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the devastating strikes follow quite here where we chris, because that's 1st responders know the new mission could be the last but until then, the humanity drives one day with guys, the civil defense which miss rescue mission. because on the fly, we nearly 200 ballistic miss size is while one was the us of the the action unless as well as like russian is the world wakes to see what these, when, when do next as it continues to bombing, gaza, and 11 in can peace prepaid, or is the why the war more likely? this is inside scope. the
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hello. welcome to the program on how should a bottle, yvonne find almost 200 besides that as well. a big mistake for which to hold on. we pay sizes, right? it prime minister benjamin netanyahu, iran on so you guys don't have diplomatic relations about the around, you know, so, so as household items as 0, that's a message has been sent to washington in iran, says that periods of what it called unit law. total self restraint has on that of that anymore is ratty attacks will be met with what the terms and unconventional responds, including the target single infrastructure and the message iran stressed, it does not, won't original rule us as, as well and what it calls it's unbridled madness must be kept. so what's next is natalia, how trying to provoke you run into will. i wish was that it will the us and western allies in a why the comes that. what is iran strategy and is submitted to capability. it can
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a path to peace be found or we'll ready on the vote a why the war with space all guess in a few moments with us, this report from cetera, again, on tuesday, iran attack days around bulls of fi, at least on the night sky above the tennessee tyrone says it was in response to the south nation or pets ability to pass on this from law. and how much political chief is smelled honey. but he ross has reiterated both in directly to the us and on an official state visits. it could talk that it does not want a regional. did you more with them on the certainly we are not in pursuit of war with israel. they promised us peace, but israel hasn't temper rise to august and to her on doing our presidential integration. we want to establish peace. if you disagree, policies will not be established. there are no such schools from prime minister
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benjamin netanyahu, whose pain to the wrong is roth number one enemy, throughout his in top political career. just a week ago, he told me you and iran was building ballistic massages to threaten the entire wild . tyrone denies its nuclear program is the military purposes nothing yahoo will say, says is route is ready to attack. again. i have a message for the tyrants up there on if you would strike us, we will strike you. there is no place there is no place any wrong as the long arm of israel cannot reach. and that's true of the entire middle east. in nearly a year of war and gaza, these really minute 3 has killed more than 51000 palestinians. most of them women and children at the lab and on is ready rates of displace modem. 1000000 people that soon was 20 percent of the population in the matter of the weeks ahead of you
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and says israel's actions risk engulfing the region in a wider war involving international powers. the raging fires in the middle is fast becoming an infallible insight. time to stop the sickening cycle of escalation of that escalation, that he was leaving the people of the me of the leaves straight over the cliffs. us and european nations continue to supply weapons to israel, even as they cool for the spot in lap and on. on the garza, and despite the police of the un, there's no sign of and then to the cycle of intensifying violence. sorry, go out or 0. the inside story. the, let's bring it all guess from to hold on. we joined by will happen, but not on the profess of american studies at the university of to hold on. he was
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also a media advisor to the rodney and negotiating team of the international atomic energy agency in boston, virginia, thomas pickering, former us ambassador to the united nations who was also in boss. i'll go to his manuals and, and russia among other countries do, instead of a good deal of a column, this of the hot it's newspaper off of the book, the punishment of gaza. thank you for joining us. well, how much? what is the general feeling in to hold on? is it that the iranians believe they are on the verge of war with israel? it is quite possible today prior to a lot of time in a lead to friday prayers. and uh, i think this was perhaps the largest gathering of people that i've ever seen in to run, even though there were lots of, uh, online chatter about this right of the regime striking a yeah. ceremony and the prayers. but uh,
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we saw millions of people participate and he was very strong and firm about what you are on will do is the is right, the regime strikes iran and if it escalates you, ron will strike much harder next time round. what we saw a few days ago was just the tip of the iceberg. and i think it's wise for people in washington to yank hard on nothing yahoo is leashed. otherwise, the price that this way the regime will pay will be much higher than anything else ever had to pay before thomas the volumes of defiance. and so all these bodies do is to believe that there is a, with a rueful and a compromise or electrical data that could implement a ceasefire agreement. i think could politically speaking one can envisage compromises. a real problem being and your question is rightly directed at it. is there the will to move now?
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and this is one of those a worst, if not, perhaps the worst situation we have seen in the middle east, in a very long while. it has the potential to produce catastrophe. and that kind of catastrophe will affect people on both sides of any line you seek to drop in the midst of a conflict. and this has been deeply concerning. we are in a complicated situation in the united states with a election about the presidency, which is for us, an extra central question in many ways, just 30, some days away. you affected by the situation in the middle east. it is not something that can be easily put aside. there's having some serious
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influence most in the middle east in the longer than in my own country. in the immediate and long term did the is a sweats made by a ronnie and president the i to law. i mean i, i'm the rodney in minnesota floating up as uh, ave, taken seriously by the establishment in as well. yes. absolutely. nobody can not take them seriously because the situation is very, very serious. but thinking seriously does not mean, but it is right. it has 2nd thoughts about striking becky ross. i say, unfortunately, so, but i don't see any chance that these are in a realtor 10. the 8th of that, of the jews the evening. any, so we are facing a great your show region and the danger me know how much of this particular moment can we fairly say that the top priority for a right now,
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because you have the around, the assignment minutes of following up as in lebanon, is to try to ensure there is a data to at least make sure that his bella remains intact. this by the string of setbacks is suffered over the last few weeks have no doubt that has been law is very powerful and it is probably more powerful today than it was a couple of weeks ago. and this is not empty where it is, randy regime murdered a few senior officials, military officials, but they are younger officers and hundreds of thousands of combatants ready. they have thousands of kilometers of tunnels across the south and central let me know. and even in the north and all of their strategic assets on touch, say it how sudden us are and i was a towering figure. but i think what they've done to him is made people more angry
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and more determined. as you probably know. i went to a route the day after the shock and awe air strikes in the south in the east the day before. i say it has a son who was murdered, and i been there for a week. the, the resilience among the resistance and the supporters of the resistance is extraordinary. and the as a, is there any reason i think has miscalculated, but in there they are right now, or they've been drunk for a few days. but then the writing was totally ation. i think made them a bit more sober and the defeats that they've had to a, a witness in on the border with 11 on over the last 2 days. i think we'll make them even more more silver. but as you're a guest, right, the pointed out the regime in tel aviv is probably going to continue to escalate, because this is not about uh, this riley population. this is about met in yahoo and the people around him who
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need to remain in power. and he wants to get to the united states in ball. otherwise he has lost in gaza. he has lot of in loving on, on the border with club or not. and he's going to lose with the ron and his boss in the red sea. but uh, the, the cx, 5 conditions that you, ron, will accept and has beloved accept or the sci fi conditions that how much will accept this randy regime has to accept a ceasefire for gas had that is acceptable to have a loss and the resistance and other than that, nothing will be accepted. thomas if the is vine is had back, then the iranians may retaliate and then move. it might end up in this unstoppable cycle of tit for tat. what does it leave the region leaves the region in a continuation on a broader basis of the kind of carnage and destruction that we have seen
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over the last year since october 7th. then guys. it also threatens the totality of world training and quality in a very broad way. the book is already circulating about the choice of targets in the wrong. whether it would be the nuclear facilities, the oil production facilities, or the missile production facilities, or some combination. none of those in my view seem is to be capable of affecting the increase in deterrence. that seems to be regarded as a important for the important focus of these particular issues without creating and new element of risk of continued cascading attacks
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and re attacks. if we can phrase it that way, that lead the control situation, then this should be nobody's desire and nobody's analysis in a clear thinking way of how to proceed. we are getting, if not to the edge of the impossible clips are very close, get in. if you look of the uh, the timeline, so you have october, the 7th, a task, a key defining moment for these writers. you have april a task when these right when the volume is 5, some 300 midsize and drones is read off to these right, about kill several iranian generals in damascus. and that you have few days ago, they, uh ballistic, was lies about targeted israel. now when these ryan is contemplating that responds, what is the key issue for them is to cripple iran or to ensure that whatever they have to do won't resolved in a massive response from the rodney. is that good?
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just drag the region into the house. it could be balls, i think that day and it's in the island government sees the great opportunity off the big sea rather than great success in gas ends in great success. and so i'm not sure when they think that that's the time to short or the problems the security problem. so is that once in 4 days, they quoted namely to crash or the potential letting me. so please read a little known in gaza and they, they hear on and i've seen that they seen the dead simple tune still trying their best to go. so and the tank quoted on your, on, on your, on specific, this might succeed minutes early me and yes, the result. so one i directed the torturing,
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don't are we to washing for 3 x and by and large the, or c is so expensive. and so then just sort of explosive, but i can't even imagine my service. so no, no, no, we should be good friends, no turbo or how much if you look at what's next to particular when it comes to yvonne, do you think that the response of the is violet is what we define in a way or another yvonne's relations, whether it's t allies, but tick entity has been the 11 and the hosting for exit hesitates, for example in m. and do see that being redefined by the highest establishment in iran and the relationship will remain as it is very powerful then you, ron, will ensure that hezbollah wins this war because it will ensure that the admin defeats is where it is. and it will assure, ensure that how mosse is timing jobs are not defeated by this randy regime. i don't
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mean to be sound very tough, but i really need everyone to recognize what's happening. your audience. if the is randy, regime strikes the wrong, it cannot destroy a nuclear program because that is very well protected. it can cost some damage. but the advisor to the leader said that the wrong zip code doctrine will change if you're on is threatened in any way with regards to a, let's say a new pair of angle it could be as radius cannot destroy, you runs missile program because that is the bundle about it can hit hit economic targets and do some damage by the run has gone to 8 years of war with saddam was saying, and maxima pressure sanctions iran on the other hand, will strike you or israel so hard with thousands of miss house, you run has hundreds of thousands of missiles they prepared underground cities
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across the country for war with the united states. now with israel, israel, his opinion machine to and these underground miss island drum cities are. the americans cannot destroy the let alone israel. iran will unleash so many missed sounds that is route and it will destroy its infrastructure. they will destroy every thing that is as the regime will not be able to sustain itself after a heavy you're running attack. so gone are the days where the ronnie and show strategic patients and gone are the days where the west should ridiculous iran in april. when you iranians, 5300 old drones. they were sending a message. and the west started was from a position of weakness. first of all, the run was gathering intelligence for a real strike. they sent 300 drones and a few missiles older miss south. and if you knew or miss, i'll say,
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to test the defenses and to see what the americans, because most of the real defense is american and surface, they are defense and they spent billions of dollars shooting down to drugs which costs it. nothing for you. right? but the ronnie is guided all the intelligence that they need and now the iranians have shown what they can do. the american should be very careful about the next step because it also does this, the wrong located card. and if the americans get, this is the point it wants to get to ha, if the americans get involved, the us will be kicked out of the rock by the rocky resistance. us forces in the persian gulf will be gone. and those regimes in the persian gulf, those family resumes and the persian gulf, that host american bases, it will be seen as hosting the enemy that would be the end of the glow of the oil and gas trade from this region. and that would lead to global economic collapse. thomas yes, is served as a us and by so that to the united nations,
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the institution that has been put together to ensure that the security deep, the magic architect, setup is phased off to the 2nd world. war stays and for this, the americans have been trying to do the best to contain situations from utility rating in the middle east, except for now, there is a growing sentiment. that's what is happening now. could be perhaps the america's biggest fault and above the funding policy, if fadia in the region in that case, do you agree with that assessment? i think we face on the part of all of us, a serious and catastrophic potential for failure. and i listed with a great deal of attention to what your 2 other guests have had to say. i do not agree after 65 years of practice and following of diplomacy, that military forces the answer to diplomatic problems. and that no longer
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ends with further by force or by negotiation, without political consequences of some serious significance. and that we do need to take into account as thinker as an analyst. the risk. so moving from a bad situation to an account to bully worse situation. then put our heads around that problem and talked about how can we prevent this? we cannot prevent this by assuring that every issue on which we have differences has to be settled in our favor. that doesn't work in diplomacy, but we cannot require that as a beginning of read for a process of moving, we do need to establish communications. the u. n. a has shown its weakness by
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divisions between the great powers and the failure of the security council to do what it should do. one does a charter, even if an upset that has to be reinforced and backed up by some use of pressure, that is serious. we get the process moving toward the outcome that has at the beginning, certainly a ceasefire, a resolution of the humanitarian catastrophe. to live in a, in an advisor. uh sure. it was there for to treat with all of the difficulties in the region, including the focus on the question of how and in what way in israel palestine issues be resolved. my humble opinion is the least worst solution is
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a 2 state solution. even if everybody can figure out a 1000 ways that it cannot be achieved and will not be worked and we have to work on the possible. i'm not the magical, but we are in a magic ways and magically, just to self destruction by the wizards of magic. who will happen to be ourselves? okay. get in the amount of these writers do they? is that the whole thing about a 2 state solution? a piece for agreement with a keep i as in the region, does it still by the data among these writers or do things that now they believe that they is variety. um it has to continue expanding is money to our prices. any a man in the, by the, in syria in iraq if needs be to ensure, oh, i please to create a new, a political reality on the ground of those that sort ocean is. busy long time ago,
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in my view, what's all 700000 said joe said this, it's gonna be demented. and then you have to realize it. that was think about that and then of the. but i'd say no question. i can send you over to any victoria about the social, any piece. i mean, the word piece is what mentioned it is way order, but the order be problematic arrangement, the whole different logic solution is totally off the table and the easily this boss is always preparing it for, for the next war and the war of the next floor is right, or most of more to warn you supporting the current or for the recording to was posing guys on a bundle handbook for be don't so in your boss of these are a lot of goods for the most of them don't believe in any kind of sacraments, neither was things, but i know it was from us. oh sure no p 0 and the only language they know right now
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is the language of more violence. most of these are seen that after the 7th of october, they have the right. so i don't know so, and that's very, very vengeance because so many guys in the past is there a way to this way and strongly guidance in the past, we've missed opportunities and staying the same spot with this state that lives on each. so the role regrade gets there for the next morning, next door. i'm feeling great, and that's a real danger of following the. so these are pointing to see the top, the one here in guy's side, which is where really it just nothing. we, i mean good clip, i don't know, and then maybe to iran. ok. and then was, and then was preparing for the next or after the next war. we have less than 2 minutes. this just came to me just a few uh, shows and says, uh,
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i would really appreciate. well how much is the rankings? are they right? is waiting for uh, a did even though that these could be very painful for the people very briefly, please. no one will not accept any deal either then one where the conditions of how moss and the resistance in gaza, except in and one way or the conditions of has spelled out accepted after the crimes can bind is readily res, seem to holocausts and gaza genocidal attacks and membrane on it's clear that this regime and ask those the premises and has absolutely no place in this region. the 2 state solution never was real, it is dead. the most extreme zine is, are in the west bank. and therefore, the only path for is the dismantling of design this regime where and have it having a palestinian state where jews, christians and muslims are equal and human beings. there is no mass or race. there is no superior people that error in this region is coming to an end,
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and the declining west cannot stop the will of the people and many young jews. fortunately in the united states and elsewhere are themselves showing at every the world. the design is a, is not 2 days of thomas, which we keep talking the whole time about american leverage in the middle east. do you still believe there is a leverage here? or do you think that we are into a new mode of the elections of that for them? not because we're not really be interested in getting themselves dragged into something bigger in the region. i'm acutely conscious of many who hold the theory of the decline of american influence and i'm not know i have to ignore. it's packed. i'm also acutely conscious of the fact that the choice of using american influence may have an x to stand show. uh,
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if its influence on the outcome of our coming election, which for us, but for others perhaps, is not a totally irrelevancy. and in one way or another might be the gateway board. the opening of more constructive influence. the pending election has permitted us to exert despite the fact that many of us have again change. no change an advocate jane digit is 5 minutes and that's in the whole, in a much better position to pursue aggressive policies when it comes to dealing with iran has by law and other players in the region. absolutely. yes. and when the united states is the best save, and these people considering to use the leverage that they have experienced east spring to continue, i just want to say one word to our re run young guess is the one stage. if you're
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not there by students, they include mistakes for a democratic stay. and really, i suggest, let's stop they say here we're going to say in the schools arrogant language, low spot, please use it though, both copies of the way and reading and the stronger. let's try a different these schools because these, these schools suite to bring both of us to and all right. the state, any state that accept equal rights for everyone is fine and that is acceptable to the people of the region. but i have full peer people, that is the arrogance which unfortunately have to, we'd have to leave it that have much. but under too much pickering gives you like, i really appreciate you. and as i thank you to thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website as is the goal for further discussion. go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash h,
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