as china, the see, there might be a finger, right? i'm looking at from united event, she reaching shanghai, the fusion. otherwise, china, korea and japan are generally speaking, enjoying fine dry. i'd rather be warm with all that i have to say for home. sure. that relative will is about 10 degrees cooler than last week. the, there's no limit to how a dream contains sta in your own adventure, no counter avenues. donald trump's, when is being celebrated by israel, as governments,

the north palestinians and other sounds as riley, as had promised to bring peace without saying how. so one could comes for terms of the white house means that is around palestinians. and why the middle east? this is inside story. the hello welcome to the program. i'm toma cry. it wasn't much of a secret that is rarely prime minister. benjamin netanyahu was hoping for donald trump victory last time and office trump was surrounded by hob lines on the sand. supporters of his room and describes bind in yahoo as the most pro is randy who is president, if a well since trump was ousted in his best presidency by joe biden and 2020, the situation for palestinians is going from bed to catastrophic banks by american

arms money and political support as well as war on guns that has killed more than 43000 of them. trumps is he'll bring pace to the middle east just as he promised last time with a so called deal of the century that went nowhere. and the situation has worse and since then, hugely started to tell us means, but also in terms of regional tensions is riley is to be found at the center of most of these attacking living on a ron, syria, human and all the targets in the region. so what can is round the palestinians and the blind and release expect from trump sick and presidency, and who might feel hurtful? and who might be the most worried? we'll discuss this a lot small without dish shortly. but this, this report from home is about how much windows from forcing of these last time. he was widely seen as israel, as most simple to us president. they look what happened is this an of the election pick 2 this week is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu was quick to

congratulate him. he sees tom's sweet tongue is a blissful relations between the united states and these that are you, your historic return to the white house offers a new beginning for america and a powerful re commitment to the great alliance between israel and america. on the streets, many is really saved. 3 tons of trump can only be a good thing for the country. i think it's good for is that right? yeah, no doubt. it's better than the carmella harris, but it is very good for is that because the pool is the last, the time he was the president, we moved the m as an embassy from the telling me to jerusalem. and the everything that he said he did my email, it's a man shit, i'm very happy drunk one. i hope he makes peace here. and we will have a good situation in our country and we will go back to the north and to the south. he will come things down because i believe he's able to make peace with the arabs.

a political energy saved is ready. the government is detected a trump swing. i think it's a celebration because it is a fact that nothing y'all placed decades ago on ties. but the republican party, the christian events. ready base the sort of democratic party, the lights move in an opposite direction because of its claims. ready represents something different, is rise genocide and was on god's skin more than 43000 palestinians and indeed over 100000 the us supplied is it a, with weapons on funding, despite reported populations between president joe biden and nothing you know, but many palestinians in goods see nothing we've changed on the trump presidency. been this left. what was it them over whether it's trump or another president? nothing will change for the palestinians. unfortunately, trump on the of the support design is there to them. some experts say it's unclear

how trump locked. i think the only thing that would bring them to an end is uh, you know, real pressure on the israelis to bring them to an end to bring an end to the genocide and cause and, and we're in love and on and the tensions with the wrong whether trump is willing to take that type of step is, is a, is a complete on no, nothing, no pending claims come to be the best friend that is right and has ever had in the white house in 2018 trump, the us embassy from the israeli company to 10 of the to get us send him. subaru. other countries also normalize relations, which is right. doing trump's time. you know, if he's, he's promised to bring peace to the middle east without seeing how and the stuff position on it on the in line with nothing else. who's is adding to the conflict in the region could escalate the hands of how much you just need a full insight study the what is spring in

august now and tell us a visit. i don't think it's a is a full a, it's rarely governments advisor and diplomats in paris. indeed, who are is the executive director of the era reform initiative. also in tel aviv may arrives on sean is the senior, is ready analyst at the international crisis group. think tank. thank you very much for being with us here on inside story today. a festival along. if i can begin with you, i mean, you obviously have extensive experience when it comes to his ready us relations. exactly what changes now that trump has been re elected. i look in the media around probably not much, but mr. an attorney out of banks on a bank and now banks on donald trump for 3 separate reasons. that's why he's ideologically akin to him. he's ideologically close to him. they are both want to

be tyrants. they both wants to uh, um, install, um say my or class i a storage area in there who in their countries. so in that respect on the, on the ideological level, their instinct. second, mr. newton, you all the things that i, that i a president trump would not believe not of him at all on the palestinian issue. and he's probably right because because trump is not invested in that issue, doesn't care much about that issue at this point, at least are judging by the past experiences and would certainly not the question i find the out to engage in a political process. i don't even want to call it piece process, but a political process with a balancing. the 3rd is that mr. nathaniel now is absolutely certain. i mean may be right again, that trump is not going to interfere or exert any pressure on his constitutional cool. the one that he's been instigating and his role since january of 23. now

i don't know what, what terms policies in the middle east are going to be. but let me say the following uh with, without the benefit of knowledge, trump is much more to choose to what the stories will tell him than to want that time. yeah, we will tell him number one, number 2, we still do not know whether trump intends to be tough with the wrong or whether because because joe buying the current president wasn't successful, he will re engage with about with the iranians on a no nuclear deal. just to prove a point that he could make a deal weren't no one else did. and he's the one, remember, one in 2019 who run the deal and withdrew uni laterally. so while listening to time, how may be looking forward to this and, and coming up with all these uh, hollow cliches about what a great president he was and what a great friend he was. ah, that's, that's a lot of nonsense. i think that the next few months may prove him wrong. well,

yeah, i'd like everyone will be watching and waiting to see exactly how things play out. the team didn't. yeah. who said that is one of the 1st to congratulate trump, as we've heard it. obviously they have a very, very close relationship. they are aligned on many things. trump said he wants to, in the bought the, by the time of his integration on january, the 20th the team is that something that you see happening, that netanyahu was actually going to want to do that. and if so, how does he go about doing it? that's a good question because, you know, talk a lot of these sorts of announcements, right? it makes them appear as a successful decision maker. i want this done. you have to comply, but he's not saying we're more done on what terms and how sustainable will a cease fire be. was clear. i think there won't be a pressure on it then, you know, and probably, or even that desire, find it to,

you know, because there's internal pressure within israel to try to end quote unquote the war and let been on. and also to provide some sort of wrong road map in the us. uh, i think the sort of never ending war doesn't suit anyone now. well, what is the sort of new coke fries? so for the uh, the president, trunk and green. uh, what is the leverage that nathan yeah, has today to bring these wars to and then that's not clear to me because we just heard the secretary general of has been uh speak uh yesterday and he was very clear . i mean, his brother has not got a fault, not gonna just accept this fee or stop by and broadcasts because president trauma wants them to. and we've also seen the how much,

despite the incredible destruction and goes and all the losses they suffer, they can still show some form of symbolic armed resistance. uh, in the so i don't think, you know, i mean the copies are not going to disappear simply because trump's that so, or because trunks that, you know, act smart decisively then by then or assess certain things. i mean, we've seen the current us administration under by them that has actually been sol solved. busy or to the israel so far with perhaps the exception of a striking you're wrong nuclear uh assets or yeah. and if you reactors and uh, your ons, oil songs, it's hard to believe that anyone could be more pro is riley than joe biden. but to, as we've heard and isn't yahoo side, the trump definitely is a layer of, i mean,

how big a release is drums when full funded and yahoos coalition. obviously, it made no secret of the fact that he was hoping that trump would, when, i mean, does it give them immunity to carry on and to exactly what they want, how they want when they want, as well as we've been setting, i mean under bite and israel has largely done what it wants, and this next 2 months of elaine, the binding is also very up in the air. you know, the us just send the offensive weapons here, b 52 bombers. so we have to see how that plays. uh with the ron, but in terms of translating, i mean the far right, subtler far right in the coalition is very happy. there's been calls the ford trump line now that it has one to apply sovereignty to fully a next to westbank. this is an open agend done open platform by the government and it's also something that's been happening on the ground in the shadow of the guys of war and 11 and more. so we haven't heard necessarily as much about it, but the westbank is, is, is being re organize the rocky pace and the way it functions,

the civil authorities, the fatalities to much rich has taken as finance minister and administered the defense ministry. so these things are bound to be accelerated, both now and in the post trump period. i mean, this farmer investor, david friedman, just published a book on how and why it is relevant to the next to west space. so on issues like that, i think is riley's been power, are very happy. and also when you look at what's happening in northern gaza right now, um, just an acceleration of the population of dispossession and destruction. i don't really see trump stopping that either, and i cd is really government moving forward with the both again in the next 2 months and also and of course, you know, when trump takes power, i see that being accelerated. adam, if we can just stick with the with bank briefly now, i mean many in terms of the circle, what the antics the west bank that made no secret of that. i mean, how concerned should palestinians be, i mean, is that a threat or something that could actually be carried through one?

0, you know, i talked to her, oh, i need to come in the house for finding the time to read the david friedman's book with a, with a gun into my head. i wouldn't read that. i talked to the headlight off to read it . yeah. you can make all excuses you want, but but back to your question top, um, if i were the palestinians, i wouldn't be afraid at all. i would say you want to an excess we, there you. let's see you do that. obviously these early government is not going to annex the entire worst thing. what it may do is add to the reverse ability, who's really present slash occupation of the west bank by next things large blocks of a so called area. see, you know, that that's a huge area that's ignited as see since the oslo accords. but in terms of the mfc janik extremist right wing and israel that wants to an ext uh everything. trump is

not going to care. he does know where the west bank is showing the blank mount and ask you more of the west bank. he's, he's, he's not gonna know he thinks the west bank is a club in new jersey, or i know that's not the point. i go back to the, to, to, to in the salient, i think that are salient points. number one, israel would never dare to. and next the entire which thing because it knows even this government understands the around the figures. secondly, and i repeat the point i made earlier, tom trump is going to be much more attuned to and influenced by the stories the cup tardies and the me, roddy, is that he's ever going to be buying this during that time. yeah. so if i were a pounds senior given my, i'm my frustration with the obama administration was a trump administration with a binder ministration and our, the new uh, um,

fast forwards trump administration. i would, i would tell these early, let's see we, there you go. okay, let's stick with a post. i mean, people could, because i have like they have going to be the brunt of the impact of what if a trump decides or allows to happen when it comes to israel a and in the whole region, the team, you know, as we know, can you just explain what potentially could be the dire consequences for palestinians and the next 4 years with trump in charge. but we know what the trunk starts during those lottie, particularly in terms of recognizing the allocation of the golden hive. we also know that many of their key financial supporters of donald trump, including people like miriam, adults and others fully support the sort of masonic supplement movement and israel . so i think i agree, the biggest b,

it wouldn't be on the west bank and sort of continuation of this policy. we already started with the 1st time of moving the embassy to jerusalem and potentially 2nd term, recognizing more and more. israel sovereignty over a larger and larger part of the west was back. now, this would probably be a continuation, i think the current us administration under, by the wasn't, you know, never really a pause the supplement endeavor. it would try the same thing. so it never told me to do my bit, but no, never fully supported. i think on the truck we might see more explicit support and the sort of symbolic gestures that he likes to do with and then opens the way for others. there's also, i think the 2nd step and i think there and it's on. yeah. who is probably feeling more comfortable with this is charles will probably give him i would say more in units. the internationally again we,

we've been waiting now for 5 months for the job because of the international criminal court to look at the arrest lawrence of the i. c prosecutor requested a guess. then. yeah, uh you know, the us under, i had ministrations ever been a big fan of the i c. c. but actually trump wouldnt totally undermine the i c. c. i can for his court on the front and it's on the out. and finally, i will just a one point i agree, the key issue is going to be how the strong at this stage balance between the interest of our gulf states and of israel doing as far as administration. there was a general alignment as the in iran, as the main stretch. now, many of the most of the golf country still see you run as a key threat. but many of them have made sort of rep, right? small. when you're on, you know, we saw the chinese, me use it, a personal piece of you your on got, there has been relations that even the u. e has better relations with that you're on today. so how's, from sort of, uh,

navigate these 2 key allies. i think is probably where the space there is some space there to push for boston and rise. recognizing however, that the u. e and savvy are no longer on the same page. i think the we would probably be happy to, to kind of sacrifice boston and right. so i think the conference and savvy has to take into account more internal considerations around that, as they've made it very, very clear. they actually now have stake a lot of the legitimacy and credibility behind the sort of a huge bush for a to say to, you know, sort of a, you know, renew as offer from the manual piece deal they offered about, i guess, now, 18 years ago. okay. and there if, if we can just briefly talk about or what, because the can use it as we know it passed different laws banning them from offer . writing on is ready control territory. on the a week ago, the trump actually cut off us funding to the you and i didn't see in 2018 when he

was last president. i mean, what will the 2nd trump presidency, presidency actually mean for the millions of people that rely on that agency? every single day i well, i think, i mean you pretty much have the answering the question. i mean, israel has now legislated what it has wanted to do for quite a while and it did so without finding alternatives and replacements, which is something that i think you'd want it to do. but october 7th, i just made it kind of accelerated in a way that they would just basically get rid of lunar. uh and really, i mean, when i ask, is really officials uh, give me ideas. at least you know what this means and they don't have a good answer for how they're going to deal with it in the west bank, any serious went ahead and got it so. so this is something that is, trump is not gonna, you know, refers that and as the team was saying, i mean the, the kind of war that israel has been waging against international institutions, international law. this is something that trump and that to me i who are very aligned to both in their foreign policies and domestically. i mean,

we haven't talked about it but, and it's in yahoo is you just fired his defense minister. he's but trust is coalition. he's stabilized that he's solidified his place in power, and part of doing that is also spending off international arrest warrants and international law. and he's, he's doing that and he's remaining and power and he's also averting his own. uh, you know, a trial for corruption and, and he has various other scandals and security breaches that he's dealing with now . and so this is and very similar to trumpet. it's all part of the same process of undermining the rule of law. and so this is all going to be accelerated, both internally and israel. and of course, with regards to the posting is i want to get on to a ron, cuz we're going to go about saving right? minutes left in the discussion alone. i mean, is this trump victory going to allow israel to take it even greater risks when it comes to around? do you think i or no, i think it

a lot. i think less res. um look is your why not take? well, i'll explain. i'll try to explain israel for 2 reasons. one is trump is risk averse . trump is not going to go into war unless the ronnie does make a mistake, which i don't think they will add firstly, and that is attacking american best. this could happen in as early as the, this is speculation over conjecture, so i'm not going to go on. if the ronnie is stay away and refrain from for holding the u. s, which i believe they have invested interest in doing. and this remains can sort of contains as a, uh, and it's really iranian to that or kinetic ping pong, if you will. and israel knows that it's cannot take your arms, no clear military program on. it's all, it cannot sustain an aerial attack. it does not have the munitions, nor the bombers to carry those issues. it can inflict

a lot of damage that carries the uh, the danger of escalating this into the entire golf. and that is not something that donald trump, i think least, that is not something that donald trump is going to want to want. this is something that the sorties the car is the enemy, ronnie's a hole in a warm hammock. number one, number 2. i look, he's not gonna, we, obviously this is all just 0 and we're all, we're all uh, naturally talking about the middle east. the middle east is not a big preference, is not a priority, and it's not an urgent matter resolved. ukraine is taiwan. is north korea is unless he's being sucked into it, which by allow the us to be. but tom may not be so inclined. i'm used talking to care about much and, and i know i'm saying this for the 3rd time whether it's really important in my lease, i think it's really important. the trunk is, is very impressionable,

is more rather impressionable by the sorties that he's ever going to be minus anyhow. a t z. his experiences with my tongue. i was manipulations of deception and a variety issue on a variety of issues that we don't have time to go and know that they might just want to pick up on that point. the saudi influence of the trump. i mean, what exactly will they want from him? look, i think solidly now the magically has invested itself again in a 2 state solution. this problem, it could be adopted as, as their for causal. uh, you know, we'll try and be willing to push these really in that direction. i don't think so. um, so i don't think there's gonna be much traction to kind of important to resolve or address in any permanent way there is really costing an issue under the proffer on the coming years. the salaries will want more security guarantees,

which is actually basically what they were getting from from buying though it may be getting a little bit more tier, but they're not going to get the full package that they want. so i actually don't see a way a truck administration, radically changing the balance of power. and the reason you know, and the reason for coming off with a new wave of deals like we saw during the 1st or arm of time for the brown record . mostly because guys that happened in between and i don't see any of the country right now, winding up to sign a piece deal that is real, even if the trump tries to sweep and that. so i agree. i think we're love the you know, the general analysis of going to be more of the same and then yeah, i was going to sleep better at night. there will be some pressure, i think, particularly around the goal on the ice. possibly around northern does. uh oh, pushing for more supplements. we'll probably see you a g trying to centralize

a role in sort of in the, in the administration. that wouldn't be surprised if you hear a lot more about coming to atlanta and others. me to go. he's that you are e sort of bank 1st set of boston, and you're, he's been champ to me, to come back to go back and try to govern guys up. but on the larger dynamics, i just don't see. it will have to wait to see who's going to to donald trump is going to stop the us, particularly on this phone calls to the team. are they all going to be involved? and between the sort of ideology of some of these thoughts and also is desire not to get, you know, bogged down and another major regional conflict will have to see, you know, how these for these end up suddenly. yeah. right, right. so if we can finish the discussion, talking about dancer, you touched on this before and the rhetoric conditions that people have been facing there. but some more than a year now, especially in the north, over the last months or so, which is just being besieged by is ready, bombardments,

especially, and multiple attacks their dis, drums a re election. does that change anything for the, for the people living in guns are right now? i mean, i think they probably, you know, it could always get worse, even though it's hard to imagine how things could get worse. but you know, i think in the, in the geo political scheme of things, but my other pallets have been talking about the only, i mean trump likes winters. he doesn't like losers this and yahoo started this war as a loser. and now he's re gain popularity. he's given a major blow to the access to a rod to spell out. and so now maybe you've seen as a winner by tron, and so trop wants to go with that. and if he wants to go with that, and the only thing i think that would change that dynamic of continuing to destroy guys or possibly eventually resettle guys. whether israel does that or not, does it matter? is ro, defective controls guys? and it's a big mess as far as, but the day after is going to look like. but the one thing that could change that calculus, which i disagreed to that extent was the name, is that saudi. and trump could decide that some kind of

a plan that is off the abraham accords that looks like a 2 state solution, but everybody understands is not a viable to state solution, could be put on the table. and that could be the one thing that would maybe change things and nothing else does, i think still want savvy normalization. so, so that could change the dynamic, but otherwise, you know, i don't see how trop is going to be a good for palestinians. good for you. know any, any kind of stability in the region in that sense, but he has interest that could change the way the by that and registration has approached israel's world cousin life. so much of a trump presidency. we just don't know exactly how it is going to play out along the team a and my ref. thank you so much for joining us here on inside story. we really appreciate your time and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting a website. that's l just here, a dot com and fulfill the discussion goes well facebook page. that's facebook dot

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