did not page or is as we saw in tuesday's attack, emergency services have been responding and at least 3 cities across the country. as well as leadership says that the group is facing, quote, a new phase, and that again, another quote punishment is certainly coming. but our correspondence are covering this across the region of the hash symbol, whom you've just heard is and 711 on entire specifically, honda, so hoot in is, is in amman, jordan 1st. so let's go to him. are on khan, who is outside the american hospital in the lebanese capital, bear with him on it. this is all very new. we are trying to piece together a comprehensive picture of what exactly happened. so when did you become aware of new explosions, and where did they occur as well. we started hearing about the explosions a bounce, an hour ago we were hearing that was that was one explosion in down here in the southern suburbs of february, we subsequently managed to confirm that. and then we heard

a lot of islands activity in where i am now. i'm in the hammer, this occasion, the cold, the hospital area of the street hospitals in close proximity to hey, we had a lot of sirens ambulance our ins, uh, kind of a lot of i'm going to talk to the teacher in the street. we also heard that the g mcafee, the prime minister of the oven on, was due to come to this hospital. one of the senses of the hospitals been treating people. he was actually on his way. and then we'll now hearing, he's cancelled his visit because he wants the hospitals to concentrate on the victims that may well arrive here. now just out of shots uh in the last, oh so medical stuff has come out onto the streets. they wearing protective clothing ready to treat people so it looks like they will be people coming to this hospital . so that's what we know so far. but we are hearing is that have been

several explosions in the root itself. we don't know what areas they are in, but certainly it's that have been a more explosions of those walkie talkies. and that's what we're hearing these on now to piece that have been a targeted the will be, they will be coming to a post with those like the one behind everyone to situate us. because the footage that we're watching right now, this in the center of our screens is of this explosion that occurred at a funeral in ca, that's in a southern suburb of the roots. i understand that is a predominantly shiite suburb. what can you tell us about the area? and is there anything that we learned from the fact that it happened there? a well h has bullet members with being very today, those funerals with due to take place at 5 pm local time. so about an hour ago,

and that's when we heard about that explosion in kentucky as well. so that takes place and taking place in the funerals of fuels. i have to say still did take place and all on going live pictures that we're seeing that. so that hasn't disrupted the females per se, but there will be a lot of anger ero, which is what his bullet had said. it's what the lebanese government has said is behind the attacks have managed to do it again 24 hours later. now we're also expecting in 24 hours to hear from a house on those. all of the leader of his delays already said he's going to be talking about the page attacks. he's now going to have to talk about the route you took the attack as though people have cooling it. he's also going to have to talk about what he's going to do next. his below is going to be under a lot of pressure here to try and react to this react to this very quickly is

bullet 1st part is initial statement said that it was installed at our asses still with the palestinians in the gaza strip and they would promise retribution for these attacks. so there's now a political angle to whole of this as well. it's not just the medical emergency, if it's taking place as bullet is a political group, and it is part of lebanese society 11. he's looking at his full to see what they're going to do next, but let's talk about the hospitals. find out about that as far as the by the health minister gave a press conference just a few hours ago. you run through the numbers that were screwed there. he said that between 27522008 100 people have been injured those inches, those injured numbers all going to go up. as of the, as a result of this attack, he said 300 people were still in critical condition. many of them,

well in intensive care, you also talked about a $500.00 hospitals will be so involved across the country. and he said, a $1084.00 ambulances, the whole site involved. he said that this put tremendous pressure on the emergency services. he said it was a socially and effort from the emergency services. he also said that his role is not interested in a diplomatic solution and 11 on the emergency services because he's the helping us that needs to be prepared for a long time. and that's his was he said we have enough emergency services, supplies and stuff the last 3 months, but we need a lot loading and we're on thank you very much for that reporting both on what happened in the root and then the hospital, the situation at the hospital is here at the hospital outside the or near the american university of a root,

which of course is still treating hundreds upon hundreds of patients from yesterday's attack. almost 3000 people were injured, 9 were killed. we're going to go now to ali hush him, whose entire in southern 11 on you have, you can fill out this picture for us. i'm curious to know what you've been able to confirm on your end. it was what we can confirm is that there was some of those us that took place simultaneously. just like just today as if it's the 2nd wave of the feature attack. what this done. it was mostly walkie talkies or rages. but now we're hearing also that some sort of devices also exploded some batteries in cause exploded. so it's, it's a bit ambiguous. the picture is not clear. yes. and if we are able to understand what is happening today, probably would be able to understand what happened yesterday because what's being

said said yesterday about the page of the fact is that explosives what are planted inside the pages. but if today things are happening, i mean, in the battery, this is what i understood from some forces. the battery is the new batteries. that's all inside the walkie talkies and batteries inside different devices. so probably that i'm not the 2nd because the same, but probably that's something different to you. and it could be a kind of a cyber attack. it could be a kind of a cyber attack that's causing all these devices to explode. similar things here where we are in the city of china. i was in a few nervous just couple of cases behind. we wouldn't have been there and then we had an explosion. first of what we thought this sonic booms and this is very normal here. and this, this area in southern level, which is like 20 can read this from the border. well,

later on we started hearing that there's a car that exploded just behind us. we saw the car was a blaze. well, it was amazing the way that it was not fog. if it was a joy, it was kind of something exploded inside the car. so it's included. it is the best thing where we are now the explosion was that the phone? yeah. from within another another, the is always an apartment, something inside the apartment exploded um then we started getting these messages about explosions and uh, southern solve the people taking part in the funeral inside. and now what can we can say there are some solid information coming from the lebanese ministry of health. that one person was to at least $100.00, the enjoy these, all the initial reports. now the official reports that at least one person will skills and around $100.00 of these $100.00 inches. but it's still the beginning

of, you know, getting to know what's happening. now. we might, yeah, i bought more numbers yesterday. i remember when this started, us selling the house and we started hearing about tens of people that people at 30400 people and then it ended with, you know, the number today is like around 3000 people in judge 9 or 10 people killed on several, maybe in the situation. so what's all folding today? can be disconnected or on links to what's happened yesterday. this is connected, this is link what, what's yes, to what happened yesterday may be was kind of limited to the page us today, the reports that it's not only the walkie talkies but also all those kinds of devices. some even suggesting laptops are exploding. but you know, we need to, we need to wiley and see, and just maybe a find those understanding from the, from the authorities. yeah. yeah. as you speak, we are looking at the picture of

a walkie talkie that exploded. so that's certainly one of the devices today that was weaponized. how exactly that it could take place. we don't exactly know, we'll get answers, i assume, but not today and not immediately. i mean, do you know, were you able to make out who was targeted? you told us that you saw a car that exploded. you told us there was an explosion in an apartment. no. yesterday the pages that all exploded belong to members of has the law. we saw the funerals, but his beloved members were targeted today and southern be root. or are you seeing the same thing where you are in your part of the country around tires? is this all tied to his beloved members? it was sort of a to take things into context, does a big confrontation between his role and says law. so mainly the thought get of this. that's ok. here's why. this is something that we can add,

booked emphasize the target of this attack. this has a lot, but although uh, they're not people around physical. uh, they're not people that could be in a call with the law person or in a funeral. decide that as well. i person. oh, probably using a call or a laptop or a phone that was with someone for his what i mean. so the fact is that it's directed to watch his will lot, but people who are not physical law. so what impact they? but this don't aside from the impact the direct impact, which is just part of this security, well, what they call the gray zone bottles that's already taking place in the middle offer a wide range confrontation in the region that's been that's been raging for a yeah. now, there's also an impact on the people and then the, the feeling of on certain people aren't able to understand or consume what's happening with that they are in the middle of the war or in the

middle of a transition period. in the school, everyone is trying to trying to find that way towards the day after. and this is the big question, is this, does this have a relation with the southern board that just where we are standing here, particularly just for what i'm standing? does this have relation with an escalation that is what is the bedding on the southern border? and we've been seeing all these discussions in his role with respect to the northern front ad putting we're bringing back the residence off. northern is went back home as a main objective and as well as wanting to cause us. so this is one of the big question spots. this was seen, the conflict is just getting golf control day after day. and i remember me and you been on it for the past 12 months or 11 months. we've been saying that things are getting out of control. but the issue is that every day there's something new.

there's something that's no one really fault off. it's like on think of all things are happening early as you say. you've spent so much time reporting 11 on and a lot of reporting 11 on his reporting on his blog. so i'm wondering, even though this has just occurred everything we're seeing this afternoon, are you already hearing some of your sources? and if so, do you have an inkling of, you know, what inside has below what they're saying? how they're looking at this, how they're thinking about this, as well as there is something that's of use. now that is what lies in this situation of re same thing, the structure, what's happened this security office in the policy or in the organization, the viability, the uh, preventive. let me say uh, the preventive layer is that they, how are they failing? are they on data and is really leverage? are they being compromised?

these are big questions. what's in the, in an organization like physical law, that's a long gain, a multi layered organization with tens of thousands of members. this is not an easy task, because right now, if and then, but it says the law has a page or party walkie talkie and it's exploding in him that there is going to be big questions even within the organization. and now you know this, this, there is the combined uncontrolled commandment control and it's mainly the communication communication is something very, very, very instrumental in wars. if communication is home, then the whole war, the whole effort is home. and that's why i think has what law should be, and i think there are concerned that things are not good for them to model husband the fellow busy for the that the policies need to is going to address this. people know what is he going to say what he's going to wow, is he going to vote event?

i think the priority for has a lot, i know isn't going to be an event, is going to be to look into the fox and into the structure, into the organization and on the sun. where are the faults? because these all created these off phase. so that's really interesting, and i'm making a note of that that has blog leader has done this rela, is scheduled to speak tomorrow. of course, we'll be very interested in hearing how he handles this, how he frames all of this and what's happening on the ash and reporting from tire and southern that is on. thank you very much for all of that we're bringing and now home does so who to is with his life from the jordanian capital, amman, and always the same reminder we're reporting on israel from amman because the is really government has banned alpha 0 from reporting from within israel and his blog once again, blaming is real for everything that's happening there. not just a page or a tax and living on yesterday, but today the walkie talkie attacks, what are you hearing and what's being said inside israel is

full, according to reports within is really media exciting, anonymous officials, of course, who are speaking to several different reporters. they are saying that this was indeed israel, not just today, but also the page or a tax on tuesday. and the source is our quotes saying that the goal in the 2nd wave of attacks was to increase paranoia and fear among his boatloads, who essentially showed the lebanese armed group, the types of capabilities that israel has now before these sources had spoken. now today we heard from several different is really media outlets on tuesday that said that this looks like something that is the work of these really most of the, the external security agency. they have very, very intricate and sophisticated capabilities. both with weapons and technology, artificial intelligence, and all signs. they say we're pointing to that,

but of course when it comes to official is really reaction. there was not, there was nothing for me. is really government, nothing from these really military. and of course, no sort of statements from the extra no security agency who never comments on its activities abroad. but it's worth mentioning, the meetings that took place between is really security officials. last night the army chief of staff, these really defense minister jo walker launch, who said they are increasing the readiness. they have even moved several different units of these really military, from where they were stationed in gaza on the gauze border to the northern part of the country. and it comes after a meeting 2 days ago in which these really prime minister benjamin netanyahu added another goal to the war. previously, there were 3 goals all pertaining to israel's war on gaza. but this time it's different. there's a 4th bull that's added that relates to securing is res. northern borders, to returning those evacuated is released from those towns in settlements. so

according to is really officials. this is nothing in y'all, his way of signaling that he's changing his policy when it comes to dealing with his bola and when it comes to dealing with the situation on his roles. northern border offices here with honda. so who's in amman? jordan, thank you very much. for that, i mean, oregon is an analyst with the daily is really paper. i read through joining us in your life from televi. if you deal with military and security affairs. so we want your perspective on this. what do you think is happening yesterday and today? and 11, not let me start by saying that the, the policy that should be most i'm says read what has happened over the last 26 hours is and neither in b. ruth, nor in gaza about being to around if the radio. so looking at what happened here, then this, then the block happened on october the 7th. when israel was caught off guard by from us, he's not going to be repeated. but rather that these really intelligence and

technology can superiority may very well be also directed at your regular infrastructure. you're ready and targets. and at the flip, the switch is ro, without even a single plane taking off can cause a lot of palm to your run. so this is obviously less than that along with the assistant nation or be somebody nia inc, around which was. busy conducted me seriously, perhaps it in a similar fashion that should concern the uranium. no, i mean i started looking for a 2nd stop for a 2nd. i want to make sure our viewers are following your train of thought. if we've you yesterday, and today's a text and 11 on as a message, you're telling us the message is at least important and that they're on. and that messages today, the pages and walkie talkies of hezbollah members are being detonated by us tomorrow. it could be the walkie talkies of the range and revolutionary guard,

that's the message you're telling us is really sending, as that's a byproduct is rather would not have gone through such land just to send a signal to, to anyone. however, pass on the swallow head. mister allah, being a democratic leader, he should have resigned for 2 reasons. first, on october, the h. he stopped in the news. what were we this ro out of the blue? his ro did not provoke you to join. come us. secondly, because the peace part anaya, we cellphones, the all the, the, the entire communication system, the switch to the very devices which exploded yesterday and today, both of the pages and their walkie talkies and who knows what else, know if israel had done it yesterday, it really didn't have any choice but to go on today because otherwise, isabella will just probably methodically look into it and expose it

for, well, ok, one point that you mentioned there that has belong, started attacking israel out of the blue. and i know where you're coming from. and i know what you're saying, of course, his beloved and frame it that way. his bull, i would say we are attacking israel and solidarity with palestinians in gaza for being pounded by israel on a daily basis. so that's been their narrative that's have be. and how they framed it for the last year, and they have consistently said we will stop our cross border attacks when israel stops attacking gaza. i mean, i do think that that matters. you don't as well uh on october the 7th come back, started out of the blue. uh but let's not go into the entire history of the conflict. and if you are released as the hostages send, there can be hostage release prisoner release, and choose fire deal in the so yes,

the conflicting them all would have the stop to to show it is incumbent on all sides in gaza. uh, through the good offices stopped to be mediators to get a ceasefire done immediately, get all the hostages released so that the user, every way but missed the battle, will not expand into a full scale war back to the attacks. and they've been known of today and yesterday, what do you think is real strategy is here and there they are. they're very noticeable attacks. 3000 people are injured yesterday and certainly israel is showing that it has deep reach within the ranks of, of has the line within their communications networks, etc. but what's the over arching goal? and there were several directly below reports um, in the outlets. media outlets outside the fuse row that is available. it's faced with a dilemma. they use it or lose

a choice because the other pages were about to be exposed by his fellow and being chiron. investment would have gone down the drain. and the question was, should these red electrons ago, or should it use it? whether in context or out of context? no head is ro, really wanted to go in to war immediately following the page with that. it was that sense. combat troops ground troops in to let alone, because otherwise it makes little military sense just to do what it has done yesterday. and today, presumably it was a israel. what the usual military advice would be. a shock and all this strikes, such as are the one we have seen over the last, when people are all hours. and then immediately after the, when the enemy is out of joy, to send your troops into a breakthrough mode. israel has not done that is rarely still in

a defensive mode along the boulder. when you look at the attacks, the nature of the attacks and how they were carried out, what does that tell us about the level of israel's intelligence on his blogs specifically? does it mean that they've mapped out all of his blogs, you know, sensitive side sensitive fighters, methods, operations, etc. or is that overstating? and so israel, i should be neither arrow games, no complacent. we can't see not only october the 7th last year, but also several surprises, including earlier last year in march or so when, cuz by le managed to surprise israel and infiltrate to the very center of the as relevant estimate and explosive, which i happen to have the wounded in everett, but is rarely. but if you look at the entire picture, yes, israel has intelligence to be a repeat,

it has managed to penetrate and expose many, perhaps not oh, actually, most, most but many of cuz by let's take risks. and therefore, who's by law is on notice that the mess around like, needs the older to go ahead and strike as well. perhaps his role would be quick enough to preem. okay, i mean, you know what, just before i let you go, are you expecting more tax? because there was, yesterday, there was today. you know what's to say there isn't going to be something tomorrow or the day after. well, you know, the met metal here was troy and horses if he's a bite cell brought what brought the dumb on you to eat? so um a piece by law has some more in store or read. there are other devices and appliances which have been contaminated. we will see movie something more,

but because i had no idea day before yesterday that it will happen and that you had no idea yesterday that today will happen. it would be presumptuous from my father to try and predict anything. okay, and there are in military and security analyst with a daily is really newspaper high res. thank you so much for your time today. it's always good to talk to you in the spring and now on the shower houses. you're a senior political analyst are joining us in paris, more one. there are so many layers to this given what happened yesterday. and now today. how are you thinking about this? where, where do you want to start? but let's start with the so many contradictions i've been told and reported and analyzed that they are creating more confusion, then they are understanding of what's going on. and the contradiction is just because people are not picking what is happening seriously and for interpreting it and magical they've done testicle ways give you just 2 examples of what could be

just her just now. ready the attack yesterday and today i know it is, use it and lose it. because hezbollah discovered it somehow and then these days were forced to use that immediately. and they had no other choice do what i've tried to use just in the beginning of a why the war or this is meant to be sending messages. it can be both. i mean, it could be a message of some sort, but that's not intentional. they just have to use it. so which one is it? they have to use it. meaning after the with the, the communication devices that they basically donate to them. because it was just time and they couldn't lose the time. or they actually done this strategically with the specific timing in order to send messages to iran has spa and song. so one second, we keep talking about, you know, different words like fear and part of noise and so on, so forth,

especially used by these read is what's, in fact, what this was, this was an active master. that's what it was. and this seems to be a misunderstanding about that as well. i've heard 24 hours of reporting and analysis on various outlets in newspapers and tvs and so on, so forth. and i'm struck by how much the mass act yesterday or the starter is, is, is, uh, is. busy don't page especially and, and, and, and is there and various parts of the west, but also in various parts of the middle east. and why do i say that you see? because it says kind of confusing when you say it's ok you know, hit as well. but i have news for people who think anyone who is holding that page or is a legitimate target that amelia is riley's, then who are shopping today or going to the center or are in the parks with the

children also to just to make progress. because about a 1000000 disease, so these are in army as well as reserves was on duty. so are we saying that each and every is really man and woman today or 70 our meetings i deserve, or it all. and that's the beauty are legitimate, forgets is always were cited as well as a political party and the number of things, associations and medical. busy centers and solve what you think a number of combat in some bikers. so for 3000 or 5000 or how much doesn't matter, how many have been detonated and an indiscriminately right bombed the way that we use against thousands. the paper is an extra mass that are against the population and even even a compact a to is not in active duty,

but it's how get what it's trying to be is not. and it's just a target. in a more, it's an actual stutter, except that this is an act of mesh set or it's an active master using cyber warfare . this is a huge pressure to, for war in the region and beyond the likes of mr. on and would like to tell us that this is a great, you know, a fantastic height, big thing and these areas are very smug about it. and they're cutting the ring. is anybody else to, you know, shut the hell up and, and, you know, and, and come down and, and stuff part of this world i do because we, with our adverse technology, we're going to be thought of, you know, that's, that's how about october 2nd. but not by itself, prove that to be wrong is that it was owners, technology possibly reached october 7. and if i continue to be breached, is or i cannot win by technology alone cannot win by military alone.

so there's a lot of contradictions, a lot of misconceptions, waterfront, testicle, interpretation, what's going on, and that's are pending very difficult to accept or the address where you know, more one and you and i were on yesterday. we're on again today which we, you know, we hadn't expected. of course, we couldn't tell that something like this would happen. and one of the hard things is that what is happening. you don't know exactly what you're looking at as you work through this. and as you try to make sense of it, to explain it to us, i wonder, right now it's 1530 gmc with what we know, what are the questions you're asking yourself that you want an answer to, to understand what's going on? i'm sure. okay, so i'm certainly not asking you myself, it's just going to have is going to happen again because the answer is yes, it's going to happen again. i mean, seriously, we are in the state of war. we run a set of genocide. we are in the central floor water. no, but a furnace. it seems a symmetrical, more professional, right differently. this is messed up region. and in fact, we have been in

a state of systems, a system of violence for many decades now. even during 50 years of this process we had about what 4 or 5 was already. so facts i might have found out where the american imperial piece of them, at least for the past 30, some years since the end of the cold war. because with this many wars in the middle east, in the news rep, other site include the crime between is reading guys off. so what's next is more of the same to be honest. so even a good thing and up and yes and guys, these right used to be some, you know, some 27 ministers and parliamentarians i've just signed a letter to the problem is i thought, and then we'd have to take on one 3rd of nothing. got okay. we have to take all of luck on got that, which means one 3rd of all of kaiser pushed everyone out, take effect control of it, suckle it, and put his range of soldiers. and that's the end of that. what does that tell you that you think there's going to be an open wound, an open water, an open genocide, and that's yes, 11 on the west bank and perhaps you on and so you guys don't are going to be nuts.

and yes, these are, these are in a big way for i'm a general sense of what happened on and yes, what happened yesterday? it's not just a minor duluth, duluth, duluth to award. it's a is a major actor pet, her during war time against that have been used population against a has by laws uh, numbers a minute terms and comedies. and i'm so i'm so for, so i think what, what i'm seeing now is the state of snowboarding, in a big way, in a very dangerous way. no one, no one should be smug about it. and no one should take this slightly in terms of the addition of consultation, or even in terms of correct because this was a major blow to his problem. and hezbollah shouldn't be now, you know, or locked in a box. we would teach you are less than coming next and so on. so but because they continued to get the, you know, blow not for that, it just said the to the i probably tomorrow. but the same thing goes with these

ratings. they might be smug. today, a bunch of channels typing guys, uh, and about their uh, you know, taking the logical super reality versus i guess his bundle i live in on so and so forth. but they cannot survive in the middle east with high technology. they cannot even survive them, at least with the what the nuclear weapons. because this is not a way to survive and they would not be able to see what this is or what not have a future of them, at least. so i am, i am, i am. busy and i'm very angry at those people who underestimate or the, the, that it will questions and the implications of this continue water. and that agent just has to be separated. i know that have been issued and get involved. it's not their business, it's just addressing. oh no, i don't expect you to get involved with god. it's not their business. it's only always is drugs business. it's funny, always america's business. but the various people in that that inhibit the stereo force since millennium. they have no business with each other. right?

so is there, i can hit syria and then getting it wrong and then can hit the human and then can hit which then and then it comes up to you by jim. so i'm okay by other parts. of course. thanks. i'm none of the 400 a 1000000. how to should have i see and it doesn't work that way. it just doesn't work. yeah, well that's in response to for our view, as we saw or interview with a mere oran, is really journalist just before what you're saying is interest response to him. and that's, of course, a widely sure of you in israel. what he said that a mazda attacked israel unprovoked and, and you're telling us, hold on, there's a wider context and you can't just silo these questions away from one another. more one to shar music just just okay. just just to say that it's not really a hold and not anyone else in fact on and it was probably, you know, most sole, but then the rest, even though we disagree on almost everything, but still he's probably normal. but that is not talking about the whole mindset is right in the united states here in front of spend that you can elsewhere look up

all of the, he's in our own guests from various institutions in, in europe and the united states. the, you know, the export to the administered extra, the secure that to the cyber expert. you know, they keep telling you about this as one just to just tell me what to do that. no, no, no, this is not the, you know, mess instruction. that's ok to kill 3000, not kid to killing or injecting 3000 people. some of them last time. remember some of them who are just bystanders. some of them are just party members. right? no, it doesn't not ok to do that. i know what happened yesterday is an incredibly dangerous precedent, and it is an active mess that are, but it does not recognize this. we're not going to initial but also here in the west. and if they continue to do that. and when once it hits them in the future, they going to be requesting not recognizing this reckless at guided by 0, just as we have today, which is 0 senior political analyst moran,

the shower. thank you very much for your perspective today. we're gonna be speaking to more guest and then we'll talk to more one. again, let's recap for now. what's going on on this breaking news out of lebanon? there are reports of more communication devices exploding and several parts of the country following yesterday's attacks that have used pagers. one person has been killed, hundreds have been injured. what you're watching is a blast that occurred during the funerals of his beloved members in the root test below members who were killed in yesterday's attack. lebanese media or reporting explosions happen in phones in the laptops in handheld radios. know pagers as we saw in tuesday's attack solar energy systems have also reportedly exploded and caught fire. so there's a much wider array of devices that have been used than was previously known. emergency services have been responding in at least 3 cities across the country, as the laws. leadership says that the group is facing quote, a new phase, and the punishment is certainly coming. elijah many a's

a military and security analyst. you're joining us from brussels. thank you for your time again today. when, when you look at what, when you combine what you're seeing today with what we saw yesterday, what sense do you make of it? of the come on the points between yesterday today both separate dies operation where the is really needed to get told physically of the machines that are the top 2nd, the big both communication system which is vital for. ready any war or any way of communicating between troops? either they all state doctor or known state, hold on. they're not all calm systems are pulse per 2nd because we now know that solar panels appear to it exploded as well. so we have on the list of things that have exploded yesterday and today. yes, there are pagers today. it's reported there was an iphone at least the night,

one walkie talkies. all those are communications devices. but our journalist also spoke of an explosion within a car. no, i can't tell you if that's car battery or maybe a phone or a pager that was inside the car. i don't have that level of detail. but if we include solar panels on the list, it's not all comes devices as well. that was coming to the side point that your correspondent the south to happen then funny, i assume said it's a lot of confusion here today. this is what it was saying between yesterday and today. and the 3rd telling that these 3 days have created between yesterday and today due to confusion. so creating confusion, cutting communications, showing me the capability of infiltrating these machines or whatever machines, something for the that the iphone belonged to egypt to many years ago that exploded . others argue that different either made any information on social media. now that

all trumpeting and anything is activated. so these really, so the point is these, right? it doesn't have a dog is around in a supported by so many television services when they managed to get hold of machines like that. and how old is the time and the what the tenant for the machines 1st with exclusive because has the lies no mine glove is read. all the ease of use all traveling to the place or they are monitoring of the shipment and changing it so they have access in this country. this is how the facility that is offered is right. that is not offered to anyone else. but at the end of the day, these really had managed to create the confusion amongst what a lot and society and as your correspondence said, people don't know what to do. this is exactly the all the objective of a story and to reach today is to create such confusion and prepare perhaps for

a face tree or to say that this is what we can do. but they cannot do further. and then the time is important. it is not because his beloved realize that is something that, that the, the communication system or other uh gadgets, old machines all or other tools that are done. i'm thirdly, waiting for mold in 24 to 26 hours before triggering the 2nd explosion. in other machines is very significant because they did not do it immediately thinking what the 1st reaction has been. a lot would do is rhetorical and everything and has been the dangers go all the page. i asked them to leave it outside though trolling in the same place or keep a distance from me. because looking at another communication system that the icon, the 80 to v h s, had to try and see the that is not in every house on in every ment. both has below

is walking with it's, it's more selective in the organization. therefore, again, they are disturbing the communication system. i'm creating a cables and they have succeeded in doing that. so only have to wait and see what the all preparing next. because this is not the end of it. they know that side by side of the shuttle of the secretary general principle is coming out tomorrow all day trying to strip him off elements of a trying to say whether we can do even further. or given the impression that they have the upper hand. what this is about the ending battle, the are winners and was the date change come all the time. so one side can win about so, and then lose another benefit. and now we are in the middle of making about this. and so far we have seen in almost one year of school, he's right,

has failed to achieve the subject. it's particularly in god that is an open ad concentration. got nothing on things, all difference. they have great details, never that as we're dealing with the 5 year old, a group that is capable of taking things in hand again, elijah many a military and security analyst from brussels. thank you very much for joining us today. a thank you. david l. phillips as a former senior advisor at the state department during the clinton bush and obama administrations. now you're in a junk professor of security studies at georgetown university are joining us live from new york. thank you for your time. at this talk about the us aspect of this because is real, couldn't do everything it has done and is doing without us support in some way, shape or form. so what, how, how do you see the us is position in this. ready i don't think there are american fingerprints 100 operation. busy otherwise has made very clear

yesterday, and it wasn't for one about the pages should we believe that i'd say, pardon me, should we believe that is it possible for israel does is real carry out that kind of operation on that kind of scale without the us being having any awareness of it, i guess we shouldn't believe that this is not a u. s. foreign operation is clearly and is way over the intelligence operation of israel hasn't take any responsibility for i think the broader question has to do with what comes next. if this continues is not simply an effort to intimidate and put fear in the minds of hezbollah, commander sensible on them, it's more part of a broader operation. and that's my bigger fear is real,

is using this disrupt commandment. control. we heard from netanyahu yesterday, but the balance of power in southern lebanon is unsustainable. this is the 1st salvo in israel's effort to realign that balance of power and included involved a major military operation. so when you say it's really when you say broader alteration and when you say major military operation, what do you have in mind? because we also just spoke to and it's really journalist specialized in military affairs. and he says, look, if that's what israel was trying to do. if israel wanted to invade lebanon, for instance, you know, they would have carried out this attack of the very next day. they would have sent attacks and they did what does is real want to do? his real wants to send the statement that it's true with has about laws operations and it will launch reprisals against individual has the law members that are involved it seems to make clear that they sent that saying my bigger worries. what

comes next? is israel planning a broader operation? or is this just a one off or a couple of days of activity? is this a situation where the us, you expect the us, whether publicly or behind the scenes to get involved? this is a major regional war. i do expect for us to get involved. but all of us diplomatic efforts today have a warrant against the original war. it's diplomacy is working to prevent that. i think that's been changing when will of washington is it is real is will hi, seems not to be the case. how the u. s. response is real launch is a major operation, remains to be seen. but look, the reason i ask you the question is because you were a senior advisor under multiple us administrations, you're telling me that when you look at this, your main concern is this could be the prelude to a bigger military operation by is really level not so if you're thinking this is

a former advisor, there are probably current advisors in the current bite administration who are thinking stimulus things. so what are they telling by now they telling him pick up the phone, or have your teams pick up the phone? see what's going on and prevent any escalation or is there something else? they're clearly asking the us to say no to the yahoo and his reality officials that the broader regional war that we've been so concerned about is on the brand. the only way that gets preventive is, is real, stands down. i don't believe the israel asked permission from the united states for this operation. i think they launched it unilaterally. and as a result, the u. s. is responding slack fully without knowing israel's plans or intentions. you told us, you believe the us statements that they had no prior warning and no prior information or awareness or intelligence that this was going to go down. um,

how behind the scenes, how do american officials typically react to this kind of thing? and what do they say that there is really counterparts, and they're wanting them publicly not to escalate to avoid original conflict. but there are larger problems than that. the us is worried that it is regional conflict is going to ask away. it will involve is real and in multiple countries and multiple parties, in which case there's going to be a norm as pressure on the us to get involved. if that happens, then we have a region where we're not only with his route and its neighbors, but the us are being engaged as well. that's not in israel's interest or the us address. unless it's a liquor and covered by the it's where the government to try to control the u. s. government into supporting its bellicose actions. okay, you said entrapped,

the us government, this lines up with something i've heard from multiple guess really across the last few months, that one of you know whose goals might be to drag the us into a confrontation against hezbollah and ultimately against iran. is that, do you agree with that theory? yes, i think that's all there's a high likelihood of that being the case of israel wants to us on that side. it hasn't been able to engage to us as a partner. and now he will look to engage us against it's will in a broader regional concept, that's not something that the us wants to see. but typically, i mean, he's of a national election and that's exactly what i was gonna bring up. one assumes that there would be a 5 alarm fire ringing inside the bite and ministration. you're less than 60 days away from a presidential election. they're trying to help get our selected. you know,

if they feel that is there a israel is dragging them into a war, surely there would be some kind of strong response, maybe not publicly directed at israel. so strong risk response from binding. again, harris has been escaped. supports is really those right to defend itself if that extends to include the cyber attacks van, uh for the level of risk is much greater. now we're not talking about merely words . we're talking about an operation and which is real. this targeting has the law leaders. it has a lot of response and there's risk of a broader regional or the us will be dragged into it. and then the bottom administration and vice president terrorist are gonna have to defend the u. s.

response. it may in fact play favorably with the us. electra, nobody knows at this point. it david l. phillips, former senior advisor at the state department under multiple presidential under multiple presidents, clinton, bush and obama. thank you very much for your time today. thank you. let's recap on our breaking news out of lebanon. there are reports of more communication devices exploded in multiple parts of the country. one person has been killed and hundreds have been injured. one blast occurred during the funerals of hezbollah members in the capital. they roots, lebanese media all reporting that explosions happened in phones, laptops and handheld radios. so not the pagers, as we saw in yesterday's attack in solar energy systems have also reported. we exploded and caught fire. a 9 people i'm told has been killed in today's attack that this to has now been updated. emergency services have been responding and at least 3 cities across the country has ballasa. leadership says that the group is

facing quote, a new phase, and the punishment is certainly coming our correspondence or covering this across the region or the action is in $711.00 on the so hoops is in amman, jordan 1st, so let's go to him. on con, was outside the american hospital and be rude. why don't you tell us him on start with what's happening? where you are? the hospital, which i assume is still treating some of the hundreds upon hundreds of patients who are brought to about a 100 hospitals or so across the country yesterday as well before i on. so that just in the last few seconds we have from the health ministry, a update to death full of death that happened today. 9 dead, they say $300.00 injured. so that is 9 dead and $300.00 injured according to the health industry and the walkie talkie attacks. but now people who are cooling and i

am the american hospital let's the it is just that behind me some a 160 people came here overnight. some of them in critical condition base hospital is now on the high a, just out of shots where the ambulances come in into the emergency room. there are doctors and p p per household protection equipment on the waiting outside for those ambulances to arrive, where i am to, which is an hammer of it's often referred to as the hospital areas, 3 big hospitals in close proximity to we've been hearing a ambulance, are in a lot of ambulance activity. now we've also heard that that have been multiple explosions and by root we haven't been able to confirm. we have confirmed one in da here in the southern suburbs of a base roots jewelry. a funeral that was taken place. the funeral was taking place at the 8 table members that were killed in tuesdays attack those fuels taking place

just a couple of hours ago. they probably winding down now, but there was certainly in full force about an hour ago. so that's what we know right now. now just before a wrap up, this particular question, the g, but kathy, the lebanese permanent stuff, was due to visit this hospital. he was on his way when the news broke, and he canceled his visit to allow the hospital to get on with the emergency needs of the people that may well be arriving and runs send. we just take a brief moment out of the attacks and explaining what happened and where it happened to take to do a temperature check on the lebanese people. i mean there are famously resilience, they've been through civil war war strikes, targeted assassinations, a year of cross border shilling with israel. and famously, you know, life tends to go on and living on because people are so used to that being part of the background of their lives. but this,

this does feel different. how are people doing to the liberties escape? i mean, that's the only word that is relevant here. people are all very good. now there's a reason for this, like you say, over the last year since october, the 8th for his beloved that have been across the board of charlotte, but it's been contained with in that contested buddha between israel and lebanon. and was, once it's contained, people get a sense of being used to this, this now, lebanese people are saying is an acts of terrorism. because it came out of know what it was across level civilians were involved in this. don't kids who carry pages were involved in this medical stuff were involved in this, so it's being cold, a act of tear. we've heard from the lebanese for administer. he actually said that

this is not just a violation of 11 on a set on a separate separate entity, but it's also an escalation that could plunge the whole region into. well, we've heard from the health minister who said the, israel's not interested in a diplomatic solution. so the medical services here need to gear up for a much longer protracted conflict. that's the kind of language that they use as bullet has been very clear. they said that will be retribution for this attack. us in this all up the leader of hezbollah is going to be giving a televised address tomorrow at 5 o'clock local. we'll talk about these attacks that have taken place, plus since how a star seat that wouldn't be a deadline, but they certainly will be strong woods towards israel. but the whole of the country is gearing up for something. the politicians are talking about it publicly

and loudly, the people talk about it publicly and loudly here at the hospital is a very solemn atmosphere. this is still a lot of people here who have loved ones inside the building. you're worried about them. i would likely say move, come to this or the other. hopefully hospitals across level, the same things are going to be repeated once again. 24 hours off the uh, the initial attack took place in maryland. thank you so much for that reporting and you said the country and the lebanese are gearing up for something, you know, finding out what that something is and trying to understand what it could look like . is one of the driving questions for us today. thanks for your reporting outside of the, at the hospital there. and they route in the hospital area of the spring and also to resolve the ocean. your entire that's in 711 on the sun has set where you are, what happened outside of the capitol, the root or outside the capital. they route mainly what i on here in far we bought in a funeral and just a we,

we had the sound of exposure and everyone thought this was funny who we looked outside and that was a cough, a place. then simple thing to stay with. there was a, it's an apartment on the other side also with smoke coming out. and we started getting the news of explosions from one place to another. it seems that this is the 2nd wave of what happened on tuesday. the 2nd episode of the page are talk with at docs, mainly targeting the walkie talkies or the read use. and now we're hearing more about i read things with batteries and best by the way could change the whole not. i think about how the thoughts on the page has happened the previous day, because if it's the batteries that are exploding, then there is some things happening to the batteries on this could be part of

a cyber warfare. so i'm not the technical question, but please these are the observations. now. according to the ministry of health, there are many people aged hundreds, at least the number now was 300 and about 9 people killed. this tool is probably going to be more we don't know for now the reports are reaching to this sense every day, but before i get things to hospitals, still there are lots of chaos in front of hospitals and most important things. people out in the states off on search and see, and they don't know what's coming next. if the 1st day there was a page to attack the 2nd day attacks on lithium batteries. and so i'm saying right now that there are some solar systems that exploded, including one and an office of an official invade with us, according to what i had from my sources. so there are

a lot of question marks surrounding these attacks. and i had just had your, your, your guess talking about the possibility of things going beyond that. this is the main question right now over here about what are the is varies blinding to do. yeah, absolutely. and that's, that's another one of the questions is really driving us and the conversations we're having throughout the afternoon in the evening is what comes next. what comes next 11 on the people have been up of living on end. this ongoing is really as blog conflict. it's already under way. i would note that certainly hush i'm reporting from tire and southern lebanon. thank you very much, shelly. well, it's 16 gmc and we are continuing with our breaking news coverage out of 11 on more communication devices have explode.