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there are a lot of question marks surrounding these attacks and i had just had your, your, your guess talking about the possibility of things going beyond that. this is the main question right now over here about what are the is varies blinding to do. yeah, absolutely. and that's, that's another one of the questions is really driving us and the conversations were having throughout the afternoon in the evening is what comes next. what comes next 11 on the people have been up of 11 on end. this ongoing is really as blog conflict . it's already underway. i would note that sadly hush i'm reporting from tire and southern lebanon. thank you very much, shelly. well, it's 16 gmc, and we are continuing with our breaking news coverage. out of 11 on more communication devices have exploded in several parts of the country. at least 1000000 people have been killed and more than 300 people have been injured. the one
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blast occurred during the funerals of his beloved members and be route lebanese media or reporting explosions happened. phones and laptops and handheld radios, not to pagers. as we saw in tuesdays the 10 solar energy systems and also reported me exploded and caught fire. lebanese army has called to the public to stay away from blas zones, as the laws leadership says, the group is facing quote, a new phase, and the punishment is certainly coming. this with his beloved leader, has done this rela, due to speak tomorrow as spring and hummed us out, who it was with his life on the jordanian capital. i'm on that because the is really government has banned alpha 0 from reporting inside israel. so there's silence, as i understand on the attacks, both yesterday's attacks. and today's attacks silence from these really authorities . what's the conversation is going on in israel right now? on the complete silence from is really officials both yesterday and today about the series of explosions across lebanon.
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but within his really media, the school of thought is that this is indeed israel, and some is really official speaking anonymously. of course, to several different media outlets have confirmed that saying that this was indeed is real, a way of instilling fear and paranoia in his beloved one anonymous or speaking to american media. in fact, had said that they're hoping this will send a message to his beloved, that's the way israel is going to do with them is going to be different. and in fact, the way that to be conflict on israel's northern border is going to be resolved is going to be different than his roles more in gaza, saying that this will be completely separate situation. that is real deals with remember that his bella says that they are in solidarity with the palestinians in gaza with the palestinian factions. but israel says that this is a completely different issue that they are going to deal with on its own type of timeline. it's important to remember some of the rhetoric by is really official. in
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the last several months you have the defense minister who said he's not afraid to bomb living on back to the stone age. others, really officials who have said they're not afraid to turn baby boots into a 2nd, gaza, and remember just 48 hours ago, these really prime minister added a new goal of the war and entirely new objective to a conflict. and that is nearly a year in and not scores goal. the 4th agenda item is not related to gaza. the other 3 are, but this one is pertaining to the cross border fire and the north returning is released to those evacuated towns and settlements on the northern border that had been largely evacuated by the government starting on october the 8th. when the cross border fire began, so solomon israel, or reading this as that, nothing yahoo and his government, his security and defense apparatus, we are now turning a new page when it comes to dealing with the issue with his ball look. and that they are going to be trying new things, of course,
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in order to deter them. but it's still not exactly known what is rules long term plan is here as his bullet has out a response. and according to meetings that have taken place between the army, chief of staff, the defense minister and the other top ross for me is really military. they say they are prepared for a wide variety of scenarios and are bracing for any possible outcome. picking upon the point that you just made israel's long term plan. i mean there's no clarity on what that is. i mean on, on what is real strategy is right. as well. there's no clarity for israel strategy on anything. in fact, the war on gaza is nearly a year in the cross border fire with his ball less similarly nearly 12 months on going as well. and there's been no sort of plan from these really government from these really military. they have repeatedly said when it comes to god that, that they are defeating come off, but they are close to this. but you've had people come out from the army from the
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government saying that that's simply not true but nothing yahoo is looking to buy time. but he's extending the conflict for his own personal and political game when it comes to dealing with the issues on his roles. northern border, of course, israel is not going to let the world know what their security plans are military really moving forward, but they have said that they are prepared to launch and offensive. they have said that they're prepared to fight a full scale war, which is by law, but that they don't want that they don't want it to get there. but that they are willing to do that. and look, the rhetoric from is really officials all points to that israel perhaps is willing to fight a full scale war with his bola, even though allies like the united states have warned that it could spill over into something. israel can not contain mass casualties on both sides of that border, a wider regional conflict that would drag in many other countries. many other factions throughout the middle east that is real simply would not be able to
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contain on its own. so there are a lot of moving parts here, but one of the main criticisms that these really is constantly get is that there is no plan. this war has gone on for nearly a year and there is no plan whatsoever for what's next missing. yahoo! when his government even refused to discuss what's going to happen the day after the war, because they're not even sure where the war is going. and it's the same situation when it comes to these roles. northern border because this is still an open ended question. there are these on spoken rules of engagement. when comes to the cross border fire between his beloved and the is really what is real, is turning a new page, turning a new leaf when it comes to how they're going to be dealing with his follow up. but of course, we still don't know what that means entirely, but all signs are pointing that there are new military strategies being implemented here. okay. have that look. thank you very much. i have to run that. there's one other question i want to ask. you just think about this one for later is what
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israel's fall right. wants to see happen in 11 on. do they want to go to a, do they want to escalate the war 11 on or not? i i will be asking you that because that yeah. who more often than not has been citing with them in terms of his policy and what he decided to do on the various military fronts. and that was on the so reporting from amman, jordan, we can go inside the american hospital in the room now and speak to chief medical officer, doctor slot st. l. dean. thank you very much for joining us. can you explain to us what you've seen since you've been at the hospital? uh hello. uh since yesterday it's been really uh, very busy. uh, you know, so we receive more than a $150.00 patients that are bible 3 hours. most of them have injury. so there, you know, face including the, i the know the patient and admissions and judy, the hands on fingers. and so the weight and the like,
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why sort of the explanation? i don't think they were stopped lying on the bus for to them. i've been involved with enough to know what do you think it'll happen ever since that you have an ex stall and we foresee the day or who to be able to throw the situation at the moment of cancer or really the elective cases and all the cases to be able to apply the needs of the insurance. okay, so the hospital has um, turned all its efforts and resources towards dealing with the patients. you said i just wanna make sure i heard that right. the 140 patients are still in hospital. is that right in your hospital? yes. okay. what about today? did you get an influx of uh, injured and injuries after the bombs that we saw in the route today or not? uh, not for us today or we would have just told you we may be having one
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patients on the drums, the severe injury. but the idea otherwise more injuries today is yesterday we start to see 1 am. and this is the 1st kind of do it expecting to go based on the injuries that you're seeing, what kind of information does that give you on? well, the nature of the attack, we know that they were devices exploding and the size of the explosives that were used a it's the only we can only make it go user from our site medically, but looks like a bluish green, smaller bladder draws the range, but nothing that people, you know, and i'm not sure. so that's all consistent with the information that we have of these various devices. and yesterday it was all pager is being handheld or pocket held. and all of the medical information that you have, the injuries you're seeing are consistent with that, right? correct. okay, how long is it going to be before the hospital can return to
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a slightly more normal operating procedure and, and bring in the other patients? i would say that's things why, even though we really like 3 days to really to function. see again, hopefully nothing major will happen. not before. uh, uh, well that's what i was gonna ask you about. is the hospital gearing up for possible future attacks, right in the coming days? are you gearing up for possible more injuries? of course we suffer immediately to cover these days stories for khalidi and also like to try to cover, you know, a person and help them work on the kind or shouldn't basis the thought of having people before they come to. so we're trying to be ready for anything more and hopefully not, but yes, we all got stage already and it's going. all right,
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thank you very much. you're the chief medical officer of the salon zeno, dean. thank you very much for that briefing that update from inside the american hospital and they were, we appreciate your time today. thank you. let's go live to alpha 0 is rosalyn, jordan in washington, dc for us. can you update us on what's coming out of the state department? what's coming out of washington? generally on everything that's happening right now and 11. not well, not much has changed in the last 24 hours. us officials have said that they are trying to get a sense of what happened in love and on both on tuesday and on wednesday. they did not know about any plans to detonate. thousands of pagers and apparently now walkie talkies in house blog neighborhoods across the country. these officials have also said including the secretary of state to the blank and who was in cairo,
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egypt at this hour, that this is not the kind of thing that they would want to see happen because they are very much focused on trying to end the war and garza and trying to prevent that war from spreading into other conflicts, particularly that between israel and members of has full law. so nothing in particular, no new details. they say that they're just trying to get more information. rosalyn, jordan, thank you very much. the moment you hear more out of washington dc, we will be very interested to hear what they have to say publicly or what your sources are telling you. thank you. us is really political commentator or re goldberg joins us from tel aviv or e. uh, let's start with your general impressions on the last 48 hours, right. if you factor in yesterday and today on what you understand has been happening and, and what israel is seeking to achieve here. um i think. ready for the
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said, it's very accurately uh, just a few minutes ago is it doesn't really have a blessed a. this is how's a plan then it is most likely to try and go. this is the lower to starting. ready or because that way is going to be able to present this or as the level and will also be able to distract attention from the implications of it's abysmal failure and gaza. this operation, assuming that the pagers really did explode because the spouses were inserted into that has been planned for months now. and i believe it was carried out. and that so much to in order to achieve some kind of a strategic to. but because it has to happen otherwise the ext. ready is sort of going to waste and i think that reflects on how much is 0 has absolutely no plan no clear knowledge of what it wants and no. ready marks to define success or failure.
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okay, i'm computing what you're saying you're telling us is real and your view does not have a plan and they're trying to hide failure in gaza and possibly trying to drag 11 on into into a higher intensity war. because of course, it was already occurring and has been occurring for a year. what, what does that mean? that case, what does is real gain from yesterday's attack? us absolutely nothing for this is what is road us. this is just covers of we excel at uh, micro technical operations. we do pyrotechnics exceptionally well. we have an intelligence superiority over all. busy our enemies in the region, that's what we're capable of doing, but it seems like we're not capable of winning the war and not even started the war despite all the talk about the you know, that ability and the justice of. ready actions for this war so is a seems very powerful. it seems to have
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a lot of possibilities that effectively speaking it has. ready a few options and they keep dwindling all the time. what's the, what's the morning, and sorry, sorry to cut you off for you. what's the mood among these really public? i mean, is it celebratory? is it sort of what are we doing here? what are we trying to achieve, what, how it people responding it's? it's a combination of smoking, sincere, of smugness is, well look at that. so brilliant reducing and so we've got it done. but the series, the knowledge that something bad will come in that we have no idea what it is, as well as very little trust in our leadership. and that will then basically because it's clear to us that or leadership doesn't have a plan either. there's a lot of talk again about it, is it the military? and here we have no choice and that we must do this, but this reflects weakness not straight because it means that we don't know what we want or how we can achieve it. but we are full of a sense of foreboding,
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guiding us to do this thing regardless of the consequences or the institution. but at the same time, i understand there has been a section of not just these really leadership, but the is really public, which has felt for the last year. maybe now is the time for us to have the you know, the big war with has the laws to try and get them away from our northern border and deal with the has the law problem. the ssl from these really point of view, of course, deal with the has the law problem. one central a, you're not seeing that within is really society. sure. there's a general consensus. the war provides the only solution to the demands. political problem is brought upon itself, is activated about a 100000 citizens yours. and generally speaking, these early public supports of war. but the war in gaza has taught us that we can have the war, but we have no idea where they will. ready going where it will take us is really support or the supporting. we'd love to know,
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but they're also exhausted. they are also suffering economically. physically from the growing rapid dilapidation of allstate systems as always understand the implications of the war and they're afraid of or we've had alerts as a war with him, a lot at least 2 or 3 times over the past year in the chase there was miss stanley there's no panic, no, probably because of the exhaustion. we are confused with pricing. we're full of ourselves and we have absolutely no idea what this is. so easy to go. but we're pretty clear on the fact that it's going to end badly. what does the far right want to the far right is a fairly little consequence here. the fire on the 4th floor right, identifies uh, war as an opportunity to uh, actually this agenda across the board that need to remember that the star rights main agenda is on the far right. submitted main agenda. indexation of the rest the
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day. and in that sense of lower level. ready would be fabulous, she'd have missed directions that would allow as well. uh, to do just uh that's why the far right one. so i don't think the far right has a lot of clouds in, in the leadership right now. i don't think anybody has presented them with the opportunity to dictate agendas the far i will support a war, but this isn't the far. i swore this is the award. it's being perpetrated by is always political. the news or leadership for. busy broad variety of reasons, and it's also hor, that at least in theory is supported by a majority of this relative who's driving this in israel? is it primarily the is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu? is it only him? is or is it also the security establishment? most odd as advisors, etc. the data to the side. and the advisors certainly is early military.
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uh, not just the active leadership but quite a few senior retired generals have been talking about award since november of 2023 as. ready only. ready in cloud solutions, they're a part of this. i would say that the military is playing a major part in trying to present. this is a viable option, and the reason is almost self evident military wants to distract attention from it . saying the aaron garza, there is no political faction that's driving this and i think that's an interesting point about israel. generally, there's very little positive political planning or is wrote in general and it is early politics in particular. there are no plans. there are no visions, there are no suggest is to try and articulate the future of israel. there's just survive from day to day. and the constant iteration. ready reiteration of if it's
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abilities, which is supposedly reflect stats, but ultimately reflect great weekends. i or any goldberg is really political commentator joining us from tel aviv this our thank you so much for your time today . thank you for having me. let's go ahead and run con houses around con, who joins us from outside the american hospital and they roots and run. i understand that you've got some activity around your behind you what's going on? well, let me show you where i am. this is the college park for the american hospital. you may well be able to just pick out and the dog is that full liberty soldiers. what we're hearing is an explosive device was found in an ambulance, is how by the lebanese army, the engineers are on the scene right now. i'm a going to, in short order. i have a controlled explosion to neutralize that particular device that's been going on for about 10 minutes now. um it looks like uh,
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the ambulance is slightly farther away. you can't really see it. but again, this actually just confirms that it's not just has those that have been targeted in this, these pages, these will control piece. i used quite lots of people within is lebanese society, including the medical and most of a medical work is these are the guys the 1st on the same? this is an ambulance, 1018 full ambulance is we used last night along a 100 hospitals? well, used across the country in the american hospital, there's still a 140 patients getting treated. so it's not just handful of they've been talking to the health industry. they've been very care about this. they've said a lot of the injuries, the so well from the civilians that were targeted in these attacks. whether they
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were just ne, by somebody with a page of whether they would carry the page it themselves including women and children. now there is a desk told on the wall control the talk is what like holding it here. we now know that 9 people have been killed. 3 feet, 3 under injuries so far. we all thinking that one of those injuries is going to come to the american hospital. we've been hearing a lot of sirens that take place over the last few hours. there's 3 whole schools have in place for 70 to each other. so it's like, it's like going to the hospital for this hospital is on the high, low a. now once again, another problem for the lebanese getting this controlled explosion, done and making it safe and making it unusual. and i'm not sure if you can see those liberties all the soldiers that but they all ready and for that control to where i can run. i can't quite make of the soldiers that our viewers can probably see it better than i can at this very moment. very if we stay on that
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a moment longer, who do you know? and maybe you don't the do you know who sounded the alert on that? because if people are getting an edgy around phones, pagers solar devices and all the other devices that have blown up between yesterday and today, you know, that's a many situations in which you could potentially need to do a controlled explosion. so you're right. we don't know who run the alarm on this particular one of the lebanese on they haven't really given us that information. so we can say with a certain degree of confidence, because you've heard this several times from people during the day is people that have actually just the, the don't the pages or given them over the phone x plus to be able to neutralize the everybody's checking. now that will be to use a checking laptops, even checking who of anything that may be able to have
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a wireless transmit low power noise. right now, that's possibly how this device was discovered. it may really just been difficult because somebody was trying to check because they had, i hope it hopefully i may heard the reports about the will control he's being talked to may will just be able to. he's, like i said con, confirm that the or anything can really confirm is the lebanese army is working to neutralize that particular explosion. a controlled explosive control displays and everyone. there's no particular reason to believe that there would have been a, has bullet operative in that ambulance. and this goes to a point that you were making earlier that these bonds have been going off around civilians not just has belong targets about 24 hours ago. we interviewed adult to this most people, he actually said
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a lot of all stuff carry pages. it's just a convenient way when they're only cool to be able to get hold of them very quickly . these pages are in use in liberty's side, typically in the medical sites. it's a thing that they use. the zip is below, in fact, this is the american pulse with behind you didn't mean business. so this attacked by his ro is being seen in 11 as being a terrorist attack because it has said terror. people are scared, a living room con, thank you very much. they are reporting. i know you're going to be monitoring what happens, what is the eventual outcome with that ambulance behind you? and by the way, i would point out that if that's happening in your immediate vicinity, it could be happening and many other parts of the country at the same time just we're not seeing it as, as there was a wrong. com. thank you so much that you're reporting a late patient may is
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a cyber security specialist, jo, joining us from london this evening. i want to know, i don't think this is going to surprise you. i just want your, your best explanation on what you've seen over the last 2 days from a sort of technical operational standpoint. all right. hello again. and thanks for having me. so i think we have regarding today there's still very limited reports on what really happens, but if we extrapolate from yes that i think we have a clear picture of what happened yesterday, i'm more reliable sources. apparently that was that that has been long as the supply lines were compromised. the shipping of devices, pages, or least we know its pages so far, we don't know what else has been compromised. they weren't planned, seated with integrated sockets, which all the little blackbox is that people usually see when they opened up electronic devices that they were ranked with explosives and implants that into those devices. they weren't then programmed to go off one of the pages that
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received this in signal and it pays the signal was sent yesterday causing white spot explosions. now it's interesting to note that the, the report so far as saying that the explosives weight between 5 and 20 grams about closer to 5 grams. and the fact that 5 grams of explosive cont exclusives can cost and much damage is just choking. but you're talking about the powers, but what's happening today it goes well beyond painters, it's walkie talkies. it's apparently an i phone the book and a phone shop outside of the capital. it's solar devices. so you're, you're, or you're saying that all of these devices could potentially have been tampered with, you know, while they were being built or why they were being assembled outside of living on so on. so far, like i said, there are limits of report spot personally, i'd be very surprised if iphones and uh, excuse me, susan, what, no,
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on the other reports for guessing. i think if extrapolate for me yesterday, if it is the it might, has been the way to increase that they using communications and possibly biometric devices. i say it was because it, i mean it's clear that they've compromised principles of procurement system. they would know that these devices aren't going to his beloved by thing could randomly or even without an incident, without specific information on why devices would be coming 11 on for them to then bring close devices with explosives. i think that's a that's, that's that, that's not very reasonable. i would, i think, i think when the picture becomes a bit more clear, i will not design that was much more limits. and then we believe, i think what happened was the voltage whole piece had a that explosion was much larger than what we saw yesterday. purely because they will control kids or just generally larger, meaning that they've got more space to add more explosives and the batteries also launch themselves, which means that the batteries would add to the explosions that you would get from
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the explosives. right. so that's interesting because you were saying that potentially up to a 5 grams of explosives were added to the pagers that we saw detonated yesterday. walkie talkie being bigger, it could be more than 5 grams. and then with the battery being bigger and stronger, we understand why that leads to a bigger explosion. so potentially potentially has the lies looking at having to throw anything with a battery. so i think that the goals of this attack, well, that was several, right? obviously the 1st is that the physical and the damage to the past. so now i think more than that and in cyber attacks, this is usually one of the primary objectives. and it's to need more lice. has the law to send a clear message that we have you compromised. additionally, it's to, so distrust between the fights is and between, between them and themselves as wise as and between them and their communication. if they don't know what quippman said, trust, then this,
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it just causes chaos on the possible field. rise. and i think as objectives, i mean, we know a few days ago the, these are the occupations cabinet at the meeting to discuss why getting the more on the northern front, i think. and this is only my personal opinion. and i think this with this whole operation, the goal of it is to discourage has been law from taking this any further to just push them to back out from this. it least take us inside the mind of a cyber security expert for just a 2nd. as you know, watch the news and the various reports they going to be keep coming out on this. what is the thing that you're most interested to find out, right? what's the answering you most want and why? i'm most interested to find out how they knew which models hezbollah was buying, how they knew where they were getting them from, and how they managed to hide the presence of explosives in those devices for so long. because from what, what we know so far is that those.

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