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or even the that on the such a reservation area. then with the status of the in the middle of the year that inhabited by more or less $1000000.00 people regardless though so have been internally displaced. so the invention to civilians is very obviously that as long as think this is when these red ones saw adopting this dr. in from now long because they've started, they open it up with 4 to 6 speed to complete the on the ground. and they will not pull back from the alarm because it's something that they had initiated in this whole. they've done that in the south and then the big valley against the homes because of a lot with the entire family. but they did not go to target and massive civilian area as they have done in 2006. i think this is the beginning of, of a long roll and not getting because um many people in many area they know the area
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where the, the so called is off, has been law. and normally they are, they are living in the face that is the concentrated area. and this is why they going to go and target them because now the all new moves and this will elijah, be good to talk to you a bit more actually fine too very much for now for sharing your insight with us solution magneer, security and military alice joining us from brussels. let's now get the latest for my white house correspondent, kimberly how good she joins us from washington. kimberly, how is the bind in administration likely to react in light of the fact that benjamin netanyahu only just in the past few hours, rejected any possibility of that being a 21 day c, 5 previously proposed by washington. and now this is massive series of attacks and they route as well. the white house has not yet officially
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reacted, but one can speculate that this is only going to add to the already strained relations between dividing administration ad is real. it is now the latest flash point in all ready difficult relationship, given the fact that the white house, as you mentioned, had just already been optimistic that this was going to be a turning point in terms of the possibility of their proposal for peace in terms of the cease fire proposal of $21.00 days for further negotiations for something that would be more lasting and permanent to allow for at least a dst solution on israel's northern border with lebanon. and so that they could also even start could to consider the stall process with regard to israel's war. i'm dogs, of course, that's something that's been in the worst for 10 months and,
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and seems to be going nowhere. so we've had some reaction from the us and bassinger to the united nations, linda thomas greenfield, who says that the united states has consistently been working for almost a year for a cease fire to allow captors to be returned at assistance for the palestinians. and for 11, not to return safely. we also know that the u. s. president joe biden, who is not at the white house as we speak. and in fact is attending a private event up in scratch in pennsylvania. that is his hometown where he grew up. he has been raised on the situation in lebanon, and is certainly abreast of it is continuing to get developments. we presume we will hear more from the white house or from the national security council in the coming hours. but again, the fact that the buying administration has been helpful had been working very diligently on the sidelines of the you and jet little assembly all week with teams
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of diplomats from the united states working with their counterparts, it from israel trying to de escalate, try to avert a broad. a or middle east conflict now, so only see this kind of rhone in their face with another escalation from israel is certainly not going to sit well. but now america in the position where if, if the situation does escalate any further, they will inevitably be dragged into a role because actually lebanon is also an american ally, as also have been the recipient of american aid. but to the same time, washington has made its very explicit that what israel to end up in an all out will with has bola, they would receive a unconditional support from, from their american ally us. and that has always been the case with the
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exception of a very, very rece uh, has that station if you will. uh, several months ago when the us president temporarily halted a shipment that was destined for is real only to subsequently allow it to to go when there was some concern about this being used at all civilians in rasa. this is the only time we've seen sort of a brief hesitation on the part of military aid to israel. otherwise it has been unconditional for decades and, and the most recent re, supply of a military aid is in the tune of almost $4000000000.00 annually. and military a to is real, that comes from the american tax fair, whether or not the american tax parent raised with that is another thing. and in fact, we've seen that very much a shift in terms of public support, especially in the last year as we've seen these protests on college campuses,
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especially with the younger generation who is not in support of unconditional support to israel. and so this is going to leave the bike and administer fresh and in a particularly delicate position, given the fact that the vice president comma la harris is now at the top of the ticket for the democratic party. jo biden's party, as the us selection is now imminent, it is less than a 2 months away from the november 5th election when americans will be voting. and this is not going to be helpful for comma le harris who is trying to win the white house for the democrats, for hoping for a nother term. given the fact that there is an entire generation that knows nothing but more. whether it's israel's wars or the war in afghanistan, they do not want to see if there's some norms for fatigue. and this will certainly be something that will be very unpopular so well the by the ministration has said
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there's unconditional support for israel and us support for israel and its defense is iron clad. there certainly is a difference of opinion when it comes to ordinary americans and very quickly, i should say one more thing. even as the united states says that the diplomacy is the answer and that they have been working on the sidelines as the un general assembly on the very same day that they said that yesterday, thursday, they also resupplied, in addition to that annual billions of dollars for 1000000000 are almost an annual a to israel. they tossed that out by another, almost $9000000000.00 just yesterday thursday to make sure the israel was able to keep its what they call military quantitative edge in the region. so not to coincide with calls for that to be a ceasefire between hezbollah and israel for now. thank you very much. white house correspondent kimberly allocate reporting to us from washington. well, i was,
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is there a senior plesk honest motor ron bouchard joins me now from london? and the more one is israel looking for the pretext to launch a ground invasion. i'm not sure it does need that pretext. a certain they've been prepared for one anyway. and i'm not sure it needs to be fixed or do anything anymore. to be honest, clearly the time of excuses hasn't come out and they continue to do more of the same. and the, the key word here is more, more or the same what they've done and guys that they're doing and, and nothing on. and we started off, so it goes up and on. and clearly they are acting was totally infinity. and clearly they don't care for the reactions or implications or run the vacations on data uh, bombardment. so the around which is like your neighborhoods are, there's additional neighborhoods that are godless,
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here on the pretext of whether they think somebody's are living or, or what came under them or not. uh, what you've seen from the is there, the government is bomb. first. explain or talk about it or, or popularize it later. and in a sense, you could say that the bombardment that has gone on for about why not couple weeks couldn't have been seen in additional to the rigging and just anything. all of thousands of communication devices can be seen as a prelude to a lot of the vision is usually a good way to prepare for the military. the vision is to attack at what they consider to be combined and, and bases and, and, and dropped, decline shows and, and so on, so forth to but, you know, there's just taking the past week into the account, moran, it, there is, there is plenty, no comparison between has valez capabilities,
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thousands of its members have been injured recently. live the leadership ranks of stuff with a, a pretty high desktop as well. so there's not a comparison between them and the ministry supremacy of israel. and yet, when you, when we reflect on how hezbollah came into existence, the seeds of this was shown in 1982 when israel invaded lebanon in order to rid the country of the palestinian of the palestine liberation organization as it was reflecting on that yes, absolutely, what is this dealing with nowadays in terms of how much and has been like this is the fruits, overtone, occupations, and visions and all kinds of wars in the region. how about central they just as after 20 years of occupations of north bank and gaza and east jerusalem and major correct down and oppression. especially in guys that we mentioned that to
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the rise of how boss, especially with the 1st 75 though the same thing for his mother that can become and what it is today, i'm organization uniformed as on so forth after the 1982 invasion of love and on and it's continue to grow with uh, the israeli occupation of soc, they've been on that, went on for 18 years. so there is no doubt that is right. uh has been uh, in confrontation with the fruits of its own actions in 5 seconds. and that's why when we analyze the situation by today and you see the hot or is that and bravo and guys are never non, we say wait a minute, but hasn't anyone learned? i need lessons because this would also be the field or this would also be the roach to something else. and that's what they've seen in the region now for you know, 75 years or even a center of the systems. scientists movements came into existence,
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which students created sort of these, oh, uh, you know, the trust of line to the bottom means assassination actor and so on, so forth for many, many decades now. and each time we entered into a new so i couldn't find so that'd be something we say. oh my god, this was the, you know, the worst thing where a rubber seed we've never withdrew something like that. and then we went to something even worse. i'm at the same with the same breath and we came up, you know, i'm gonna have to start reminding your viewers of their speech and every time we speak um i yeah. and that's the fact that it's also becoming a bit of a petition, a bit of boring, sickening, tiring listening to the americas denying everything. right. we don't know, we've got the information. oh, my god, what happened and never know? and we went to the sci fi, that's kind of a, that's kind of a game, right? that's kind of a, it is something that is just the regular one around the world is becoming a bit packed, you know, try it again. the sense that i skipped but we were just supporting for washington. i mean, all gave it to 1000 down bombs who get the 1000 pound bombs will give the 500 down
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downs to is right. as it was getting this general side in and guys out and as it was started and get that back and never, and on. so when the administration gives is, or once and again and again, the 2000 palm bombs. and there's the runs out of which ones out by bombing, what does, what do you bonding guys about schools of hospitals, universities. and it was mentioned both things under the pretext of, uh how my son has been, i use uh, you know, human sheets and all that kind of crap that they continue to, to do repeat, as you know, non stop and the amount of patients will be thing after that, so that we cannot distract the 2, right? so is your effective, you start to infinity, it goes from bad to worse from one of those to another law and it continues to can . it's drunk on power is drunk, infinity drunk on violence, drunk content, or gotten drunk and and addict g a map in the
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arms, finance. diplomatic, she goes on, so it's feeding into each other. okay. more want to hang around. uh, we would like to speak to you a bit more for now. mironda shara, in london, one of ringing zayna holder because she is actually in dia, in baby route, at the scene of the attack. what have you been seeing zayna marian, we have just left the da who's that's so bad with southern suburbs because we were not able to go live. we were told by security on the ground to leave the area. as you can imagine, the situation was, tends to save the lives of we are talking about a massive attack, multiple explosions that were heard across the lebanese capital. when we reached the sides of the attack, we saw smoke still blowing from what really was an area the total
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devastation of about $6.00 to $7.00 residential buildings are believed to have been leveled to the ground because of these strikes when we arrived. and you know, we have gone to the bay with southern suburbs on numerous occasions following is really air strikes in the past few days. and even the past few weeks, they were target to the sauce, the nation's not as big as this one. i have never seen an attack like this of lebanon, and i have been covering this country for many, many years. and i have not heard such a loud explosion. and i have been to many areas where there have been explosions. there were shock on the ground, even the security has been less securities, were deployed in the area after an attack like this were in shock. they were not just shocked. they were angry. i met one man who was crying and he told me,
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what are you going to do? what are you going to say? are you going to say the truth? and i said, why, what is it that you want me to tell the world? what is it? he said, i want you to tell them that we are people that we want to live. we do not want to die. that we have a belief and we have a cause. i saw dead children, this is what he told me. and you know, for a man who is a member of an organization which has fought numerous conflicts and voice with as well. it was very shocking for me to see this. and he wanted me any journalists to relate to the world that they were people and the people are dying. i can't tell you. in the past 2 weeks, we entered a new phase in this in this conflict confrontation war. definitely a war. i mean, we've been yes, as well as air strikes,
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intensive and expensive. have been targeting areas where hezbollah has a presence in warehouse as well as supporters live. but the impact is being felt across the country. people are afraid of and now people are asking questions on what comes next and zayna we are waiting for if it goes on the number of casualties because it's a very difficult catch, a kale take situation, there been seeing a cement that goes and of course, whatever resources they can deploy in the area, trying to, trying to sort through the, off them off of this attack. they love the lebanese health ministry is saying that 2 people, a dead and 76 have been 76, have been wounded. but this is just, i mean, these are just the, the figures that we are guessing because obviously given the fact that you have 12 explosions, an attack of this magnitude on this scale, on a residential building. i mean,
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these figures are probably going to be revised no doubt. so this is an initial casualty. so it is still too early to say, you know, the numbers and we still did not know what the targets was. we did hear from the as rarely army spokes person who claims that that what they targeted was an underground headquarters belonging to hezbollah. really, in the past few days, we've had casualty tolls approximate or nearly 100 a day in the past few days. now that's a very high number, this is a conflict that has been going on for 11 months now. and so they were talking about more than a $1500.00 killed and more than half of them in the past few days alone. and really there is a lot to fear, especially after those pager and walkie talkies explosive. they belong to members of hezbollah. whether those working for the civil institutions of the group or the
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military institutions of the groups. but i can tell you that day, you know, people were, were blowing up in the streets, the falling down on the floor, bleeding up on the ground. the children were watching the children were seeing this across the capital. so this is a very traumatic experience also for, for a population who, who really felt that ok, it to a certain extent the war has been confined, largely confined to the border area. but now its impact is being felt across the country and the see the southern suburbs have they really, really was not the in the equation. if you like. when israel begun it's intensive and expensive strikes on on what it says are hezbollah target's, they focus in the south of the country and the east of the country that's close to the border of syria. they've even carried out where it strikes north of babies and south availed with the southern suburbs of babe ruth was really kept largely out of the equation because as well on as well. have this equation if you like. if you
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target the baby with southern suburbs, we will target tel aviv. there have been targeted assassinations like i mentioned earlier in baby southern suburb, but nothing like this. so this brings in the question has follows next move. what will it be willing to continue with its military operations really, which have been quite paid really in comparison to what this group has been or is able to do. it has sent out messages that it has a long range missiles ready to hit a areas of deep insight as well. but, but it's also trading very carefully because it's knows that israel's military strategy is actually based on the doctor, the doctor in a doctor in which involves putting pressure on the civilian population. and they, in that way they believe this put pressure on has velocity. hezbollah did not cave
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in, in 2006 after thursday for days of bombardments. now this time around, some people may argue that hezbollah has suffered quite a number of set box. whether it's was from the page or, and walk you talk explosions. the, these assassinations of its top commanders, members of its g had the council have been killed in recent days and recent weeks. this is the, made the decision making body. and these were military commanders running the operation in southern lebanon. so we have to wait to see who the target was and what has well as next steps will be and what is really a dangerously choice. thank you very much, dana. it'd be good to, to talk to you a bit later on. but just to give you a bit of time and space to, to maybe get more information about what is happening that around you. and just a couple of lines dropping year. the united nation special coordinator in lebanon
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is saying that a deeply alarm deep play alarmed about the potential civilian impacts of these massive strikes on up a root southern suburbs. it coordinator and lebanon is cooling on all policies to cease fire. and just as that, they are very concerned about the scale of this attack. this is a, this is cited by the reuters news agency, the one special coordinator and lebanon st. now extremely worried about potential civilian casualties from the strikes the iran. i spoke to him about chicago, chicago, and the board of virginia palestinian refugee camp, which is just a few minutes away from where these explosions took place. she said, that's all to know that with 12 explosions in the area i was calling, i got home from work and all of a sudden you see if you like, imagine yourself among thousands of gas bottles and they exploded. all that's why this is, this is minimum of the found that you can hear when the bobbing address. um,
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as you know, the way it was in shirts. and i, and like there were a lot of screens i went on last cleaning. i still. yeah. and it was chaos up, i mean, you just have to get home, you know, because you wanted to somehow say and i wasn't good as i was going upstairs and somewhere smokes and explosions and fire and you just stand there wide item like what is happening right now and my mom them down as well, and you just, you don't know anymore. like, what do you want to do or what do you have to do? am i going to die now? it was, it wasn't, it was horrible and him, but you, you are now. i mean are you now at home? are you in a safe place? yes i am. it's not safe. i no longer say my home, it's safe because, you know, like literally we open like going up the stairs and you're just the explosions in
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front of you or bonding in front of you and there is a smoke plus so close. it's entered the house. and now we used to say that this place is safe or away from the bombing, but it's no longer safe. you know, you, you have no idea at any moment. you can just like it can happen to me as low as any moment. you know, can you just kind of take cause through what it was like when the explosions took place? because as we understand it, these were massive explosions and it was a successive, at least 5. it's just at least at least 5 explosions, which took place. they were trying to, they were 12, they, well, the explosions and, you know, i don't know how am i supposed to describe to you or take you into the moments of which i don't hope you've experienced such things. but you know, it feels like a it doesn't feel real, you know. it's that in the i think that i,
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i don't know how to describe it. you just, you just hear something is exploding and the house is shaking and they were never smoked everywhere. you know, you just i, i don't know i'm, i'm sorry, i don't know how to describe it to you that to make it imagine such a horrible moment. did you see any injuries? because of course we know this is a densely populated area, da, here, a collection of different neighborhoods on the oh, yeah. go ahead. yeah, it's, it's very populated. you know, that's the fund that they've gone. it's one of the, yeah it's, it's one of the, the places that are known to be heavily populated and zip of gather there for a lot of reasons because it doesn't, doesn't join only at the, you know, building depth of the civilians live in. but they, there are they, they are, yeah, of as stores over there people go there all the time and it's the store and it's
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just you that connects multiple, multiple streets together. so people come up, some places go through that way, you know, go to that street to go to another place. so it's very populated and it's very crowded and, and i'm gonna. 8 me, god help the people that are under the rubber right now, but i can't imagine the big, holistic ian. that's happening right now. and i don't go there or i, i by the way, thunder, because i was scared from another bombing that could happen. you know, because you never know what could happen is lawanda shars, elderly or senior political unless he joins me now from london. and some more want we have seen tonight alone, a very significant escalation in bay route in terms of the options facing israel. i mean, these bombing attacks could continue. i mean, the other thing i guess it could do is to become this kind of indefinite occupying force in more of a, in more lebanese territory. but it's not clear how any of this will secure
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a stability. you'll security to northern israel. yes, you are right and i'll tell you why it's very important what you just said. it's a complex of all conversation now as what's happening. what's on grab. ready and of our previous conversations about the nature of this, you know, what we, what is what has come to be known as i said, mitchell called warfare just quickly. what do you mean by us? electrical work that a significant more for it is when it's a war that's not conventional between 2 states. and then this victory, meaning that any quantity of forces between the 2 sides so big that the 5 different hezbollah fives in a way that is different from is right. how much fights in a different way that, that is right. and the, uh, the probably button for different to complete united states, the atlanta now julia, for the student to come to furnish the amc for differently from the south africa and so on. so for the organization where the, uh,
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where the. ready initial resistance, uh and so on, so forth. they fight in a whole other street, but quickly. what is the difference in the objective and, and that's how we should understand what happened today or what happened the last 2 weeks. and i've been on and by this thing is i have 6 to destroy how massive has about a mess and hezbollah do not cease to destroy, is the right in this i said mister can work it or what they need to do is what the family bond did that, i've gotten started. what day and what day, and see that in south africa and what the likes of the i didn't know, judy i against the french major situation, didn't fall honorable. make the situation on the whole for the occupying forces for the superior force, for the more powerful part, for effect amount, if it does not lose enough guns done. but the situation became and followed what
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after 20 years of war. they just put it when. and when funny bon would not news america, we didn't when the same thing and those you french gives more than a 1000000 as you get more than a 1000000 of june. but ended up last losing the war. not because it was bought and this fall, or for the alarm, because the situation, the court became understandable for the french and all julia and they would do something of south africa the end of the party. so for how much time, as well as a fight is not to win against this dread, let's get this out of our heads as well. i cannot, we may decide on the north, on how much, what they can do is make the situation, the security situation. what is the best advantage of what is it i think on the 3rd quarter to, for this population on 10 level, meaning as long as that isn't stand, go by the north and as long as the people that they love, you cannot sleep at night. and as long as the interest seek does not work, as long as they're at closes down, something like what sort of
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a small business is within a year. and the stores are more on the company and so on and so forth. if that continues to happen over the years, is that well, like other countries, perhaps come to the conclusion, but the situation is not the, it has to withdraw from gaza. it has to withdraw from the worst. that is the nature of it, and that is the nature of the difference between the objectives of deluxe, which has been on hold on and is there on does of all right, marijuana lashara. thank you very much. it's $1800.00 g m t o. watching al jazeera, just want to update you on our breaking news story out of lebanon. what israel has boomed a densely populated civilian area in bay root southern suburbs is ro release to statement the said that this was a series of attacks targeting has ball as central c'mon, headquarters.

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