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at la, from mr. volk, attacked the united nations high commission of human rights. he made the point that it was difficult to conceive how those attacks on his bullet could consume with key principles of distinction and proportionality on the international humanitarian. let's discuss this a little further with kristen salumi. she's at the united nations in new york. you uh that there are lot more speakers to come in the coming hours. but let's just talk in a little more detail about why this meeting was cold by the united nations security council and, and, and how is your assess the mood, the as you mentioned, it was called by algeria in response to the targeting of communication devices across the lab and on, on the 17th and 18th of september. but when it comes to the mood at the united nations,
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i mean to say that there is growing concerned about regional escalation. it would be the biggest understatement to put it in context. this is the 4th security council meeting this week on the situation in the middle east, the 4th one. and that on this one is happening on the heels of an historic general assembly resolution that called for the end of the illegal occupation of the occupied palestinian territories. we've had the spokes person for the secretary general today referring to the situation as being on the brink of a catastrophe. we heard from the under secretary general for peace building, rosemary decarlo. during that briefing as well. talking about the risk couldn't be any graver to the region, a special envoy for syria at another meeting earlier today on the, the middle east focused on syria, pointed out that those attacks on communication devices had happened to them syria
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as well, a much less known or reported factor of this conflict and she warned that syrian civilians are now in the cross hairs of an escalation of a possible war. so uh, what we are seeing is again just this growing concern and theres been concern throughout this conflict that it would spill over into other countries in the region. and not the concern has been expressed. but when you have day after day, morning, afternoon evening, you see all of these various factors at the united nations, un officials, ambassadors groups of very is regional partners coming to the stage out and talking to journalists there are you see that there's a real attempt to keep the focused on this, there's not a lot that the un can do to stop it directly. so there's just a lot of focus on what's happening and continue to calls for calm as
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a way to in the eyes of the international community pressure the players to come tensions and attempt to keep things from spilling over even further. okay, so now kristen is telling me that at the united nations in new york, we will of course, return to some of the other speakers, other and best, se, noise nations. we are expected to hear from united states and china as well as united kingdom. in the next few minutes, we will return when those countries are speaking, as well, like the emergency united nations security council session was cold. uh, and it cooled for an immediate cease far in golf. at least 13 palestinians have been killed in an is riley strike on the southern most city of rough. uh, 3 children were among the dead. the a time targeted to houses in the mess, but area of northern rafa, especially for palestinians,
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have been killed and is rarely rates on the goals and strips in store on friday as he now from turn assume his enduro bother with the latest on those strikes. the secure, it's a situation and gods is getting much more intense in the course of the past couple of hours where the is, but it only has been hitting old areas across because a straight. but the main focus was on the southern, on a little bit part of district where to residential houses were destroyed early, at least 15 palestinians, what killed and there has been more concentration on targeting residential buildings. so in the north of the territory was here in the central area, we continued to loud explosions of the eastern side of the 3 and the portion of under the rocks. we could you tell me that is too close to the record to the situation is getting much more value the course as well has been wrong because it's mandatory strikes on how to send in vehicles that have been useful transportation
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among palestinian gold. renee's of the same time, people here don't know, great concerns about the escalation that is taking place and living on a trip precautions to a, to bring pressing spite the achievable with the use of an interest to pros, in the military defensive to include the phones and to ramp up mobility, the pressure on has been lost, which can really be a very dangerous escalation, alarm signed if this chris could add it to the minister. my name is re, for the region it for the re, for the entire region is specifically that type of city of sleep that each will have the efforts to get a c spy it to you on the ground topic up as a i would do 0, they're worried about i had a small or okay, let's go to rodney curry's and distinguish fellow at the american university of beverage. he joins us now from boston. many things for your time, ronnie. we've just been listening in a to that united nations security council emergency meeting where need is have
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assembled to discuss the situation, the escalating situation in lebanon, and the tensions between as israel and has paula and i, i think it's, i wanted to get your opinion on on me, things like this by the un security council, because i think it's 5 to say when it comes to stopping the war in gaza. the u. n. c and its members have shown themselves to be largely and effective. and of course, we all now clearly as a critical moment when it comes to what is happening in lab and on, what does it do you think that the international community can do now to stop things from guessing any, was from escalating any further? it looks, it leaves a international community, it doesn't really exist. it's not like a, a formal football team or a political party or anything like that. it's a collection of different countries around the world and working through the united nations is an imperfect process because the united nations,
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along with other institutions like the world bank and i am of these, were set up after world war 2, by the winters of world war 2, and have basically become instruments of the western powers to preserve their power on 2 quarter of the world in a way that suits the western powers. so there's a lot of beautiful language them expectations about pages, some justice, a peaceful resolution of conflicts. but the difficult thing is that the 5 permanent members of the security council included western powers for the veto. and therefore, any resolution that the us or the u. k. or fresh a russian or there's like a they can veto it. so you have the american government basically setting the tone for the western countries of the in china and russia come in and out. but
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it's mainly the western veto is the block, the security council from doing anything significant collectively in the middle east. and this has always been the case. and even when, when the security council resolution is passed is not vetoed to say, punched in while the us of stance. this happened right at the end of the obama administration. there was a resolution in that you went about the settlements being illegal. and the us of state, and then there was a kind of a signal from john kerry and obama, of the us really wants to be involved in a more fair resolution of the conflict. and not just support is really a aggression and, and talking on, you know, in the united states, remy, i apologize for interrupting interrupting you. because we can now hear from the united states at the un security council. let's have a listen to what they have to say. we're inevitable. but the act, the actions various actors taking the coming days will once again determine how the
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situation evolves. it is imperative that even as facts a merge about the latest incidence, in which i reiterate the united states played no role. all parties refrained from any actions which can punch the region into israel and his bullet prior to the masses, brutal terrorist attack quiet had largely been maintained along the blue line for 18 years since the adoption of resolution, 1701 in 2006 the stability was shattered on october 7 and 8, when israel was attacked without provocation, by non state armed groups in lebanon. and for the past 11 months, the people of lebanon have suffered devastating consequences of this conflict. which is not their own. more than 100000 lebanese civilians and more than 65000 is really civilians have been displaced. civilians on both sides of the blue
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line is seen their homes destroyed. and it feels and orchards burned. his blood, which received extensive training, arms and financing from or on took these actions in solidarity with them. us not for 11 and 11. these people and for the past 11 months is bullet, has continued to bombard communities and northern israel on a near daily basis. again, and supported from us in iran, brought our campaign to threaten his realty, as well as sustained attacks, presence along the blue line. and entrenchment in southern lebanon, also put, is really in liberty civilians at risk. israel has a right to defend itself against, as well as attacks. a no member of this council facing a terrorist organization on its border would tolerate daily rocket attacks on its
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territory. and the displacement of tens of thousands of its people. we expect all parties will comply with international mandatory law and take all reasonable steps to minimize harm to civilians. especially those intensely populated areas. continued escalation of the violence across the blue line will not create the conditions for displaced is really and lebanese civilians to return to their homes in northern israel, in southern lebanon. rather, the united states continues to believe a diplomatic resolution is the only way to create the conditions for this place. lebanese and his really civilians, to return to their homes with safety and security. and we will continue to pursue this goal. run through it sustained supply of weapons and personnel to his bullet in blatant disregard in defiance of the call for this argument in resolutions 15591701. and in violation of the latter is legally binding arms. and barto
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appears to have a different agenda. over many years, united states has committed substantial resources to monitoring efforts and living on and supported independent institutions, such as the lebanese armed forces and internal security forces. equally significant, the security council is clearly and repeatedly expressed is desire to see the full authority of the lebanese government extended throughout lebanon's territory. and it has emphasize its strong support for the aspirations of the lebanese people to live in peace, free from foreign midway. every member of this council has a responsibility to help evidence. people avoid further strategy as to support diplomatic efforts that would help restore come along the blue line, which again would enable civilians in southern lebanon and northern israel to return to their homes. and to also press iran to seize it's,
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this is stabilizing and dangerous use of his bullet to undermine regional security . in a way that puts the lebanese people in danger, this is the path toward great original stability in the united states will continue to do everything possible to support the escalation and didn't during diplomatic solution. thank you mr. present. i think that to present that this of the united states for their statements, i give the floor to the present the chief of china to heat. well, guys here are right now, jerry is requesting this meeting by and welcome the presence of the needs foreign minister, mr. optima booth i people who are listen carefully to the briefings by u. s. t to call low and high commission, the full cost of the new york. next 10, thousands of communications deposits. thing 11, including pages and 2 way radio is designated remotely and simple tenuously
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explosions. cost thousands of civilian casualties and china p a by register has profound stock and great concerns about this development children playing industries last a eyes. modest shopping seems to come. mike has had that seems maimed. talk to us on the way to work well critically injured. these i'm of the highlighting seems of distressing beyond imagination and remote satan detonating communications devices. hopkins indiscriminate attacks, coasting mess, civilian casualties, officers and $900.00 in society town. this is on hold off the history a certain shumate. this act is without a 1000 and the gross violation of a country sovereignty and security and a blatant breach of international law, particularly international humanitarian law, is not at that time post on human lives, weight uncomfortable kind of as soon as the attack score. so outreach as the brutal
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and atrocious start date is of nothing less than condemnation in the strongest terms. so fox and no one has claimed responsibility for the said attacks, but to different policies have come to more or less the same conclusion as to who didn't do what you call for a prompt, for the investigation, to hold the orchestra, you test and implemented to account content right down the situation in the middle east is how names and bias right? is relas millage operations in cause us to own going, which have already claimed more than 40000 palestinian lives. meanwhile, face rel is both a heightening the tensions around his folder, which letter that we are informed by some analysis, that the reason for late fee execute attack attacks rec for casa to major military operations. when we have also taken note of the latest statement from the hesper
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law leadership, we are deeply concerned about the possibility of the subs escalation of the tensions between 11 and the as a result, we quote on the parties to exercise maximum restraint and court on peace really, in particular, to forego this obsession with the use of force and to halt without delay. it's my initial impressions in the cause of its violations of 11 and sovereignty and security. and is adventurous and told that the roof are tracking the regions into yet another data stating catastrophe shown is we strongly urge when the countries and we think runs of israel to take technical steps to stop israel from go even further down the wrong path. we support the security council and taking all the necessary actions and doing already come to ease the situation between 11 and just rail and to maintain peace and stability in the middle east. thank you president. i think the representative of china for the state friends and i'll give
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the floor to the presented to 1230 knighted kingdom. thank you president. i think you will see the color and high commission, the 3rd for the brief thing. this pos, here as in continuous and devastating violence across the region. civilians have suffered on the dreadful sco on both sides with the blue line, the explosions 11 in this week. and israel strike and southern favorite today of the latest. and thirdly cycle of violence. and we are concerned by civilian casualties resulting from those instance that children were among them is particularly distressing. our condolences guys of the families of the civilians killed my phone check female of euclid at last night. we need an
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immediate cease for on both sides. we are working in lock step with our allies to de escalate intentions and end this destructive cycle. we want to see the implementation of a political plan based on your end security council resolution, 17 o one which allows both is riley and lebanese civilians to return to their homes and live in peace and security. we are ready to pay our road in a diplomatic process to achieve that president. let us be clear since the lowest an unprovoked kind of going through on the 8th of october, 2023. since then, israel has, has faced and then they need badge. if it's below rockets, we are resolute in our support, as well as right to defend the citizens against such threats. however, in doing, say, international humanitarian law must be fully respected. an old possible steps taken
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to avoid civilian casualties. liberty says because aggression has been fueled by wrong and its continued continued the stabilisation, the middle east, including sort support to partners and foxes. one supplies advanced weaponry prevention, multiple security council resolutions, only prolonging the suffering of the lebanese people. well, here's the wrong, continue to undermine evidence. future u. k is providing practical support to both the instability and security. this includes funding and training to both the lebanese on forces and internal security forces, as well as humanitarian assistance. developable communities, including in the south of living in the president. now is the time for com heads
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and an urgent focus on an immediate cease fire to create the space for negotiations . thank you. i things that are presented to fault doing that, taking them for their statements. i give to the representative of the trance, which you would mister president. i think madam, the carlo and mister turk for their briefings, and i wish to welcome the presence among us of the minister for foreign affairs of 11 on friends is gravely concerned following the explosions of telecommunications devices on the 17th and the 18th of september and living on the risk of open war with the potentially tragic consequences heightens with each passing day. this is the prospect that needs to be averted at all costs. and so there's an urgent need for all parties to work towards the escalation resolution. $2749.00 adopted on the 28th of august to renew unit full of
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mandate clearly calls for this. this resolution calls upon all stakeholders to adopt immediate measures to de escalate and demands the full implementation of the framework recognized by all, namely, resolution, $1701.00, including the restoration of a complete succession of hostilities. these resolutions must be complied with by all to that. and we call upon we demand that these really authorities exercised most restraint after their recent declarations about males here operations 11 on. we also recall our demand for it has belonged to immediately sees its attacks against is rarely territory. and there is lastly, a vital need for all parties to meet the obligations incumbent upon them under international humanitarian law. specific believe you said he, the protection of civilians, friends has so persisted in our efforts to identify the conditions by an agreement
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and to restore association of hostilities along the black blue line in line with resolution, 1701. and to ensure the safety and security of civilians, both in israel and to love it on. thank you. i things that are present at the forefront for the statement i get the federal data presented to fall from was on be a smart tv. yes. is this uh, so just a, just a reminder. so of yours we just, uh, watching the united nations security council uh live that its, convened an emergency meeting to discuss the is ready side. the terror attacks on nothing on that is claimed the lives of. and he says he to lebanese people, including children, as well as the age of thousands of people. we've heard from various speakers over the course of the law style, including algeria, the united states, china, the united kingdom, as well as from let's discuss this further. with that and how much our last raise
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and media studies, professor video institute for graduate studies. you've been listening in a to the session to the emergency meeting uh with me. and i could see uh when robot would the deputy us envoy to be nice sedation started speaking. i can see that you were quite upset watching him and listening to what you have to say so. so it took us through the highlights of the various speakers is particularly the united states. so what did you think of what he had to say? i mean, no surprise that really. right. and, and, and if anything, it was just me expressing a lack of lack of surprise, it was out of the us playbook. i mean, he used all of the familiar sort of troops. he located the problem with how may i ask them? because the law, he completely met israel off the hook, it was extremely one sided, and he said the attacks by her mouth and the 1st block on israel have were
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completely unprovoked. he ignored all of the context. he ignored the worst in apartheid conditions in the west bank. you ignore the occupation. he ignored uh the, the uh, the, the, the see john gauze or the block. you know, garza, which is a crime against humanity. i could go on and on and on. but he ignored all of that, of course he called a mass on his belong, terrace, us. and so basically what i would say is that anyone who's expecting kind of a different tone from the united states was, was in for a kind of a rude awakening. it was, it was really more more of the same. he did not mention israel's aggression in gaza. he did not speak to the legality of what israel has done in lab. and on this week, i thought it was interesting that multiple speakers did speak to that. we heard that the distinction, the principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution,
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which are bad rocks of international humanitarian law, were ignored by israel. obviously, if you are exploding pagers in public spaces at $230.00 in the afternoon, it's well known that civilians are going to be killed and maimed. i and you, in your rights, a number of countries, including the united kingdom, france made that point. but when it came to the united states, again, they pointed the finger at has bullet for that they said, what, what, what is always, as well as defense that has brought us hiding behind civilians. right? as if the hezbollah members are, are supposed to lock themselves away in some hidden corner of the earth and not go to grocery stores. i think we should underscore, that they were not on the front lines. they were not fighters, they were or they were not fighting, and some of them were not even fighters. so even that is a violation of international humanitarian law. you cannot just target someone who is a member of the military when they're at the grocery store with their children,
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for instance, right. and certainly not with an exploding, a pager or walkie talkie. it's interesting that the department of defense, the us department of defense explicitly prohibits this. right? so you have, on the one hand, the us government, prohibiting this. on the other hand, you have robert wood and other representatives this week for the us almost cheer, leading israel for their sophisticated intelligence and so on and so forth. i thought it was interesting that multiple countries, including china and algeria called on countries with influence over israel. and this is a clear reference to the united states countries with influence over israel to finally exercise that influence to put a stop to this. one of the things that robert would did not mention is that there were multiple serious ceasefire resolutions proposed, which the united states veto in the early months of this war. he did not mention that, of course, because that does not fit the us messages or israel narrative right messaging. so
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certainly it was interesting to listen to but it was, it was nothing surprising him. and one more thing to pick up with, which i noticed uh, a number of the un investors talking about the implementation of resolution. 1701. give us a bit of context. uh what, what, what, why is that important? yeah. so 17. 0, $1.00 is the resolution that would basically end of the conflict between web and on, on israel. this was proposed after that the 2006, the 2006 more. right? so it calls on it calls on both parties to and hoss doherty's right. but again, the issue here is that the united states, because i believe it was that all me quoted was mentioning earlier. the problem here is with the basic structure of the united nations and the united nations security council that you have these permanent members, the us being one of them,
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of the security council that have veto power. and so if there's anything that they don't like that contradicts they are foreign policy objectives or one of the objectives of their allies like israel, then they can, they can veto. so sadly, i don't think that we are any closer to a cease fire in gaza or a resolution to this burgeoning whitening conflict between his beloved and israel. so what do you think uh, me, seems like this achieve, i mean, do they at least highlights, you know, the growing tide, if a international opinion that is going against israel, at least over the course of the last year, we've seen that change happen. we, we have seen it certainly global public opinion, particularly if you look at the global south countries, right. and they are the majority of certainly there is a tide working against israel. they're all boxes, right. it's a,
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it doesn't matter and not pass. it doesn't matter. but one of the problems with a meeting like this is because it highlights the security council and because you have, you know, france and you have the united states and united kingdom. and all of them were featured speakers here. so you end up, you still end up with a very um, uh you kind of getting mixed mixed messages. i don't think that this is an accurate reflection of global public opinion or global support or lack thereof for israel. i think over the long term israel is going to have a lot, a lot of difficulty, particularly as these young people in western europe and in north america become decision makers. they are the ones in those countries who are most likely to oppose is really policies around me were just closely approaching the top of the i just want to squeeze in one more question. if i can, as interesting, we're talking about the narrative that continues to come from the united states. on the one hand, they talk about how they are trying to achieve a cease find the region and bring about
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a piece in the region. but then interestingly, even, even today, uh, during the course of a media conference, when you, as president joe biden was asked about what was going on in lebanon and his response to what was happening. he made the point uh, we are continuing to trying to do and as we have from the beginning to make sure the 5 people in old and as well as well as 711 on able to go back to that homes. i thought that was really interesting way to frame his response, given everything that's happening 11 on the fact that he was echoing, israel's will go right. that it's made a point in the last couple of days to add to it's to it's will goals, right? returning people back home to northern israel, why would it, why would he put it like that if he's trying to de escalate the situation in the middle east or it doesn't make a lot of sense? in fact, what israel said the other day that they're going to escalate and therefore,
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