is believe most of the page are, is were being carried by members of hezbollah. the, at a supermarket, a man can be seen there picking fruit and vegetables when his device explodes. several shoppers, including children that you see there, the background to run from the scene and appear to hold their ears and pain from the loud explosion. and now security camera footage. that's what you're watching now. shows another man's device exploding in his pocket at a shop check out. 2 staff members are hit by debris and run away from the counter as the lies cold at one of the biggest security breaches since the group was formed . emergency departments have been inundated with the injured has belong, members and civilians. local media reports say the pagers. simmons singleton usually exploded across the country after being attacked by israel. the health ministry has appealed to all citizens who own pages to dispose of them. several shots witnesses have been wanting others to get rid of their pages. jazz has that

is the page devices that we've been using. all of them are exploding in the guys. we're moving for the engine. oh, the go into the hospital. we don't have room anymore in the hospitals. there's more than $400.00 men here. there. peters exploded the ones they use for communication. these a big assassination. big assassination. a short time ago, lebanon's health minister held a press conference and gave more details about the injuries presented at the hospital. this is what he had to say. most of the saying that his audi, the injuries to the face that had for the waste part of the body and as they pull to the many of these and that is also reported. and individual eyes that require surgical operating as below, has just released the statement. it says several telecommunication pedro devices

used by some members of various has belie units and institutions exploded, as well as specialized units are currently conducting an expensive security and scientific investigation to determine the cause of the civil genius, explosions and quote, that's bringing alpha 0 as honda so who to was with us live from the jordanian capital? i'm on because the is really government has banned out from 0 from reporting from inside israel. a honda, israel has not claimed responsibility for this, which is fairly typical is real often doesn't. what do you know as well? no surprise, since there's been no response from the is really government or the is really army on what has happened in the lab. and on nearly 3000 people injured, 8 people, data 200 of them in critical condition. we have been hearing reports within is really media that the prime minister benjamin netanyahu has given

a directive to his government, his cabinet, and all other ministers now to speak about the events that took place and 11 on not to conduct any interviews or talk about it. in a general sense, we're also hearing that nathan yahoo is now huddling with his security chiefs, including israel, defense minister jo, web galani, at this hour, at israel's defense ministry known as the key. the intel of view is worth mentioning that this attack and 11 on comes after a meeting that took place last night within these really security establishment and nothing young emphasizing that a 4th goal of the war has been added. and that's to return is really as to the northern towns and settlements. remember that they had been largely evacuated from those areas on october. the 8th, when the beginning of the cross border fire, which is bottomless, started. and there been a lot of disagreements within israel on how exactly to combat the threat on israel's northern border. but according to anonymous official speaking to is really

media, last night's discussion was quite dramatic, saying that his role is ready to take to some steps, to deter that threat on the border of the to be clear. and there may not be an answer for this, but so israel wants to tens of thousands of his release, have been displaced by the cross border showing with his rely with his belong. israel wants them to be able to return to their homes in the northern part of the country have they explained how they intend to achieve that as well. there's been no sort of explanation on how to return is released to those areas after they were evacuated by the government. once the cross border fire and showing the camp. but it's important to mention the rhetoric from is really officials throughout the last several months. it's come from the very top, including the prime minister is roles defense minister and the army, chief of staff who is all said that they are quote, not afraid to turn lebanon invaded specifically into a 2nd,

garza that is really air force planes. have their news pointed in that direction and that they're prepared to take action month after month. so we've been hearing from security and defense officials in israel saying that they are preparing their readiness. they are up and get to the highest possible level of the, of the military. that's base there is conducting the largest drills of their kind in northern israel. and that's because israel is preparing for some sort of wider conflict. well, allies of israel like the united states for months, almost a year now, have been both privately and publicly pressuring these really not to enter into some sort of larger conflict that will spill over into a wider regional war. within the middle east. israel has said that they are not interested in the war, but they are prepared to do anything in order to deter are the threats from his bottle. it's not exactly known though, what israel is planning to do. they haven't set on the record. of course,

what their plans are, this is part of israel strategy to act and then speak or not speak at all when it comes to when attack. so there are a lot of moving parts here. there are a lot of discussions that are ongoing about what is going to happen next on israel's northern border nearly a year into the cross border fire. oh sure 0 is honda, so who is reporting from amman? jordan, thank you very much for all of that. we're going to get the latest now from zayna folder, joins us from a route that they know what are you. what's the latest that you're during the numbers that we have showed that this attack was far bigger than we initially thought. 2750 people injured. the yes, a mass casualty event, $2750.00 injuries are $40.00 to $11.00 on the health minister to also says that $200.00 of the injuries are critical. the also updated the death stone saying 9 people were killed in the attack. a short while ago hezbollah released yet another

statement in its initial statement. it did mention that at 330, a number of pagers exploded pages that are, were owned by members of has the law. in that statement, it said that they still do not know the cause of the explosions, but that they were investigating a few minutes later. a new statement was released with has by law saying that it holds isabel fully responsible for this aggression. like you mentioned earlier, israel does not claim responsibility with hezbollah. now holding israel, fully responsible for this operation is not clear what kind of action or retaliation has the will carry out. if in things it will be an immediate retaliation or not. because there's a lot of questions that you know, this attack in many ways disruptive the command and control of this organization. so it would be very important principle that to be able to, to show that this did not happen. so has what are blaming is raw,

the lebanese government holding a session just a few hours ago with the information minister saying that 11 on blaine's this aggression on israel. so that's the latest hospitals are overwhelmed treating the injured, the over a 100 hospitals received injured people. in the past few hours, we heard the ambulance sirens the across the city, not just in the root of the south of the country as well as the east of the country because these pagers exploded simultaneously in various areas across the 11 r. as a know you say hospitals are overwhelmed, we're watching the live shot, which is the top right on our screens of the medical center at the american university of a root. and we're seeing the crowds there that are gathering outside the building. it makes sense. give them the, as you said, mass casualty event, the number of people injured, 2750. and the health industries that over

a 100 hospitals were involved. what we're seeing also in the center of our screens, the scenes have been playing out across the afternoon as these pagers exploded and people were injured, they were being rushed to hospital and that's what you're seeing now. zeta. how is it even possible to assess how damaging this is to his blog? i mean, beyond a, you know, beyond the symbolism of it, of course they've been hit. of course some of their security protocols failed pretty spectacularly. but beyond that, how damaging is it? well or has the official acknowledge that this was the biggest uh, security breach that the organization has faced? has the law is engaged in an intelligence for with israel, a country which is technologically more advanced. it's army has, you know, more advanced equipments. it has been able to identify and locate not just has full of fighters, but commander senior field commanders,

as well as the chief of staff of hezbollah. they killed him and a surgical strike in the heart of a boot in late july. and so this, you know, it has the law is in a difficult position and many, many ways because what israel has been doing is trying to degrade the groups. capability is targeting it's rocket launchers, along the board route as targeting its weapons, the storage deposed weather in south lebanon on whether in the west because the weather in syria because as well, it does have a as well. but at the end of the day has been a law does not want to wage war. it has said that it opens a supports front for golf site and it says, still not use. it's full military capabilities. this is an organization that's very different than what it was in 2006, during the last war. it has precision guided missiles that can fit across as well. it can cause damage can have tend to be if it can hit this route,

3rd largest city high school. but it has been calibrating it's a tax trying to prevent a full on war by interest keeping up the pressure on this rate of government and the war on cause of. but we heard, has, well, the officials say time and time again. they are ready for war, they are prepared for war. the biggest question is, how are they going to respond to this attack? and what is israel going to do? is this going to be followed up with, you know, further ask really intensify. it strikes the frequency, the intensity, and the of it strikes on on hezbollah targets. so really this is the concern today . this was an attack against hezbollah. yes. but 11 on as a whole has been affected and the people are concerned and asking whether this attack which group disrupt the combined them principle of hezbollah is israel paving the ground for a potential escalation. and it's conflict with the arms group say to hold

a reporting from the streets of the 11 east capital barrow. thank you very much for that. say now i turned to mohammed and must read professor of media studies at the doha institute for graduate studies. how do you look at this as well? it's certainly a very provocative act. i've been listening very carefully to the analyst that you, that you all have had on your correspondence. certainly some really interesting insights. one of the things that came to my mind immediately, it's actually i'm going to pick you back a little bit off with something that model on the shadow side a few minutes ago. and that relates to is really deterrence. israel sees it's deterrence policy as it's main uh, strategic weapon mostly diane. the former is really military leader and foreign minister and defense minister said that it's important that israel's enemies see it as a quote mad dog. that's a direct quote. ariel sharon, former prime minister, said something somewhere he said, the main weapon does that, does a quote, he said, israel's main weapon is quote, the fear of us. so in many ways,

i think this attack is designed to sort of instill fear, not only has the law in lebanon, but also uh, 2 other elements. let's say in the, in this axis of, of resistance and young men in iran, in the palestinian territories, both in gaza and, uh, and the westbank has the law. and all of these members, the members of this excess of resistance, know very well that israel has this very sophisticated technology and surveillance infrastructure. it's one of the best in the world, if not the best in the world. they've been warning his beloved fighters against using cell phones. mobile phones hung us about blocking mount a few months ago and said anyone who's caught using a mobile phone near the battlefield will be kicked out of his below. so they know this very, very well, increasingly over the past few months has belies been using couriers so, so they knew that devices any devices could compromise them. absolutely,

but i still thinking this, obviously they're there. they're going to be shocked and stunned by what happened today. because this is, it's not an attack on, on mobile phones. i think that would have been expected as we have done that before . but it's worth pointing. it is age years. i mean, pagers, who use this page or is this is a very low tech mode of communication. exactly. exactly, and not just underscore is the fact that has the law and other fighters and in the region know very well that israel has this kind of capability, right? so they were forced into that. now i think what's going to be interesting is to see what his beloved does from here. uh, as you've been reporting this kind of disrupt their communication network, they do have other means, but they've been using increasingly over the past few months. my understanding based on some things that have been read reading, they've been using couriers. so now are they going to go back to that and to what extent does that sort of compromise their ability to wage war against israel?

i know some of you, some of the guests have been saying that this is not necessarily a precursor to a larger attack, and i'm not, i'm not a military security studies expert per se, right? but it seems to me that one of the things you might want to do before a large scale invasion is to dis, disabled, or disrupt the communication network of the enemy. so i do think we have to be paying very close attention to what happens over the next few hours and potentially a couple of days. mostly thank you very much for that. i'm going to take some of those thoughts and observations actually to our next guest. and i've just been told that the death toll from this attack has now increased to 9 people killed. so where a 2750 people injured, 250 critical injuries. and no 9 people killed a spring into a mile holes in a political commentator and ryder, you're joining us from the root. and this can we, can we spend some time on the fact that pagers worth hacked because mohammed or

previous guess, i think you heard him. that was reminding us that miss riley told his belong members not to keep their cell phones right. go low tech and forget with the forget about the electronic or digital communications. well, clearly, hezbollah thought they were safe with pages and clearly they were wrong. i mean, obviously this is where the investigation needs to go and where the heck to where they actually the shipped in in that condition. so they can be used as a weapon of a, a for a wide scale attack. because i mean, there are, uh, we don't have that information yet, but some of the leasing information. they're saying that this is the page or in question was actually acquired reset within the past few months. so uh uh, so apparently, i mean, again, i'm gonna quote to edward snowden,

who says that the suspect said despite the supply chain uh, breach. so it might have been something from the source of the page or the manufacturer of the page or something happened at that level. but i'm not sure i get to the real thing. i'm not sure i get most mode in reference when you say supply chain breach, meaning that the pagers that has beloved bought may have been corrupted and somehow infiltrated by israel prior to actually being that's deliberate, into 11 on right. so i, that's one possibility, that's a possibility that that's what it's called. it was a putting forward then the, and a actually think this is the lesser of evils. because the other possibility is that they can do that. so any page or, or to any communication device and you phone. so that would be even scarier. uh when you can actually. i mean, uh, every person on earth would be caring at a time,

bomb adults. uh so unless they were uh breached at some level viewing the supply chain, then it's a very scary thoughts that what can be done. but uh so we don't know, we don't know yet. of course we'll, we'll have to wait to find out what exactly happened and when, how, where they reached. but obviously there is a major intelligence operation that's probably involves more than just the, the is riley is probably as american hands involved because this is the and i, i don't know where the source of the manufacturer of the painters is. so we also have to look at where that took place and, and how did they make it to 11 on the, in the past few months. so this is a lot to, to follow up on, but uh, obviously something went wrong along the way. yeah. it as and as you say,

i think it's, it's, it's, it's fair to say that you might have that as well. i was going to want to find out how such a big part of their communications network could have been compromised in a way that they didn't see. i want to ask you a question that has nothing to do with analysis. how are people in 11 non ceiling right now? i mean, soccer, there's obviously a sense of shock in the country and it's a very painful event that we're talking about to thousands of injuries. and that's uh, that's a huge number. so obviously, the re, but the reason i ask you this question is because there's a, there's a unique character to 11 on and to the lebanese. anybody who has lebanese friends will notice the country has been through such a long period of war uh, whether direct, high intensity kinetic or, or whether

a shadow or nearly war. you know, that people have got used to living with this. as, as part of their, in the background of their lives. and often, even when there's a strike on the roots, for instance, you'll speak to a lebanese friends on myself. this is part of this part of life for us. we're used to it and i just wanna know how this is hitting, whether it's more of the same or whether people are really surprised this time or what. i mean, we've seen a lot of things happening to level on that. i would say this is the, the biggest the no, it's not something normal. it's the biggest event that we've seen since uh they report explosion. and that was also very, a traumatic amount of sirens and ambulances on the streets was a, was tremendous. i mean the all afternoon we kept hearing the sirens, and this is definitely not a normal event. no, it's not a business. as usual. it's actually a, it's will be a, a day that will be marked like

a major events like the be report explosion. for example, okay, back to analysis, where do you think this is going? uh i right. no, i have find it hard. not to see escalation. i mean, i really don't think this is something that was go on, answered. there will be a response. uh, i get uh now the when and how that remains to be seen. but now you see things uh, escalating them probably. i mean, the, some of the people have been putting for the ideas that this might be a precursor to actually escalation from the is really, is also like they actually attacked the communication that's worth and injured so many people. and as a preparation tool for a larger military operation, that's a possibility. also, we cannot discount that. so it's uh, but they will definitely, i do not see how there is no escalation after today. jamal, who isn't political commentator and ryder, thank you very much for your time. as our thank you. and samuel romani is an

associate fellow at royal united services institute. you are joining us now from london. i wanted your view on what just happened, the implications of it as well. definitely. i think it's a step towards eventually broader escalation between israel that has black. we've already seen other reports that yeah, it always helps with high level security consultations with is that leading security forces? he's really the media was describing those meetings as being very dramatic and also seemed to be back channels developing visual data stage about the possibility of an escalation. and it's also important to places into the broader regional context. last week there was a major attack by these relays on syria, the results and 18 dash. and the who explained to fire hypersonic miss out is your law so. so this way, she's not going on beyond living on and to all the details of the acts of resistance at once. i'm kind of hearing 2 things,

which i and i'm not sure of those things converged. it seems to me they're going in separate directions. one is israel was flexing, israel was showing that it can damage, has blah, and it was terrorizing, has blown members and more widely people in lebanon, which has been one take that i've heard. right? so this is messaging this as simple as, in addition to the very real injuries that we're seeing. and the other is, this could be a precursor to an escalation, a very real. and, you know, increase in the military activity against has pulled off. what seems more likely to you messaging or ramping up towards war as well. up until now it's been pretty much an exercise insurance. it's the one of the b, b as against the say that is or wants to show that he didn't like very severe damage. john has to go out on the hudy's on syria, on a rod, on basically all the other actors who might be aligned is yours and supporting him

us. but the, i don't think that i either has blog or is real up until now. i really wanted a situation where the major 2 front war developing, but i think that these rallies are now sensitive. this might be a struggle opportunity to decapitate has both capabilities as a warrant guides, uh, eventually winds down. and they might be taking a step towards the broader escalation. so the jury is still out of what they really want. but i think that the prospect of israel wants escalation is higher now that it was earlier. but if israel wanted a full blown war against his blah, they had every opportunity slash excuse to do it over the last, almost a year, right? with his beloved, regularly launching a drones missiles and rockets across the border into israel. oh, yeah, definitely. i mean, they certainly have a lot of concerns about the handful of presence encounters across the board and strikes and the padded with basically these village made a small cross border strikes as big as bar across the border shack. and it would basically, yeah, jack. yeah. but yeah,

these really draw so. ringback involved at that point in time in the get these finally there's asians, i think that they were hoping for the release of financially more oxygen. but i don't seems as if the prospect for an immediate cease fire and gas as need to be winning and we're lost his attorney. i've got it. that seems to be the cupboard. so now i think that israel feels like it's eradicated. a lot of them, as google isn't gas inside the, there's a job, but it's been a lot of it. and now it might want to do something more serious while they're still uncertainty about who's going to be taking power. and the last 4 of us detracted with the election cycle that may be may see a window of opportunity to take further action. okay, and if i to, if i take it the other way i examine the other hypothesis that this is the parents . i say this because that's pretty much the 1st where you mentioned the idea of the parents is basically for his real to send the message, hey, we can strike you in ways that you do not expect and in ways that you cannot defend yourself against. so don't take this any further help

a lot. that's the idea. this is, i can also certainly be an idea of those here. i mean, obviously attacking the behaviors is really quite significant. but i think that ms rela, even the, as early as last week, was warning against the use of mobile homes was probably fairly confident that the communication system that they had in time would not really be easily affected by the insurance. but now these are ways of showing that they can block the staging networks. they get block lithium batteries or within them, and it's like a lot of damaged, you know, just the civilians and even somebody of high profile as you writing about through the webinar. so i think that the israelis are also potentially sending a message a and says, love with that. and enjoying as or this could be a shaping operation by one of the 1st easy you would do if your wife has started a larger war. that we use of ways that you might have control systems. all the, the 100 something that occurs and can then with the war like when data was bomb in kosovo, for example, the drug survey and state media, certainly electro bridge and other things. larger operations. yeah. but in this case, given how much as was investing and some of these that several views of is it may

be trying to use this as a pre emptive fact. again, a samuel romani, associate fellow at the royal united services institute. thank you very much for your time. thank you very much. it has the law has just released a new statement, lane blame for the attack and living on it says, quote, we hold these really enemy, fully responsible for this criminal aggression which also affected civilians and led to a number of martyrs and entering a large number. and quote, on the shar, his elder 0 senior political analyst, my one year joining us from paris. so when we spoke a moment ago, you started by saying this is, this is a terror attack. it is because unlike a similar like say for example, the extra, the additional can go on and get to assess, finish targeted, assessing notion of the likes of how much the, the,

how much i was using the regular study phone and then did for nathan get as he answered a call that's i've talked to the destination specific against one have mostly been in a specific place after he came on the phone. but when children start to die, when family members start to dine, when bought, when the phone started or it's funding in the marketplace and other places, we're now talking about the close to already some pretty 1000 casualties, meet thousands of casualties. this is an indiscriminate cyber attack, a violent cyber attack against the nice it is indiscriminate because it does not know. as far as we know, that's far, it wouldn't know exactly how does that phone or where exactly is that form? is it mixed our child? is it next to an a spouse?

is it next to a passive by and phone support? so there is a very to the house of the cyber attack is an indiscriminate nation. and we, as i said, we're only talking about thousands of people. if you are to live in, you are then a rise. but what just happened today? we are these talking about the shop. and now here's the money is going to end or do i use or do not use my cellphone? what's, what's going to happen next? and clearly this is the small business on the part of this rate is by, you know, 10, it gives you the one and in the political system, not to say anything. you know, that can stand a big deal with the that you know, after the ministry of that cetera, that is meant to impact uh, multiply the effect of the 3rd attack. definitely, what do you hate each and every one that has the agent, that communication device,

not only that, it wasn't expected that there was actually no trace of anything that this was going to happen. how would happen when it happens? the mass is in fact or big in almost instantly, not knowing who's exactly and not knowing what's going to happen next. if it's going to happen against i guess i don't know. cell phones, computers, i pads. so got that set a realistic nature of this is the admin to the mysteries which mug, you know, none of the collaboration about that is behind it, of course, fulfill also of accountability and so support own asked to dr. terroristic nature of it. but it also adds to the collateral image of it because whenever love it or whatever it has by law wakes up from this an attack, right, then this is a terribly.