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that i think the dream has overtaken the night by the on the box and of how the top stories allowed is there is there any ministry is again, carrying out numerous strikes across towns in the south from 11 on. it says targeting has been less sites over the past week. the 2 sides of exchange, some of the heaviest, 5 since october. and we're on con, has the latest from march of year and, and some 11 on as well around $630.00 a. m. uh, probably uh, probably sorry about 430 g m t a we heard a number of strikes. i actually counted 10 just in the vicinity around me. uh these
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really um, he says it's mounted intensive strikes this morning is really fight is launched and dozens of airstrikes in scots, of areas in some an east and loved them. now into woods, about 80 kilometers from a root strikes had cost. casimir. and those who are, we've seen the pictures from that they seem to be very large, strikes, also towns across the southern living on board, including zabeda and the l table. now in the back hall region in the east of living on base, these really all me say they hit all know be terry, are some still a good i lose a very concentrated ring of towels in the because these are the army spokesman has actually been speaking he's is urgent issued an urgent warning to villages 11 on. he says, if you're inside or near, a building used by hezbollah to still weapons will come, come by equipment, you must evacuate the building and move away from it. immediately anyone who is near has below, elements of weapons is putting himself at risk. there
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a fee is the escalation and violence can spread to a wide, a conflict in the middle east. that's something the us says, it's doing everything possible to prevent his national security communications advisor, john coby. we believe that there are better ways to try to get those as rarely, citizens back in their homes, up in the north, and to keep those that are there very safely then award, then an escalation, then opening up a 2nd front there that border with lebanon, against his but we still believe that there can be time and space for diplomatic solution here. and that's what we're working on. and gaza is ready for us as of killed at least 8 palestinians. and overnight strikes will plain spawns the house, and the jabante refugee camp in northern casa. these are the ministry also attack central gaza shoving at home and darrow by killing 5 palestinians, the and another, and most right, refugee come getting 3 people. is there any forces have arrested thousands of palestinians including children and the occupied westbank that happened in the town
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of harris in the side of fits? israel has run the top of tax interest in the territories since this one guy is a big guy in october. as being global condemnation, after these are the soldiers stormed down just there was bureau in the occupied westbank on sunday. they gave soft, i just 10 minutes to pack my belongings and leave. the office entrance has been welded shots and the ministry is ordered as closure for 45 days. trace of o spoke to the legion foreign minister about the move and he says they have been many instances where israel has undermine general this. and the lord has me quite a bit that the journalist detects everything is being undermined by governments because we have seen in the augusta war one of the most extreme uptake herself uh that that are listed on top of everything else and just like a minute terry and workers on a workers, it's important to have a particular ad. it takes particular care to allow their lives gunderson to work. so i think this is boring to undermine the very practice of journalism that
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concerns me. everybody has happened. so it's not only in the us on the west bank, but we have seen some uh, some strong examples of that there. and that's where it is made of. the 1st is supposed to left this politician to be elected president for like us history as being sworn in, nor kamala this an ica one the election on saturday with 42.3 percent of the vote. he's promised the roots of corruption, improve lives and bring to justice those he says, rump the country. hundreds of travelers have been stranded in south africa, often unusual snow storm hit the cause. the natal problems. officials say at least 2 people have died of hypothetically, also being trapped on the road from to 12 hours. those but headlines and use continues here now to sierra. i talked to the bottom line, stay with us for about bye for now. the
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a. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. why does the u. s one advocate of have permanent seats on the un security council? but without vito power? let's get to the bottom line. it's one of the most debated questions in the history of the united nations. why do only 5 countries have veto power over all decisions at the security council for almost 80 years? they've been at the top of the food chain. china, france, russia, the u. k. and of course, the united states, the world has changed since then, but the un security council has not decades ago, the p 5 or the permanent 5 is they're called, decided to allow countries to joint as rotating non permanent members with no veto . after all, the security council is the most powerful body of the un,
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with the ability to impose sanctions and to authorize the use of force against countries. and now washington is talking about creating permanent seats for 2 african nations, but get this with no veto power. why and why? now, today we're talking with the kind of the home bori qual, former ambassador of the african union to the united states and bassinger. it's terrific to have you back on our show. i want to start with a film clip of the us and bastard of the united nations, linda thomas greenfield. let's listen as it stands. they are currently 3 non permanent seats on the security council allocated to african countries on a rotating basis for 2 years. the problem is these are elected seats down in april african countries to deliver the full benefit of their knowledge and voices to the work of the council to consistently lead on the challenges that affect all of us. and disproportionately affect africa as that is why in addition to non permanent
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membership traffic in countries, the united states supports creating to permanent seats for africa on the council. it's what are african partner seek? and we believe this is what is just about her. she, him, boy, let me ask you on a scale of one to 10. how enthusiastic are you about the proposal that being bassett or has just made? i think it says step in the right direction. however, keeping in mind that this issue has been on the table on going for like you said, it's a 2 years. if we are going to write the wrong way, kind of, we just write this wrong ones. and for all, if africa is going to become a member of the un security to cancel a permanent member, they must have the full rights just like the other 5 members, which means they must have 0 power inviting africa to the table.
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and then asking them to the main mute. it's an insult, not only to the african leaders, but it is an insult to 1400000000 people. we appreciate what busted a greenfield is saying, we appreciate the efforts she has made. but if she is going to complete this journey, is jenny that has been going on for far too long. a jenny that clearly exemplifies the continued disrespect of african clinton and invested in greenfield. the must push for us to take this issue to the finish line. africa might have to come in and says, the un security council would fool veto power. not seeing less is acceptable. and i do believe that the united nations understanding how long this issue has been
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going on, how long the disrespect of the african continent has been going on. it is shameful . that united nations would want to continue to blatantly disrespect to the africans by inviting them to the table. but then saying, sorry you can eat, you can only watch us play our games. you can watch us enjoy the 10 plus male. what just what installed. and i do hope that the african leaders, i'm not going to accept it, africa must be at the table as a permanent member of the un security council. and the 2 sits must have veto power, plain and simple pdf. do you think? ambassador thomas greenfield doesn't understand this. do you, do you think? what do you think is be behind this offer when you said, hey,
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you appreciate the progress she's made. we do know that this was a promise or a commitment that president joe biden is trying to fulfill before the end of his term. but do you think they, they are not aware about how controversial it is to create permanent seats without votes? because they know what they're doing. so again, that's where the disrespect comes in. they know what they're doing. they know what the right thing to do. it's no, we do not want to dilute our potential power. if we gave 2 more seeds with victim power, no, we're simply saying this slice is big enough. the world is bigger than 5 countries are presenting over 7000000 people. we're simply saying, serious roles haven't been perpetrated against black people, yet is an opportunity for prison biden. to write this wrong. this is an opportunity that we can not miss. africans must be at the table. 1.4000000000 people
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must be presented, the continued disrespect of the africans as got to come to an end. so we're asking for it then by then and his running mate. tell me the highest, well, hopefully within the next president of the united states, they will write this wrong once in football and about the victim as greenfield. we understand, or the one that you have done. please. as a sista, as an advisor, that we're asking you to take this issue to the finish like permanent positions under human simply to console with full veto power. like as a 5 piece, i see that china and russia are enthusiastic and do support africa's position on the security council with 2 permanent seats. but i have not seen with a bait, wouldn't i actually agree to giving the veto to african countries as well as your thoughts? well, normally, like most issues pertaining to figure out what i've found is that the united
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nations usually so they know united nation the united states usually is defined on say, in the united states is going to come in and say we support 20 africa being on the us to get it to come. so with phone get the power, i can assure you, the other 4 members will follow us that the united states in the united states decide they do not wish for. i forgot to have veto power, it will not happen. but in the night, just as decides, they do what i forgot to have the to power as a country, i'm pretty sure will follow us, that one of the things that linda thomas green field, the impassive united states you and said it about her resistance, the giving more countries have vito on this is it, it would make the council more dysfunctional and it made me wonder whether any nation should have a veto power. is there a model in the future of united nations where we suspend veto power for all countries and we go to majority votes on key decisions. so it's
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a full i find that that's very common, very cetera insulting. yeah. simply suggesting that the addition of 2 african countries is going to make the process dysfunctional. what an insult or is this particular situation where tilting a country like germany. if we're talking end of the year, european countries joining as members of the un security council with victim power, would she still find it as it moves that we entered just dysfunction or is in the introduction of to black african countries that is problematic. what really makes it very sad is that the voice is coming out of the mouth of a black woman voice. those words are coming out of the mouth of an african american who must understand such a language cannot be used. but typically when we're talking about the international
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platform to suggest that introducing to african countries look into it just as function, it decides it is disrespectful and it will not be tolerated. as that to him as being filled. really needs to be checked those words and should need to explain himself to say, what do you mean this function? exactly. how are the 2 african countries going to enter just this function? unless, of course, the entity has already been this function. uh would you like, in my opinion, is the case and that is what is the problem with the united nations is a dysfunctional entity. it is a, i took this board dog and they need to do what day monday to do by the world. so yes, no after day is not going to enter just any dysfunction. it'd be like the nature of the entity itself has been disposed to know may be an addition of 2 african countries. might change, ended up and create some normalcy. and for
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a change at the end of june, that's going to truly represent people of the world as it is right now. it, is it relationship? it, it is an entity that was designed just do from the developing nations. and as an entity it was entire pep was see and plan and reason for being created was just just due from developing nations. so let's be clear. if we are going to stick to us to power the us to create the council has been dysfunctional, main dysfunctional until it is an end of the team that truly represents the whole world. at this point, the un security council does not represent the world. so yes, that should be ashamed. it is a dysfunctional entity that may be in the inclusion of other nations, might actually make it less dysfunctional. let me ask you to, to respond to martin kimani, who is the former king and ambassador to the united nations. and he writes,
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how does having one or 2 african countries with veto power further collective african interest by the time, africa, tears itself, a part politically to choose those 2 countries, a fight that will be gone by global powers. we will end up with deep division, possibly in perpetuity, u. n. s. c. reform must be preceded by major african union reform, your thoughts and reaction to that ambassador t home board with all due respect. i disagree with the brands uh uh severely. i think i must be in the tables. we must be where decisions are being made. we must be in a position to also disagree or agree on global issues. yes, well, i understand the dysfunction among us as africans and african union. i always say this, that at this point we don't have the right leadership in the african union. and i'm
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hoping that with the new elections that are coming up in uh, february of next year, we're going to have an african union chair with the head over their shoulders. right now we don't have any leadership in the african union. most of 5 key has failed. that sees the purpose of the west. we all know that. so yes, i agree with you on one end that we do need reform in african union. the good thing for us is the elections coming up with stuff i key is going to be gone. and i will hope is we're going to have a new shipment of the african union will understand the issues and is going to the from the african union where it can through the rivers and, and that people, that is where we need, we cut out on home what to do, but that doesn't mean which is getting by the end of what unity to be at the table . so to just run off into that, well, we're dysfunctional in the african union, and therefore we are not going to demand that sits at the in the united nations
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security council. that's actually as cheap it we need to be there while we continue to do former african union while we continue to work together. and i can tell you that's a good lead as they work together. the issue is, do we have someone in african union? well, can implement and execute the wishes of the african union. they have a system event for choosing bon chapman of african union. it's on the rotation of basis. i don't see the african lead us having any problem deciding which 2 countries are going to be the 1st ones, but does use a similar additional process, right? oh no, i just, i agree with that on bus it up. uh seriously, we need to be at the table, but more importantly, i am so glad like most of our kids we me a and i'm hoping that the next a german of african union comes february. ready going to be a part of african who is good to spend up, defend africa, and representative the clinton is like we must be represented. right, demanded that. and i'm hoping that we'll get that to come february. if the united
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nations and the permanent 5 are more and more anachronistic, more disconnected from the way power is distributed in the world. and you know, we haven't even begun talking about india or brazil or other major states and their roles and the security council aren't, they are going to develop ways that you can get around the un that africa can have voice and power in other ways. why does this debate about the permanent 5 matters so much? what it's not as in this is that they need to be to representation and the united nation, the negate nations is not about 5 countries. the united nations is about all countries of the world. as a matter of fact, the united nations should undergo and reform a long time ago. so the issue is about having an entity like united nations that is controlled by 5 countries with other countries have no voice with the other countries. the 5 count. ready congest veto, anything they don't like. i mean, it is so unfair. the fact that in 2024 we're still discussing this. it's, it's,
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it's just crazy that just goes to us. go, how insane our world is. so yes, what you're going to see is the global sounds coming together. that is, this is this kind of behavior that is leading to the formation of the brakes. the global world say the global south saying we have been asking for equity. we've been asking and demanding equality intuitive presentation in the global stage at every level b, e, w, united nations, be in the financial system, has been with the world trade organization as well as organizations the most of the countries that constantly being from done and, and so it's going to lead to another system that's going to be created where the rest of the world is going to say enough is enough. we're tired of your entities that are not you presenting us so to the united nations and the rest of the western world, particularly the, the,
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the 5 nations on the payment. and so you have to console. they also need to see the writing on the wall. and realize that the world is changing. the world is more aware of the geopolitics and what's really going on. and many voices as picking out as to the wrong that must be righted. so the sooner they address this issue, the better of the world is going to be these abusive situation. where the less developed countries are being taken advantage of. and being dictated to that is not going to continue to work any more. and the p 5 nations mazda c and the writing on the wall and do the right thing started with africa. and then other countries like india, brazil, they to need to be and they need to be presented because they are presenting millions of people. so you can just have 1400000 people in india being voiceless.
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so yes, up to africa, we must bring india. that's it. that would be my suggestion. and slowly, getting more countries right now the united nations, as it stands, it does not represent the world just as using other countries to come to the united nations. so they can say presence that yes we would, that is actually, i have been saying this for years that if i could influence the african leaders in any way, shape or form they need to boy good attending the, the united nations general assembly. there's nothing there for them that just coming back to validate at the people's issues. so if i took, i was to really speak with one voice. they needed to boycott the united nations general assembly. there's nothing there for there for them that just costing taxpayers money. having right, it doesn't come into the net dimensions for what you know, don't come to the light, the admissions tell me. and i did mention if you don't fix this, if we're not members of the signature because we're not attending on the plain and
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simple, but unfortunately they're not going to do it. if that's what that means to have the bundle. advertising is different from what you know, you've been working for a very long time. and you know, since we've known each other to really unite africans, their purpose, their sense of identity and to end and diminish off born control and dominance of african states. and i guess my question to you in this moment and when again you're, you're on the same mission, what's getting in the way, what's getting in the way of the audit kind of t home board emission to en, dominance of africa to empower applicants and unite africans i think one of the biggest problems intelligence that we have, i also say as black people, not only black people in africa, but not people around the world. we wouldn't defeated weight much as the most, which is the mind. i am going to say this honestly and sincerely and some people may not like about it is already already went ahead. african governments that have some members of the governments who are on the payrolls of, for the nations,
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were absent friends were willing to be in for was to be bought to be paid in order to get the rail. not only because they are the agenda, but also agendas of their own country is development. you tell me why is it that we have ministers of simon's will come to washington twice a year to discuss issues to do with funding for uh, for africa, financial issues for africa. why haven't they come together and took that position to truly challenge the world. but didn't say v 0 is that to continue to make us pay and been paid for, does indian times they were in the apply. and i'm encouraging everybody to read the book constructions of the economic cabinet where they talk about exactly how they would for this country's accepted busy mom, that's loans. it was all a game at the expense of the african people. i want people to know that. but why, i'm se sending up and pushing back and putting a spade a spade one,
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we have some that are on the pedros, or for the and government, and the age of the, in the government, themselves shim on them to. we have some that i just did of those will don't look like as again as part of the legacy of colorless vision and the legacy of slavery. we have some serious feelings and do as africans when it comes to our minds. no other men on earth. in any industry position would turn ever in the abuse the africans, i told the rating, blinking abuse. so a bigger issue is the mind our ability to spike. but our men's depending up in the men, like the men around the world. a lot of it has to do with some on an individual basis . green does is just in mind too afraid of white people. we don't want to speak up in meetings because we have friends who will be labeled it's, it's the mind and the end of the day for me. it is the mind that was defeated and
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until the mind is a walking and the mind is the atlas and the mind mind simply says what's right is right. what is wrong is wrong? come to the united nations, charlotte in the united nations. go to the world ban charlize the what about with sparks and knowledge of what is really going well. call these nations out. tell them just double abuse, which is belated. this nation that website into how you did the abuse, the abuse is blake. and so to the africans, i say spend up, have a bug board and speak up. and for those in power, people appointed you into position. so you can represent ended up being for enter the people i say to the a friends if i need to is not is ending well, vote them out. yes, we can tie or being misrepresented by. i will need to. she brought them out,
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if they don't represent you well, at the community level in your country, run them out and they're not just sending you well and the world stage. the fact i want people are not empowered. they know the games that are being played by the west and well, by the eastern world. they, i tell him, do i need to see if we don't want it any more? so we have monday, lead us. that's going to spend later. that's going to speak up, they just you that's going to say do and of is you one that on to you, our ask is, applicants is a very simple one. we want to work to teach as the way they would want to be, which we did. and i would need to ship, i would need to our march these, we expect them to speak up. we'll expect them to defend that by any means necessary . what do we need? i mean, does that work in your lives and are ready to defend africa like day away monday to do by the people. thank you. well you've said expectations very high. we'll have to see how that plays out. i want to thank the former and boucher of the african union
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to the united states are the kind of to you home break. wow. thank you so much for being with us. always a pleasure. thank you so much steve. i appreciate it to keep up the good work. so what's the bottom line on paper? it just sounds great. the us wants to make room for african and other nations on the un security council. but here's the rub. nobody gets veto power except the original p 5, the united states, the u. k. rush of france in china. what and out data and anachronistic lineup of nations. where's brazil? where is india, where south africa? so this obsolete version of power is kind of like a slow moving train wreck, stumbling into the future. future with the big 5 have less and less relevant to the way power actually works in the world. instead of being the architect of a new global order that brings in the new rising powers and decrease as global dysfunction, america is clinging to a power arrangement from nearly 80 years ago. knowing full well that this arrangement is getting weaker and weaker. and one day it's just gonna follow over,
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you must evacuate the building and move away from it to immediately. anyone who is near it has below elements of weapons is putting himself.

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