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hassle, say, go in domestic politics in lebanon, and wow, hezbollah participates in state institutions in democratic institutions and 11 on it also can call on the power of its weapons that help you on the stage. but if you as another reinforcement of its power in the country, now that has butler's military capacity has been a seriously degraded in the past couple of weeks there already. mom is 11 on about how this could potentially open up the kind of power vacuum and the kinds of forces that might move in to try to wrestle some political power on the domestic st back from his butler. so in this volatile situation, we could reasonably expect that has butler would resist these kinds of efforts violently. and therefore it's incumbent on the international community and also eliminates domestic players to preach kung and not to proceed with any of those kind of ideas. given the fragility of lebanon's politics, we're seeing, of course, with the last week we've been doing stories about tens of thousands of displays.
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people moving from southern 11 on further off the country are leaving 11 and altogether. and of course, that we're now hearing that people within be route as well are starting to make that move. is the government 11 on in any position to be able to help these people? i had, frankly, no, it's not. and it's very concerning that while the government did announce a late last year and emergency response plan, which was meant to deal with this kind of large scale displacement and heading towards a full scale war in lebanon. unfortunately, that plan has been very, very effective. and indeed, the hundreds of thousands of displaced 11 on right now, i'm mainly reliant on private initiatives and engineers to offer them support in the displacement rather than, than the government itself. but as you know, it also another issue that we're facing is that there are underlying simmering tensions. that could be nice. it should this displacement process continue in,
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even in grace. and while so now there's been a great amount of solidarity shown by lebanese, including noise from outside, has been the align communities for the displaced. there's no guarantee that it'd be monetary in situation grows even worse and loving on that this will continue. so this is another powerful reason that the violence needs to stop now and that the bodies need to move to a diplomatic solution that i hope we're going to be able to talk to you later on in the program. but for now, david woods, thank you very much indeed. thanks any spots and 513 gmc, that's 8, 30 am. and 11 on is ready. soldiers have launched a growing defensive define global calls for the escalation. israel's begun. it's 1st round defensive. it's 11 on in 18 years. the military says it's conjunction quote, limited and targeted rates against cuz ball after kenning is, leave the house on his father just days ago that i've also been in the series of air strikes, the latest attack, hit the and also with tom, your side on it's the largest and most densely populated palestinian refugee income
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in level elio and the night. slaves were fired into the night sky and southern 11 on a signals of troops on the ground. the ministry size is carrying not limited and localized raids against hezbollah targets. and just before the grind, defensive begun, several is ready air strikes at the southern suburb of a route, a series of light explosions were had across the city. just after midnight there gonna bring ends in a corner who's joining us live now from a bay, which is gonna bring this up to date with the latest on the ground defensive. what are we hearing? well we have not been able to independently confirm is really army claims that a ground operation has begun. what they call a localized limited and targeted operation against hezbollah and it's infrastructure in villages a close to the border. the lebanese arms group has also not commented on those
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reports. now these really are me in the past few months, usually released as video of it strikes. so whether there are targets it strikes or taking out rocket launchers as they, as they say. but this time around we haven't seen a one image, so we still haven't been able to confirm this, but it is clear from their statement that this is going to, this is not going to be an invasion if you like. and the full sense of the word and is wrote for it is really army understands what um, what being bogged down and what has become known as the 11 on quagmire would entail . because it wouldn't be the 1st time as well. you know, enters 11 or advances into that belong in 1982, they reached a root, and then after a few years they pulled back and created what they called the security zone. what's here and 11 on what's called an occupation zone. they face the gorilla warrant after 18 years they have to unilaterally withdrawal and then in 2006 was the last
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time there was the face, 1st major ground combat, if you like, between israel and hezbollah. yes. as really times advanced into 11 on a few kilometers, but they faced fierce resistance and village is like vintage band and modeling. the ross and other they suffered casualties. so they know that it does it. you know, it's an, as well as advantage if you can, is really makes this move and it moves into 11 on and, and actually stays there because then they would be a sitting targets. we heard a name ask them as well as deputy secretary general is, was the 1st public statement by a high ranking official since the assassination of, as well as leader has on those throughout law. and she said, has bella is ready for and is really ground invasion. and in fact, one of the last public words of house on the throttle was we invite you to come until 11 on because this will be a historic opportunity. we are waiting for your tank, so it seems as read the army does not want to give,
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has the law an opportunity to erase what's really has become this image of the faith a few like after suffering loss after loss. and even has the officials have acknowledge this, that they have suffered serious setbacks, but at the same time, they insist their military infrastructure is still intact. so there's really armies saying that they began these operations. we haven't been able to independently confirm it. they haven't said where this is taking place. this is a 120 kilometer border. we've had no reports from the united nations peacekeeping force, which has troops on the ground close to the border on whether or not these limited a ground operations are under way is in a policy and in terms of in charges on monday and also in the last several hours or so. is there any um assessment about why those kinds of being a charges of the well yes,
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we've had the target that striking the palestinian refugee camp of i know how the way that's in the southern city of sight in a place where's tens of thousands of people live in a very, very small area. we say camps, but in reality they are densely. this is a densely populated urban area. these are people who escaped to a when a escape, palestine, when as well was free and 1948 states. i targeted a leader of the el oxo martyrs brigades. one of your most definitely understand he survive, but some members of his family did not. it was the 2nd strike inside the account, but less than 24 hours. there was a strike in the camp of bus that's in the southern city of tyre. now these 2 a strikes so that is really, really, there is no no limits anymore. because in recent months, we have reported on targeted killings of palestinian commanders who were living inside the account, but they were hits either while they were leaving outside the camp or returning to the camp. so as well really escalating this conflict? a pushing, pushing limits. we are getting reports of 10 new casualties in the,
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in an area south of sight then. and then is really error strikes really on a daily basis. is this major escalation began more the over 2 weeks ago. we've had up to a 100 casualties a day on average. so this is a conflict, a war that is taking a heavy toll on civilians as well. so the trajectory appears to be one of escalation. years president joe biden has been quoted as saying and responsible report has questions that he wants us as far as the window of diplomacy closed, where it is, each side stands in the center as well. it's it's, it's what it, where israel stands and, and, and this point in time, this really for administer was reported has been reported as saying to for and dignitaries that it's wants to destroy hezbollah. and that is the ultimate goal to just arm hezbollah. it's no longer a question of a ceasefire state. it's no longer
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a question of they want to has belong to health fire across the border so that they can return tens of thousands of his radius to their homes in northern as well. they feel empowered, they feel that they have the upper hand and they feel that has the will case in. but the message from the, as well as deputy secretary tunnel name as of yesterday was just one of the science thing that we will continue and basically say we're not going to surrender and we're not going to accept defeats. but at the same time, we have lebanese government officials now they're not directly involved in this conflict of putting a possible solution on the table. and that is deploying lebanese army troops along the border. now that would give hezbollah breathing space if you like to regroup, and to survive basically. but the, so the ball really is in, as well as court. how far do they want to push this? they feel that they have the upper hand and that's why it is important for, for hezbollah to score some sort of an achievement, to try to, you know,
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change the balance of power and the way that they can do this is on the ground. and that's why it is very important for, for as well to push deeper inside leaven on. and they may be able to enter a few kilometers without facing any a resistance. and that could, of course, be part of a strategy by hezbollah to lower them in some sort of an ambush. so hezbollah remaining defiant, but open to some sort of a, it's his, his words really were seen as being flexible because we did not hear him say, for example, is really is, will not be able to return to their homes unless, as well as war on garza and the line that we have heard from hezbollah officials, time and time again in recent months. so some interpreted that as a, a flexible position, if you like, with the lebanese government proposing a cease fire. but now the ball is in as well as court. is there no, thank you very much. indeed. that's the end of quarter bringing it to us up to date on all of that from there. thank you very much. well, i start vague as a live person that are kind of on a in eastern 11 on. so i said over the last few days you've been reporting on the
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consistent strikes that have been happening in that area. what's the latest that you've been hearing about the is rarely talking to the tax as well and best. uh theres been intense uh, aerial strikes against positions of towns and villages. now, becca is considered the least parts of the consent. it has with us strong colds. and is a, has said, what it's going off to is a, has been the worst thing to oppose an infrastructure. but the reality is that because of those strikes because of the intensity of those strikes, many people have been displaced. in fact, we were on this lebanese syrian border the other day. and the you and hcr said that tens of thousands of people have crossed up border back into syria. many of them stephen refugees, but initially left of fled the country because of the civil war. now they feel that liberal and is no longer safe for them and they're having to return via infect,
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spoke to people, crossing that border. they said that living on how to become home, the children know nothing else except love it on. and that they feel that because of this conflict, because, and it was then, it was a possibility of a grand invasion because of that that's liberal on everyone's face. could be that of cause that especially meant they've been watching the news, seeing what's happening cause i think it was from the politicians coming out of to the view, claiming that has been, has weapons and kitchens, homes, schools and hospitals. they feel that everybody would be a target, but it wasn't just the syrians crossing the board. it was also a lebanese families. and as a new list, a 1000000 people are displaced inside this country from the side of from bay rouge and elsewhere. because of this concept. i said we've also been of course, i'm talking about a, the, these really troops on the ground. are we shipping any more about the movement of is where the forces it's not really is
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as my colleagues in, it says that we haven't been able to independently verify any of those is re became yes. these are you the saying that we have certain troops here? oh, 2nd, truth participating in this operation, but we haven't seen any images. what we have seen and heard is the intensity of strikes taking place on the southern liberties? southern border tons like cover killer. uh. yeah, i d, s a, a getting kicked by artillery and the intensity of that has increased spent terms of entering the lebanese toe tricks in terms of seeing those images are being able to independently verify if it's ready troops or have moved into that needs to be caught really yeah, we haven't really had an update on that. also been able to independently verify that. but what it does seem like is that the intensity of those strikes and those tons of villages along the southern but border has increased possibly to suffering pockets. so that these troops, is there any troops kind of move in by gain?
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we're still waiting to see if that's actually going to happen or when it's going to happen. so thank you very much and do this. i big talking to us in the back of the body in eastern level. let's go to stephanie decker. she's in jordan's capital amount. that's because these really governments bond or is it from reporting inside israel. so there's been a great deal happening over the last several hours, particularly since business midnight. what's the use when the government saying about what's been going on? well we had that too, am statement from the is really ministry following that political and security cabinet meeting, which gave the green light for what they are calling a limited ground offensive that is targeted in the sense of removing dismantling. disabling has been a lot of weaponry infrastructure along the border. now we're gonna have to wait and see what exactly that means, whether they're going to be going further in at the moment as we've been hearing farm or correspondence and up and on as well. we haven't gotten
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a sense that there is a major push on the ground at the moment. what we saw and garza seems to be quite similar to what they're doing now, which is intensifying across the border, shutting ahead of then moving forward. now this is going to be a very different fight then entering in gauze. hezbollah is a completely different opponent. even if these rays have managed to dent its capabilities with that intensified attacks on its leadership, on its military weaponry. over the last couple of weeks, we're going to have to wait and see how things unfold. certainly the 98th division brigade that is fighting that is present and apparently pushing according to these really military part of this ground defensive was inside garza. so a, they do have combat experience, but be they're also tired. so again, it's 2 or 3 days we're gonna have to wait and see certainly have the next 24 hours on full. but the message from these res, backed up by the americans,
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is that this is going to be limited, that they don't intend to occupy southern lebanon. but of course, the concern in loveland on is that they don't trust what israel says. in the meantime, just for viewers who are joining this stuff and can you just one through what israel's motivation is behind making these latest operations in southern lebanon? or israel has one main target, and that is to return the residence of northern israel, around 60000 people. has been away from their homes for almost 11 months. they want to return them to the border and into words of these really elite fits to re establish the balance of power on the border. so they want to create a safe space. what they believe clearly is that a military option dismantling infrastructure. pushing hezbollah box is going to be the right way of doing that. many people will tell you even if his bullet pushes
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back to the northern part of the new tiny river, that's 28 kilometers edits furthest from the is really bored. they still have the weapons capabilities to fire. and this kind of a situation can only really be achieved by a ceasefire by a political agreement by signatures not by military force. but israel is seizing on the momentum that it has created over the last couple of weeks with those strikes on has the, with the grading the groups capabilities as israel says. and we're going to have to wait and see is hezbollah now will prove how degraded it is once we see those troops at some point moving further in which at the moment we don't understand they have done yet. so thank you very much. indeed. somebody deco told me it was from jordan's capital a month. what is really going to find 7 to 11 and has been described as video and the secretary general's worst nightmare? gabriel alexander has the latest from the united nations in new york. as un
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secretary general, antonio gutierrez has warned for months now that any spillover from israel's war on gaza into 11 on would have catastrophic consequences. it was really his worst nightmare. it is now being realized. the secretary general remains deeply concerned about the humanitarian consequences of the events that are unfolding in lebanon. and he continues to reiterate his call for de escalation association of hostilities and a full implementation of security council resolution. 1701. the secretary general and his senior staff were in contact with our representative is on the ground who continued to engage with all actors in all parties, to appeal for diplomatic diplomatic avenues to be given space. what asked if the secretary general called on israel to hold any plans for a ground invasion into 11 on the spokes person was clear and said,
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we do not want to see any sort of ground invasion gabriel's onto. i would just say that at united nations in new york well is, is being reinforcing. it's northern come on to in preparation for his grand assault into southern 11 on this stuff was just describing the 36 divisions already there. it's mainly made up of artillery and changed for gauge. recently the $98.00 division of product repairs was deployed to join them. the soldiers have seen extensive come back in garza, in the past year to reserve for gates being called up to drawing the 30000 soldiers all ready their most likely the reserve, the gate of the 98. so 3000 more highly trained airborne troops and a reserve almost brigade with 4000 more soldiers and tanks. this unit has been training for a possible invasion scenario. a david booth is a senior 11 and analyst with the international crisis group needs. joining us again from berry road. thanks for staying with us. david. i wanted to ask you about something that you mentioned our previous on. so the that you gave me with regard
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to what the, the possible outcome could be of this given 11 of already fragile situation. you refer to the fact that politically, the underlying tensions and they, they might end up filling in what the risk might be. that something would fill a political vacuum. can you just describe to us what your concerns are about that? so in terms of the potential divisions inside living on all the divisions that exist and the potential for them to lead to a much larger problem. there is that for many years now, there has been strong opposition amongst various lebanese political communities and groups towards the influence of hezbollah over the country. so or perhaps some would be save this as an opportunity for forcing hezbollah to concede some political power. and even perhaps this on which, unlike other militias from the syllable which ended in 1991, as butler did not surrender its weapons and maintained its position as
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a resistance force. now, the most likely outcome would base at april woodside to a state institution. probably the lebanese army should be responsible for confronting hezbollah and this kind of scenario and forcing it to return its weapons. however, this is an incredibly dangerous scenario for several reasons. number one is that has the law would likely resist such a an attempt at violently and that could lead to widespread violence inside leaven on number 2 is that it could be dangerous to the army itself. now, during lebanon's economic crisis, which began in october 2019 the liberties army has been the strongest institution which has remained functional and commands the respective of the majority of lebanese people. now, the lebanese army would face potentially disintegration if it was to confront hezbollah. as for example, many lebanese she soldiers made defect from the army and refused to confront as bela. so these kinds of scenario is a terrible, not only for 11,
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but also from the perspective of israel. i mean, if israel continues to proceed with the intense aerial bombardment and now continues with his ground invasion is just started a risk creating a truly filed state on its own board. and so again, it's an interest of all parties to stop the violence and move towards a diplomatic solution for new border security arrangement between israel and level . given the circumstances that we've been seeing over the last several days, do you think that any diplomatic solution has a chance of the moment? i mean, i think it's possible. as we've seen a 9, i assume the interim secretary general of has butler yesterday insisted that has by law will continue to attack is ro until there's an end to the hostilities in gaza. but that also shows us where the k to result in this conflict is i don't think that he's right. we should see a ceasefire in gaza and a cease fire and living on us concessions to hamas and hezbollah, respectively. these are things that presumably israel wants itself because they'll
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allow for a new security arrangement to be struck in both the rain is and for the return of displaced in both countries um to the houses. so to my mind, i think that israel is in a position where it has achieved several military objectives, and the success is something that is where i was very pleased with, especially in relation to as bella and 11 on. so now would seem to be the time to make clear exactly what security guarantees that wants in order to return to despise to northern israel, and then find a diplomatic way to achieve those games rather than continuing to issue a strategy of using violence to achieve less objectives, and after the 2006 conflicts, of course, that would be an adopted resolution. 17 o one that allowed you any troops to patrol the lebanese border alongside lebanese forces that didn't work in the event that we get to the stage that you're hoping for. what is the mechanism that you can see that would actually be able to secure
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the folder and make everybody enough for the site and safe? so we know that yesterday the 11 east prime minister and issued me on the stress that the 11 east government is willing to deploy the lebanese army to the border to assist in these arrangements. we already know that the un peacekeeping force in southern 11 on uni, feel is present and could potentially be boston. but the question also becomes, in this scenario, what does he's ro considered to be its alternative? so with these ground invasion, which has all these dangers of missing grades and could become, what at the minute is meant to be limited and targeted riots inside leaven on could become, is riley troops permanently station for a given period of time in southern lebanon, defending and security sign. so how long is this ro willing to maintain that does he's ro, wants to risk the lives of its soldiers? who would then be fighting has by law in a war that's much better suited to a gorilla insurgency, welfare as opposed to the current war of attrition in which israel's power and
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intelligence capabilities are given to the massive age. again, i think the diplomacy at this point where he said it would be negotiating for a position of strength days. if it has by law, would be a much more prudent option and would be much better for both of the countries involved. and certainly can be struck, which potentially involves an increase lebanese army deployment, increased unity fail deployment as well. and didn't has monitoring capabilities to ensure that hezbollah cannot to attack israel in the future. david wood is a senior 11, an analyst with the international crisis group. really appreciate the benefit of your knowledge and this. thank you very much. indeed, sir. thanks again. if you're just joining us, israel has lost a ground defensive and loving on for the 1st time since 2006. the ministry says they are conducting photo limited and targeted raids against because of all of the after killing is told me to huffman the starlight. just days ago, his ball is defiant, the on group says it's ready to meet any ground offensive. calhoun and reports of
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the lee is illuminating the skies above southern leaving on the sign. that is right . the troops were crossing the boat for days, as military had been mobilizing along the northern border. it strikes throughout monday, pipes away for a ground defensive, which as realities will be limited, localized and targeted against these bloss science. if we look at the composition of this trend, so pest blah is made all mainly dom mrs side units and the special forces. now these are believe that it had destroyed, most of them is science, where the units will at least 50 to 60 to 70 percent. and now what is right in loss is to surround this special voltage. is ralph is ground operation is being supported from the strong kid that i know who i can see a side on the largest palestinian camp and living on the southern suburbs of bi
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route were once again targeted in civil lodge strikes the confident because of recent successes in various assassinations and bombings that they have conducted. but frankly, i think they are over confident if they go in and they think that they can seriously disabled hezbollah on the ground. i think they're in for a few nasty surprises. the strikes weren't limited to living on. so reinstate media, seed an attack and killed several people including a journalist in the capital, damascus. callahan, i'll just here to the elizabeth is going to be here in a couple of minutes, was more of a continuing coverage of israel's grand defensive into southern life on the lease of life pictures of a root. you can see there smoke rising above the buildings of to one of the strikes . we understand that after midnight the housing
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