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color that run james bay's israel talk. it's the alger 0 media network. yet again, this time in the occupied westbank during a pre to on rate on sunday, the mercury issued an order to close the channels bureau in ramallah for $45.00 days. these rated government is already banned out as they are from reporting within israel. and with no less often is bombardment of garza, the military is also expanding operations in the occupied westbank and across the board until 11. and there are also reports, as well as planning to issue mass evacuation orders in northern gauze, a similar to what it did in the 1st week of the war back in october. what's the real object to behind this plan does is rel, intent to revoke, to probably cause or permanently will go to our guests in a moment. but 1st, this report for the foot of your call, the heavily armed is ready. soldiers faced resistance from only cameras and microphones when they tried to silence. i'll just there was reporting in the occupied the west bank. well, how the ice carrier saw this is
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a decision that was made by one of the is really generally see. he is ordering us to immediately leave the office and take our personal belongings and cameras. a judge army says we have only 10 minutes to take our belongings and leave the office so they can shut it down. the, the office will be closed for $45.00 days. the closure of all the zeros bureau in ramallah follows the band imposed on the networks operations within israel. back in may. it's the latest crack down on foreign media and comes as these for any government is facing. growing criticism is that it has no rights, legally speaking, to close any office and any place in india, a or b a yes, isn't that? and that means that is right and has practically eliminated on your own or any other sort of deal of competitive and also to team. and we added back to the situation of fun. ok, patients every week, hundreds of thousands of his ratings of protested and major cities demanding prime
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minister benjamin netanyahu agreed on a guy's a ceasefire. deal and bring home the roughly $100.00 cottage still held in the strip. but the prime minister has rebuffed the pressure at home and abroad, instead insisting on his ready control over all of guys his borders. now he faces pressure from within his coalition. the carrier would cut them mind to ethnic cleansing of palestinians. the so called generals plan proposed by senior military officers would see these really army besieged north and gaza. from the next room, kara door upwards. about $300000.00 palestinians are clinging on to what remains of the area. those who don't comply with the forced evacuation orders will be given the choice to surrender or die last month. nothing. yeah. who orders the military to prepare to take control of a distribution in the north? the district feeling fears that israel is planning a long term occupation,
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which would possibly include the construction of a legal settlements. it is rarely forces, are battling a mass and sites across kaiser, exchanging fired with hezbollah and 11 on and carrying a major rates in the occupied westbank and the government under prime minister benjamin netanyahu does not appear willing or able to de escalate. during one of the biggest crises in his writing history for the car, which is 0 for inside story, the a. well, let's discuss all of this further with our panelists today, who are joining us from doha. we have daniel levy who's the president of the us middle east project and a form is writing the go see a to in, but then it's lee is maryland rappaport and award winning is really investigative journalist. the recently reported on site was indications that israel may be planning to close off knowles and concepts. and also here in doha is a long pop pay and it's right to historian and also of the ethnic cleansing of
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palestine. thank you all 3 of you for joining us. i want to try and in this program to get what is the real plan of nets and yahoo, what is israel a me now almost a year into this will. but 1st i must start a little bit closer to home. alger 0 is office in, ramallah has now been closed, and i'd like your reaction to that, daniel, why do you think they've taken this step now? because they've done, unfortunately, they close together 3 strands. we have seen, not just throughout the last year, but for an awfully long time, which is criminality met only by impunity. firstly, secondly, the media and this is more of a phenomena of the recent period. how much he's read. this targeted the media. it doesn't long story to get out, so he gets out anyway, whether or not that's linked to a more destructive campaign. in the west bank, we shall see. they have announced that there is a rolling campaign of destruction. that's going to go on those of my ways of
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describing it, not as i'm sub lee, that it's all these route, right? so when they passed legislation, the bands i, which is here, it is right as far as that is that romano, the west bank, the entire policy and expands is the one states reality of great to race route which they have created. so let's, let's follow up on that because under the olds, low accords promised and you didn't get a state but they got control of certain areas. romano, where they out is there a bureau is right. buying in the center of romano is area a. it's supposed to be on the full palestinian control, the license out as it was, office was issued by the palestinian authority, has israel any legal rights to close the out to 0 office? and if not, does it prove that there is total cool occupation now an apartheid in the west bank?
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i think the, the, the also called should not be regarded as a binding a document. and the also. ready is a statement of what is web can and cannot do and is done. you know, the comment that deserves literally cannot do it is of the 1st time that is when operates in the room. i love it is the ok by empowering the model and therefore schools. it's a shame to say that there is an independent palestinian authority there that controls every aspect of life as far as these way lead security forces in the army is concerned. they can go in and out whenever. ready want and do their whatever they want. so i think it's less about violating the ultimate goal and much more about the 2nd thing that you said that already was now just been stated by the international gold of justice. that we're not just talking about a few patients. we will not be beyond hope. you're patient. this is not an area
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a next to these well integrated into is when the rules through the various meetings of control. but it is totally at the mercy and the domestic visit. in other words, control that on you, all the journalist on the panel. so i'd like your reaction, of course is rel, always claims. it's a democracy. it has the freedom of speech. freedom of the press, really of course, doctor, we got what we got for the senior. um and i of course i understand what, what uh, what to do then. and then it said about the non existent uh how strongly maintenance in vacation you said it is acting in twisting freely. uh, but i think what has to be mentioned this year is that the fuselage really
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from the beginning of the oil and gas up easily then you're comparing against me. you're not the only a 100 man i've seen in germany. sweat killed and done so, but you said prevents international here on the news from duty and from coming to the headset. and this is on purpose. they don't want to see. and if that means shutting down be or dizzy or offices in the matter, so be it. okay. well, if they don't want people to see things in gaza, is that also daniel? the case in the west bank? we've seen the biggest operation by is route since 2002 this month in the west bank of both you and elan are at a conference organized by georgetown university here in bo. i was that really wrong speaking to some people in that what, what rates among people i spoke to about what israel has plans next for the
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westbank. do you have fears to yes, and we're ready in the throes of that. we've already seen no significant operations from a security perspective, so much as significant operations in terms of the level of destruction of school stuff, including a bike limb for structure that have been conducted in the past. the northern west bank into comp, i'm jeanine and elsewhere. and the decoration they're not hiding, this is the, this will spread through all the pots of the west bank. the ball we have here, i think is an intention for this to be an ongoing opening, more in gaza, very likely in the north, which we may discuss in the west bank and whether it's the displacement of palestinians from dogs or, or i was still using the west bank, whether it's making the be conditions, i'm livable for palestinians. this is a part of the plan that lives in closing down on the out just the or offices,
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a lines very neatly with that. and it is also a message to the well where there was an overwhelming majority at the united nations general assembly. of course not including the us, one of the few states to vote against adult. take the measures gold for the optic. elation of the international court of justice regarding the data to you'll be occupation regarding to the ocoee responsibilities and israel, i think you said as evidence, nothing it knows to international law a lot. and i mean we, we know life is already incredibly hard for palestinians who are living in the west bank. do you fear that israel may be trying to bring some of the gauze conditions to the westbank? yes i, i do feel that i think we have here uh 1st of all. ready uh, an important political falls within these way. the government of, uh, new design is in the ceiling. uh, petitions who hold the important positions in the government who regard the
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current situation as in a window of opportunity to implement their uh, let's see how they can send that. they get ideas of having a great to visit us on the river to the sea with us, you buy this thing is as possible. so i think a possible to be seen even if it sounds environmental, and yet not totally drastic. and it has as people with a vision behind it the. ready the westbank is the next stage and they've got a fully implementing these kinds of let's see, i think i d is a lot of the psych them you have the, the policy makers in the are means and the security. so there's that already in the past. a did not offer anything else, but wouldn't. ready seasonal. ready thing to use mobile phones and the human these . ready shows that by this theme is in the west bank is a lot different from the do one. these ation of the above the stands in the gaza
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strip. and there will be no more of an emission in the way that they would try to crash any resistance that they will encounter where they are in the record. you can see on the city themselves. so i'm afraid that the 700, the more than 700 brothers dean who died already. these are the same as a look at over. uh, a is not the find. those numbers and the destruction we've already seen is not defined. those pictures of what is when a can and intended to do also in the west bank. and we have to remind them show your view as uh because they're watching a 0. they know. ready that as well as the settlers and the means are. ready the, the trading as new cleansing operation is in the south of model type or, or any of the other pods and fuel cells and other state as an already lost their homes. and this is all done in this kind of a read you a partial kind of operation compared to best. but i think this is the intention and
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the ideology behind it are the same. so daniel, do you think there is a possibility with this current is really hard line government that they might actually try and push palestinians out of the west bank and out of east jerusalem possibly push them into jordan. i mean, that seems a very far fetched idea or would have done a year ago. but is it now a possibility? it is hate declared its intention on the part of part of the government that palestinian should have a choice either get on board with being 2nd class citizens known citizens in a pop type reality or find your home elsewhere. i don't think at this stage that we should look at that as a false match scenario. it doesn't mean that yeah. loading people on trucks tomorrow, but that's, that's a terrifying prospect which we,
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which we should it was. i don't make litle. i think at the moment it's about the grading conditions, making things as hard as possible. ready for palestinians that is the direction of travel, whether it gets more dramatic. we've seen that assets in gaza. but what we also seeing alongside that even though israel has the international backing, even though this is not just israel is. ready that americans will, we will see the resilience, allison young people, them luncheon big. ready of that either, either even if you have a ph. d to ship, which is long preemptively give it not on palestine, you're right. you have a very resilient palestinian society that resist. i'm the holds its grounds and it shows that foster. so it's not going to be easy. okay, well, i'm turning to you met on because you've done some interesting reporting and presented a scenario with regard to gauze. now we've heard a lot and talk about the messianic ideas of some in the comment is really
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government tell us some of the proposals not by government members, but some of the proposals that are being floated by permanent figures in israel about what to do in gaza. and you will be on a possible scenario. there's one major plan that was presented by the ex. uh general. um deal island was adults to actually switch your teeth. come so that previously he suggested that it is, well, we'll declare a mountain god saw a closing to terri area. uh, tow the tree hand, the towns and cities may be more of a student in the dollars to their to leave within a week and wireless. and afterwards,
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those who will remain uh will be, uh there will be happy to pay the total paid and even to make them dying of hunger. now he is saying that the see goes according to international because of david's, the civilians at time to leave guys that he doesn't mention the state can be to the end. this trend was adopted by many ex journals. today we'd given her the even the time you all set up being a close to meeting that she is considering this plan. now what i asked, and i usually do to get an answer, but so not so she put that the code and question. what will happen if some, oh, most of the 300 times in the scene,
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you refuse to meet with the state? will they be a star to that will be very little there. be designated as well. ok, professor. that was supposed to be plan that suggested uh, this is a question. so i think the visa does not have an answer and i'm afraid this is to allow you to quite easily may happen to daniel, how would that sort of scenario? cutting up a gauze ceiling of northern gauze and making people leave northern gauze. even stop and surrender policies. oh, stop. oh, surrender policies. remember that was what the west was so critical of aside in syria and of the russians in places like very helpful. how will this be seen if israel proceeds with the sort of policy is by western governments in the us 1st,
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james, less just of knowledge that the deeply racist colonial mindset on the pending based kind of thinking which maryland has explained to us some academics of written papers on this, you know, the format of the national security council, whomever on quintarius, and he goes into great a depth in his article. what we see here, this whole language should be seen throughout a training is really, it is a civilization against the brutes. this is this language not 19th century racist secular colonialism propagated with 21st century technology. i'm not saying is rosie of the races state. but most countries when that saying that stuff don't drew trans county, they code it is rather power. he doesn't really need to do so, which seems to be all set your question james, which is where now almost a yeah. an an off the criminal acts conducted against his race. if he gets on october, 7th, off to those acts is really need to. it didn't wait
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a day even to state its intention to violate international law. we hold food fuel, water, electricity from the power steering and civilian population. it made clear that it would make no distinction with that's the big in population and it's gotten away with, i think we should be, we would be not need if we would expect that the american legs reaction on america runs a heck of a lot of diplomatic political, military, and economic to come up for his route, we would be naive if we were to expect that reaction to be differently. so all we're going to see not only the mobilization which see taskbar, but all we go and see others mobilizing to prevent it. but again, i would say these room is not wanting to dean dollars that this will not be easy to implement. in fact, he's really stuck in a united authoration. that is a good amount of attrition which does not bode well for the struggles now, which was uh, showing up when they all pulled up,
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how much has not been penetrated and infiltrated as he's the law has suggest seats is read, has not succeeded in dealing to a normal trunk from a garza from so the schemes may exist. it's horrors will continue to be visited upon palestinians in golf. but israel's ability to win this, the i did the be strategically will be, is really the long term. the idea that it can get away with it is the palestinians . i think those things should be questioned and i think the answer to that question will not work in favor, always really not last fall restored to terence in gaza. i don't think it will, and that might be part of the reason we're seeing some of the actions. 11. well talking about 1111 because we've talked about the west bank and gaza already as an eminent historian of israel. i think you'd probably agree. israel traditionally was
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very with read of a multi one from pool, but does the current leadership of israel actually want that prospect? whether the govern government, a visitor says a loaner has a prime minister who wants it, or he needs a war. and he believes that with all the war, his own political career isn't a status. so definitely the main policy makers always related ones that war he doesn't even share is afraid or is that an escalating or that might be original. secondly, i already mentioned he's a new met, neal scientist must see on a good allies also what was a war? the military that probably wants to have more control and the situation is that new mentioned they think i kind of talk to the uh realistically that they can win in one. ready and then the other frontal and wait for them as it's already been
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proven. it totally. ready here, so yes, you have here and political and military lead the ship that uh once the war. but once it to be very much on the terms that is what needs used in the past for winning was and this is whether it is what he's going to fade into, is going to fame visibility in the box that were very quickly in the 3 conditions. that all of that, these really minute to read kind of commanders and leaders believes in. the 1st principal was that you have to take the initiative that's over the last. the 2nd principle is that the war has to be full in the enemy's territory. that's the most happening and certainly. ready you cannot survive a long war, and that's a very long war. okay. seem kind of coming to the end of the conversation. now, a daniel, come on, i'm leaving it as a foot a, but it seems, is a footnote,
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which is diplomacy. we're talking about all of these military options of diplomacy, a prime minister, nothing you all who goes to the un in the coming days of the world leaders will be that the you and is pushing for a strange and diplomacy. briefly, do you see any chance of a diplomatic opening at this time given everything that we've discussed? nothing yahoo does not have an outcome that is not militarily driven, no 0. some of that for that leaves no space for diplomacy on israel's pop. unfortunately, the us is closed off. i've been use of diplomacy codes that pop by mirroring shadowing. every is really moved by moving its own battleships so that it puts itself deep in model has a bit it could get pulled into before just when it is october. last month
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before a us election, i'm not saying that's what's driving israel's intentionality. here, look, i, i bought a big 1, point one. this. israel has clearly degree gauge the, his ball out capacity. in some ways, it may feel that it can now move forward with that box. the question is, how much of the hit will be is re the whole front taken response. because the idea that the axis of resistance is on its last legs and is almost due to free to i think he's for the but i think we've seen that already. i'm bet he's a strategic patients on that side. yes, they've taken it. there's a strategic patients on that side and he's really is not going to win in this way. i need to eventually savvy. it seems like we'll learn to help with so matter on how dangerous do you see this moment? not just for israel and the palestinians, but for the region. a very dangerous moment that there's no doubt i came
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to snap tiers here. if he's really wants a full blown more with his butler dripping on, it's not clear. i'm good, good contributing signs here, but it's really, it's quite possible that this is, is a contention and therefore be on the verge of very, very serious development. to me in danger. behold me the least not only the palestinians is uh, the sort of several different knees. uh, maybe uh far beyond that. uh, this is very tricky because moment. yeah mary, can i just move the way uh, looking to the other side. uh and. busy we are a piece t we the people of the region by webster loan, and this is not to go to the site and i go to and well,
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thank you very much. the 3 of you for joining us on this rather depressing conversation today on the inside story. a daniel levy matter on that wrap a pool and a laptop, a comprehensive coverage all across the region continues around the clock on out. just bear with detailed analysis too, and i'll phone up or alger 0 dot com. what did you make of today's discussion? what should we focus on next time? let us know on facebook at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story, or twitter this on x y. you'll find this at a j inside story until next time for me, james, by he's in the team here. please stay safe and well, bye bye. for now the a little or no reason. the minister from bangladesh,
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with 360 homes in britain, jerry looked down. you spent 200000000 in just a new you tank has vanished point. and the only thing you might want to say, i mean, how does your investigates the ministers, millions soup kitchens in origin, tina i showing the impact of precedent have you had any laser intensive austerity policies, millions of people, you know, i didn't seen, i depend on the food bank and soup kitchen like this one, it's just an example of beach economic hardship that people are facing this days. got a lot of in those runs 3 soup kitchens and when a site is late and does not care about poverty, the don't know the reality. i requested some milk and they take it as an attack. the government says there are signs of economic recovery in the country, but among those coming here, those signs are not visible. and many feet or their situation. we get even worse
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from his narrative to media was from propaganda to the changing face of journalism . i have never seen lead media consensus change. so questioning what is reported and what is not. the videos further reinforce a discourse. it is coming out of every sector of the as rarely, official machinery. they're all palestinians, are the enemy finished and the post decodes the media or that just the colleges? the midst of how much is happening before
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the end of the question. why is the name of this call your mind? it's area. i'm really foundation the hello inside of hired us in the top stories on al jazeera as well as long as the powers of rockets towards northern is round. the group says it targeted multiple sites and israel says it car down to around $400.00 a tax on southern another known since stock today of to noon the us than you and of ones against uh, the escalation. do you and special coordinates is 11 on has issued a statement on the cross border conflicts saying with the region on the brink of an imminent catastrophe. it cannot be overstated enough. there is no military solution .
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