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a 26 year old american turkish activist and the occupied westbank has once again brought a troubling issue into the spotlight. is riley forces targeting civilians despite international condemnation and calls for justice. questions linger about whether any one will be held accountable for shooting the young women. these really minute traces it's investigating the critics say these internal probes rarely lead to prosecutions. is the international community, particularly the us doing enough to demand out accountability and what would it take to break this cool. we'll delve deeper into this shortly with all panel of guess. but 1st is report from axles on the, which is the coastal count, or did the mean south west or through thousands bid farewell to i should note, ascii ag, 26 year old american turkish activist was laid to rest in the town where she was born. and is rarely snipers shot her in the head during a demonstration against the expansion of the legal settlements in the occupied the

west bank or the i'm assuming the whole these really soldiers were firing, live rounds up the palestinians and volunteers. and they were throwing stones up beyond me in the 2 groups for about 300 meters apart. so the stones did not hit the soldiers discount for one of these various rugs the back here. and i think a sniper was among them because he placed a weapon on top of the wall. he fired 2 pallets, and one of them hit the texas women. i should know this really military said, i should know it was killed by accident. and although he condemned the attack, the us said they would rely on the findings of these really investigation rather than conduct its own prob, you do need to wait to see the results of the investigation to know whether there need to be any specific criminal criminal consequences for the part the, the individuals involved, it's important to that investigation, play out. and i, as i said, it ought to be prompt and thorough and transparent. i shouldn't or joins a girl in the list of civilians killed by is really forces in may 2022 alger 0

correspondence, sharina block list. what shot to the head while covering the rate in the janine refugee camp. multiple investigations concluded she was killed by. it's really gunfire. no one was prosecuted in 2010 is really forces to on the turkey so many peer in age of heading to gaza, killing 10 activists in 2003 american. rachel corrie was crushed by an is really both. those are while protesting against the demolition of homes and garza, the military labeled it an accident and the following month and is really the soldiers shot and killed the british citizen tom handle. the soldier was sentenced to 11 years in prison, but released early, or in cases involving the killing of foreigners or palestinians. this really military conducts internal investigations, research wise, really, right screw up yesterday and shows of the 1260 illegal complains filed against the

military. between 20172021. only a fraction were investigated and only 11 resulted in indictments. critics say internal investigations that created that dangerous cycle of impunity as victims, families demand justice rights organizations say the pattern of these rarely forces killing civilians and the lack of independence investigations. re serious questions about accountability access, i'm gonna reach out to 0 for insights story. the, well, let's bring you know, a guess today to discuss all of this from washington dc. we're joined by me co pilot, the founder and president of palestine house of freedom. he want sub with these really special forces. but since he began advocating for palestinian rights, he's been arrested several times by his radio authorities in new york. daniel santiago is a peace activist who like i show no id was demonstrating. and beta last month when

he was shot by these ready military and intel of eve, a man or an economist for her rights newspaper, who focuses on military and government affairs. thank too old for joining us today . why are we focusing on this case when over 41000 palestinians hoping killed and gossip? because i think it demonstrates what's going on in the west bank. the legal land grabbed by israel, but also the way the military operates. and the fact that seems to be complete impunity, even with a us citizen, mika, you use this of in these riley miller tre. tell us, you'll, you'll, you'll view of this case. well, i like you said i in light of the 10s of thousands of dead and in guns over the last of the year. and a lot of the fact that on that same day, a 13 year old girl was killed, that was in

a nearby village. the only thing we can say is that we're paying attention to the one to the one casualty, that was a foreigner, there was an american citizen at target citizen. but there's nothing unique about this. i mean, i've been to accomplish protests and, and the soldiers. these are trained snipers, they have a sniper sides of the trains of snipers. and these cases accounting of kenning protesters is, is a shooting targeting process. there's, there's nothing new. it's, it's, it's goes, it's, it's all, it's completely matter of fact. then we can have, you know, carries like shooting a walkway where it's probably an assassination that was ordered from above. or it could be something like this. the local commander decided to take out this of this particular project or, but we, we don't know, but the bottom line is there's nothing unique about this is real kills. we're going to unity. it is really army, and the soldiers know that would not be punished. and in fact there and the heroes when they do these things and it's, it's part of this, of this opportunity. the israel exist,

which is really exist. major national community allows it to exist. so no sanctions, nobody discuss the sanctions. nobody discusses on arms of vargo, which are the, the actions that one would expect when such violence and criminality is, is, is um, you know, it takes place by about, okay. let me, let me bring a man in because he's in tel aviv 1st. i mean, it, it, tell me how is this being viewed in israel? i mean, is it a big deal? is it, is it a big story on the news every day? you know, it is not. if you're talking about the i is rarely public in general, these rarely public is indifferent to what is happening in the west bank um, in general and to these stories. yes, there are groups of uh, activities, uh, people who our courageous, who go uh week in and week out. and brooke, tech as much as they can. some of the shepherds or some of the other policy

unions. but they are and minority. the majority of these rallies are being bombarded daily, sometimes hourly, by other security news, doesn't me so from yemen and rockets from level known and soldiers being killed in garza. and so many other items that even if they had some reservoir of empathy for the palestinians or the other demonstrators, this is not the time, this is not the year in which most of these rallies are going to for you or show this empathy. okay, let's bring in daniel now, who's in the us. and now daniel, your story is, is very interesting because about a month before i tional id was killed, you were in the very same place, a similar demonstration on a friday and you were shot 1st. how are you now?

how are you recovering? you shorten the leg. yeah, i'm recovering pretty well. i'm thankful that it did not hit any bone or major artery. so it was just straight through my right bye. and it was just mostly muscle . so i just have to see if i need physical therapy, but, but i've been walking a little bit better. now you, this was your 1st trip, i believe, to the region in the same way. it was, it was i, he's 1st trip to the region, then very disturbing. some of the accounts that i've read of, of what she said in the hours before she was on the phone to some relatives. she spoke to her cousin scene talks about how grim she found it arriving in jerusalem that in the west bank, the daily existence that she found. tell me this, do you will power. lo, jenny, what was it like for you when you 1st arrived?

so my 1st arrived there, we did a training the day after um we were just getting things together. um money. um i have to buy some clothes. and then finally we had a beautiful dinner with the palestinians. um, but it was the next day where we were part of the weekly demonstration. and that's when it was my 1st time. yes, uh, confronting the is really army. they were far away in the watchtower and it was my 1st time at the weekly demonstration and beta. now let's come back to a story in a moment, but maybe i get a man now to tell me a little bit more about beta. i'm white as being this flash point, that it is a new novelist, teen kilometers south of not blues. why has that being since 2021. these

crashes that as well. you know, there's so many points of a roach right along the so called green line or even the more handland and the following tuesday, official discrimination in the way these are at least fully see these express folds, either police begins and all these others from abroad or some of these relatives who accompany them and settlers. the problem is that 1st of all, when these really military says that the soldiers felt that there was acute danger to themselves, and they had to open fire in self defense. this is there a few things by the facts, of course, um, the demonstrators were so far away that it could have been no danger, and they demonstrate this deduct fire at the troops. of course it was only one

sided, but even if one considers the possibility that the young and trained soldiers or police officers must be given. ready some rules of engagement outcome. these are so discriminatory outcome when there are peaceful demonstrations, such as mister santiago's, you end up being wounded. and when there are settlers violence, settlers not in their own settlement, demonstrating but the glory to some police senior village or some probably seen you lead track or growth in order to complete the violence. they're all of the sudden the iron spaced becomes good gloves. okay, let me, let me bring bringing me co that i'm beta. there was a settlement that just explained to us the flash point. the reason for this flash

point, i believe it's only recently in recent years being a settlement, but in recent months will settlement so illegal on the international law. but these really government is saying it's legal on the is really low, or is that correct? as well as early as about quarter to is there a law murder and got tens of thousands of boston ends in gaza? is also legal. so i mean, that is not the standard. the standard we should be using is, is the largest standards international law. that's the standard that we should be using. and according to that standard, i would argue that there are no supplements. there are legal within all of the store in palestine because they're all built on stolen cost, any land. they all have histories, or most of them have histories, a horrible smell of massacres, not to say i do for taishan and so forth. so it all depends on the standard. we have to decide what standard we're going to follow. we can go back and forth. we can't allow israel to determine the standard israel has a genocide or part time using the fact that anybody is surprised to even notice

thinks that it's news that some that are process of a shot. when we know this has been going on for decades. this is really, is really quite absurd. the conversation needs to be about why is the thing harassing community is allowing this josiah regime that has a history mass murdering pa stadiums or matthew portez, you know, paused in the hands of land and building settlements, all of which are illegal. why is that not the conversation? why are we not in public discussing how to impose sanctions? why are we not discussing in arms and bar go in the no fly zone over because of the issues with the conversations. i mean, every life is precious, of course, in every policy and, and i've seen, you know, as, as a broad test drive, it just so many of these project. and i've seen people shot targeted and shot on, you know, many, many times. and i've seen the soldiers, i've seen the snipers policy and his wife bravely, you know, approach that sometimes they'll put a positive in slide right on the side with the so is there a nearby?

so i mean there's nothing new here as long. okay. just keep the, let's go back to, let's go back to diamonds story and also what, what happened to i tional id she, according to the witnesses, had been that when they performed the communal friday, pratt is up. but then the protest as was surrounded by these are the forces who fought a, a gas force them down the hill about 200 meters. and then after a moment of calm that with 2 shots and she was shot dead. tell us your own experience. how similar was it to that? yeah, so um we, we start out with a gym repair that one without incident. then there was the jumping that started. and once the tramping started, um, that's when the tier goes to a shot at us and live rounds. we have to hide behind the concrete. well, we saw it to your guns coming at us. if you want 510 more feet away from the

wall. you would have got shot by live ammunition. we know his love, i munition, because we saw the deaths coming off the concrete. well, at some point post stains the, the is really military was coming down the watch tower. so we ran, we had to climb over a country wall. we had to get through a clearing. so finally we regrouped after maybe 5 minutes after we saw a lot of cost engines running and they said it was clear too for us to run. and we were at the foot of the, the hill that they were on. they were coming down from the towers bishop, to your guys, look at us and live rounds. and then from our left pulse meetings were running behind a, behind us through the olive grove. and we ran to the weiss, we were so down that's when it was shot. okay. and you must feel given what you look now has happened in the last week. very, very lucky. yeah. i felt very,

very lucky and sad and angry because it was the same demonstration i was shot at. and there was no telling ability when i was shot. and now we have someone from the united states was that was murdered. alongside 17 other posts. that means to have been killed and beta amico, you all it, let's go back to your previous role some time ago as a former member of a these are in the military and for member of special forces. i mean, i've been going to the region for 40 years now nearly 40 years, and i've seen lots of protests inside israel in occupied westbrook, the tourism east jerusalem, and in the, and in the west back. israel has lots of ways to control protests. they can use t a gas. they've very unpleasant, but they can use those rubber coated bullets. they can use those they use in east

jerusalem that skunk quarter wide on us. are they using live rounds? how can not in any way be acceptable? well, the short answer is you'd have to ask now, eh, you know, i remember being on trial lines and it is really just me the same question. they said, why would they so suddenly start shooting? i said, well, ask them because these protests are like we heard. i mean, they have historically, always been on the, on, on, on, on the protesters marching into many their rights and, but, but, but generally speaking of, there's the, the only explanation that i can think goes intimidation. they do not last active as the calm. they do not want the protesters to come. they want the past, it needs to be a heavy price. and actually they've been successful because many of the villages that historically began these friday march is back in 2005 they're in the process because they've paid such a heavy price in terms of gas, the death toll, the children being tortured, interested in song, that they have just,

they're just worn out, they can continue. so this policy of intimidation and brutalization of these on our protest, protesters has been largest successful. so why wouldn't they continue? especially since there are no consequences, not to the soldiers, not to the army, and certainly not to the state of israel. i mean we, we hit israel sometimes saying they have the most moral army in the world as a journalist who focuses on military affairs. what do we know about the rules of engagement? because most miller trees have rules of engagement. they tell us, so just you can open for, in these circumstances. is it just the case that is right. the soldiers all now allowed to far will whatever they want as well. nope. nope. uh, that's the latitude and best use of soldiers. uh, throughout the i just missed the pallets. father was both a distinguished officer and a piece pioneer. i. in fact i believe that the 1956 for several weeks he was in

charge of the gaza strip under occupation and he was very lenient. so nearly 3 governor under a general a pallet you wouldn't see such demonstrations in both the sense was uh, off uh the world, but uh, the general context is that for the last 57 years, the, uh, westbank is considered the military occupation following the 6 day war its a charade because the military commander of the area, the major general in charge of the, as well as the central command of the brigadier general in charge of the division. they are supposed to be solid according to military necessity. dominican especially if it has to do with the of the troops themselves, protection of the force or protecting the roads between various, uh, uh, settlements and the like. but they interpret the because they are subject to

government policies in such a way that palestinians, 2nd all 3rd class citizens or even less than citizens, subjects. while these rallies are self plus and secularist, already above everybody else. this is what the rules of engagement. so spend store, if they are told not to shoot at the end is rarely to commit a crime. but to show that simple as junior, who does not commit the crime and they do not be so babies older, this is what you have. but daniel, in this case, they shot someone who was a us, jo, national, you are also a us citizen. what do you make of the us response to all of this? a president biden has come out with some words, but he's not going to launch any sort of investigation. he's going to rely on these

riley's to investigate. and they've already said that they were preventing a riots and it was, it was unintentional. yeah, the president biden has been repeating a lot of those lies from israel. rachel court. his parents even said that they don't do investigations, they do cover ups, which just to remind me of you is right. rachel? corrie died in a, in gauze, in 2003, when she was protesting in front of a bulldozer that then run her down and that be numerous other cases of foreign nationals, of course with focusing on foreign nationals because of the point that even say don't get justice remembering of course, how many palestinians continue to die and i think with a bite and it's apparent that there is a complete disregard of um, towards the palestinian life as well as its own citizens. if i, if,

if they investigated or even brought to light that a us citizen was shot on august 9th. and then maybe things will be different for iceland or um we see the elected officials not speaking on what happens in the west bank and gaza, even when i was shot there was 0 flight brought to my case the only people that reached out where the, the embassy a and is account even added that. he heard that it was in unintentional and then it ricocheted off the ground into her head. i think that shameful. um. oh so that when i was shot. um the state department disagree with the is really army, that there was

a mistake that they were shooting warning shots in the air, but warning shots would come down on me. i'm not through my leg. so take a few, let me bring it me go on on the, on the us response to all of this because we've seen sadly the story involving us nationals before mike called extremely now black lake was killed. there was a case. busy of a posting in american, in january 20, 2278 year old man. oh ma, a sad who died off to an arrest, a bite soldier through a particular battalion. the net saw yahoo battalion and us secretary state mc blinkin toyed with the idea of actually freezing any us support to that battalion. and then it completely brought down you know, it's a just thing is this is just a quick list. you know, just off the top of my head, the us as liberty then was assaulted and israel and us service the, you know, i'm unable sanders were, were killed by his really 9068 regional card was mentioned the mom,

the mom are off the case on my outside would you just mention of watley, the village it was a which was which was assaulted by central is were protected by soldiers and on and on and on. these are all cases where, you know, us and other and other citizens were, were assaulted. and there are no consequences, so as long as the us continues to allow you to act with impunity and it keeps sending billions of dollars, weapons, and so forth. why would we expect anything different to happen? this is how this is. this is exactly what it's telling israel that it's okay to do what it's doing. and, and daniels case is a case in point of if there was action taken and perhaps the, you know, other lives could have been, could've been said, we wouldn't be having this conversation about another casualty of the, as the, as you said at the beginning of the program is not getting much coverage and is rather still large demonstrations and as well, but not about the palestinians. this lack of empathy. and it's

a grim way to end our discussion. but what does it say about the chances of peace right now? well, most of the direct from anything uh my 2 colleagues who said uh the uh, steel 101 hostages. um some of them uh, i live some of them already dead. paladin garza including american nationals and the world is powerless to get them out. so this is what most these rallies are interested in menu, they demonstrate this in these demonstrations are also for peace and justice territory foot piece. but though they keep it the product so as to have a wider audience including dollars. why not for it? and uh, hopefully uh, once the world gets to the business of ending the war, including waves and normalizing relations between israel and the entire middle east

and some international force in gaza. then we'll be back to the peace track and the problems of the west bank and other areas will also be upfront again. well, thank you very much. all 3 of you all guess. today, me co pilot, a, me a or and down to the daniel santiago, please continue your good recovery cover. a daniel al jazeera has extensive coverage of the situation in israel. the occupied westbank and gauze around the clock with detailed analysis on how to 0 dot com. if you have comments and suggestions post them on facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story, where you can always use text where you'll find us at a inside story. i'll see you back here very soon for me, james buys, know the team, stay safe, bye bye for now, the

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