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hello there and welcome to the program. i'm more kyle. the united states says 10000 north korean soldiers and now on boston soil preparing to enter the war against ukraine most. so in russia's cost region, while ukraine north account to invasion, almost 3 months ago, fighting that has been intense and some i'm, let's say the addition of north korean troops could change the dynamics of the conflict of the crime and struggles to in this new recruits. feeling young has placed unwavering support from all skype. the bottom of hooton's reach for north korean troops reveal and military stretch, the breaking point. what was this a sign of russian strength as it builds new alliance as well? those deeper into these issues with, i'll guess shortly. but for us, this report from x, obama, which we don't use thousands of soldiers from one of the world's most isolated nations heading to the battlefield. for the 1st time. we know, assess, there are some $10000.00 or 3 and soldiers in total, in russia. and the recent information indicates that as many as 8000 of those north

reinforces have been deployed to the cursed region. we've not yet seen these troops deploy and to combat against ukrainian forces. but we would expect that to happen in the coming days. the crowd work was late the september last year when it came home to and made the rear for an trip to meet vladimir, put in and rushed as far east for russia facing heavy casualties and a recruitment challenges. the soldiers help feel a crucial gap without risking another unpopular domestic mobilization, which is the out to soften. putin is checking the reaction of the waste foods in his checking the reaction of nato countries. susan is also checking the reaction of south korea, and i believe that after all of these reactions, susan will decide and increase a contingent applicant for north korea. the benefits are several. it's military hasn't seen major combat since the korean

a bore armistice in 1953. the war and ukraine provides a rare opportunity to gain battlefield experience with modern weapons and tactics. there's also money involved. it's estimated that each north korean soldier pool or in around $2000.00 a month. but most of the salary will go straight to the leadership and beyond gang, combined with weapons sales worth an estimated $5500000000.00. this deployment is a financial lifeline for the heavily sanction nation bianca and also hopes russia will share military technology, including nuclear estimates, sol, expertise to me in, in conjunction with you. and we have no doubts to unto the wise leadership of the esteemed president of the russian federation vladimir putin, the russian army, and people such in the achieve a great victory in the sacred struggle to protect the suffering rights and security interests of the state. so, and we once again to show that until the day of victory, we will always family style next to our russian comm rates. washington says the

deployment violate 0 security council resolutions. as north korea has been under sanctions since 2006 over at some nuclear programs and it still, but moscow is defiance, which is about a new motion for us to be able. i want to put one question to you, even if every thing that's being said about cooperation between russia and north korea by our western colleagues is true. why is it for the united states and its allies are trying to impose on everyone's the flawed logic that they have the right to help? the zalinski regime mobilize for military and intelligence of nato and russian allies have no right to do a similar thing. you will put them in the us says any north korean troops entering combat and ukraine will become legitimate the military targets. and now south korea is considering direct the military a to crane, further straining relations on the korean peninsula. axels, i merge algebra for inside story.

the well, that's welcome. ok. now in the single pool graham on web, i don't follow at as much about them. school of international studies, and most go probably going to how much list and political commentator and, and took a trademark electra at jose university and also of all the restoration contemporary japanese politics and reformation of a welcome again to all of you know patio. we've heard from the us nato. i'm a you that those korean troops all in russia. we've not yet had confirmation from either rochelle or north korea, although the a little officially use me. their opinion on their moscow are confirming, but they're not free with the 92. and they just put them the reason to just happen to buy the north tray and from minister to moscow, she was talking about standing with the russian military supporting the russian

army fully to victory. and that rhetoric well could indicate that to the entry of, uh, north korean for soldiers into the fire, it seems rather email that i would say, okay, how do you think this has been to what and the district if we could just talk some best people for a moment because a good north korean troops sort of been trained and very different ways and they have a very different language. so how is this going to work on the battlefield? it was basically the luxury and the training is so yes. so that will help a bit better. my very weaponry that they use is also classic also the adult there. there are also some problems. there are reports that are nice to me is are being there with. ready from the far east or to europe and russia and handed out to weapons when they arrive. and that means yes, so her role. so again, go wash,

think of a, so the drivers, but there are different solar to much more modern, 9 different ballistics, different caliber and they are not trained to use uh, uh, drones that are right. they're used to massively, by both sides in the ukrainian war. of course, they don't speak russian at all. and the man that means that there's going to be a language barrier there. so yes, there's going to be lots of problems of trying to integrate them directly into the fight since north korea and russian moultrie have not had the maneuvers together, didn't train for many, many decades since the korean war to be co op or a boat on the battlefield, so they'll have to lay a word and as, as they go, eh, hi, given all these different says on the relatively small them. but if you're looking at it in terms of the number of russian soldiers on the battlefield, no difference of these north korean troops likely to make to the war. well,

i think you go make a module difference in millage features. but in terms of symbolic importance, they obviously have a great appeal for vladimir prudence. given that the russians have suffered grievous losses. uh estimated of 800000 did half a 1000000 wounded and much probably high even 10000 down. north korean troops can make a bit of a marginal difference, particularly if the guy to be employed on the coast cross as a report suggest. but essentially, a glad to be put in a piece to be making a statement through this deployment that some russia is uh, taking advantage of its uh, a lights with your career,

which it has been steadily building up of the past couple of years of close this been reports which but the russian, north korea initially denied that. and north korea has been supplying munitions to russia and previously possibly some advisors on the use of the technology such as michelle's and rockets boss. this is such a dramatic story intervention with the cause. this being the 1st time north korean troops have been deployed in combat and overseas. since the korean war is obviously much more of a diplomatic statement. the then i'm the one i think according to what i sent to agree with that the best deployment on the bottle failed at least, will only make a much no difference. well, thank you for having me on the show. i respect,

create comment. i think in, in the on. so this looks quite symbolic. it's a diplomatic gesture, a commitment to an agreement that was made as beat as june and thumbs up the signing of a mutual defense pat. oh, a mutual defense clause that's features within a strategic comprehensive partnership. between russia and north korea, but i think we need to watch a situation a little bit more closely. i think we get down into the prospect. so what's going to happen in the cost region? i think the picture looks slightly different. so i think right now it is true that these 10000 also troops assignments are using and adapting themselves to the conditions the weather conditions and it's a reading and the way in which direction. but if you operate at least within the cossack region, which they will be committed to. but i think we need to want to within that. and so we weeks and months. and so how these 10000 troops before, what are the rules going to be exactly what's available on one open media,

right. no media reports yet appear to be playing a support me to be expected to walk, you know, logistical rule. the support rule will contribute to defective occasions and to the supply tree and, and whatnot. with a small tional dis, $10000.00 troops, presumably uh, but the soldiers from the storm full. but i think as, as we go along, these troops can be expected to become more optimal as the lead on the job, and will be expected to fill other roles as rocking troops fees, challenges on the ground. so i think we need to watch it. the other thing i like to add is that it's not a static situation. we because of the full full to the possibility that north korea, i mean get more troops. well, the title to and pebble, i mean we get to the question, that is why north korea would do this. why would it deploy its troops? as craig says, this is historic. it's not a deployed troops and come back for, for many, many years. what would also be giving in return

a little russia has to be given money to begin with. and actually the operation of the game earlier than, i mean we're sending troopers dramatic, but not for me is provide the i'm of the, for the russian. that'd be guns, the person house or isn't the south to reinstate it's up to $10000000.00 rounds, which is a lot. and that is more really strategically important then for the russian military because they present credit, present fighting into your brain consumes norma somehow. so a heavy house or shells for north korea, it's a, i mean, do or i so it is for many, many years, especially after the end of the cold war, they were almost done for us to ration. and now they, they tried to boot under the president, donald trump, but better relationship with america that didn't work out. and now they have a nuclear super power as their sort of ally. and that's for them very,

very important. it also has one to be a supply of money also from the troops. most of their. 5 worry which is mastery in terms of the, my very high russian soldiers that pay the minimum of about a $2000.00 a month and then the for the premium war. and that's a lot for north korea. and of course, hold them back to that one is going to go direct to the coffers and can young a. so the has a lot to in. there also are most likely you're to get the rest of the technologies . you'll have to see russian weapons. so you are you fighters because of the one they have are very old, some other in the russian new weaponry. and that's for them would be very important politically, technically. and they are slack. we may have actually initiated more descending of these troops. the mosque. ready you know, craig,

obviously asia east asia especially is watching the situation very closely. probably with some alarm to see north korea's involvement so closely tied with russia in the ukraine. if we focus on the korean peninsula, it's been 70 years since the korean war ended in a truce. but salma sang, the north korea and south korea and now engaging in a proxy war in europe. would you agree with that? i'm to i lose that extends, it depends to my mind is to be saying how south korea especially relax um in uh, south korea uh carries out large scale supplies of the weapons and munitions to you, cried. then that would certainly make the case that there is a bit of a proxy indirect war happening because it hasn't he and no i have not yet, but that is, that doesn't have enjoyed that would happen in the past year,

especially since the, the unit ministration relations have been steadily to tear writing between north and south korea. and just recently, a couple weeks ago, and the north koreans around a spectacularly destroyed blew up the road and right weeks. just over the border between north and south korea over a, a, a industrial area where in the past the been uh, negotiations to create across the board of trade. so uh, in fossil side is being, uh, the cycle. the delivery was, uh, you know, i'm sending some planes basically to garbage over to the south. and the south korea was originally sending dryer and supposed to balance to north. so this diplomatic deterioration between north and south korea is also i potentially escalating

through this proxy if it's in ukraine. oh, graham, to what extent do you agree with that? let me know if chris saying now that he does not want to seek reconciliation with the south is craig's, and it's tested, it's fast, intercontinental ballistic missile this year. it's rhetoric is the hyphen thing saying that it's an explosive situation on the peninsula. is it c? king conflicts at this time. it's both korea speaking conflict with the solve. you're asking yes. well, well i it's, it's hard to see if it is explicitly so, but i think it is clearly being very, but address the recent posturing or decision by north korea to sending troops into a rush up to assist the russian side is clearly not constructive. i mean, the solve 3 in the government is up in arms clearly and be watching the new cycle closely. the national intelligence service,

which at the intelligence agency under the solve the government is providing a lot of ongoing reports and statements or concerns about what this can mean in north south relation. so clearly it's not, it's not, it's not a constructive development. it is, in fact the destructive development and it remains to be seen how software is going to be yet. it's interesting that was a study that was conducted of those, published by the center for strategic and international studies that us based pink tech, about how south korea indications that south korea may seek to move away from it's not legal aid policy under the unit ministration to to more to something a little bit more. and so this, this, um, the discussion of all of supplying the premium military with more often every i'm in ish admission to which the solve korean with looks like it has an apple supply for bucket the cloth amunition. uh, the $105.00 millimeter artillery shells to which it does not need so much anymore.

and presumably this supply will be useful to the ukraine into the treaty. so are you supposed to be watching this, the bottom of the sea? oh wow. korea is going to do next. i got the country of coast to be keeping a close eye on the middle. this is china, capital china as being growing closer to russia since it stops and it's war in ukraine. it's never old. it's also never sent weapons to most guy, but what it support this north career troops transfer right now john is saying that this is a problem, but we must have been young and that it's their summer and bright to do what they ever once of use on the though there be an indication of the child is not very happy, because if this was a additional pension in the korean peninsula of, that's not what china actually once they're just happened, they want stability,

their child will not be germany. and then this set for the 1st because trays review or from the united states as mary, very strategically important for gender. they won't do anything that's to do. we decide shows a secondary sanctions on on them. but they won't those so either they won't condemn it too. so china is going to keep trying to keep a low profile and hope that this doesn't bring any kind of serious escalation just from the left turn really doesn't change the strategic out the way on the front lines in your brain. so it's a politic pro, a symbolic se, but it's if it doesn't really infringe on chinese insurance, jazz interest is mostly stability in the dream peninsula. child is going to try and therefore have her hands off of the kids. i believe. and grand,

do you agree with that? because china real estate has kim cohen's even though with chris one of his main allies, it also has a certain degree of influence over china and it's enjoying that position in the region. but to what extent does this new alumni is a stronger alliance between russia and north chris threats and china is influence to the degree. i concur with the populace assessment um, you know, that i thought for some time trying to had um, well, but not quite a monopoly of its influence over north korea. but the dominant influence. ready the north korea and even even the americans have tons of time. no, no. and then to sort of get the north koreans to come down on wretched things down when things got cheap, cheap at all. but now china has to compete with russia. been having influence volvo, of what north korea can, will do. and this creates a problem for china, particularly at a time when north korea is attracting too much attention. on ne agent. security of

this to north korea is recent overtures. it's seem a rattling, it's icbm test and what advice to come down the road which is not working very good . and this is just just building the sheet on the region in china. would like things to stay in the state of school because things already like tennis between china and the west, possibly the united states and as part of the trying to sell them a balanced situation because it's intricately tied to the wisdom of san francisco with the economy and so pregnancy can only interest from at this time as well, and also have things go talk to you thought of you. so right now i think that is a fair amount of concern within the chinese government. my want to do regarding this recent development, and it seems to be losing a little bit of control over all the insurance in north korea. i mean, that may well be a very tense relationship between the us and china, but that's not stopping to us all skin china to try to prevent north korea sending

troops to russia. craig, the question is, is china willing to do that? and indeed, kind of do that. you know, i don't think there's much china can do uh, to restrict the uh, any deployment by north korea to russia, whether it's our troops or weapons for that matter. since of course, china has been in the same thing, directly supporting the rushes war effort in new crying through supply and critical technologies. and also not being just in general way of important training partner for russia. and of course, the north korea, north korea overwhelmingly, remains dependent on shawn or at least 90 percent of its trade. and so in that sense, china does have some limited leverage over north korea. and

china also, as was mentioned, is, will not be enthusiastic to say, north korea, escalating tensions too much in the region, including through it's on this all testing. but ultimately this is kind of limits. what shawn, it can do to stop by jim jones rising and letting me present, cooperating to the extent that they have. oh, i'm pablo. the us are that's amazing. that china is recruiting a whopping 25230000 soldiers, new soldiers every month, just to replace the dead and the wounded on the battlefield. how desperately does russia need these north korean men? the numbers right now though, according to president, will i be my fortune? there is over 600000 russian service men of the board in the war

zone and your brains. so additional troops most likely will be welcome. but i don't think search if they've changed that much because the numbers are not very high. it's how it will be problems to integrate them on the battlefield. so most likely to be done fairly graduate. and so that's more symbolic. but a supplier 3, north korean support is important politically and it's important very much is that they have been sharing their stock files. a heavy thoughts are the 1225 inch and 150 to 6 inch guns. and the that is strategically important a. so most to read a as a, a. now why is this ready to stand with russia? because a lot of us 3 was isolated, rushes back right away because of course, but the directory is the process of buying a supporting on the battlefield would be very important. and hopefully,

it won't bring your additional aspiration either in the far east nor, and the bring it to george. and then for that, for russia, that would be a contagious. i would say, craig rushes, war, and ukraine is being seen now as a, as a war of attrition. the longer it continues on the known good news career is sending troops to russia. we understand that dialogues are continuing between the 2 sides. so we are likely to see more troops arrived in the future, but of course that would then mean more money for the north korean regime and it folks thought doesn't it? so we'll say impact is this going to have on north korea as a country, as well. uh, is uh, vladimir treatment supplies. uh no, not really. um, money in funds, but also technology that will only enhance and encourage that can show rooms rising to continue the development of nuclear weapons,

particularly icbm. and also the north korea has one of the largest land armies in the world over 1200000 trips. so there is a potential for conjunction to supply russia with a troops for months and possibly their use to account. so that is a quite a, it this threatens to only exchange of the war and you try and put further pressure on the president zalinski government. and uh, it really uh, ups, the 80 and puts, the diplomatic pressure on ukraine's back is particularly the, the european union and also the states and other countries like japan and just generally outside of your pin america, which is also supported you crime mostly for natural but some equipment supplies as

well. so north korea, as you've been mentioning on this battle, has definitely escalated and listens the situation in your, in the current anymore. i called many things and days to all guests for joining us today. very interesting discussion. grant on web hobble folks and how and craig mach or i'm thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time 5, a single website that's out is there a dot com? i've had a discussion too. good. well, facebook page that's facebook dot com forward slash a j inside story. you're doing the conversation on x or homeless at a inside story from me laura kyle, i'm the whole team here. bye for now. the unique perspective. we don't want ahead to well, but we no longer have any private spaces on the incident. that's

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