means and where it might be taking us. how are you looking at this right now? yeah, we got so it means that 4 weeks or 4 months, really. because as you can use organization, you have to respond immediately. the industry as well, but really to digest into, to transform those early perceptions into deeper and more meaningful conceptions of security of war over escalation of cyber attacks that are and so on, so forth. i think it's going to take us much longer to be able to really digest and conceptualize all of it. but again, from a very, fairly, an initial, the reaction analysis of what you're seeing is that is that is escalating the water again, step on on in a more qualitative as well as quantitative ways. it's already been making

threats and ultimatums, and i think it's sort of the acting on them. it's kind of a, it's kind of a playing mysterious and ambiguous about being behind this attack. although every, you know, everyone knows that it is behind the back button, research to be monk about it. uh, you know, saying let's, let's not say to say anything to anyone about what we just done was celebrating probably what they're doing and, and i don't understand that. and what's that in a vacation back i, i would suggest that should not be finding at all. i suggest what, what we just saw happening and number 9 is, is scandalous. is tragic. it's, uh, it's, it's, it's a, it's a master attack. that's what eventually come back and bite is right. just always been the case every time. is there any uh, fixed on action, but thinks it's new to celebrate? it's a, it's qualitative edge. it's military strict reality. it's intelligence capacity.

it's capacity to instill and see it. it's an enemy's and then that it's enemies continue to rebound back and had positive. i mean, what was the lesson of october 7? if there's any lesson to be learned? what's the lesson from this war? this stuff has been long term arising. these ranges to move tens of thousands of israeli south for the 1st time. and it seems to me is really and vision of 11 on and 19 it's a to so i think the, the smugness of this little goddess and stay in the east me the 3 and living among 400 plus 1000000 out ups and $1500000.00 muslims and generating extra in early hate as andrew ball gym, and discussed by those hundreds of millions of people around it. do you think that we need, we're been good safety security. i'm frustrated you to is read on the long run. your think the 10s of thousands of relatives and association of book 3000 people

that will just inject today all going to port out with last 4 is read using the 100000 plus casualties in gaza. and the thing is, and, and, and associates and their loved ones and so, and so forth. they just kind of turn the page, the next thing, this idea that you can use your, you have your ministers to put the oddity a news, the, the, the, the model be. the humane aspect of this existence, industry engine, i think, is just incredibly think probably a historical and short side more. when you said that in your view, israel was escalating the war, given the size of the attack, the nature of the attack, etc, would escalate the war to achieve what this is the security of course, right? the problem is that when is that says our security in the 1st and foremost and

every every, you know, dumb and dumber a medicine for your vehicle, official that repeated after, don't even understand what security to me in hebrew the quite a bit the whole. right. but the heart has a whole other meaning to what we understand security is in the, in the, in the early description of the founder of is there a mr. thing going on is that everything is the settlement is hebrew. it's submitted . so really it's, the expansion of balloons is stick them over the land. is the demographic expansion . it's the expansion of the palestinians. i'm song, so for security that could mean so many things, including graces and against the arabs, including expansion. i do that including the some, the 0 sum game with the palestinian interest and the art ups and so on, so forth. just the security is not in any way conventional understanding was secure . and yes, yes, that is what give you. we need to secure our border and we need to secure our

population to the north of a, in the gallery, and so on, so forth. but that's humbug, that's an action of b s, because we know that is there, it has invaded love and on it continue talk you part of they've been on for years are allowing for the creation of husband. well, it's, it's occupation of the west bank and gaza allowed for the creation of mazda. now it's involved in war. why it's off to fight and getting out genocide, but it's able to do that and it's able to extend the more, i guess, i don't know that because it's actually with infinity. because there are those powerful leaders in fall from west and countries in the united states, i knew that continue to stand behind is right. why it carries it's genocide. why his cat is it's cyber violent mass that are attacks against the news on elsewhere. what is the good, is this genocide or what's the latest? just the last day, one of them was thinking about this or 2 of teaching holocaust in the schools.

great. we need all the teach the hard questions as to what kind of a timing is that just while they're coming up, is there a general size in palestine for each i've actually never known for each occupation for it. so hard to choose the timing, to talk about the holocaust this. this is a problem here is the continued infinity when western leaders continue to provide the support and donate the back the other way as you get is it's crimes in the middle east. oh, sure. 0 senior political analyst, my one, the shower. thank you very much. the the watching else 0 reminder of our headlines this hour there has been coordinated attacks across 1199. people have been killed and nearly 3000 injured after hundreds of personal communication devices exploded. symbol tenuously is believed most of

the pagers were being carried by members of his below. the group has called it one of the biggest security breaches and civil support as well on his plane. israel for that of an emergency departments have been inundated with injury to his beloved members and with civilians. the health industry has appealed to all citizens who own pages to dispose of them. houses here as christian salumi is that the un in new york christian, we thought we were going to be talking about something very, very different indeed because the un general assembly is discussing a draft resolution that concerns israel and palestine. but we're going to have to leave that to the side for now. what's the u. n saying about this? as well as spokesperson for the united nations said that they are very concerned, especially in the context of the volatility of the regions to find is dreka speaks for the secretary general antonio gutierrez,

he condemned and deplored the civilian casualties that resulted from this attack, which is killed 8 people and injured more than 2700. to be clear, the united nations really doesn't know any more than they're seeing on news outlets like al jazeera at this stage. they stay there gathering more information. but they can't underscore enough according to do. sorry. the risk that this poses to the region, the risk of escalation throughout the middle east. and of course, we should point out that the united nations is right in the middle of all that, with the unit fil a peacekeeping force, with more than $10000.00 peacekeepers station on the border between israel and lebanon, according to the united nations. this is why the secretary general's message has consistently been one of de escalation, bringing the parties together for talks, as opposed to fighting. and that's a message, frankly,

that we've heard echoed by many top you want officials and many member states here at the united nations. but right now, mostly they're monitoring the situation for updates and, and watching with concern, hoping that it doesn't spill over throughout the region. chris, and thanks for that. but before i let you go, then can, can you brief us on what we really felt we'd be spending a lot of time on this afternoon, which is the main events of the day. if you, in general assembly, they've got as draft resolution that a number of speakers are discussing. you have the poor tell us what that's about are right, this is the 1st time the palestinians have been able to introduce a resolution on their own. it calls for an end to the is really occupation of the palestinian territories. and that's, that's a hard deadline of 12 months for that to happen for israel to withdraw its troops for settlers to leave and for palestine to take control of its territory. as

was the when needed before 1967, and this is all based on a, on a ruling by the international court of justice and advisory opinion, they issued back in july and the palestinians are submitting this as the next step . they say that this will put more pressure on israel, it will show they hope if they get enough votes, that the world is on their side, that they should be recognized as an independent state. and uh that israel basically has no right to be in gaza and the west bank anymore. so this is a very historic moment because as i mentioned the 1st time, palestine has been able to submit a resolution on its own. and that's because in july, the general assembly voted to recognize palestine as a member state before this, they would need co sponsors to submit a draft. now they can do it on their own, and it's the general assembly. so it's not legally binding under international law,

but again, it really shows what the world is thinking. and they're hoping that they get a lot of support from other member states to send a very strong message. kristen salumi reporting there from the united nations where we have several balls up in there at this present moment. thank you very much for your report and kristen. now i want to go back to the attacks that we continue to cover the attacks that took place and 11 on a few hours ago that are being blamed by has blown israel, a large coordinated, single, tenuous attack that has injured nearly 3000 people. people's pagers exploded and this they are believed to be mostly members of hezbollah, who had those pagers now homes at tar is a defense and intelligence researcher. he told elsie or how to tack on the pages might have worked a tax one of these devices which is basically a phone without the without the microphone and without the without speak up and

without all the fancies defense and get just on it of these radius the know what numbers that the targeted and for that they need to overwhelm the computing of the microprocessor and all that to overheat the demetrius. but here comes a really a program i think of which is how with the, the, the, the come, good data over the computer goes the process a how that bypass the safety features and interfaces. because usually when the one the is mass computing happening, that leads to the overwhelming of the batteries, the, the safety features to shut down the device and not lead it takes to exposure these on. they seem that trees. and they are well known to, to uh, to, to explode. and the overwhelming is in a way to know that you rewrite the computing power off of the micro processor and the microprocessor. and instead of doing 3 or 4 some codes or, or most,

but for a minute as well, do, hundreds of thousands, i could be millions that lead to explosion, but the exposure will not happen if the safety features on place and if the safety features and the the, the facility reset or compromise, that would lead the device to, to explode. and this is very important. i don't understand which supply chain comes in, question. hope provided the devices where the devices being inspected. when these inspect the device is being distributed without, without going through further inspection through. so as i mentioned, were watching monitoring multiple things at the moment we were discussing with alpha 0 as christine salumi, the draft resolution that's being discussed. and ultimately that will be voted on at the un mission the united nations general assembly. so they've been discussing israel's illegal occupation of policy and territories policy and in baset are to be un riyadh mentor has told delegates that the people of palestine deserve to live

peacefully in their ancestral homeland. mister president, the palestinians want to live not satisfied. they want to be safe in their homes. they want their children to go to school without fear. they want to be free and reality as they are in spirit. free to live, to come and go free to determine their own fate. subject only to god and to no other they want to be to be palestinians to be themselves. just be neither heroes, nor victims. just human beings. israel's ambassador to the un, danny dental and says the assembly should be focusing on the homeless attack and

israel last year. so the 7, these assembly as past due resolution going to be smarter yet that i'd love being one world about come us and barely a world about the hostages. those who contribute to these focus, not simply based on those. you all participants enable, there's collaborators and we both you cast students to both of these focus fields of violence and in board. and those are reject these as this empty show you most just then you sort through the victims of october of 7 ending. so to the hostages, it isn't installed to the various probably companies, institution. and as we watch the attacks and how they unfolded in lebanon as we watched the discussions that are taking place at the united nations. we're also seeing what's happening on the ground inside the gaza. strip were nearly 80 people . a field trapped under the rubble of residential homes bombed by is really forces

in central gaza. the attack targeted homes and elbow res refugee camp in the early hours of tuesday morning. several people are dead. that number is expected to rise . multi story homes have been completely destroyed in the attack. rescuers have little to no equipment to dig survivors and bodies out of the rubber shifting an entire family with an isolated completely. none of them survived. the father, mother and their children were all slaughtered in this era strike. this is israel's tyranny. israel's ongoing war crimes. we say nothing but what pleases all might have gone to him. we shall ultimately return it as some children were killed in their sleep. look how innocent the child is. oh god, your mercy, god, it was a 0 startup was zoom. it has the latest from darrow bella and central gaza. there has been a remarkable intensification of strikes on alternative reboot,

bought money in multiple areas in district. in the course of the past couple of hours moved for thing late is in the north of district were main neighborhoods in the cell. bryan does like to and neighborhood have been on the road in places where they had talked to a number of casualties have been recruited and they were transferred to the practice hospital to get medical treatment. but the main developing story east of the range refuge account. busy for residential houses have been completely flat since we're talking about i'm just a mated 80 palestinians are stuck under the deputies of these destroyed areas where the civil defense, what gets managed to recover 8 palestinians who were fine too. but there's 2 doses on the beast. remnants of these destructive buildings, the happenings, 1st thing that be they are facing a remarkable challenge in terms of accessing the place. again, especially that is where the army has targeted a number of emergency. what? cuz as to where he think to that place in order to risk you do some are still under the rustle of these houses. and apparently confrontations are still ongoing in the

southern parts of gauze, in particular, in a rough life district, whether it's really military has stated that there was a serious military security incident in a rough off at work from it says very so we just have been critically wounded and the ongoing confrontations that we the is valley occupational cruises on the palestinian concourse in the city of russell terika best then i'll just get ready by kinda sign in in the occupied westbank. no. a palestinian woman says she had a miscarriage when armed is really settlers attacked her neighborhood early on sunday. she says it happened while she was trying to protect her 2 little boys. offices here is new to abraham. has this exclusive story from april, a. 2 this noise was about to get even louder. the job that he's comedy had been expecting a 3rd child. but it was known to be armed is where the suckers attacked this head,

burned neighborhood in the occupied west bank. before dawn on sunday. it's all who doesn't want to appear on camera, out of fear of retaliation, was forced to flee. she spoke exclusively to enter 0 about her loss. that when i couldn't leave my 2 boys behind to carry them while i was fleeing, i started beating. my sister in law is old and can't on her daughter has hearing difficulties. so she didn't understand what was happening to him. if at all it says she was 8 weeks pregnant when she felt a sharp pain in her abdomen. she knew she had lost the baby. like it, the only medical checks were good. d, i started getting cramps 10 minutes after the attack. i couldn't 10 the, the senior n n 's. i see. the gunfire was so intense. i've never heard. it's so close. at each job video, watch the attack from her window. when she or something, she says she pulls out her phone to record. how do you on the east were cutting the

settlers storm to building nearby, to protect them? the army prevented any crowds from gathering, but when they did so, they blocked the palestinians from burying a man at the cemetery. at each says, strength is a constant requirement. there is little rooms here for fear most of us she continues pull me even when is where the forces open fire. about 800 is really settlers live in the heart of hover and city in the occupied the west bank. but the number is growing that are building more legal units and seizing palestinian homes all under the protection of these read the army. the point is 35000 palestinians here. even basic necessities are hard to get. since the war started, residents have been telling us that they have a curfew every night after 10 pm till 9 am the next day. and on saturdays and

fridays, no one is allowed to move. only use way these are permitted to drive here. is it all? it says i have neighbors could not come to her rescue. thousands of israeli soldiers guard the suckers here. it had a sort of thing they would arrest anyone trying to help with beardy, a moment to more to the fear keeps us at all on edge pushing her to the brink of collapse. need that but he does eat a hebron pulse and stay with us. the news continues on elsie's 0 after this the, as the world economy, those struck those with a strong result. indonesia is where such resolve about the right place for your business to get off the ground of grace. otherwise,

with the strategic downstream industry on the clothes. in your better tomorrow the us and we are coming right back to follow this live event, a press conference being held at the us state department with the spokes person. master miller. let's listen to here which is very difficult to get a diplomatic resolution in north absent resolution to the conflict and gaza absent a ceasefire and gaza, which is why we continue to push for that cease fire because we think it will help make it much easier to reach a resolution, so how do you see this incidents impact?

the dogs as the fire talks that i think it's, i think it's 0 is that? look, this is an incident that just occurred in the past few hours. we're continuing to gather information about it. i wouldn't want to me, i wouldn't speculate or make any predictions of okay, what might happen a couple of other couple of thing more as well that has accused israel as sort of launching this attack. you said you're gathering information, is there anything in that information that that would lead you to sort of reject that accusation? i just don't want to offer any type of assessment on this incident. one way or the other at this point. are you trying to make an assessment the like in your gathering information? are you going to be able to offer and assessment tomorrow or the next day, or is the united states going to be completely like this has nothing to do with me? i'm not that we are continuing to gather information. uh and when we have something to say about it, we'll certainly say well enough to know before then. okay, one final thing, regardless of it is this incident, although it's

a little bit hard to sort of leave that aside right now. but over the past couple of days we have heard prime minister netanyahu especially talked about the how and sustainable it is and more in the border and last night the cabinet basically said no tree action would be needed for to allow thousands of residents to go back to their home, save it, practically expanded the objectives of the war. so is the, is, does the united states, the military action from israel, more likely in light of that? so we agree that is unsustainable for tens of thousands of is really families to be displaced from their homes. just as it is an unsustainable for tens of thousands of lebanese families to be displaced from their homes. all of them need to be able to return home. so then you take, you go to the question of what's the best way to achieve, then being able to return to your, their home. so it is our judgments that a diplomatic solution is the best way to to get them back to their homes. because

if you look at what a military conflict would entail, it's hard to see how that gets. so those families on either side of their board or back to their homes quickly. um, so that's why we continue to push on both sides. we continue push for diplomatic, for diplomatic resolution as conference for the information. how are you gathering that information? do you expect to have an independent us assessment to follow numerous questions? so i don't want to prejudge what will say in the days to come, i can tell you what we're doing right now is gathering information through all of the ways in which we usually gather information. and have you been in touch with any 11 users? really, officials, i can't read out every contact that we've had in the last couple of hours. so let me in a couple hours since this incident happened. but of course we're gathering information through diplomatic channels as well as other channels about this. since there are parts of the running and bastard 11 on was also injured in this attack incident, are you concerned about around taking advantage of this? so we've seen over $400.00 again, any,

any indications that they personally apologies for interrupting no question. i've seen the reports, i don't want to speak to what the implications might be before a report is confirmed, but certainly as is always the case, we would urge iran not to take advantage of any incident. any instability to try to add further instability into further increase tensions in the region that has been our message to around since october 7th and um you do offer line on it but um, just to make sure its airtight so the us was in no way involved in terms of supporting this operation and offering intelligence in no way was the us correct. involved. okay. and no part of the us cover. i understand your street only for this department, but such disclaimers have been offered from the state before you are not given a heads up. we were not aware of this as the sensitive no. okay, um to use firefox is the expectation still that are renewed version proposal is expected to arrive this week? so i have put a time table on it. i think i was asked about this

a number of times yesterday. i said, i'm not going to put a time table on when we might put forward a further proposal. we are engaged with. uh, we continue to be engaged with uh, the other 2 mediators in uh, in the complex of egypt and kind of the secretary is on his way to egypt right now . meeting with objection, officials about a number of things, but squarely on the agenda is how we get a proposal that we think would secure agreement from both parties. i don't want to spend a time table on when we put that proposal forward because ultimately we want a proposal that's going to get to yes. and it's very important that we as you for the secretary say stop to haggling back and forth. and so we went to, when we presented proposal, we want to know it's going to get to us. and that's the work that we're doing with our egyptian and contorted partners this week. or the kind of read about because i understand the secretaries and cairo's typically speaking on the screen topics with egypt. sions. but are the countries are and is really, is going to be looked in part of these discussions. we are so the, the secretaries and use of having bilateral meetings with each other,

but we continue to discuss on a daily basis. this process with the guitar is as well as in a different format with these relatives realize are obviously are not a mediator. so we don't have the same types of discussions with them as we do with egypt and cutter. but we do continue to have discussions about this with all those parties have one more on your credit for later. yeah. give us a good a come to side. i know that your, you don't want to comment on what you mean by sitting now, the sugars, we don't know the academics figures of what happened in that one on some i've talking about the thousands for thousands, we have civilians and that also the 8 on an investment dude, all has tons of numbers of fundamental. that sounds as well a lot. do you mean the question? do you think that this is it just have a target for any party to do that? whether it is there are someone else because that are his beloved targets in this if it's at that or incidence,

or whatever you want to call it. so let me not comment with specific with respect to this specific incident and answering the question only because there are a lot of reports out that i know in many cases are not yet confirmed. and as you will know, sometimes in the early hours of reporting uh, the reporting you see in the early hours tends to be somewhat off the market supplement of additional facts as time goes on. so i will just say what we believe of legitimate targets and whether or not legitimate targets obviously we, we believe the civilians are knowledge targets for any type of operation and that no country should be targeting civilians. no country no organization should be targeting civilians. terrace members of a terrorist organization are legitimate targets for countries to launch operations against those of the principles that we hold. you have just been listening to the spokes person of the us department of state. that's matthew miller. there, he's taking a questions as he does on a near daily basis from the press. and of course, given the wide scale attacks that just occurred in level, not a few hours ago, he was getting a lot of questions on that. what it might mean,

what the us new. so we're going to be discussing that with our guest mohammed who must be, who has joined us in the studio. so mom and we didn't all right, i beg your pardon. we will come to mom and in a moment's 1st. so let's recap. 9 people have been killed and nearly 3000 injured after hundreds of personal communication devices exploded. single tenuously across 11 non is believe. most of the pages were being carried by members. it has the law, it's flaming israel for the attack. accel assignment which has this device is meant for communication or turned into bombs, exploding at the hands of hundreds of people. many cuz the members it's an 8 page devices that we've been using. all of them are exploding in the guys report suggests the explosions were caused by high technology targeting.