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the, the, there's no limit to have a dream container, stuff in your own adventure, no counter and things. hello. on the side of highlights into how the top stories on al jazeera palestinians are, again, being forced to move from the north. of the goal is a strict with no less safe to go as well as bombing residential areas on shelters besieging to know if is great. so we'll see you unofficial cools an apocalyptic situation. you and has condemned the canning of tens of thousands of civilians and israel's will thought about zone reports from dated by the not since central garza was reported. that women and children make callbacks through the natalie high percentage of goose gilding garza with the latest figures shows that 70 percent of
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suicide. what killed with done compact since it means that this will, has a very far reaching impact on civilians who have been witnessing an endless that kind of a violence and even harder on the grounds. contributing to this high rates of civilians being killed during the is by the attacks on this trip. is it due to a lack of save sounds, essential shelters for disability as an order to take as a refuge away you from the east valley area land land tax as well of the amsterdam police. she says the group is ready for the full funds. bunch of palestinian flag and damaged a taxi ahead of fights with palestinian sold as far as he demonstrates is at least 62 people are arrested and 5 others injured. and what the police chief says was a deliberate attack, and the funds of mccaul beach, tennessee video pasted online shows, is ratings tearing down kind of thing and flags in the center of items to them.
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before that you wrote for the game against isaac, the cities mass says the incident is being investigated is right in front of the southern terminal. now, who says he's sending 3 planes to the netherlands to bring back his randy citizens . as well, has 1st fired around the 50 missiles from lebanon, and it was in his row since friday morning fire and sounded in the port city of haifa and all the nearby cities. his bullet says it, talk to this very minute tree basis is all says it's defensive insistence. and some of the missiles and others fell in open space. human rights likes of install criticizing to controversial knows post by these ready palm in this week. they say, i know that could lead to the expulsion relatives of people involved in a tax only targets palestinian citizens of israel. it's long for you to be challenged in court. another law which has posts on choose day would enable palestinian his radius teaches to be dismissed if they show support for a tax against is right. it is, or at least 25 people have been injured all through
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a russian. ms. sol hits a residential building and the a crate in city of called keys early on friday. search and rescue teams. all looking for people believes to be trumps on to the rubble for people will also induce an attack on the capital keys. european leaders on meeting in the home, gary and capital for the past. first days, discussions were overshadowed by the election of donald trump as us presidents, german chancellor. all those shots of europe must remain strong and discuss how best to work with trump, the walls and new crate the will rather in ukraine and conflicts in the middle east . i'll expect to be on today's agenda. now 2 people have died and another 12 on missing off through a fishing boats cap size of the south coast of south korea. the fishing vessels in the area managed to rescue 13 a crew members. south cruise president young kill has cooled for an all available resources to find and rescue those. the still missing a major
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evacuation operation has been taking place on the indian. you see an island of flores, of the whole. k, no, iraq, 58 times 96000 villages live in close to mountains. no, toby, black con, not lucky, lucky or other have been moved. a states of emergency has been to cut 5 fights as in the state of california. so then making progress in containing a walls father began 2 days ago. more than 10000 people northwest of most on today's have been ordered to evacuate the homes. now. so for this you won't find california have been more than 3 times as much land as last year was 0 headlines. the news continues here on out to 0 off to the bottom line. the
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hi. i'm steve clements and i have a question now that americans have decided to put trump back in the white house. what kind of country in the world expect? let's get to the bottom line. the don't call it a come back. the 45th president, united states will now be the 47, but this time he's going to have way more elbow room to work is agenda, with the republican party on track to have control of both chambers of congress. the democratic party paints president elect donald trump as a fear longer and is a fascist. but it is victory sweetie, with striking a more unifying tone and promised to put the divisions in the rear view mirror. now the democrats are going to have to do some soul searching about what went so wrong for them. was it the economy? was it immigration? was it presidential biden's,
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attempt to clean the power when he should have stepped aside earlier? wasn't gaza, or was it all of the above? so now we're trump, back in the white house. what can america expect and what can the world expect? today we're talking with the economist jeffrey sachs, professor at columbia university, former advisor for the united nations and author of several books, including a new foreign policy beyond american exceptionalism. a jeff, thank you so much for joining us. look, you've been out there famously saying that neither of the 2 candidates who just ran for president united states met your minimum threshold. but we've seen something very unusual, which is a massive, massive landslide, even popular. but anyway, you count for a former president, united states, donald trump would love to get your take to well, he won a big victory and i hope that he will do what he says he will do, which is and to warn you crane. i hope he will stop the wars that have been i going
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on. i also in the middle east, obviously, and the tensions with china. it remains to be seen. i let, let's see what happens this. this was obviously very big victory. do you think there's something that's really happened inside the american body politics about forever, wars that it was involved in shame about guys is real concerned about never ending wars that were committed to perhaps in russia. ukraine. how, how are you? what are you feeling right now about americans and it's war problem? we have the 3 i crisis zones and the political system treats them differently. we have the war in ukraine by and large, the democrats of the steadfastly, supported by that war, which i interpret as a war of nato expansion. i, the democrats say it's
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a war of who is aggression. but i think that the, i, maybe the democrats don't really understand the whole history of how this war came about, which was the us attempt to expand nato to russia as border basically. then we have the war in the middle east and on that the crisis own. both the democrats and the republicans have fallen all over themselves to say how much they support israel. so i don't know whether trump will be any different in that regard from by and certainly in the rhetoric on the campaign. both candidates were ardently pro israel and is early as ardently pro war i. then when it comes to a, china, i the 3rd area of great tension i, the democrats of been very aggressive. i,
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but trump has also been very aggressive. now he seems to say that his toughness with china is on a commercial basis, not on a military basis. well, that would be better than having it on a military basis. again, it remains to be seen because in the republican party, there are many china hawks. there are many hard liners i engine. trump's message regarding china has been ambiguous pop pop, especially on tariffs and protectionism. he sometimes says, no reason for conflict with china. bravo, this is absolutely true, but it's not clear exactly what the, the trump policy, visa, the china will be. so when i, i try to, i assess out where we're heading. i do believe that the trump will end the war in
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ukraine and stop the cause of the war, which was a, this campaign for nato expansion. and that's a good thing. very good. i hope that trump will say to israel, i that there needs to be a political settlement to states, and that is unless war in the middle east has to stop and that the us has no interest whatsoever in the war with the wrong. that's what i hope, but i don't know what he's actually going to say and when it comes to china, i hope again, that trump distinguishes between his trademark, trade protectionism, which i don't support, but that is his trademark versus i military aggression. i or a anti china stance on military and security grounds,
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which i think would get us into a lot of trouble if we pursue that kind of war. monetary let's talk for a moment about is real guy. so it is really prime minister netanyahu. we know that donald trump told him, do what needs to be done and what we've seen, and what you've said is we're seeing human rights crises and human rights violations and a genocide under way. a lot of people around trump who previously around him like john bolton and others have actually said we, we need to move everyone out of gaza as a humanitarian gesture, ignoring the fact that that's pretty close to what ethnic cleansing is defined as. and so i'm just interested do you think that pressure, people like yourself, need to educate the incoming 47th president of the united states, about what genocide is, what the consequences are. and that a lot that his positions may be inconsistent here as well. see, the,
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the israel lobby has been very powerful. i actually all the way back to a president truman. this has been a long, consistent story. in 1967 i israel, i conquered the territories of the westbank east, jerusalem. i and the gaza. i and i also the goal on heights. these are what are called the occupied palestinian territories. and immediately after that war, the un i in a, a resolution of the security council to $42.00 said that those occupied territories did not belong to israel. and the israel would have to relinquish them. so that was already i 57 years ago. now, yahoo represents the political force in israel that says now will never give back
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those territories. and israel has moved to more, more progressively to say these are our territories. what is in israel called great or israel. but the problem is that go many millions of palestinians live i under is rarely occupation rule and it's a very brutal life. i and i these right wing politicians in israel have become more and more aggressive. i to the point of saying, well, maybe the palestinians just need to leave. i just like you quoted at that's not close to ethnic cleansing. that is ethnic cleansing. precisely. i israel has been absolutely brutal. i killing tens of thousands of innocent women and children destroying all the infrastructure. the buildings started,
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the hospitals, the clinics, the schools, the mosque, i of the guys a in the past year, it's been a human devastation. and these rarely government told us they were going to do that . they were right, they didn't minutes words. they said in the early days, so we're going to make does a livable. now, netanyahu has also had the view that if the other states in the region don't like what israel's doing, well, then the united states and israel should over throw those governments that don't like it. so a israel's kind of the tough guy that says you don't like what we're doing. we will get rid of you. i think that y'all has been a disaster from the point of view of american interest. and what is the point of all of this? the arrows said back in 2002 error countries will normalize relations with israel
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if there is a palestinian state living alongside israel. that's called the ard piece initiative . it's now 22 years old that yahoo is firmly against accepting that. it happens that international law says that israel is illegally occupying these palestinian lands and the palestine has the right of political self determination. the united states has basically done whatever israel says this is at a very high cost for the united states. so i would like the us to have a, a us policy that down moves to peace because that's it. america's interest and the world's interest. it's actually also in israel as the interest and certainly in the palestinian interest. this is what the world wants. biden was very, very weak president gets he still was president until january 20th. he has been an
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extremely weak president, basically complaining about that yahoo but then doing whatever netanyahu says, right, this is not the way to run a country. it's jeff, just sort of interested in what you think voters were saying in rejecting commer harris and embracing donald trump, who i think represents a kind of pug nation, is sort of hyper nationalism in america. a kind of disregard for everything else out there. maybe i'm over over generalizing, but i'm just interested in whether this election is, is really the nail in the coffin for globalization and, you know, global development as we've known and isn't in the past. i don't think so because i think you're basically elections are referendums on the incumbent. and so if people feel that their lives are going pretty well that the economy is going pretty well, they tend to vote for the incumbent for in this case,
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for harris. i think this was basically a vote against dividing administration. i that it didn't deliver better lives, mainly on an economic basis, which is the main reason that determines how people vote. but all the wars of rattled people as well. the americans are not happy that the u. s is engaged in so many crises around the world. definitely. there were pockets of voters a i, for example, the muslim voters in michigan that definitely voted the for trump or voted against biding by writing in or voting for 3rd party candidate. a jo stein because they were absolutely against the bye, didn't ministration policy of doing whatever israel i said the us should do. so. i
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think the main message here is that the working class people in the united states that form trunk space want better economic conditions. trump tells them how he's going to do that. through trade protection, i says, i'm going to get your jobs back by stopping them from going abroad to china. i and that day i'm going to crack down on immigrants because they're taking your jobs to especially the illegal immigrants. now, my own view as an economist is that this is not really the basis of the stagnant living standard size facing i work in class people in america. and there are or other reasons that i think are more important in the way technology has left a lot of workers unemployed because of automation. and more of that is coming with
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the artificial intelligence revolution of the fact that done. lots of the young people are priced out of the college. i opportunity because tuitions are so high as student loans are so difficult. and so lots of young people that want to go on for education are simply unable to afford to do so. and then they end up with jobs that really are not renewing their too. and with the income levels that are stagnant. but they've voted for trump because they're not happy. they're not happy with how the situation is right now, and trump is telling them i can solve your problem. i doubt that who's particular economic recipes get to the core of these problems. but they did get to the core of the political challenge, which is to get elected. and where you says such an important reminder for me of
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when trump came in. and he gave a famous speech and isn't it not 1st and all your ration speed, i would call it the american carnage speech was a very dark view of these challenges and stresses and dimensions which you just discussed a bit. and you, you compare that to the kind of rhetoric of american exceptionalism in the world. you know, this very unique place where everything is magical and, and america has no limits or boundaries. and, and do you think americans do see themselves now? is it as, as a nation in decline, where there's some interest, affection, and some rejection of that hubris. you sort of see that in the works. i think there's definitely among american voters, a sense why are we all these wars after all, afghanistan, iraq, a serious libya, ukraine. it seems non stop and it,
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it feels that way. and it is trillions and trillions of dollars. and so i think that there's very little support for american foreign policy in the public. usually people don't vote on the basis of foreign policy, but i think people feel this is not right. it's not working, it's expensive, it's dangerous. but why are we doing this? when we have so many problems at home, and so i do feel that that is part of the current situation. i now what we'll try to do it again, it remains to be seen, but i hope that he has advisors and this time picks people who take the course of finding a path to ending these perpetual wars. in his 1st administration, he ended up hiring a lot of a neo cons. a lot of warmongers like john bowlin,
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i who did not serve trump well. i in my opinion, i hope he does a better job the and i really hope he does a better job. that's an understatement. with a is selecting his team this time. jeff, are you worried at all about pre freedom of thought, freedom of expression, what we've seen happen in american universities. you yourself have been trashed so many so many efforts underway and in a way to try to cancel your voice. i'm just interested, particularly as we discussed, not just palestine, but issue after issue after issue where academia used to be a safe place where that kind of sometimes on guard discussion could take place. i'm just wondering if you're concerned that environment is going to erode more as we go into the trump, here's as well. it is a road in a lot. i when the students protested against israel, i thought they had
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a very good point. i but the universities a most of them across the country, cracked down on the students, including unfortunately my own university, columbia university, where the university leadership called and the place a 2 way i dismantle. i made shift protest site that the students had i and ended up arresting lots of students expelling some students and so forth. i thought that was an absolutely wrong approach. there is a lot of, i also in the mainstream media, i absolutely and unwillingness to treat fairly i narratives that run against the official narrative. and this is all during the the, the, by the period. so this has been really a kind of unpleasant period now from could absolutely intensify
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that it's possible. on the other hand, a probably is, well i would say certainly is most powerful backer. i is, eli mosque i and eli mosque. so trademark among other things is that x should be an open platform and the j as the landmarks, as he bought the twitter so that he could protect its openness because twitter was centering, views, a, and twitter accounts that were running against the official narrative. so we are at a time in the united states where i, the security apparatus has really i in part cracked down on domestic speech. me not as bad as it could be, but not anywhere as open as we believe it to be i so way with
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from will see i certainly am worried about it. i but let's see. i don't think we can draw any specific conclusions right now. donald trump is talking about being dictator on the 1st day of office. we've heard about deploying military both of forces domestically against the enemies within the rhetoric, some call hyper valley. but i'm just interested in what you think. what you think of the rhetoric you have concerns and what would be the warning signs that this is a real problem? yes, people can point fingers, but maybe they should also think about their own actions as well. we do have a problem in the united states, so repeatedly at various phases after world war one, after world war 2. and more recently where there is an official narrative. and if you don't subscribe to it, it's viewed as unpatriotic and i tell factions had been taken during the mccarthy
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period after world war 2. i in the early fifties, in the red scare period and the palmer rates after world war one. and i think that there has been a, a kind of culture of repression of alternative views and recent years. again, not a brutal crack down, but also not the commitment to open speech the way we sometimes think. and on facebook or i, youtube i, i know lots of, uh, people who get a message. your account has violated community standards and we're closing you down or we're suspending your account. and by the way, without any clarity, without any due process, without any explanation. so it's a different kind of censorship right now. i because it's the social
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media platforms that are doing this, but there are a lot of connections between these platforms and the security state apparatus of the united states. so this makes the whole situation delicate. i, of course, i hope the trump will not to pursue this, but i am making the point that this is not something that only trump has engaged in the j divide in ministration was the great champion, a free speech. i would say no, that has not been the case. always grateful for your time in these conversations. economist in columbia university professor jeffrey sachs. thank you so much for being with us today. absolutely, great to be with you. a really a pleasure. thanks so much. i. so what's the bottom line with not only donald trump winning the oval office, but with his party gaining the senate and perhaps the house of representatives and with conservative control of the supreme court, america has essentially elected
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a king. let me offer 5 predictions. number one, trump is just not sentimental about america's post world war 2 world order, and he's not gonna care about the united nations or the w t o or the international court of justice, or any of that stuff. number 2, globalization for globalization sake is over. deals are going to be cut based on u. s. interest. only. number 3, american allies. they're gonna have to pay more for us protection. are they going to be out on their own? number 4 domestically? he's going to ignore his critics, as he rams legislation through congress. and number 5, he's more likely to use the us military to qual, protests at home, rather than deploying soldiers the conflicts abroad. all of this is going to feel really great to a lot of americans at 1st, but down the road, things will eventually go off the rails. and that's the bottom line. the
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unique perspective we don't want ahead to but we no longer have any private spaces on the incident. that's a scary well on heard voices a year into this genocide, it still remains large. one section to connect with our community and tap into conversation. as you find elsewhere, but humanity, the number of people who want to stop sending weapons has gone up and up despite what they hear in the mainstream media in the united states. the stream on out just the or there are some of the media stories, a critical look at the global news media. on our do 0, government shut off access to social media. the
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limits to have a dream contains key stuff in your own adventure. now counter adding the hello, i'm sort of hired us into how these are the top stories on al jazeera, postings are, again being forced to move from the north of the goals a strip with know what space to go, as well as bombing residential areas as well. as shelves of the siege and the north is created, we'll see you an official cause enough for can lipstick, situation view and has condemned the killing of tens of thousands of civilians in his rouse will be i'm saddam police chief says a group of his ready football finds bunch palestinian 5 in the midst of taxi a head of points with palestinian solidarity demonstrates.

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