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hello and welcome to the program. i'm sort of any a completed the words of israel after it's military carried as an attack against iran. it said the strikes were in response to what it called months of continuous attacks from iran. while they're on said the damage was limited. israel has stepped up its attacks against the radiant backs groups and 11 on and syria and iran. now the range of leadership is threatening to retaliate. this cycle of violence lead to a broader regional conflict. we'll get to our guests in a moment. first though, this report from alex baird as yet another risk, elation for region on each israel launching what it's called targeted and precise strikes across it on it's attack, some of the tree bases and to miss all sites and they have a capital to front and, and the waste and provinces of him and who's this done to around says to military personnel with kills. but the damage was the limits. it is really official. say

there were a tech was in response to iranian missile strikes earlier this month. there is real defense forces has fulfilled its mission. if the regime in the wrong were to make the mistake of beginning a new round of escalation, we will be obligated to respond to our messages clear all those has threatened the state of israel and 6 to drag the region into wider escalation. will pay a heavy price runs. foreign ministry has condemned as reynold's latest strikes, calling them a license, violation of international law. and it says iran has an inherent right to self defense. this is the latest attack and a cycle of violence that has intensified since as well launched its war on gaza in april as well. bummed runs consistent. domestic is killing 13 people. this done to 2 weeks like to, to run responded by launching hundreds of missiles and drones at his royal and its

1st to such a direct attack the following month. so a number of these various explanations of how most and his qualities and on october 1st and run. so i said those cummings, launching nearly 200 missiles towards israel leaders across them, at least have condemned the light just as ready strikes and then now cooling for come at like speed l g 0 for the inside story. the, this is bringing our guest smell intel of if you'll see, belen is a former is really minister of justice. we initiated negotiations for the also peace accords and to her on mom and burundi, professor of american studies at the university of their hon. you're also a media advisor to be a ring and negotiating team at the international atomic energy agency. and in cambridge, in the u. k. roxanne, farm and from i on a professor of modern middle east politics at the university of cambridge,

a warm welcome to each and all of you. mohammed your intent, run. we're gonna start with you as the uranium presidents and perhaps more importantly be a range and supreme leader were being given in the last few hours as we record this in the last few hours. a precise damage assessment of israel's attacks on iran, given that they've been expecting this in some way, shape or form. how do you think they felt about these attacks? how do you think they analyze that? i think they steal that to the damage that was caused as a result of the attack was much less than they had anticipated to be run in miss alt defenses. were able to bring down a significant number of miss house. and also there are a lot of decoys and dummies using false intelligence given so that

of some of the missiles mistook those decoys for the real thing. there was damage, of course, but to today we see that the markets across the country and in toronto in particular are very positive. so it would seem that the society at large also believes that the israelis did not do well in this attack. since you mentioned society at large, what's, can you give us sort of the flavor, the color of pork on the streets into her, on and across the country on how people are processing this? well, i can only give anecdotal. so evidence. but in general, perception seems to be that uh uh, this was much less effective than the iranian, uh, retaliatory strike that was carried out to ghost as riley was

a few weeks ago. and the perception was that uh, for example, in tat ron, i says that no explosions in the city. many people didn't even wake up. uh, i only woke up because alex is here on our to call me. uh so i think that in general, people felt that uh, this was not a major event. of course there were strikes that were targets, but it didn't. uh, it was, it didn't have this sort of impacts, but uh, maybe many people were kind of concerned about. okay, yes, say being then and telling me how's the attack being perceived in israel? i mean, he is really military of course says it is a success that they hit what they want to hit. we understand that they hit mostly misfire production facilities. and some miss i launching systems surface to air missiles is what i'm reading. but there's also criticism of the prime minister for not hitting iran harder. you know,

the always people who will the quickest size a they, they need the shape of the day. so not a heating gale striking get how the a i am not one of them. i was not show that today the whole, the idea of striking a few run and now was them a relevant a deal. and so it was, i will tell them. so coding i will, kendall gotten a but i'm glad that they keep it is not the major a duck and a big both sides. so a telling the public opinions on the union side, the due date was not no harm or most on these various side that it was successful and ex, your rate, and they all the airplanes. they redone the, the reason i am so because of the duration, which doesn't they call or for a continuation of these say,

a visual sal good. and the enables us or do is think about the future. what's the same question that i ask mohammed, what's the word on the street, intel, of even just in jerusalem and israel, how are people feeling about the attack? how are they perceiving it and talking about it? well i, i don't know much better than you'll says a do saturday and it is, this is a very, quite a day to day. okay. i don't see people that sink in the, in the streets and know the other way. well. okay, lets take this to uh, roxanne, uh, farm on from a. yeah. and how do you analyze the attacks and that will add this we knew these attacks were coming. that's not a surprise. the big question was, how big were they going to be? what was going to be struck were any symbolic, really high value targets going to be struck, the light force iran's hand and would they ultimately lead to further escalation or

de escalation within that context? how do you analyze those attacks? well, i think there's general relief. i think there is a sense that this was a tit for tat, rather than an escalation. i think there is a great deal of the lead up that went into this there. probably there had been a sense that the retaliation from israel would be greater and that the plans for that were leaked in the midst of a great deal of american pressure to ensure that the nuclear sites and that the oil sites were not hit in iran. and therefore, i think this comes in the wake of a sense that there's been some collaboration that the is really, is have taken on board the concerns that the us put forward. and that this was largely symbolic. of course, there were a couple of already announced fatalities by the iranian military. probably there

will be a few more, but it is definitely not a large scale attack. so there's no sense that this has escalated the situation. and or in fact hit at iran in ways that iran did not hit originally at israel. so i think there's very much an evening the, the game here, and a sense that both states can step back without feeling as though they're complex, or those that are their allies will consider them to have been week or week delivered about it. the rocks on the ringing, sorry mister published a statement saying it now has a duty, a right and a duty to defend itself. so what do you expect we are? that means i guess it's fair to expect the wrong to do something. but what that something will be, of course, we don't know, as we don't know, and i'm not so sure we've heard this kind of language before on both sides by the way. and i think that that does not always trigger an immediate military response.

i think it is simply a strong response by a sovereign state saying we have this, right? should we decide to take it to do something and re it, you know, because we have had our territory attacked. but i don't think that there is much reason to unless some of the other parts of this rather diversified war uh, creates a situation where the iranians, again, feel as though they need to move. so in the past, the reason they did send the badge of the 2nd marriage of missiles towards israel was in the wake of a several major assassinations, including the thrall of hezbollah and slab and on. and i think if there's something large that happens again like that, there will be this opening because it has made the statement, but i think at the moment there's little reason to expect that it will make a retaliatory move. okay, but that's, that's kind of the reason i wanted to put in our, yours radar. you said they,

they can sort of claim and i'm paraphrasing here correctly. if i'm, if i'm paraphrasing wrongly, but they, they have, they can kind of keep this claim to having a right to strike is really, again, and use it if and when they choose to. we've seen around do this before, right? when it's melanie a was assassinated into her on iran, spent 2 months saying we are going to respond. they responded on october 1st, so a full 2 months. and then, you know, when they, when, when the ringing leadership saw it as expedient and in their interest, that's when they struck televi mohammad, this duty to defend itself that is announced and claimed by the iranian government . where'd you expect that to go? without a doubt the ron is going to retaliate the ronnie ins shuttle strategic patients for a number of years as rarely as any americans carried out a major cyber attack. does iran? it was the 1st a cyber attack on the country. and since the internet was born, they assassinated a number of iranian scientists, including

a colleague of mine at the university of jack ron, who was murdered in front of his wife. and they carried out other assassinations in syria when the running officers were fighting against viruses and by then other a terror groups. uh, this ran, these would attack them. but after the time on the embassy in damascus, that changed to run for the side of that policy. and decided to retaliate, and after the martyrdom of his mind, honey, be ronnie and said they will strike again. and after this striking wrong, will again strikes days where they were seeing because we have to remember the ryans are the ones who are retaliating. not as riley's is re, these were the ones who bomb the embassy. and then it was as rabies was fascinated, an official guess of the president elect who came to participate in his inaugural. so somebody but 2 other things. i just real quick because i have to point out one

is that the only reason why is rarely jets returning to is what it was because it came nowhere near the running board of the jordanian regime, facilitated the jets to fly over the air space and the 5 missiles from there, with the iranians were capable of doing, was it they down to over half of those missiles and because many of the other marseilles, to hit the, as i said earlier, decoys are dummies. and to me, so targets and some, some hit their targets as well. so. so there's really a air force came nowhere near the right hand corner. you'll see is benjamin netanyahu. these really prime minister still trying to re shake the middle east because 2 weeks ago officially. that's what he was about. he doesn't tell me about these plans. i don't know. i know that. but what do you read into what he's doing to say that i believe that these a mo, plaza,

then the somebody with things that these going to reshape a, the middle east. i mean, i think that that's so why don't you, we can't understand better. what is the situation? okay, right to right now, how much is much we kill them before? and they the full me at least it is good news because come us well the most important. a spoiled on the police danielle's side of the peace process since many years and, and full me the main reason why i begin to host the pros is, was the feeling that come us is becoming stronger and stronger in the police. being in a, in the protesting in a camp, and that the e commerce is leading a and how much doesn't want to have any kind of peace, which is what it doesn't want to recognize, use right or whatever. then we'll do. now on the on day is no to in

a front a if he's by law is wico, then before but the degrees and it is acting a and it is part of a state, a very, a flow state, but it is a state. and i hope that we come us, it would be possible a to get the week that he's done, it would be possible to get to an agreement. drew phillips itself side on what ends up a about the future, which would be which we do is input very much of the un was at region 17. 0, one about a about a year i room did not participate directly a against easily, a full many years and 3 failed the proxies. mainly a, if he's by law and a mass, but also the who is a to a to add to games. they is, when they, it is the 1st time that they find it, the same facing is right. and so you know, these conform patients which was actually new for both sides. so it is, i believe,

clear that none of us is going to destroy the idols. and that even if a wrong doesn't want to recognize the existence of these. busy then once we to be eliminated or dollar, which is a member of the u. n. if i don't, if i'm not wrong, then we have to to see whether it is not impossible to think about a, a model. so the van d, maybe it is impossible, but i would like to think that there is a possibility that they wouldn't be through it. so it's about some arrangements that leaves the arrangements there is not going to be based apparently. but the arrangements in which we can, we can leave it in the future in a much a safer situation done before. so i asked her whether not, you know, who was still trying to reshape the middle east, because those are words that he used a couple weeks ago. the, the most obvious re shaping that is taking place in the middle east right now. that,

that i can see is in gaza. it's not in ron, it remains in gaza and it's what's been going on for a year. i mean, northern guys is being emptied the so called humanitarian zone of all the wasi further south. and the strip is being a white and it does not seem that the attack in iran is going to bring major changes based on what you're all telling me, i think is agreement on that. but the ongoing attacks and gaza, those and rocks and i'll put this one to you. those are reshaping the gaza strip as well. and i think it's also important to note that this does a tac last night on a rod was accompanied by quite a significant attack on damascus and different parts of syria. yes, and i think simply a reminder that this is quite a distributed war, a part of which i think has served to take the attention off of casa. but i think it is quite clear that both the south of 11 on the west bank and gaza are

all under going significant change as a result of the degree of attack that is being taken place. and therefore, there is real question whether there might not be quite a bit of change in the border area or even in the settlement area of a, of israel and hounding. yeah. who sees that? and i think it will be quite difficult to find a mode is to bring in other powers to help rebuild. because i was out there being a real possibility that it could be defined by a change in a policy, in jerusalem as to what will happen to that land where you'll see it was only a few days ago that the is really security minister to more vandevere i attended a resettle garza conference that was the official name of the conference re settled gaza. and it took place symbolically, of course, just

a few kilometers away from the strip based on the as really media reporting that i read. you could hear actually the bombing taking place in gaza from the side of the conference that was just 2 or 3 kilometers away. um, do you see a future where the is really government would allow the ultra nationalists to get their dream and resettle gaza in whole or in part? no, i don't see such a situation even it doesn't. you all said that a no way that they use a with reset the, the gaza strip. and they, i think that they bring it in. doesn't deserve a, any reaction. why he's lawyers though he's, he's account looking why he's a cabinet minister. i agree. i agree, or the read fully, he's a cabinet minister and i hope that it won't then take longer until he's not. yeah, but he, i understand what you're saying, but he is right. you know, when you say he's not worthy of a reaction or we shouldn't pay attention to him, i understand that that might be your opinion, that you'd rather not pay attention to him. but it says no my get i you can have,

you can react to him. i usually when he is in this, the tv still do i'm, i'm going out of this to deal. i never agreed to it. bill became more use. he. i mean, he is bad news, but what the hell did, but he's been telling me that's why i ask you about him being that is crazy. it's crazy and i don't read that to you but your goal. so if you'll, if one right directly. yeah, but it's not because it's sensationalized or makes headlines or it's a juicy story. that's not the reason i ask you about this. the reason i ask you about this is he seems to get his way pretty often. and it seems that netanyahu is trending in the been very slow to which direction more than he's trending in any other direction. as far as i can tell you, book instead of mcdaniel, we know situation. when will it will? he is a dependent on these people. these will not a must, but you decided to follow me government. we people, we, we told she had said in the bus, it would never seem to get to this is the,

the for world he's paying the price for wheat and you're right. i mean the, he has a bank that has the microphone is smart because of his microphone and talking nonsense and they, i'm not in the situation to tell you that they have no follow it or i never react to them. yeah, no, i guess the point i'm making isn't saying they're talking nonsense and i think from a journal listing standpoint, could be a very generous interpretation of what is really going on. um, they are cabinet ministers, these 2 men and they are in a government and they're saying we want to reset whole gaza and what we're seeing on the ground suggest that actually you know what that could happen. why do i say this? because civilians are being forced out in northern gaza. and you know, when you connect the dots, the picture that is formed is more consistent with maybe is real reset link parts of gaza then. then the opposite. what i don't think that it will have

any day. i, as i said, i have, i hope that this big literally not staying the government phone on because it gives a stain stain on our state rocks. and it struck me as i was preparing for the show, the benjamin netanyahu has done something that many commentators for the past year . these guys are worth told me. he was trying to do which was to outlast job. i were now 10 days away from the us presidential election. joe biden will not be the next president, regardless of who wins on november 5th. and so we can already say at this date, the benjamin netanyahu has outlasted job i. it's, it's, it's pretty crazy when we, you think back to where we were in october 2023 as well. i think we need to step back and see how we got here. i think the, the hope that joe biden is certainly putting forward is that his party remains in

power. and that even if it is not him, it is carmella harris and so far were saying that she is more or less fond of following the bite. and the policy towards this area of the world towards this, that this more and towards israel, that bite and has, and i think that should she, she, when there is a hope that perhaps that might shift somewhat. and if after, if, after all, she doesn't, when it is trump that wins, then i think that we have already a pretty good blueprint of how he supports netanyahu. and a number of seats claims that israel has made in the past. and that this will. and in a different way. so i think in that case is more likely that there will actually be quite a bit of changing the borders of them, at least mom and let me bring you back in and, and thank you for your patience. as you look at this from different,

i mean the guys are part of this. um, how, how do you and lives this? where do you think it might be good? us in gaza, we have a genocide. we have an ongoing holocaust. we see the north and casa being starved, and people being massacred with the support of the west. so the west here is also destroying it, say major, across the world. the world sees what's going on and gaza. this is not like b, janet sides of old. these are being carried out in front of our eyes, and this is going to have an enormous impact on that. you can the future because the world has changed and attitudes towards this riley regime has changed. yeah, the martyrdom of the s n y is not going to, we can how much it's going to make it much more popular. and today, when we see that there's riley regime is being defeated on the borders with 11 on as well as emerging, stronger despite the martyrdom of say, it has. and that's for the fact that there's really reason can't make inroads into

11 on half a month. says a lot and these miscalculations are based upon the fact that they don't recognize that this the world has changed, but also the region has changed and the people of 11 on and palestine have changed . so ultimately i think that we are going to see a defeat. nothing. yeah. who will not succeed? he can't expand all he wants, but he's in the past the, there's riley's, when they attack the trip, it went all the way to this was cut out here. they can't take a doc on the map called casa, in the, in 1982, they invaded levin on went all the way to be rude in days. here. they're stuck on the border after a month, even though they have murdered. yeah, he us in war and say it has that and that's for a lot. and i think that shows that the world has changed and that the americans and europeans are going to have to face reality. and that's the time we have to have for today. i want to thank all our guests for taking part in this discussion. as

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