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tv   The Stream Ep 86  Al Jazeera  October 28, 2024 10:30pm-11:01pm AST

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and around is me cleansing genocide. it's uh it's, it's a genocide, clean and simple. i think the i c j should be watching for what is right is are saying they're doing. it's basically every day is that every day and is there in the bottom demand, and is there a government for the it is a, the military operations guys are, is, is more and more evidence that goes to the, the national criminal court on international court of justice. i guess the penny all for the work arms and against is right and for the it's getting genocide against the palestinian people. so there is no doubt from the media from the short term that this is meant the star. this is meant to do the for the senior people. this is meant to can but a signature. there's not the way of looking at today. there's all the work to feed but a signature. when you've got that, you are actually saying i'm there purposefully. colleen's better signature than
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millions of that. there is no questions about that. no, this is amy upfront on the long run. strategically speaking, what is there is doing is basically i'm doing the one agency that takes care of for the student who refugees the participating or if it use or is or is original same. it's what it did to the palestinian people in order to build. these are and it was directed on the demolition on the destruction on the ashes of the frustrated people increasing benefit g problems. they think that by doing the way it would otherwise they would do are we would data for g problem that is really big, taking care of almost 4000000 palestinian brokerages and the defenders. so this is the long term strategy visit. i don't think it's going to work, but clearly it is so much said isn't. is there any parliament and so much count would be totally i, i see to advise western powers to that is that this thing continues unabated. how i
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think that was sitting is as complicating the process, you should or any of any aspect of this, of this for this problem of the problem of the occupation and the disposition of the persons and the one at this point. i think it would be important to look at the foundation of israel bossing these bows as well as accused or members of having ties to a mouse accused on members of participating in the attack on october 7th, but at no point providing any credible evidence. in fact, this, this has been discredited. i once cannot. one cannot over estimate this, but one cannot overstate this issue. one cannot over emphasize this point that you just made because we've been going got it for a whole year now as a, as a, as a media, as a, as a, as a tremendous thing. the situation that we are we continuously pro question,
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practiced verify, full size and so on, so forth, right? investigate that. and so on support for the whole year, we've been debunking the mix that creates everything. but this is like a mist creating machine. it continues to manufacture lives like there is no tomorrow. right. so every day, manufacturers new bit. yesterday they were saying that soon wars car wasn't on the west side. of course, on the we're have to look into it that day. is it that this person that they're talking about actually lives in egypt? they have to do that. i don't need to do that. i think we as one of those, we need to stop doing that because we know i'm seeing not once, not twice, not 10 times, not 20, not 100, not 1000 times. how is a lies about what it's doing and gaza is right, lies about a mass being on the hospitals and in hospitals, i'm what hospitals next to to bury kindergarten. it just, all of these allegations,
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none of the goals and all of them. the bung, unfortunately, repeated by western official just like the collect. so i'm going to blank and of the united states and others and a rag we seem to have lost lawanda show right on the connection seems to be weak, but we will be speaking to him again at some point decimal run. bushera a, he's out, is there a senior political analyst and he's in the law? no, but in the program we are correspondent john henderson to speaking with us state department spokesperson, matthew muller, about the tax on hospitals in garza. and in that briefing will also address the israel bowl to ban on rock. of course, he was speaking just before the contents of pasta bowl. but let's now go to join hands when he's in washington dc. john, what did we hear from matthew miller on, on what tonight as well, this was before the actual was actually has actually taken place in israel. and
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miller said, the u. s. government couldn't possibly have made it clear to me is really government. this is an unacceptable action. this reveals a risk between israel and the us and a rift between israel and the united nations. he said that the result of this will be that children, babies, women will be unable to receive humanitarian assistance in gaza. he said that there is no other organization capable of doing this right now. i'll read you a little of what he said. he said, we've made clear to the government of israel that we are deeply concerned by this proposed legislation. you said the secretary of state have brought this up with those rarely officials about 2 weeks ago. and he said this has implications under us law. and what that means is there restrictions on the aid, the, the u. s. gives to israel and that at triggering some kind of rupture and humanitarian assistance that could trigger the u. s. to withhold aid from israel.
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it's essentially a threat to the is really government that if they go forward with this, they could lose the military aid from your chief sponsor. here in the united states, he went on to say in a number of important ways, the relationship between israel and the un is not productive. he said, not one that serves the citizens of israel. well, he said we've earned it israel to work more cooperatively with the un, particularly with you to manage cherry and assistance organizations over the last us are, is really going forward with this action against us, the advice and it's going to us condemns. now it's really up to the us to react to what is real, is done there and, and don't when way to pull that reaction given that they had pretty should as well, or at least with trying to pressure as well into providing aid allowing age into gaus and how do you imagine they would respond? do you think that they would hold that promise that they would not provide military
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aid? is that likely? it's a very difficult thing for the us government to do, particularly right now in election season. not that that should be a primary consideration. they should be worried about covering governing. but it would have implications for the presidential race between cala harris and donald trump. they both have very different positions on this, but the us position here is that there's literally no other agency that can deliver that aid other than on. right. so essentially, this isn't the words of matt miller, but essentially what he was saying is this is going to be a death sentence to people who will not be able to get food, water, and other assistance. so there is a chance that you'll see a reaction here we, we did have us government officials saying that it was completely unacceptable that there was a 2 week break where aid was not getting in through the roof of passage. and i
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expect that you're gonna hear some strong wording for the u. s. government about this in reaction to it probably is high up is the white house, but whether that actually means they will move forward and cut off aid that is unclear. at this point, the us has temporarily withheld access to some of their biggest bombs. i believe those were 2000 pound bonds that they had been sending to israel. they've done that in the past. is kind of a shot across about it. israel for some of these humanitarian policies and for some of the massive civilian casualties that we've seen in there. and gaza will have to wait to see exactly what the reaction is, but you can be certain that the rhetorical reaction will be strong, whether they will follow up with an actual cut off and aid that remains to be see. if we look back to on of any us attempts to have is it'll get weighed into the strip succeeded. over this past year. the state department would say that its pressure has been heated. that is real,
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would react differently. i had it not had the us as a partner, i think here in this building, for instance, israel had held off on another front and in a, it's a retaliatory attack against iran because it was listening to us advice over a matter of weeks about how it should conduct that, that it should hit military targets, etc. in this case, you as says also that it has been effective and ensuring that a gets through gaza, they can always explain specifically what that was. but the recent pressure on israel to uh to allow that da page of aid to gaza to make that continued or, or to restore that a delivery of us believe it was effective in doing that, by threatening israel at every time. it says that this could invoke a u. s. law. that is a reference to cutting off aid israel. that is a direct threat to the israeli government. and that is what we heard
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a inside the state department briefing a little earlier. i expect we're going to hear something from as high up as the whitehouse perhaps the secretary of state himself in the coming days. all right john and going in washington dc. thanks very much for that. let's bring in uh gabriel elizondo. she's at the un headquarters in new york gave. oh yeah, we heard you. oscar steph onto george. he's the you insight with the general spokesman. you asked him about what he would do, what the you and would do if israel band or why his answer was you can expect our response to be in line with all warnings. and i'll remind us what well, those warnings as well. the warnings, quite frankly, from the secretary general for several weeks now, or that if israel was to go forward with this a central band of unreal operating there, it would have dramatic negative effects for millions of palestinians that
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rely on unreal. this is clearly a major blow to unwrap we have reached out again to the secretary general's spokes person to ask for an updated comment. now that this bill or bills i should say have been passed. we have not quite heard back yet. but he said earlier that they would wait and see what kind of operational impact this bill would have on. i'm risk capacity to continue to work. i mean, you can't guarantee you, there are un lawyers that are going to be sifting through this legislation. now that it is passed to see really what exactly it means, parsing the language to figure out how they continue, can continue to do their work, or if they can even continue to do their work. so there's going to be a lot of late nights here un headquarters in new york and elsewhere as officials try to figure out how to move forward. after this. clearly there's
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a blow to unwrap and a clear another clear attempted by israel to dismantle unreal altogether. and gave i want to ask you about that and i'm not certain if at this point clarity has been provided. but a little make goes very little. make a daniel, as he had said, that it would take, perhaps $60.00, to $90.00 days full of bose to become b in effect. is that in line with what you might have heard the in terms of the notification period to the you and, and what possibly could happen now as well, we'll have to wait and see. quite frankly, i think the u. n. is in is asking the same questions. again, this was legislation that was just passed and i think now you have unreal officials, un officials, both in amman were unreal as headquartered at to as a regional headquarters, as well as here in new york at un headquarters. and i think they're having to sort of figure out when will they get the notification from israeli government on this?
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what are the exact words in these bills? listen, it appears to be essentially a band. but when it comes to lawyer, a lawyer is parsing words here, essential isn't enough. they need to see every single word, every single sentence and figure out what the one is going to do. moving forward. now i can tell you the secretary general about 3 weeks ago sent a letter to benjamin netanyahu, stating his deep concerns about these bills and, and urging that yahoo to, to, to take these bills off the table and not let the, the, the, the part of me go forward with this. i should point out that the relationship between the secretary general and the prime minister of israel, but netanyahu is non existant. they have not spoken personally even a one time since october of last year and at yahoo is here in un headquarters. give me a speech at the un general assembly. uh,
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just late last month. he did not meet with the secretary general. he will not take up the phone on the secretary general, tries to call him so the relationship between the un in general and his real, but particularly between the secretary general and at yahoo is flat out broken. in fact, these really for administer just a few weeks ago, said that to the secretary general is now persona non grata in israel. so this situation or which has really gone from bad to worse. and now the real question is, what is the un going to do about it moving forward? these are key question is in the coming really hours and days the u. n. has said consistently, even though they've had more than $230.00 unreal staff members killed in the last year during israel's war. and guys that the un is consistently said we will not leave palestine, we will not leave. we will not leave guys. so we provide essential services for people that need it more now more than ever. so we'll have to see if that pastor
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changes at all, given these new developments from these really parliament, gabe, is it possible at this point to perhaps look at what the un might do? what are the potential scenarios, given that as you've said, israel and the united nations, their relationship is that an all time low you spoke about and to new good tears being banned from israel. and not only that, but on my head. phillips as if we knew also prevented from entering the gaza strip the relationship that israel has with the us as well to say the very least is, is frosty. what do you think could happen next? well, there's a whole host of scenarios here, but the u. n. could continue to do its work under these circumstances. that is certainly a scenario that's out there. let's not forget a israel has been putting restrictions on unwrapped for more than
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a year now. it's been bombing unrest. schools that have been turned into shelters has been killing unrest out. it currently does not give visas tote to, to the commissioner general of unruh to visit very so i'm or has been under incredible restrictions for more than a year now. accusations thrown again it's, it's from israel most they've not been proven to be accurate. so you could see a scenario where the u. n basically says, let's continue to do our work as best as we can. but again, they have to look closely at this legislation because it benz is rarely officials from having any sort of interaction with any unreal officials. and that leads to the important thing here and that's humanitarian. a audra is the main body if you will, that that, that receives a coming in to guy. so or i should more accurately point out
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a bit is not getting into guys because of israel restrictions. so what happens now in terms of that is, is really the question that we did it already is realize restricted a going into northern gaza and is essentially starving palestinians in northern guys that, that is from the un officials themselves. at this point though, the little bit of a that's trying to get in that could now potentially stop. now, danny didn't on the is really on bass or the you and just had a stake out. spoke to some journalist here just within the last half hour. this was right before this legislation passed and he was asked about this and he said, well, for example, when it comes to the polio exceed campaign in gaza, which is on hold right now because of a vision as rarely bombardment to northern god. he said, we can work with the w h o and unicef on that. we don't have to work with audra. it's not that simple because under a handles,
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it's so much in guys that particularly as well as elsewhere that it's not a simple matter of. now is real saying will this work with the w h o because i'm right is involved in almost every thing in guys and it is as a un secretary general has said, as many of foreign ministers have said, many heads of state have said, henri, uh, is your replaceable, but that is exactly what israel is trying to do. and essentially it could lead to more innocent palestinians losing their lives. gabriel is under at the united nations. thanks very much for that. well, we're just here right now last and only want me to advise was commented to well to 0. and he said that israel's decision to ban the organizations operation is an unprecedented escalation. meanwhile, is really probably but a civilian menace. and y'all was also made a statement on social media. often that bull was paused, that's banned on why. and he said, sustained,
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humanitarian aid must remain available in gaza now and in the future. he's also said own real work is involved in what he calls terrorist activities against israel must be held accountable. let's get a quick reminder of what on right is nearly the entire population and gaza relies on roughly basic needs. the united nations relief and works agency for palestinian refugees was created in 1949. and there was to support palestinians forcibly displaced in 1948 and watch. it was because of the question of as well known by palestinians as a knuckle or catastrophe today. and supposedly 6000000 palestinian refugees in 58 comes across garza. the occupied was bank jordan liber known as well as syria. as of last year of 545000 children when rolled and on was 709 schools. the agency also runs a 140 primary health care facilities and more than 50000 palestinians work for the
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agency across the middle east. or also encourages and supports the rights of palestinian refugees to return to their homeland. and that's stipulated in the un general assembly resolution $19.00 full which is l rejects are less returned to more one of the sharra ultra 0 senior political analyst. he's joining us here in the door would want i want to go back to watch these really prime minister opinion minutes and now has said on social media in the last few minutes and for you or request for you to make sense of it. and you said stage amount of to an age must remain available in gaza now and in the future. how does he say that? how does he say that off to the contents of bands, the largest agency designed to help fellow stadiums as i'm not sure which country the, the phase comes from,
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but this is something about for fund. i think it's an american drawing the phrase, he speaks in a forks tongue. of course, i mean, you know, the man lives like there's no tomorrow. he's been cold and seen even by his age, by his allies, by his name blurs as a pathological liar. so he's basically protecting his back look, this is very important because he knows that this decision will have for a to go. so now he is being pursued by the international criminal court prosecutor for financing on that for stopping the people who doesn't he and got his defense minister are pursued for exactly that. what but not additional hunger. so as he passes or as you sponsor, there's a law that really bad on, on a wall trunk, getting face services,
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intensive distribution code at the sometimes you said we should have for 8 because of because he knows that this kind of legislation sponsored by his core edition park and this will be used as evidence that gives payment. there's defense minister and the international criminal court. there is no better proof that he is hampering the distribution of age necessary phone. just to that, show the guys out then by on the cutting, by undermining by blocking or norwalk, the owner, the agency capable of distributing food to the people who cause i'm other bases all sitting in refuge, a little one when you talk about the evidence and what is also very important that this point is at this point while day is a continuing case against these role in terms of genocide and the lack of assistance to palestinians with a it's medicine, whether it's food,
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any sort of emergency aid again today. so that i forgot the evidence at the i c j regarding this allegation, against a 0 of genocide. how will this all be weighed up if need to know who is trying to cover himself politically? because practically speaking his statements and what's happening and because they don't correlate i think don't the reason why the i c c has not katty this decision. i guess nothing. you know, i'm get along here. it's because of american british pressure. i think they are the ones who are trying to for the size, the national criminal court. i'm trying to pressure trying to undermine it from getting its duties against what criminals, such as nothing now and color. now, as the i, c, j i the i c c, deliberate right there. the data judges are watching what we are watching and they
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are really what we are we, what are the things that would read that line is just a thing. this law, this bill is in fact violating international because as a member state of the united nations, it has to abide by its charter. now i think this 1st section to and. busy into how there's a whole bunch of other uh, i mention that within the charter that speaks specifically about member states a think and facilitating power thing. you and agencies carry their attributes by blocking or you and they just see the way they are doing, especially in occupied territories. they are buying anything below in a number of ways already. and this is just the last, the last, the latest one of them. but this one specifically goes to the accusation to the, to the, to the position of genocide where they are indicted for plausible genocide,
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then that the national a huge r i c j, the international court of justice. and i think it is key that is read continues to double down the producing level down, hoping that the united states and great britain and, and germany would, will somehow save him from those global course. but i told you one thing for sure, the course of the national public opinion is not going to be forgiving towards. right. and i think the petition include the ability over the i see, see, and i see g are hanging in the bottoms today. i think the credibility of western powers are hanging in the bed and stay because if they cannot protect and it's tension agency like one little today. if they cannot protect the institutions that they have established, the united nations against a country that's basically an outdoor the country with an hour to 3. she called in
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at the national government this week getting a german southern guys has been getting and got on to patients. okay. but assuming story 34, almost 6 decades, if the best we can do is express great concern. then i think we as an international committee, we as humanity, we are not just in crisis. we are in deep trouble of the one. what is the crisis ultimately that the united states might be facing at this point? to give you an example, there's a group of, of bipartisan us congress members. we have said that if israel is affected in any way in terms of it states as into un, it's threatened to reduce american funding to the united nations and you've raised an important point that the united states. this is a global body, the u. n. is a global body that the united states has, is, should be protecting a,
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should be upholding the principles of what crisis, what crisis just very quickly is the us facing in terms of pressure. there's no doubt that throughout the states have been putting a lot of pressure to the united nations. but i think is there, i was actions are so flagrant that it has to be protected at this point in time. and you've got dimensions would have to carry it on vacations, under international law, and helping refugees that are subjective to genocide is an essential responsibility. permissions agencies like like why do you not sit, should not be bucking that. in fact, the united nations are due to is are, and what did the soft after they should have on the face. it will have to leave it on that point to unfortunately are running out of time. lawanda shara speaking to us in the law of to 0 senior political analyst and well, that's it for me, somebody the, for just a moment. just a reminder of the breaking news we've been covering. the solid is where the
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politicians have possibles to band. are you an urgency for palestinian refugees from operating with an israel will have more in just a moment to stay with us. the english as a content creators have become journalists, rescuers, but heroes system, the company and targets to to customers. so when a visa comes, you meet on and yet they continue to report the cause of this is the story of just want to be should be a let me know that had been hired for the loved focus on. that just either is one of the classrooms that holding music and seeing sessions or what is working with edward, sorry,
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