0 now the communication devices explode in coordinated attacks across to 11 or 14 people, including his pulling members have been killed. hundreds have been injured. the i, my name's heidi. this is out of there, alive from the also coming up the desktop from tuesday's pages. tax and 11 on rises to 12. thousands have been injured. hundreds on in critical condition. the united nations general assembly adults, the resolution demanding that israel ends. it's illegal occupation of the palestinian territories within

a year. and is rarely forces continue to target displace palestinians. this time inside gusts and such as the welcome to the program is 19 gmc, we're staying with all breaking news out of 11 on low communication devices have exploded in several parts of the country. at least 14 people have been killed and move in full 150 injured among them civilians and his bullet members. the one last occurred during the funerals of his bullet members who died in tuesday's page a tax. seventies media reporting today is explosions, happened in phones, laptops, as well as handheld radios, solar energy systems have reportedly exploded,

unquote fire and nobody's on the has cool for the public to stay away from the law serves as well as leadership says, the group is facing quote, a new phase and that punishment is suddenly coming to schedule a corresponding audit hash. me joins us now from southern 11 on out a you are interior in southern them and on what you yourself, of witness. several exposure explosions during the course of the day took us through all the days developments and where things stand as of now, as well as thoughts with the latest numbers coming from the ministry of health. yeah, 11 on 14 people have reported to i've been killed and these attacks and 400 people, 450 people are injured in combat isn't to yes, today's wave of the page of attack, today's number of taxes as 5, there are 5 people more. yes,

it is when night people killed today's 14 people killed, however, number of people in just less, but still this is waived. it had its 1st phase. yes. today today is the 2nd phase. and given the fact i've personally witnessed a couple of explosions. everybody was shocked to see things happening this quick when people were still trying to grasp onto this fence. what happened yesterday? i immediately just 24 hours later everyone has a face once again with this wave, that truck not only is the southern sub available which are at the city of fire, but many cities and towns across the 11 on from the because the 2 explosions reported to the city of side into tire, to the about the, to the southern solvable b route this mux news threshold as has, will you reported was said,

but of course, this would mean a lot of questions from the people because does right now i'm not most federal phone so 10 sort sir, tennessee between people, people twice, consent of the next step. what's going to be the day after is this gray zone operations is this glenda sign security hits that has a lot of courses i q as in is relative. does it context accuses read positive, just a free text or a step before a bigger military escalation? this is right now. the big question he, i live in. yeah. as you say. and even before that 2nd phase of attacks took place this evening. we heard from the leader of hezbollah has done this raw that he said he was going to speak tomorrow. do you have any indication of what we expected to

hear from him while the lead, the a lot of issues. that's also a lot would be a talking about would be a taxing but the main issue is that she would have to suit the concerns office supporters. this is on one side that are questions and he needs to provide these people with and says mainly on what's happening within the organization. capitalized, famous to be one of the very secretive organizations level in the region bottom toward the procedures that are preventive measures. all the same as everyone knows about them today with such attacks from these varies that shows a lot of leverage for these various. busy a lot of compromise within has will lot. there are going to be really questions for him to answer. also the question of revenge and for a spot the been on the,

the question of what the text because people would want to know what's next, is this going to continue this way? the country is just in this situation of k off. people are situated situation off on setting t. it's still talking about the supporters of his life about everyone, because these explosions are not only in fact in the people of his beloved and in fact think everyone. and we can see how the country is reacting to these attacks. ok for now. thank you. la hashim, that for us in southern 11 on that's hey, now from enron con, he is outside the american hospital in favorites. at around 16 g, m t. that was a controlled explosion of a explosive device that was found on an ambulance belonging to the american university hospital. this is where the explosion took place this construction going

on. so this was where the lebanese army engine is decided. it would be safest to make that controlled explosion. the sound was very loud. likely because of the explosion explosive. they used to designate that particular device. now, like i said, this was found on a hospital throughout last 24 hours. we've been hearing medical stuff say we use these pages because that convenient for us there in ambulances, the walkie talkies, all in the ambulances, the pages are being used by medical stuff. now the health ministry of also been speaking, they've given us the numbers of the dead and injured that took place on tuesday at 12 people that including 2 children. now, $300.00 people are in critical condition with the injuries, the total amount of injuries from choose. they learned is 27522800. as of recording miss

that have been 9, confirmed a dead and 300 flights of casualties that have happened as a result of what they call in the walkie talkie attack. now, at this american hospital, he still has people in it that came over night, some 140 people. i've been watching people talking to each other. they've been slightly joking with each other in a very dark, humorous way of looking at their phones. going. i wonder if there's an explosive in my phone, but that document and depends something new for the 11 these people. they feel that this is an incredibly scary tactic that these riley's, according to the lebanese government and his bullet are doing. and that very, very, very afraid and melancholy. how do they reach dr. sila, as they know, dean is the chief medical officer at the american university of favorites and

medical center and adults of intensive care medicine. he says his hospital has a calf to move and a 100 patients on tuesday of this yesterday. it's been really a very busy you know by tomorrow. so we receive more than a $150.00 patients and that our bible, 3 hours, most of them have injury. so there you know, face including the ice, the know the patient and officials, the induced to the hands, feet goes to the waiting and the like. why the sort of you can explanation of the nation. they were separate like, how does this for to them i've been involved with enough to know how been functioning ever since the man and how not stall. and we foresee the another day or 2 to be able to throw the situation that we're having at this moment. we have cancer or really the elective cases in both cases, to be able to apply the needs of insurance,

not life to us today. and we want to just told you we may be having one patients on the class, the severe injury, like the idea. otherwise no injuries today is. yesterday we start to see the one i am an ever so this is the 1st guy that you were expecting to know. we can only make it from our sites medically above. it's like close green, small black drawers. the range, but nothing that be good. you know, and i'm ready to, to explore more responses immediately to companies based on what he spoke already. and also like to try to recover, you know, our person and help them work on the kind or shouldn't basis the start of having people before they come to work. so we're trying to be ready for anything more and hopefully not. but yes, we are at that stage. what evening in the spring and home the salutes she's live

from the jordanian capital amman, because he is where the government has found out is there from reporting from inside israel. so him the in the last hour. so we've had a number of interesting statements coming from is really need is visa v, as well as intentions in 11 on took us through exactly what we've heard and why we think that could be significant. well perhaps the most interesting of those statements was from these really prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who released a short video just about 10 seconds long. with one sentence saying, quote, we will return the residents to the north, safely. that is exactly what we will do. the video that ended with him walking out of the frame, but the more substantive of the statements was from these really defense minister yell of golan, who said that israel is entering a new phase in this conflict, is that the center of gravity is shifting to the north and the conflict there, these really army chief of staff hurts the hell levy also holding his own

situational and security assessment. saying that israel has a wide variety of weapons tactics and other measures that they haven't yet used yet . and that they are prepared to do so. so all of this is signaling and sort of shifts within is really policy when it comes to the situation on the northern border that hasn't been contained for nearly a year. now there has been no sort of plan whatsoever. the back you ations for the people of those towns and settlements has been extended time and time again with no sort of timeline as to when they're going to go back. it's also worth mentioning, but nets and yahoo just 48 hours ago, added a 4th goal to his war objectives previously. all of them pertaining to the war on gaza. but the final one included, returning, evacuated, is released to those areas in the north. but what exactly that means and the measures that will be taken, it's still unclear. and honda, is there any indication militarily that that operation is now preparing to pivots

and focus towards the north and it's difficult to say because these really military did, in fact move one of their battalions up north and moving some different types of machinery or tillery positions but it's unclear what exactly the army is helping to do with that because this hasn't really been a change within israel's policy. we've heard for months and months that they are allocating resources, military and security resources that is to the northern border. they are moving troops there, they've conducted the largest military drills of their time during recent months. and while they were making all of those statements, there was no shift in is really policy when it came to military action against his butler and in southern lebanon. so it's still unclear what exactly is role is hoping to do. but within these really security realm within these really school of

thought is that there is definitely a plan that needs to be in place. but some are saying that perhaps this is all talk, perhaps the entry of a new phase. these comments are merely to appease the public who have been so frustrated with their government nearly a year into this war with no sort of plan for how the war on gaza is going to end. and if there is going to be a new war, that is on least in the north. okay, for now. thank you. hum, desolate that for us in a mind, let's discuss this further with these riley political commentator or a goal. but he's live in tennessee for us, and thank you for joining us. i want to get your take on the series of statements we're getting this evening from these various is really neat. as i mean the, the prime minister in a video message promising again his intention to return residence of the north back to that homes. what is he trying to say in this statement?

is this the promise of why the escalation to come in 11 on? oh, is this old talk. and so most of the saw, remember that is all has failed to lead to genes. it's declared war goals and garza oxygen has not been returning emotions. and most of it is thought. busy uh i see she is uh he was to touch base with a broad consensus. uh that i think is very much prevalent to necessarily just society and that consensus of parts of water just like it supports the war in gaza . it's a. ready or a loved one. and in fact, official, israel has never considered a solution. that is not war and let her know for the huge political problem is all cause itself and it is actuated, a 100000 is and divorce. so i think the prime minister is trying to site yourself up as uh,

as people said once and also trying to rally as early as. ready around gym and so forth because of these don't support him excessively, but i think most of it as far as the prime minister netanyahu has made now officially his 4th will goal to get the people in the north back to that homes. how important is it to him from a political point of view to achieve this, getting those people back home? what, why, why is this so critical as well? uh, i think it uh, displays a complete lack of government. this start the fact that, um, uh these people um, are homeless. the fact that these people live in hotel rooms in television, is there a hard time? the fact that the north is others shut down and i think that's true such as incompetence. and if these governments inability to governance all saying it is this has been going on for a year,

he hasn't done much about it so far. so i think it is coming now because this operation, this attack stage are attack. and before i can talk, it was carried out and also because the situation guys are so bad, some sort of destruction is needed. we often hear from common cases that prime minister netanyahu is, is pending on his hopes, on the us selections and a trump presidency. do you think that's fair? it may be, but again, it's what the americans would call a hail mary, there is no indication that a trump presidency would serve and these early agenda and maybe that's the major point. there is no is early agenda is a doesn't have a plan, it doesn't have any kind of strategic vision. it has been reduced to either funding or solid because it has itself dismantled any option for. ready a diplomatically negotiated future for

a chance to stop the work is on the site itself at this moment, pretty much devoid of options, except for the soul pyrotechnics like the page or a tech demonstrated that's in the i really has no options. so he'd like to try and make a bill for a trump presidency. how this is the starts of warren living on the wants everybody to do things for him. but he lacks both the political capital and the political standing to initiate a major move on his own. the rhetoric, severe hearing is mostly talk, mostly battered felicia, as including the statements of our minister of defense. and there's no reason to assume that. ready indicate a radical change or an upcoming all out for. okay, thank you for your time or a callback. is there any political commentary to speaking to aside from tel aviv thank you for having me to gauze and now where a people have been killed and is rarely a tank on a school, housing displaced,

palestinians in northern casa. the strike happened in b, c, j, e, a neighborhood of guns of 55 children, and 2 women among the dead. the entered, have been taken out of the hospital. sorry, a couple of assume census this update from darrow, by a in central casa warehouse pension. is increasing 11 on these by the always are still on the goals a strip where they have reading the complete intensification zone is valley attacks on the you know, the parts of the strip when by tunnel in town. a residential house has been targeted. one palestinian at least, has been killed and also an evacuation since anesthesia and april who has been completely targeted without any food. when included, tie witnesses. now we continue to hear from, from medical sources that fate palestinians have been killed, including 5 children and 2 women in terms of have left behind the great deal of destruction. wine here in the central area of the situation is getting much more

delicate as well in terms of security levels. because if it is well repeated attacks for residential areas, 2 cities have been targeted in the past couple of hours, including as the why the as a right refugee camp, which has witnessed a clear destruction of a residential house. one palestinian that has been confirmed too. while also by witnesses told us that there has been ongoing continuation of got a gun fight exchange. we'd almost fight this and the history of the patient forces in the city of the, in the fox cells of the parents. we went to kind of city and at least have been killed in the fitness, rural areas on the rough law that have been also killed without any sort of a 3 warning and a very active military. what was of sure because of how does the run every, by how to sign to the united nations general assembly has adopted a resolution demanding the israel and what the assembly calls it's unlawful presence. and the all supplied published an entire street within 12 months as well

. has denounced the un resolution as cynical that's going to kristin slow me, she's the only for us at the u. n. so equipment focus through exactly what we heard from the u. n. today and how much it really matches. well 124 member states that's about 2 thirds of the countries here at the united nations voted in favor of this resolution which the palestinians have described as the next step for ruling by the international court of justice, which labeled israel's occupation of palestinian territory since 1967, a legal calling for them to uh, withdraw troops and settlements and established a palestinian control. this was a strong majority in favor of the palestinian resolution, although it does not carry the weight of international law. it doesn't. it demands

that uh, not only that is real, withdraw its troops and it's sellers and 12 months. it also causes that member states to take actions against israel to encourage them to leave, including not doing business in ways that would support the occupation or the illegal op of illegal settlements in the region. so we have been hearing for 2 days now from member states as they make speeches and layout the path forward for the palestinians. are many speeches. calling for our resumption of talks, the 2 state solution and respect for international law, which this resolution was based on that, that decision that advisory opinion of the international court of justice, a christian slay me, that for us at the united nations let spring back home to salutes she's live from amman, just reminded us because these really government has found out is there a from reporting inside israel?

so home to what reaction has that been, if any, from israel to this you and vice well, the reaction from his role was as expected. nothing new in the statement from the foreign ministry that called this un resolution distorted and disconnected from reality. it also went on to say that resolutions like this in bold and an already radicalized palestinian authority. their statement went onto mentioned the attacks of october. the 7th would fail to mention anything about israel's occupation of the palestinian people for the last 76 years. and that's because israel doesn't even acknowledge the fact that there is an occupation or occupied palestinian lands in general. settlements that are legal under international law or not legal under is really law. but rather just some outposts that are set up by settlers who steal palestinian land, but none the less, the statements shouldn't come as a surprise,

as israel generally rejects any sort of resolution by the un, either from the general assembly or the security of counsel when it's against is really law or any sort of as rarely policy. it's also worth mentioning some of the comments by israel's finance minister benson and smelt rich unknown. all true national is to said that she would continuously work against the palestinian state, going on to say that the united nations is an anti semitic body. something that we hear from is really officials even delegates after you went repeatedly. so no surprise from the comments from is really officials on this latest un resolution. so i just want to point out that we are waiting for a statement from washington. we're expected to hear from john cubby at any moment. now we're going to go to it. but given we are waiting to hear reaction from the united states. i wanted you to give us a sense of how much pressure israel has been on the uh, from the us uh,

visit be the situation as well. there's been an abundance of pressure on israel, specifically by the united states who says that it's still is a staunch supporter of a 2 state solution. but this government with, in israel, specifically, nathaniel who's right when government is the most right wing it. israel's history, its members are known, alter nationally as members of the far right. many of them who live in illegal settlements themselves who say they would continuously work against the palestinian state, even though that is not american policy. so it's interesting to see all of this pressure, but it ultimately falls on deaf ears because when it comes to the war on gaza, specifically mentioned y'all who has said that he would continue to fight the war with or without american support. so the opinion of the americans to israel doesn't really matter when they're still getting what they need in terms of military

support and military aid. but the situation is spiraling out of control in both israel and the palestinian territories. you have near daily raids across the occupied west bank. you palestinians living under a brutal military occupation and occupied east jerusalem. and across the west bank you have the where on gaza that is nearing a year with no end in sight. and then you have israel, who says they're ready for a war with his ball, looks in the north despite american pressure to not have that happen because it would spill over into a wider regional conflict. so despite all of the american pressure is when it comes to these un resolutions, when it comes to the war on garza in any sort of political talk here, israel does not care and still operates, however, it sees fit. and we've heard that from nets. and y'all, himself saying that israel will act, however it sees fit, whether it's this war, the continuation of rates in the occupied westbank and now the developing situation

on its northern border. okay, thank you for that. have the center that for us in a mind or or us extra estate, anthony blinking who is in egypt to further efforts towards a safe spot in gauze. but it was aust about as well as a tax on 11 on yesterday. we're still gathering the facts. i can't tell you in this moment what, what impact this will have. i certainly can speak to what impact it might have on as well and, and its operations that would demand of their expertise. and again, it's also necessary to fully understand what's happened and we're still in the process of, of doing that. let's get reaction from our white house correspondent give me the whole kids in washington dc and kimberly us extra estate. and so we blink and saying very little really in that statements, but we are learning on way that behind the scenes the us may have known

a little bit more about these attacks on lab and then they have their own. so yeah, that's right. what we're learning is that there was, uh, we knew uh the was a phone call between the secretaries defense, lloyd austin, as well as his is really counterpart that was reported by the pentagon on tuesday. what we were told about that call is that it was about the need for a cease fire deal at. and israel's were a gaza to release the captives reduce tensions. and the best way to do that was via diplomacy. but now we're learning. there may have been more to that call then was initially let on. in fact, what is being reported here in the united states is that in fact, the united states may have had notification by israel, but in fact there was an image attack in love a non without the details being provided. now what we also know in the midst of all of this is but in addition, we also are aware that in fact,

there had been an effort by the white house to try and prevent some sort of escalation as a result of seeing signs of the war. perhaps that were taking place in the israel's, specifically the fact that a most hawk's, the in the us special envoy was dispatched on monday to meet with the as really prime minister of the president as well as the defense minister. and the message that was said was that we do not want to see any escalation, but yet we saw now was 2 different attacks that have been, well they have not been claimed by israel. we do know or the fact that according to reports here in the us media that their united states has been raised following those attacks by israel. so uh, well there has been no claim and the us says it's gathering facts. it's clear that

the united states has more information than it is making available to the press. ok, thank you for that white house correspondent kennedy hall, cuz that for us in washington, dc, or the un 16 general, i'm sonya gutierrez as well. and that's a serious risk of dramatic escalation in the region following the attacks in nothing on what has happened is particularly the city is not only because of the number of victims that it's caused. because of the indications that exists that to these was 3 goods. i would say in advance of the normal way to 3 go to these things because that was the risk of these being discovered. because obviously the logic of making all these devices explodes is to do it as a preemptive strike before

a major, really thorough protection. so as important as the events in itself is the indication that these events confirms that there is a serious risk of that emetic escalation 11 and everything must be done to avoid that escalation of the us. federal reserve has caught interest rates by hoff a point that is the 1st reduction in full years. the interest rate influence is borrowing costs for all sorts of debts, including mortgages, credit cards, as well as car loans. the new rate cost is higher than expected, and marks the end of the central banks policy of high king borrowing costs to deal with inflation. oh. okay, before we go, i just wanna recap uh,

breaking news this evening out of lebanon. more communication devices have exploded in several parts of the country. and these 14 people have been killed. more than 450 inches among them civilians and has been the members. lebanese media also were forcing today's explosions happened. phones, laptops, as well as handheld radio solar energy systems of also reporting exploded and quote, fire the lebanese army is called on the public to stay away from the last sense. okay, the up to date, inside stories, the u. k. probably minister keystone lane to inspire our team members. but the annual later ponti conference, eva talked with tax rises on the horizon. and these quiet over the policy and gaza

is the u. k. getting set the tough times ahead. notices on l 20. nasa tax targeting has fallen members and 11 on devices, useful communication excluded in german thousands and 10 in several as well as leaving israel is the risk of the biggest conflict. this is in 5 story. the hello and welcome to the program. i'm elizabeth, put on them as well, and 11 on based group has will not have been engaged in cross border conflicts and israel as well. and that's what they've gotten nearly a year ago, concerns of a lot of conflicts and now rolling off to see your use of quota. native attacks.

targeted has bhalla members and 11 on tuesday. they came a day off for the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said he'd make it a goal of his one, gaza, to return to thousands of his bailey's displays by the violence and no one as well as well that has blamed as well for the page of explosions, that ended more than $2500.00 people and as promising retaliation as well as yet to comment, but it's on a is deploying additional forces to it's moving forward 11 on. so what will it has all those response looked like at is there were risk of a wider conflict. we'll put that to, i guess shortly. first, this report from the image and kimber, the size of explosions, the coast 11 on, and syria. from a cyber attack, the turned pages held by hezbollah members into weapons for thousands of injuries, hundreds are in the critical state. somebody using fingers, suffering serious abdominal injuries,

being blind the range and i'm positive 11 on the among them. well, they report say his injuries a slight lebanon's hospitals, opinion overwhelmed and the desktop is still realizing many of these here has been a fight as well. there's some carrying the pages killed other roles within the group, medics and one was a young go. another, how much must the i'm on the phone of has been a member of parliament, ali m o r g y s i a. this is a new is really aggression, again, slip and the resistance will retaliate and a suitable way at a suitable time has been an official as opposed to the coup. this the biggest security breach, the group of space in the past year conflict with israel. it's not yet clear how it was car. he died with speculation on whether explosives had been inserted into the pages before they were distributed. has been the members recently started using

pages because it was believed they were less likely to be tracked than smartphones to sell. the so has put a squarely blames israel's been the we blame these right the enemy, they full responsibility for this criminal attack that also home civilians. the treacherous and criminal enemy will get the fear of punishment for this cowardly attack. but israel has so far remain silent. right. and it's powerful already the us didn't like having any prior knowledge of tuesday's attack orders. no us involvement in this at all a sentiment the us has maintained since has the israel again, the curse for the conflict in response to the world garza but that hasn't stopped tensions rising and the conflict expanding with both sides. hitting deeper across the israel, lebanese border, and israel occurring at a high level assassination of a husband, a leader in bay route,

in july. so many of left all asking whether this strike to have hit the largest number of has been to members. and to threaten that security was a one of attack oldest out of a much bigger conflict. imaging came back out to 0. the inside story that's bringing, i guess, and they've route, i'm on the honda executive director of the some of the costs of the foundation which focuses on freedom of expression and media development and then the vonage region and washington dc for the us mux of a senior director at the middle east institute and an expert is on the politics of lebanon, sylvia, and the board of dynamics off the middle east region and, and lol. now let us collin clock, director of research at the c fun group. that's a global intelligence and security, consult and see a very warm welcome to each of you. we have so much to get through, but i want to start with i'm on and be rude. i'm on the people of 11 on who have

been through so much already. i'm probably full. they have seen that. how are they feeling today? there is a feeling of fear. now we're almost sure that we have not seen at all about the future. the next few days might carry developments that can go in any possible direction, including the worst ones. and this situation of fear of uncertainty of not knowing whether our kids would be able to go to school tomorrow or not. it's something that is pervasive and you feel it in the way you interact with people, you repeat it, and the jokes, the dark humor that is spreading so widely online, but it's only a facade for us, a country that has been read of here, those who are opposed to hezbollah are very much afraid that the, the, the, the minutes in the group is bringing a war onto the country that nobody has asked for. another st on even supporters of football are now questioning how well protected they are, how secure they are,

when it's very important people within the organization could be target that so directly. and when something as important as the supply chain of one of the most secretive groups is, is exposed and which a lot of great points to pick up on the call. and let me bring you in on what i mom was saying about the supply chain sofa. the trail of who made the pages goes cold in budapest. what's you'll, siri, of with in the supply chain? israel managed to turn these pages into weapons. yeah, well, as you mentioned, i think you know, all eyes are on the budapest, at the moment tie, we got time to use company involved. i think if you think about how it meticulously planned, this operation must have been. this is something the as early as less than a couple months ago. and i thing on the heels of the assassination of it's not on

the intent wrong. this is an advertisement for massage. it's a way for them to kind of refurbish their brand, which was tarnished after the attacks of october 7th. it's also likely not the end of this campaign. and so i would expect to see more in the coming days and weeks and we can see a tax anywhere from 2 ron to, to bed room or beyond. i do want to talk a little bit later when you say that this is an advertisement from all side because we have to remember that among those codes as an 8 year old girl and an 11 year old boy that cannot be good publicity for any intelligence agency, the death of innocent civilians, but i want to also talk perhaps more importantly about what this does for has been less image for the us. the us government's former deputy national intelligence officer on the middle east. so this would easily be the biggest counter intelligence failure that hezbollah has had in decades. would you agree,

elizabeth? it's hard to overstate the impact of what i'm told that in baby yesterday. i've heard it be referred to as a digital rushing. well, as far as his boss, communication capabilities involved, no military organization can fine, can i blindly and what they've done with the resume, i believe the most side has done is essentially taking out a significant portion of his ball as command and control capabilities. so yes, on its own, this is a very significant blow. but when we take, you're also in the wider context. clearly israel has the more can escalate tori dominance and establish that in the past 11 months to accomplish whether it is 1st targeted to the southern suburbs of bailey. to assassinate, i'm not as liter 11 and then cubic and bullet on chief of staff and lady july be able to toward hezbollah has reported a response to that by 3 because attacked with significant american health

a few weeks ago. and now this, so his bullet has been built for a military blow, a technical blow, but more importantly, perhaps as an was highlighting a very significant moral, grow and low. and i think his bullet today fall, but the pace is a dilemma. it's a response and response, possibly that might get israel and the prime minister in particular, maybe not. and yeah, with the projects he's looking for to expand as more and should the response be limited or not existing at all that further and bike escalation. so it's a very difficult moment for us, but all right, now, and obviously everybody's, i don't see what the secretary general has and that sort of that will have to say and much of waited speech tomorrow. i'm on, i want to ask your communications expert. hindsight has a wonderful thing, but how much of the situation a we in now would these pages being weaponized would you say is on how some national out himself, who made televise remarks earlier this year,

telling hezbollah members to get rid of this smartphones, saying that they are more dangerous than is really spies in hindsight, should he perhaps not have publicize those remarks? i don't know if tomorrow us, how's that gonna sound that we use as incentives? if i only knew the teenagers after the 2006 to lie, or given the consequences that we know because this goes for us, mention beyond just the technical capabilities. it's about identifying who the operative spar within seconds, before people realize what happens. images, thousands of images adventures were circulating on social media and therefore people were able to very simple open source intelligence to gather data. pictures information about people tracking system is very easy. tracking, the movement of ambulances is very open. records of hospitals contain the name, the details, personal, these things are patients changing risk,

southern li, just to main thing, the secrecy of some of the people my book, the box easy. so the number of places today on social media, in the media and costs, it's a records and gloves. uh, you know, confusion records where names and details of very important people across such a secretive organizations are made public is not something easy to begin with. even if a decision to actually strike or or retaliate is bacon, there are plenty of question marks about other moves or other gaps within the command and control structure that might be exposed as well. so this is today is the kind of situation that everybody is graphic with and wondering what kind of response will happen in the next few days and calling before we talk more about how hezbollah might respond to such an attack, one has bullet, sol said they believed that it was in response to an alleged assassination attempt

on the phone. the top is where the defense official that was released that was revealed by as well on the same day a yeah, that certainly would be the motive for this. but in terms of timing, um, you know, i've heard all sorts of different policies that essentially, you know, when this operation was initially planned, those who plan to believe that as real would be active war, all that more of a testable. and this would be kind of a part of the opening stages or faces of that conflict. i've heard that, you know, there was some rumblings that has a little bit of learning about this. and he is really sad to ask before the plan was, was out. and, and so i think the fact that we're here that we're discussing and that there's all sorts of hypotheses floating around, is exactly what them solved was hoping for, right? because it feeds into this kind of spider game shuttle or uh, you know, kind of overlay that many have been following and look,

this is the continuation of the as rarely is going to more in the shadows with it wrong in the rounds prophecies. and as we all know, that's been ongoing far before october 7. and for the us we kind of ignore that. the attack came just alice off to as well, the announced it was voided and gets aims. and because of war 2 included, supplies against has been the along the northern border. is the attack. do you think parts of the new wiggle and how would war on its move in for to make it any easier for the 10s of thousands of his varies have been displaced from the north to the tub as yeah, elizabeth to echo with call in just said it's very hard to decipher at this point whether this is the opening salvo of a much broader more that's, that's the comment. certainly late breaking news to this morning. but is there a isn't pack moving tens of thousands of troops from jobs up to that northern border of atlanta? so there's, there is, they're making all the right moves that would have his, by level, even ron,

to whom, behind since by law, that israel is, in fact preparing for. that's your question. um american diplomacy, american, the american administration has been very clear that israel will not be able to achieve militarily what it has been unable to achieve diplomatic rates that are more would bring only further devastation on to northern israel, given as well as or minimal arsenal of rockets and you a fees? yes we talk much. is that so? so far about out israel has been able to successfully establish escalation dominance. how has been able to penetrate is by using its superior intelligence capabilities. but since paula is still the most powerful non stage actor in the world and one that's how message capabilities to shape. so the american administration here differentiating itself from the as rarely position i was in the room last week when i'm of hochstein, a president, biden's and boy on this very issue was having arguments and making the case against

israel brought in this war. and i think the fact that he had to travel to israel earlier this week and that this attack literally came on the keels of him, the party, 6 volumes of the kind of daylight that we're seeing today between the american position. and he is really position. i'm on it's not uncommon, is it for the israeli government to carry out considerable attacks, whether it's in gaza, whether it's 11 on elsewhere on the beach and just off the american officials leave as well after a visit. we've seen this time and time again given everything but for the us has said about has bowlers capability being probably the strongest non state act to in the world? do you believe that as well does want more was has bala and how did people 11 on feet of anxious i cannot speak for what sort of government once, but it's very clear that the current situation,

the car and start to school is not sustainable for any of the actors involved in this and this conflict. so politically, the situation in the north of the 1st row is not sustainable, and it's not sustainable either for the populations in south lebanon, it's an area that there's no completely destroyed. tens of thousands of lebanese people are also displaced in the country, the flex, any kind of infrastructure. there are even now discussions as of today, the 2026 parliamentary elections and nothing on would it be postponed because of the situation. there are also question marks in loveland and related to the timing of any major authority escalation. will it happen before the november 5 elections in the us to force the hand of, you know, voters in the us, especially in case, for example, kind of the harris's pause, improve, or whether they wait for up with an or an action to contribute to potentially at the feet of come out of harris and, and have a more sympathetic administration in place. so they,

people are reading the tvs when it comes to what happened, what would happen. but what we know is that this attack further divided the lebanese people further, we can social fabric and 11 on the level of social media. this information that was spread, miss publicly minutes after the the, the attack. i couldn't get campaigns against the american university of b routes, medical center, which was hosting for hundreds of the people who were one that was being attacked by a social media campaign, claiming that they got rid of the page years themselves for the doctors in order to avoid such an attack as using to the fact that they knew something about that which was complete faith can use. it also was accompanied by a huge campaign to southerly remove from social media, every single kind of picture, an image that came out of the attacks yesterday, while other segments of the police population works kind of celebrating. what was,

what happens to a group they believe was responsible for assessing nations and not been on attacks on the syrian people. this climate and 11 on there's not one but with allow a country to sustain any kind of additional crises. definitely not a large scale or yeah, it's really interesting that you were saying that this has further expos divisions will lead to divisions and the social fabric. because i was listed the liberties health minister earlier. and he was trying to say the exact opposite. he was saying how the time health care sector, although it's private, how it was on the to look after the thousands of injuries united. you know that it was a nice in fact it ended up in not calling the again, the attack itself. i'm on, i'll come back to you in just a moment, but i want to ask what your thoughts are on again the attack itself. is it a war crime given the indiscriminate nature of the attack, isabel could not have known that who exactly who would have the pages or that they would be no civilians around when they exploded. and yet they decided to carry,

we think, as well as carried out the attack. i guess it's a legitimate question i'm, i'm not an international lawyer. so i'll leave the question of more crimes to, to them. but certainly, any time, some of someone plans in attack where there's a high likelihood that civilians will be killed, that's certainly something that would qualify or be eligible for scrutiny as to whether or not that's a word from your, your right to point out in a sense were harmed including children, and that's the conversation that i'm having with a lot of folks. but i guarantee you the best, not the conversation that's taking place and tell what we were jerusalem, where the focus is likely on the quote and put the success of the attack. and again, is this a kind of afraid move to something broader? we'll have to wait and see and has always made it clear that it will respond. in many ways it's forced to respond right because of the operational security or the

opposite of this group was compromised. so significantly, it would be an embarrassment to not respond to this would expose as well as we of the, the truth becomes threading that needle where it has less response doesn't kind of further escalate and feed into the cycle that goes beyond just tit for tat. and, and results and something more of a broad. yes it, as i know, you know, you was saying earlier, how hezbollah as basically damned if it does. and then if it doesn't, it's so hard to get the exact calculation. right. and, and how it responds. but i also want to talk about as long as the lack of response so, so far, at least after the assassination of hamas leader is mind. and the input on, at the end of july, has that involved in israel. would you say there's no doubt about that, elizabeth? so i mean, i think israel is sort of looking across the chessboard. you're in the middle east

and the message that keeps coming back time. and again, escalation, escalation, uh, from israel is that, oh ron and people are just not ready for on hold off more. or at the very least, i do not have a preference for ron for 1st appoint israel, a 1000 cuts at a time rather than a delivery. i'm not taught below to it. it understand that it cannot deliver on the laptop below that is your own is militarily superior. and so therefore, a uses. this is variety of a non state accurate these most in groups throughout the region in line in syria, interact with these am and to again come israel, a 1000 cuts out of time. so time and again, we see iran pulling back from the branch. it's about pulling back from the brain and therefore we heard disappear, leaner on only recently, talk about the importance or the legitimacy, a tactical retreat. at times when you're strategic, you're brought us a key to objective is,

is in danger. so why don't we owe that pace for the current choices that you alluded to the data to do in dance? if you don't have valuable, take a different path. the us administration has put forward an offering to de escalate the situation. a diplomatic, all right now has by that are on have time and again, stress that they want the ceasefire in gaza 1st before the agreed to the american diplomatic initiative, it would cease and follow withdraw a certain number of kilometers off the as rarely. ready or is there a would also vacate some of the 13 disputed lines along the border with lebanon? and so there really is a passport for diplomacy. here we don't know yet whether based with the current array of options and by level to chase to choose to take that off rap. i would suspect at a very minimum, it will have to undertake of concepts some form of performative action, the state, okay. and again, our hope is that the positive lucy will open their act. i'm on with what's it saying about a possible diplomatic, off ramp for hezbollah?

is there any chance that they would do that given that they have said they will not stop their attacks because this is about as well as on gaza? the remains a very strong doctor when it comes to communication at some point. if they decide to agree to a certain the prologic solution, they wouldn't find a way to sugar coat to, to present it, to their audience. they did it when there was a maritime dealer related to you know, the off shore and oil and gas, you know, exploration initiatives in the mediterranean. it's kind of happen. the most important issues for us are how we sort of any society would be able to cope with what is coming. because you mentioned that earlier, while of course, the medical sector behaved so and such a noble way and professional way, the pensions wrong, extremely deep. nobody is ready, nothing is ready for a major escalation of the conflict. and that any room for the,

for the magic solution must be, must be photos, perhaps the level of damage that yes. so there's a fact inflicted on his bundle, but also on, you know, our publishing run and loving on should be an incentive for a diplomatic solution. but at the same time, there are different parts of the conflict, the level of pressure that should be placed on the nino whole government in order to you know, restrain some of their most extreme. this tendency is, is essential. otherwise, not only the pay the price, the entire region would be in a much more difficult situation. very, very soon i'm calling. we've seen that the us is not willing to use the leverage it has with as well. just stop the war on gaza. but a war between as well and has below would be much more destructive. do you see it using the leverage? it has to stop that conflict. i often question how much leverage the united states does have over as real. now circle the question that when they give

millions of dollars in a to israel bush, maybe i'll refrain and say they're not really do you use that leverage? you're absolutely right. and there are things the united states could do, but politically, especially in the end, the year of the presidential election. they're not going to do that. the other piece of this is, as you pointed out earlier, israel conduct these attacks as soon as the us diplomat leaves, as an american citizen, i find that in raging. i think it's an embarrassment that oftentimes the as rarely as act as the senior partner in the relationship danielle who are coming and giving speeches in the us congress criticizing or right to protest. so i'm often offended by the way. it is rarely behaved in that relationship. i wish the dynamics were different. but i don't think any politician is willing to, again, 7 weeks out from an election. uh, you know, start taking those steps. unfortunately. do you think calling that as well does

want will, would, has paula? i think benjamin netanyahu might want more testable. i'm not sure the idea for the israel and people do or i, i am afraid we have run out of time, but i want to thank all of i guess for this fascinating discussion. that is, i'm on the honda for the us mark sounds and call and clock. and thanks you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out as a dot com. i prefer the discussion to go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on x. a handle is at a inside story from me, elizabeth put on him and the whole team here, bye for now. the

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