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hello there and welcome to the program. i'm nor kyle. the united states says 10000 north korean soldiers and now on russian soil preparing to enter the war against ukraine most. so in russia's cost region, while ukraine north account to invasion, almost 3 months ago, fighting that has been intense and some i'm, let's say the addition of north korean troops could change the dynamics of the conflict of the kremlin struggles to in this new recruits. feeling young has placed unwavering support from all skype. the bottom of hooton's reach for north korean troops reveal and military stretched the breaking point. or was this a sign of russian strength as it builds new alliance as well. those deeper into these issues with all guess shortly. but for us, this report from exl pharma vege veto, who's thousands of soldiers from one of the world's most isolated nations heading to the battlefield for the 1st time. we know, assess that there are some $10000.00 most korean soldiers in total in russia. and

the recent information indicates that as many as 8000 of those north reinforces had been deployed to the cursed region. we've not yet seen these troops deploy and to combat against ukrainian forces, but we would expect that to happen in the coming days. the crowd work was late the september last year when it came home to and made the rear for an trip to meet vladimir, put in and rushed as far east for russia facing heavy casualties and a recruitment challenges. the soldiers help feel a crucial gap without risking another unpopular domestic mobilization, which is the the day after the software. the putin is checking the reaction of the waste foods in his checking the reaction of nato countries. susan is also checking the reaction of south korea, and i believe that after all of these reactions, susan will decide and increase a contingent. i'll put you in for north korea, the benefits are several. it's military hasn't seen major combat since the korean

a bore armistice in 1953. the war and ukraine provides a rare opportunity to gain battlefield experience with modern weapons and tactics. there's also money involved. it's estimated that each north korean soldier a pull are in around $2000.00 a month. but most of the salary will go straight to the leadership and beyond gang, combined with weapons sales worth an estimated $5500000000.00. this deployment is a financial lifeline. for the heavily sanctioned nation bianca and also helps russia bill share military technology, including nuclear and a missile expertise union in conjunction with you. and we have no doubts under the wise leadership of the esteemed president of the russian federation. vladimir putin, the russian army, and people such in the achieve a great victory in the sacred struggle to protect the sultan rights and security interests of the state. so, and we once again assured that until the day of victory,

we will always family style next to our russian come rates. washington says the deployment violate 0 security council resolutions. as north korea has been under sanctions since 2006, all rates of nuclear programs and it's built but moscow is defiance, which is about they do motion for the staples. i want to put one question to you. even if every thing that's being said about cooperation between russia and north korea by our western colleagues is true. why is it for the united states and its allies are trying to impose on everyone's the flawed logic that they have the right to help? the zalinski regime mobilize for military and intelligence of nato and russian allies have no right to do a similar thing. you will do us says any north korean troops entering combat and ukraine and will become legitimate to military targets. and now south korea is considering direct the military a to crane, further straining relations on the korean peninsula. axels i merge alger 0 for inside story. the well

that's welcome. ok. now in the single pool graham on web, an i don't follow at as much about them. school of international studies, and most the pebble fall gonna have the list of political commentator and intake here at craig, mark lecture at jose university, and also of all the restoration contemporary japanese politics and reformation of a welcome again to all of you. now pabo we've heard from the us and they to, i'm the you that those korean troops all in russia. we've not yet had confirmation from either rochelle or north korea all the the the officially us need their opinion on their moscow are confirming, but they're not free with the 92. and they just sent them. the reason it was just happened to by the north drury and from minister to moscow, she was talking about standing with the russian military supporting the russian

army fully to victory. and that rhetoric well could indicate that to the entry of a north korean for soldiers into the fire, it seems rather email that i would say ok, how do you think this is going to what? and it just took a if we could just talk some best people from name and because of good north korean troops sort of being trained in very different ways and they have a very different language. so how is this gonna work on the battlefield? it was basically the luxury of the training is so yes, so that will help a bit better. my very weaponry that they use is the classic also the adult there. there are also some problems. there are reports that are nice to me is are being there with. ready from the far east or to europe in russia and handed out to weapons when they arrive. and that means yes, so her role. so again, go wash,

think of a, so the drivers, but there are different solar to much more modern, 9 different ballistics, different caliber and they are not trained to use uh, uh, drones that are right. they're used to massively, by both sides in the creating of war. of course, they don't speak russian at all. and the man that means that there's going to be a language barrier there. so yes, there's going to be lots of problems of trying to integrate them directly into the fight since north korea and russian moultrie have not had the maneuvers together, didn't train for many, many decades since the korean war to be co op or a boat on the battlefield, so they'll have to lay a word and as, as they go, eh, hi, given all these different says on the relatively small of them. but if you're looking at it in terms of the number of options, soldiers on the bottle failed. no difference of these nose quinn troops likely to

make to the war. well, i think you go make a module difference in millage features. but in terms of symbolic importance, they obviously have a great appeal for vladimir prudence given that the russians have suffered grievous losses. uh, estimated of 800000 did half a 1000000 wounded much probably high even $10000.00 australian troops can make a bit of a marginal difference, particularly if the guy to be employed on the coast cross as a report suggest. but essentially, a glad to be put in a piece to be making a statement through this deployment that some russia is uh, taking advantage of its uh, a lights with your career,

which it has been steadily building up of the past couple of years of close this been reports which but the russian, north korea initially denied that. and north korea has been supplied munitions to russia and previously possibly some advisors on the use of the technology such as michelle's and rockets boss. this is such a dramatic story intervention with the cause. this being the 1st time north korean troops have been deployed in combat and overseas seems to create and war. it's obviously much more of a diplomatic statement. the then i'm the one i think according to what i sent to agree with that the best deployment on the bottle failed at least, will only make a much no difference. well, thank you for having me on the show. i respect creates comment,

i think. and in the on so this looks quite symbolic. it's a diplomatic gesture, a commitment to an agreement that was made as beat as june and thumbs up the signing of a mutual defense pat. oh, a mutual defense clause at features within a strategic comprehensive partnership between russia and north korea. but i think we need to watch a situation a little bit more closely. i think we get down into the prospect. so was going to happen in the cost region. i think the picture looks slightly different, so i think right now it is true that these 10000 also troops assignments are using and adapting themselves to the conditions, the weather conditions and it's a reading and the way in which direction. but if you operate at least within the cossack region, which they will be committed to. but i think we need to want to with that. and so we weeks and months. and so how these 10000 troops before, what are the rules going to be exactly what's available on one open media,

right. no media reports yet appear to be playing a support me to be expected to walk, you know, logistical rule and support rule will contribute to defective occasions and to the supply tree and and whatnot. with a small tional dis, $10000.00 troops presumably. but the soldiers from the storm full, but i think as, as we go along, these troops can be expected to become more optimal as the lead on the job, and will be expected to fill other roles as rocking troops fees, challenges on the ground. so i think we need to watch it. the other thing i'd like to add is that it's not a static situation. we because of the full full to the possibility that north korea, i mean get more troops. well, the title til and pebble, i mean we get to the question, that is why north korea would do this. why would it deploy its troops? as craig says, this is historic. it's not a deployed troops and come back for many, many years. what would also be giving in return

a little russia has to be given money to begin with and actually uh, the coverage of the game earlier than, i mean were sending troops as dramatic. but dr. is provide the i'm of the for the russian, the guns, the russian houses and the south to reinstate is up to 10000000 rounds, which is a lot. and that is more really strategically important then for the russian military because the credit credit present fighting into your brain consumes norma somehow. so a heavy house or shells for north korea, it's a, i mean, do or i so late is for many, many years, especially after the end of the cold war, they were almost done for us to ration. and now they, they tried to boot under the president, donald trump, but better relationship with america that didn't work out. and now they have

a nuclear super power as their sort of ally. and that's for them very, very important. it also has one could be a supply of money also from the troops, most of their. 5 worry which is mastery in terms of the, my very high russian soldiers that pay the minimum of about a $2000.00 a month and then the for the premium war. and that's a lot for north korea. and of course, hold them back to that one is going to go direct to the coffers and can young. so that's really it has a lot to in there also, we're most likely you're to get the rest of the technologies. you'll have to see russian weapons. so you are you fighters because of the one they have are very old, some other in the russian new weaponry. and that's for them would be very important politically, technically. and they are slack. we may have actually initiated more descending of these troops. the mosque. ready you know, craig,

obviously asia east asia especially is watching the situation very closely. probably with some alarm to see north korea's involvement so closely tied with russia in the ukraine. if we focus on the korean peninsula, it's been 70 years since the korean war ended in a truce. but sama saying the north korea and south korea and now engaging in a proxy war in europe. would you agree with that? i'm to i lose that extends, it depends to my mind is to be saying how south korea especially relax um in south korea uh carries out large scale supplies of the weapons and munitions to you, cried. then that would certainly make the case that there is a bit of a proxy indirect war happening because it hasn't he and no i have not yet, but that is that done the bridge?

why that would happen in the past year, especially since the, the unit ministration relations have been steadily to tear writing between north and south korea. and just recently, a couple weeks ago, and the north koreans around a spectacularly destroyed blew up the road and right weeks just over the border between north and south korea, a re, uh, uh, industrial area where in the past the been uh, negotiations to create across the board of trade. so uh, in fossil side is being uh, the cycle. the delusion was, uh, you know, i'm sending some balloons basically to garbage over to the south. and the south korea was originally sending dryer and supposed to balance to north. so this diplomatic deterioration between north and south korea is also i potentially

escalating through this proxy if it's in ukraine. oh, graham taurus, and do you agree with that? let me know if chris saying now that he does not want to seek reconciliation with the south is craig's, and it's tested at 1st intercontinental ballistic missile this year. it's rhetoric is the heightening saying that it's an explosive situation on the peninsula. is it seeking conflict at this time? it's an old career seeking conflict with the solve you're asking? yes. well, well i, it's, it's hard to save. it is explicitly so, but i think it is clearly being very but address the reset posturing or decision by north korea to sending troops into a rush up to assist the russian side is clearly not constructive. i mean, the solve 3 in the government is up in arms clearly and be watching the new cycle closely. the national intelligence service,

which at the intelligence agency under the solve the government is providing a lot of ongoing reports and statements or concerns about what this can mean in north south relation. so clearly it's not, it's not, it's not a constructive development. it is, in fact the destructive development and it remains to be seen how software is going through yet. it's interesting that was a study that was conducted of those, published by the center for strategic and international studies that us based think about how south korea indications that south korea me seek to move away from. it's not legal aid policy under the unit ministration to, to more to something a little bit more. and so that is this um, the discussion of all of supplying the premium military with more often every, i mean dish admission to which the solve korean with looks like it has an apple supply for bucket the cloth amunition uh the $105.00 millimeter artillery shells to

which it does not need so much anymore. and presumably this supply would be useful to you. you create into the treaty. so, are you supposed to be watching this, the bottom of the sea? oh, wow. korea is going to do next. i got the country of coast to be keeping a close eye on the middle. this is china, capital china as being growing closer to russia since it started this war in ukraine. it's never old. it's also never send weapons to most guy, but what it support this north career troops transfer right now john is saying that this is a problem, but we must have been young and that it's their summer and bright to do what they ever once of use on the though there be an indication of the child is not very happy, because if this was a additional pension in the korean peninsula of, that's not what china actually once they're just happened, they want stability,

their child will not be germany. and then this set for the 1st because trays review are from the united states as mary, very strategically important for gender. they won't do anything. ready that we decide shows a secondary sanctions on on them, but they won't those so either they won't condemn it too. so china is going to keep trying to keep a low profile and hope that this doesn't bring any kind of serious escalation just from the left turn. it really doesn't change the strategic out the way on the front lines in your brain. so it's a politic pro, a symbolic se, but it's if it doesn't really infringe on chinese insurance, jazz interest is mostly stability in the dream peninsula. child is going to try and therefore have her hands off of the kids. i believe. and grand,

do you agree with that because it's kind of see it has kim cohen's even though with chris one of his main allies, it also has a certain degree of influence. i have a china and it's enjoying that position in the region. but to what extent does this new alumni is a stronger alliance between russia and north chris threats and china is influence a degree. i concur with the populace assessment um you know, that i thought for some time trying to had um, well, but not quite a monopoly of its influence over north korea. but the dominant influence. ready the north korea and even even the americans have tons of time. no, no. and then to sort of get the north koreans to come down on wretched things down when things got cheap, cheap at all. but now china has to compete with russia been having influence over what north korea can will do. and this creates a problem for china, particularly at a time when north korea is attracting too much attention. on ne agent,

security of this to north korea's recent overtures, it's seem a rattling, it's icbm test and what advice to come down the road which is not working very good . and this is just just building the sheet on the region in china would like things to stay in the state of school because things already like tennis between china and the west, possibly the united states and as part of the trying to sell them a balanced situation. because it's intricately tied to the wisdom of san francisco with the economy. and so pregnancy can only interest trump at this time as well. and also have things go talk to you thought of you. so right now, i think that is a fair amount of concern within the chinese government. my want to do regarding this recent development, and it seems to be losing a little bit of control over all the insurance in north korea. i mean, that may well be a very tense relationship between the us and china,

but that's not stopping to us all skiing china to try to prevent north korea sending troops to russia. craig, the question is, is china willing to do that? and indeed, kind of do that. you know, i don't think there's much china can do uh, to restrict, uh, the uh, any deployment by north korea to russia, whether it's our troops or weapons for that matter. since of course, china has been in the same thing directly supporting the rushes war. if it's a new crime through uh, supplies and critical technologies and also diabetes just in general way of important training pot. uh uh for russia and of course the north korea, north korea overwhelmingly, remains dependent on shawn or at least 90 percent of its trade. and so in that sense, china does have some limited leverage. ivan,

north korea and china also as was mentioned, is, will not be enthusiastic to say, north korea, escalating tensions too much in the region, including through it's only solved testing. but ultimately, the, the is the kind of limits what shawn, it can do to stop by jim jones rising and letting me present, cooperating to the extent that they have. oh, i'm pablo. the us are that's amazing. that china is recruiting a whopping 25230000 soldiers, new soldiers every month, just to replace the dead and the wounded on the battlefield. how desperately does russia need these north korean men? the numbers right now though, according to president, will i be my fortune? there is over 600000 russian service men of the board in the war

zone and your brains. so additional troops most likely will be welcome. but i don't think search if they've changed that much because the numbers are not very fine. it's how it will be problems to integrate them on the battlefield. so most likely to be done very gradually. and so that's more symbolic, but supplier freed north korean support is important politically and it's important very much is that they have been sharing their stock files. a heavy thoughts are the 1225 inch and 150 to 6 inch guns. and the that is strategically important a, so most to read a as a a. now why is this ready to stand with russia? because a lot of us, 3 was isolated, rushes passed away because of course, but the directory is the process of buying a supporting on the battlefield would be very important. and hopefully it won't

bring your additional aspiration either in the far east nor, and the opinion, which was jim. uh then for that, for rest of that would be a contagious i would say craig rushes war and ukraine is being seen now as a, as a war of attrition. the longer it continues on the known good news career is sending troops to russia. we understand that dialogues are continuing between the 2 sides, so we are likely to see more troops arrived in the future. but of course, that would then mean more money for the north korean regime and it stops hot, doesn't it? so we'll say impact is this going to have on north korea as a country, as well. uh, is uh vladimir treatment supplies. uh no, not really. um, money in funds, but also technology that will only enhance and encourage that can germans rising to continue the development of nuclear weapons,

particularly icbm and also the north korea has one of the largest landed armies in the world over 1200000 trips. so there is a potential for conjunction to supply the russia with a troops for months and possibly their use to count. so that is quite a, it, this threatens to only exchange of the war and you try and put the further pressure on the president zalinski government. and uh, it really uh, ups the ante and puts, the diplomatic pressure on ukraine's back is particularly the, the european union and also gone and states and other countries like japan and just generally outside of your pin america, which is also supported you crime mostly for natural but some equipment supplies as

well. so north korea, as you've been mentioning on this battle, has definitely escalated and listens the situation in your, in the current anymore. i called many things and days to all guests for joining us today. very interesting discussion. grant on web hobble folks and how and craig mach to i'm thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time 5, a single website that's out is there a dot com? i've had a discussion. do good. well, facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a inside story. you know the doing the conversation on x or homeless at a inside story from me laura kyle, i'm the whole team here. bye for now. the pod here came in to be and they say that your government has repressive policies

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