i think it goes to sort of a sense of fear that people just wanna get out of that area and go anywhere else and find anywhere else that can be that they feel safe, which is incredibly difficult across the whole of level. at the end of this week, jude to these is rarely strikes. all right, that's the else is. there is a, i'm sorry, i beg your pardon for the hesitation. uh oliver. i am trying to listen to the same time to what's going on in new york at the united nations security council meeting, which has been adjourned. we were waiting for a speaker the lebanese foreign minister. okay. that means that meeting has now been adjourned. oliver, it's past one and where you are. we have entered clearly over the last few days, a different stage of this more lebanese people you're telling me or now, leaving not just down here, but leaving the capital. i assume some of them are going north as far away as they

can from the fighting. where do they expect this is going next? that's incredibly hard to say, but as i said earlier, it doesn't look like things are moving in a very positive direction. it feels very much like the israeli government has proof that chas away from the negotiating table. know that i haven't really sat down to that. and it's people moving out of a route, they're moving, know that moving to up to as chipley to decrease those homes are true. but the problem is it's not just within a level the people are feeling unsafe. i have had people telling me that they're trying to get slides out of this country. i'm everyone has counseling their flights, maybe pop for meetings, deadlines, and i have people telling me that they haven't been able to get a flight for at least a week. so this panic is not just contained in the domestic borders of level people just trying to get out on international flights starting to, to leave. so where people are going to go when this is where this conflict is going

to go as well, is a very hard question to answer. i know, you know, all of the marsden reporting from us, from a route that i understand there are no firm answers, possibly no answers at all to many of the questions i've been asking you this evening, but that's just the zone that we're in right now. so far more questions than answers at this stage of a marsden, thank you very much. that's bringing around the hoary life from boston, massachusetts. you're a distinguished fellow at the american university of edwards raw me. the day has ended in b routes, but the war continues. there with a strike just in the last hour and 19 minutes on da here in new strikes. right. excuse me, and pausing rally because we're watching the live shot and i believe what we're looking at right now is a live look at yet a new hit on da here. i know you can see it, but it's on the center of all our screens. and we have just seen a flash of light on the cityscape of da here, the 7th,

a suburb of the root that we've been watching life for quite a while now. so as a reminder, the last few hours has seen the following sequence of events. a massive strike on what israel says is a has block command and control center in da here again, down here is not a military camp. it is considered it has the last stronghold, but it's not a military camp. it's a suburb of a capital city, 700000 people live there. 6 to 7 buildings we understand from our correspondence came down as a result of that strike. if there was an untold number of civilians in those buildings, when they came down, we do not know yet what the real death toll from that strike was that was a couple hours ago. then we saw in the last 90 minutes or so another strength of which we haven't yet heard from israel. what that might have been and just live just now, yet another strikes. so it seems this is intensifying, and i'm now seeing i'm now seeing a fire clearly in the distance, and i, i don't know,

i don't know if you've got alpha 0 up as that is a very major strike around me. i don't know how much of this you can see. okay. okay, i got it. we're, we're watching. we're watching warfare live. there's no other way to put it. and is realize now hitting down here extremely intensely around me. your thoughts? well, i've been watching warfare all my life. i was born in 1948 and i spent almost all my adult life after college in the middle east by ruth amount and other places. but this is the most intense moment i think that i've ever experienced not only because of the, i guess a year that we have just experienced talary on the 7th free of that. not only because of the total fracturing and suppression of international law. i'm human

rights protections are new and resolution is by israel, completely, the whole post world war to order that the, the, the winning powers in the world war 2, the western states created to make a safer world. so there's never again would be another genocide or something like the holocaust and, and never have we seen such massive and human cool suffering of civilians as we stand in gas or starving children, a water or people for dr. capital. but we've also witnessed the reality and they mentioned he's a highlighted by her medicine as well, which is the, the model number of states order as a develop the have to worry about why nonsense today has been almost totally missing from this equation. they are in the countries the are leaders, the governments, the out of armies of all of them have been a kind of watching they're watching. and julia don't like everybody else. and

they've been replaced in the battlefield. buying on state farm packers large has about alone. how may i ask, i'm sort of low on the, on the popular mobilization forces in iraq and other places and many others all over the region. this is not to say that i'm sharing for, of a new military forces. i'm cheering for a just peace where all the countries and people of the region, including israel, palestine, and 11, the all of them have the right to live and save secure sovereign states. but none of this is as, as coming about what we're getting as a runaway is killer states as real killing and destroying and us. so those sort of thing babies on the do the nothing you know, go to the bottles thing, the killer mileage i'm, i like towards the, the arrow people on the, on the eastern side. not as they weren't. i don't remember the people on the

eastern side of them at least, and they were the traditional enemies of the hebrews and the bible tells them, hebrews to kill them, killed their babies, killed their capital, killed everything. and this is what the israelis have done with the army to go and kill the mileage, and they won't stop killing. but, and that seems to be the main thing. that's not the only thing that the as really, governments have been doing in the last 50 years, which is to use war sanctions for occupations trying to create substitute the phone, the little a government a soft love and then they try to get the west bank mayors to produce something to real louis back, they tried all these mechanism and jazz with i tried to get tribal leaders, they tried all these mechanisms which were all really just new forms of localized colonialism. and the is rarely designed as a management brought colonialism to them, at least in the late 19th and 20th and early 20th centuries. and they're continuing

to do it. they're continuing to use their military power, which is anonymous with a full and suzy aspect. backing of the united kingdom and the united states who are the 2 imperial power from 1917 until today, who have continuously allowed us to be able to do whatever it blocks. and this is what we're, we're watching where the countries are, are doing nothing and they can do many things they did in 1973 with the oil embargo . i remember that when i was in college. so this is, this is the tragedy. this is all for my state with a normal power, with enormous back by the west fighting a not state on movement large as well us and we don't know where it's going to go. we don't know as well as true capabilities. we don't know there a condition how. busy we have a been have they've obviously taken had but how bad that is,

we don't know that it's just around the business. if i can jump in. that's exactly what i was gonna say. um, i have no idea what i'm watching right now. yes, i understand what's on the screen. we're watching da here. we're watching 7 suburb of a room where hundreds of thousands of people live. we know that as the law has is entrenched in that neighborhood. yes, of course, we know all that, and we know the strikes that we have just seen in the last few minutes and they were very significant. and there is no way of telling at this very early hour. so, you know what the schuman cost of those strikes would be, and what the death toll will be. that's not what i mean. what? and if the question i'm putting to you is what's going on? you know, um, it's happening in the moment. we just don't know where this is taking us as well to or what i just mentioned. there's kind of a preference to the main point, which is that what we're seeing is the perpetuation of expansion of western sector

of colonialism. and militarism that implanted itself in the middle is what i'm sorry, and there's, i'm of the state of visit with the phone back and everything and period of hours. and there's no continuing to do which thing. and they only thing that this movement has done. and israel, the state of israel, now against the main thing is i'm, is to fight them and scare them in front of them and subjugate them and, and, and then killed the hard drive them out. now there's literally just make a pretty decent case often that they're just doing self defense. and often that is in self defense, but they take it to such savage proportions, but completely shredded all the international legal requirements for how to conduct self defense in a reasonable way that doesn't kill civilians. what these rabbits are doing is ignoring well that and attacking when the american 2000 pounds, bombs attacking the civilian the civilian areas and the they don't care who died.

so what do you, what you're seeing is this gruesome perpetuation of the concept that israel from the jewish people this real season. so was the state of the jewish people, that israel has the total absolute and may be sewn right to sovereignty and security in this region. everybody else has to pay homage to it, or at least play by its rules. and this is an awful thing because it has made is really the most dangerous place on the world for jews from money are leaving now. and this creates a lot of fancy jewish sentiment all around the world. so this is what we're seeing is this century old struggle between western imperial values and trying the product of the regions through designers of the state of israel. and total disregard for the neighboring countries are our people's lives before the countries and the palestinians who needs to be present or palestine. one of the jewish scientists

build ones wanted to create a state there. this is a battle that has gone on for a century and there's new stuff, of course, with the technology and different. but the really sorry left for the really new point. which wasn't, there are 1917 or 1948 is, is the wrong. the role of a ross as a huge backer of isabel and the creation of this actions of resistance is the big unknown. the biggest unknown factor in this whole equation. so that's what i'm keeping my heart. i'm to see because we have rockets from missiles from the m and the pit the from the, from a, from the man i'm from a wreck, and now from level. and then. so this is a new arena of warfare between non state actors and the most powerful state in the middle east. what a wrong does this as well as badly degraded if

a leader is killed or not filled up, i mean the top, the most important thing and my view, but they, they have people ready to take off of, but it's the whole one does, the greater, it's a big blow to your on the wrong would need to do something. we don't know what, what that is doesn't have to be necessarily militarily. but this is a lot of non factors, so i think that's what i'm keeping him. i am. so thanks the thanks for your insights. thanks for sharing that with us we continue to watch uh, 2 different life shots of uh, this uh, nighttime video of the root specific. we don't have a southern suburb of that by the way that was run the hoary distinguish fellow at the american university of error. so thank you very much, ron me. we have just over the last few moments at seeing multiple direct hits on down here. let's bring in hand us out, which was live for us from amman. jordan, because the is really government has been down to 0 from reporting within israel. come down. what are you hearing on your end?

and i know it's late, it's well past midnight. or are you hearing anything on what is really doing right now? 11 on the last hour we have received 5 different statements from these really military, 2 of them related to a rocket fire into northern israel. and some rock is actually making impact and causing fires along the border. but the other 3 statements were related to his really military activity in 11 on confirming the fact that they are indeed carrying out continued air strikes on bales, southern suburb of da here and not. they are also carrying out air strikes entire in the south against his bullet targets, according to these rarely, military clubs. back track a little bit around 2 hours ago when we heard from these really armies spokesperson daniel regard. he said that his role was actually going to be conducting more air strikes on da here in the hours to come. of course, there was no other sort of timeline in the hours to come is more of

a general sense. but these really military said that they were going to continue their airstrikes on his bullet targets all over the country. and it's important to remember some of the rhetoric leading up to this point leading up to the largest airstrike we have seen in be do it in quite some time. but even before all of that before this escalation had begun is really officials were saying that they were ready to change the balance of power on israel's northern border, that they were ready to quote bomb 11 on back to the stone age to turn they do it into a 2nd, garza and there is no sign of them letting up whatsoever. they say that these types of military incursions and activities are only going to continue. i'm not you brought up that quote. i believe it was from these really defense minister. you'll have kalonde back in november of last year. so this is a long time ago now. and he said what we are doing and gods, or have done and god so we can do in be root. and the last, the fact is that the last time,

the bigger part and the last time we were watching this guys of a city being bom, directly by israel repeatedly, it was cause a city and now little less than a year on the same thing. in b roots, where does this and we do not know, but this is a question actually i want to put to you, which is the israel hasn't said yes, we know israel wants to degrade his below. but beyond that, we don't know any more specifically, right? militarily, what israel wants to do, we don't know if they want to ground operation 11 on. we don't know exactly at what point israel would say we have achieved our aims. we have achieved our military goals. these are the hezbollah. well let's talk about these really military objectives throughout the last year. there were 3 goals previously that were all related to gaza. none of which had been achieved nearly a year on and just a couple of weeks ago, prime minister benjamin netanyahu in stated a new objective this time relating to the north. now,

according to experts within his role and anonymous security officials who speak to his really media, they have said that the goal in the north was perhaps a little bit easier for nets and y'all to achieve than in gaza, where the military is actually facing a lot of losses and not the strategic military gains that they have been talking about over the last several months. but in the north, nothing yahoo and his government's main objective they say is to bring back those evacuated is really to those towns and settlements along the border. when the cross border fire began on october, the 8th, a lot of these places were largely evacuated by the government. so you have to remember that these are people who are now living in hotels, all across the israel. and these really government is putting the bill for the so this is very expensive for israel itself. so there are a lot of moving parts here where they had decided, okay, there needs to be something that's done here because there was also a lot of outcry from those 60000 evacuated is really who were pointing the finger

at their government saying that there was nothing getting done, but israel said that his bola, only understands for the same way they had said about how messing dogs that they only understand force. and now they're implementing this policy of de escalation through escalation. which means in order to achieve some sort of agreement, some sort of diplomatic settlement, a pause or an end to the fighting. israel needs to put some sort of force, a large amount of it in order to prove their point, unless this is really policies across the middle east. we've seen a countless times in countless places, but ultimately when it comes to where this is going to lead us, israel has said that they are not going to stop. another window of opportunity for his beloved is now is coming up on to and where you are. i'm dying amman, jordan, so we thank you for your reporting. i fear that it is not over for tonight. we continue to watch these guys over bare root with these live shots. houses here is

honda saw who thank you very much for that. let's go to all the hush him whose entire in southern lebanon and ali is now taking shelter. so he can't come to us in vision, but we are going to be able to hear you probably what are you learning? what can you tell us? well, certainly just like you were talking to our on the sides. actually on some so doing that on the, on the 6 it'd be on and of course it sits you come in. we are very hard to both to given the fact that the number of exclusions are huge and it's just a lot. it's becoming more unit, even stronger in the package after you really won't include all the costs. this should be fine. i know they told you the next,

the next version that on the all right, so most of the damage saw that all shape is no problem box wants it, it's this ali and i'm going to be transparent with our viewers here. we know the audio is not great. we do know that not for the 1st time in this war, we have to fight through communications issues because it is not easy to be reporting from a war zone. whether that's in the gaza strip with our correspondence there. or now with lee who's have to take shelter because they are incoming is really strikes in the region where he finds himself. ali is there is, has bull are responding is, has been on the firing back of israel. while in the past, i don't want that extra large stuff was launched, launched is un, according to i want know now that it's the to the minutes ago, there were some of the buckets long she wants to stop. this is the,

the only mirage deputy saw and we saw that there was 3 hours before the barge and the past few hours there. well, she's the old one, but i sent you a long one. but then we're not talking about a big mess in the one the news. and i won't say that this is going to be the and off the side is going to be a long die. what the problem is, you're gonna enjoy the gosh, or long the long she was doing. she was here as a result of the hush and thank you very much. you and your team stay safe. you're reporting a front tire in southern oven on where multiple is really air strikes have occurred just over the last hour or so. and even more recently than that, we continue to watch. it is just before 2 am local time in the region. that's in

israel, that's and 11 on. and we continue to watch this guys over barrow. what you're seeing are multiple angles of live feeds of lebanon's capital city, and specifically the southern suburbs known as da here, where israel has been striking multiple targets throughout the day, including one massive blow that was a couple hours ago. and what israel says is a command and control center for his pull out. there is still speculation at this hour as to whether hezbollah chief i son, this router was there when the target was hit and whether or not he survive that attack. reuters reports that yes, he did survive. there is also speculation in these really media that says otherwise, we are not able to give you a confirmation one way or another at this moment and has belie staying absolutely white on that particular issue. you are noticing, of course, in the distance of fire burning, which is the aftermath of and is really strike in dia. let's go to how this job or

a former correspondent with the sunday times, an author of his beloved, born with a vengeance adjoining us. uh, from the root. i believe you told me when we last spoke that you are far from what were watching on our screens. i don't know if you're hearing any of the strikes is not the latest strikes. no, i'm good evening to you again. oh, good morning. about march or um the earlier ones. uh, we did hear them. um the last one was of course, the 9th. no, we did not hear that more. i am. how about what are your impressions that you can share with us when you see the strikes now the number of strikes, the intensity of them and the kind of targets what we know about the targets which isn't a whole lot. i'll give you that. you know,

i mean let's, let's, let's, let's start with the targets just because it is worth claims. and this is, for example, of what the store or white house was. not necessarily. and oh or, or mean anything we have seen isn't over the cost you even in gaza mix similar teams but turned out to be false. and as you've been, as you repeatedly mentioned and on your program, the southern and suburbs of where you would talk to you about the matter is a large g 70 in a book related residential area of course has because of sebastian on has the law of course they have their offices that they have to meet the officers there. and they, there are many of the options lived there. i mean, has one of the members or officials, i must aliens dropped from us, their loved needs, and the impact have to live there. it's radio officials lift and live also in residential areas as though most other officials around the world. so that is no

excuse to carry out assassinations and such as lucky. so 2 months earlier with bunker buster bombs, 2000 chinos of bunker buster bones on residential neighborhoods on the peep ex or the excuse of extra anything either when you are actually going to be coming. so many schools of the scores of slipping years. that's one thing. second is for example, the bombs used. i mean, it was very interesting to listen to blinking earlier until by than when he issued a statement of some sort, saying that they were not aware of this. it's one thing thing that not to wherever to another thing, because use they are complicit. there's no doubt about it because these lessons being used and dropped whether be bait and guys, especially the bumped up on a buster ones. and the ones which were used earlier tonight started last night are made in a us and delivered to is written by the us. so at the, is there any might be pulling the drag sugar. but um the,

what those have come from they are us made. so they are invalid, and in this for again, i for tonight's escalation, the way i read it is, is actually because an open war. now, the war has been contained up to a large extent along the border and the us a bit further than the border and so deeper, deeper around cities and, you know like high fall or stuff, odds and ends and the surrounding stuff with me basically. and, and even ben hezbollah has been containing it's a tax to what they call open fields. what is read is up and describing as open fields. in other words, they have not been targeting civilians or be they can do so they have an over the last 11 months, they have avoided any effects directly against civilians. the and when there has been a few civilians injured here there. these were by the 4 of these were the volume ever, not so much by essentially from the other hand you see is red and continuously targeting

areas where they're all civilians. and on caring for the fact that, you know, there wouldn't be schools thousands or hundreds of civilians, kids and they always come up with excuses. it's a warehouse, it's admitted to post. it's a, it's the headquarters back. what is your mind to know bishop, all that headquarters if they did this well, which then dr. b, i'm not so much as what your whatsoever. so uh, is read. these are literally in doing this, declaring it totally open war and they can get beyond what has been happening over the last 11 months between us was thoughts hot. i don't know if it's possible to answer that question at this stage, but is, has a lot able to sustain the kind of fire that we are seeing tonight live on our screens. you mean and, and i mean, there, yeah, i mean there were minute or you mean that well, i mean all of it uh, but specifically the repeated is really or strikes on targets within diet. and

i don't know whether you were there in 2006. the he was in houston robin. i was here, i cover that the, what we are seeing today, i'm not diminishing the tax that they are cutting off at the end of the day that they are actually bleaching 11 insolvency and they are talking about and there is no because even even if they even if they they, they provide a little earlier warnings for people to evacuate. this is what they think as well. but that, that does not justify the taxes. they're coming out with hezbollah, sustain this will be able to uh, tool tool tool to move forward from this. yes, absolutely. hezbollah that's built and has not been formed on the basis that you know, if you at docs or to assess nations as, as a serious, as the maybe it wouldn't allow this organization to come. but it has, you know, it has been, it has been in the making for decades. actually, it's,

it's sort of existence came about as a result of, as well as the invasion of lebanon, an occupation. it was no, has been loved before 1982. and yet as well used to carry out aggressions against loving it to target the airports with carrier assassinations. it invaded it occupied. this is the, the fox 319-823-1985. when hezbollah was actually officer, me, formed, and declared. so is there is history and level not as an aggressor has been continuous and it's and it's, it's a toxic scale. and then it came victim hans. and it says that, you know, it's defending, it says everyone has the right to defend itself. and that's not the sole model for you for isn't as much as, as will be the pass, the right to defend the test. so this has been law. so she'll do the palestinians, whether they are in guys that or in the west bank. and defending yourself. does not give you free license to can, which is what is well, has been doing the hollows arbor forest, the chance. sorry, go ahead. go ahead. no,

go ahead. okay. yeah, i was just saying back to a question when basis payments. i mean, listen um the, the, the, the hits and the last few weeks. again, there is no reason i wouldn't want to sort of diminish them or, or make light of them they, they were serious hits and what's your major partner has the you hello, are you truly? i thank you for the most part they want from, but what they want from behind just a what you're saying. and i think, and that's actually what my question was aimed a drawing out of you, which is he has sustained far, far worse. but people who remember 2000 and so yes, entire parts of da here were a level. and in fact, what the way these really military conducted itself at the time and the way it chose to conduct that particular offensive, gave its name to what's called the da here, a doctrine which is a set.