestinians as human beings. and that's why media is that, i mean i've noticed that there, it wasn't until the king of jordan was with him on stage. did you actually heard president biden talk about the victims of this, this conflict with any real human depth? and i'm just why is that? it's, it's a, it's really hard for me to get my head around it. because button is known as to empathize or in chief, someone who can relate to people. but on this one issue, he's really failed to do that. i think there's probably a number of reasons he's part of an older generation that still has an idealized division of israel. and i think i, i don't know, uh, the middle lease is in some ways i think a blind spot for bite. and he, he's very pro democracy when it comes to every region, but not on the middle east. he's been quite indulgent towards the dictators not as indulgent as donald trump. that's a different level. but he promised to put more pressure on saudi arabia when he was a candidate,

but then that largely went by the wayside. so i think when it comes to the middle east, he has a very traditional view of let's just kind of get things done with autocrat. yeah. and kind of hold our noses, but i will say comma is better when it comes when it comes to talking about palestinians. she, she didn't have that line about palestinians deserving dignity, right? i don't think vitamin would have been, but are those are those are those words or do you suspect she'll have a different plan and action? i mean, one of the things is we're watching this horrible nightmare in gaza, of tens of thousands of innocent people being killed along in, in this conflict. and you just wonder is everything now just pastoring or do you suspect that campbell harris will have to, at some point, come out with a decidedly def. i mean, unfortunately, up until now she's given no indication that the actual substance of the policy will change. i mean, even if you look how she talked about it in her convention speech, she talked about the suffering of palestinians, but she didn't, she talked about it in the passive tends. the people who are causing the suffering

are, is really soldiers and is really military. so there's still is this sense of not making the connection that is real has to be reined in and that requires putting pressure on is real to not be as brutal as it's been towards policy and civilians. but we'll have to wait and see until if she becomes president, that's going to be the real test. cuz i think right now she doesn't want to say anything that will be used against her cause commotion arises. yeah, julia, one of the things i found is that most effective line that donald trump had, and the debate was, she wants to do all these things. but what have they done for the last 3 and a half years? they've had plenty of time and they done anything other. i mean, what, you know, she sort of sounds like she's running against herself if you will. i mean, how is that play out? how did you hear that? that comment from trump? yeah, so we knew that trump was going to say that going into this debate, you know, talking about, you know, the unfinished job and finish job, you know, on the economy, for example,

not doing uh well for sure. you're literally on integration. that was something he's really 0 with it on throughout the debate, knowing that that is a weakness for democrats. um, you know, look, i think he would have landed well if he wasn't as rattled throughout the debate. i mean, charlie said this before a lot of these debates often times are not about substance, and voters aren't necessarily voting on substance and policy 100 percent of the time. so i think that line didn't land the way the trump campaign wanted it to because he was so rattled. and because, you know, he sort of went on these tangents, for example, talking about, you know, the unfounded claim that immigrants in springfield, ohio are eating their pets. that's a total distraction. i mean, that might play well with the mazda proud. who finds that funny for, you know, whatever reason. but if you're a suburban female vote or in the, you know, the suburbs of philadelphia bucks, county for example, watching that,

i don't know if you appreciated that kind of comment or even if that kind of, you know, that, that kind of comment might have um, sort of put blinders on for the rest of the debate when it came to trump. so i think he was his own worst enemy in many ways. i and that's why i didn't land you shoddy were still, you know, i guess 50 some odd days. you know, it depends on when people watch the show from the election is still a little bit away. but are you getting the sense that either calm or harris or donald trump might drive either a red wave or a blue waves? you think that this election is turning out to be very close, you know, sort of a, you know, jump up for a, you know, you know, a ball all in the air, or is it something where you sent a wave my go one way or the other affecting some of the down valid races because what we have went on and talk, we're talking a lot about the presidential race, but there's also the senate up for grabs the house of representatives up for grabs . what's your sense? like, i mean, we're not a country where big waves are very likely to any more. we're

a closely divided nation and i think it's really important for liberals and democrats to be a little bit self aware on this. there's all this enthusiasm about com a lot, but let's not forget, this is a very close race. and if you look at most of the election forecasts up until now, come on, has a slight edge, but it's not by much. and, you know, trump could very well when this and i think we also have to remember that from speaks to a very different vibe than might be appealing to other parts of the country. when he ended on his concluding remarks on, in the debate, he really emphasized this theme of american carnage. that things are bad, that america is in decline, that things are dark. and if you're someone who feels left behind who's really struggling, who is, you know, not finding meaning in their lives. the kind of crisis of loneliness that i think a lot of narrow a lot of those americans have to be honest. there's a lot of those americans who feel like the ne, as sort of, you know,

had it in for them that government hasn't worked out for them that they saw directly during a financial crisis. and it's very easy if you watch the, you know, sort of m s, n, b, c vs fox. but m s, n, b, c. there's almost no reference of the kind of down and out crowd in america. so i'm glad you raised that. but you know, julia, i'd love to get your sense to, you know, so as you sort of see it, how do you see down ballot races being affected one way or another, but by the debate that we just had. yeah, and what think about mentioned that down in that crowd you guys were just talking about. a lot of them are pivotal swing states, pennsylvania, michigan in wisconsin. so you know that message donald trump is pushing it may not play well to, you know, your average, your average person and a political media bubble and a more liberal bible. but it certainly could play well outside of that. look in terms of the down ballot races. it's interesting, you know, i think it's, it's difficult for some of these democrats running for reelection in tough districts to necessarily, or states to necessarily run with com

a lot or on com or 8. so you can call me, i harris's record, it was notable that shared brown and john tester did not attend the democratic national convention. i don't think they will be talking quite a bit about this debate because, you know, a lot of their voters are not necessarily going to be making their decision. um, you know, based on what they're saying on the debate and it could be a liability for them if they praise harris, you know, there's some, there's what ticket motors, there's voters who you are still very undecided. but i think for a lot of these down valid democrats facing target races and republicans as well. they want to run as local of a race as possible. but what's fascinating though, and these polls came out prior to tuesday night, these polls came out on monday morning console had, you know, a slew of swing state polls and actually non spring state polls as well. showing commer harris not only closing the gap in swing states, but also making up ground in states where biden was struggling. states like virginia, there was

a point i think were biting was leading trump. i may be one to 2 points in virginia . now he harris is leading him by 10 points, and one of the states really fascinates me, the selection that, you know, i think we could be talking more about is florida. you know, i don't think democrats, you know, are necessarily going to flip florida. i think that's a pretty, you know, a pill klein but that morning console pull showed donald trump leading cala harris by just 2 points in that state. so just real i, we, i just real quick. just add on that julia want to ask you do 3rd party candidates matter in this race when these divides are so does deal sign cornell west as you know, are of k, endorsing dollars that matter. and some of these close to races in ways in which they haven't traditionally matter, but just real short form. yeah, and i think it's clear r k a. the trump campaign literally thinks they matter because our case desperately trying to shut off the ballot and a number of the states. where is democrats?

i would rather him stay on the ballot so we're still seeing them have that of that coming back to you know shad. he's a great article in the post on vibe. um is taylor swift a swing state finally? i think it yeah, it's very important. look, taylor swift is obviously popular with voters. i think across the spectrum in terms of her music. her polish actually certainly obviously leans left. but you know, her brand, her music is one thing, but she has proven herself to be it should be an influence in terms of getting, you know, young voters in particular to register when she puts out those called actions on her social media. we actually have seen an uptick and registration among young voters and in an election when jen z and millennial voter say they are more fired up. that's very important because even though these voters say they are high fired up, we know that historically they vote at lower rates compared to, you know, baby boomers are people um, over 65 years and older. so this could certainly make

a difference. so there you have it folks. taylor swift may in fact via swing state hills, julia manchester and the washington po. chevy. i mean thank you both for being with us today. thanks for having. thank you. so what's the bottom line? will america remain deeply engaged in the world or less? what will it do in ukraine? what is real policy remain toothless? or will washington actually do anything to help palestinians achieve freedom? these are the sorts of questions on people's minds, both here in the united states and around the world. sure, the differences between trumping harris couldn't be more stark on so many issues, but voters are nearly evenly divided between them. so that means that no matter who wins in november, they're going to have a tough time because americans will not suddenly unite and start to compromise with each other. the struggles over crime over the southern border. how to manage the economy, abortion, and yes, even foreign policy are going to go on and on. that's what democracy is all about.

it's mfc now, and it's probably only going to get a log mess here. and that's the bottom line, the these off church solutions that gives us no for a future that we have to find creative solutions, not just turn our backs on the. don't think that has a number, think about it as a person and yourself and that person's shoes. so as you can see for this is my us, my life, and at least in my life, those stages we want. we want the education, we want to go. because the women in my country, the not sweet to come up to on we are in the night all a to we are a few months being done. this has to be trees and the coins. we are working in their thoughts. that's our officers. whatever has been done before can be done

even better. as long as the human being is doing it. you just have to keep pushing because no one else can see. the vision is keywords. you to the hello, i'm sorry. the highest in the top stories on al jazeera, hundreds of thousands of his raise, all venting the frustration of the government's failure to free moved captives from garza. they've run 8 across the country fee yet another thought today to put more pressure on prime minister benjamin netanyahu to agree to a deal during the tel aviv riley police. the scene scuffling with protesters. several arrests were made and his radio struck on his school sheltering displaced,

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