a shilling, tail exposing the reverberation systemic force adoptions in the states. 1970 with modular genus stolen light on a just visiting is rarely football hooligans on rampage and amsterdam, provoking dutch errands and instigating a wave of filing suit officials failed to prevent the rioting. is their narrative of the interest bias? this is inside story. the hello and welcome to the program. i'm how much in june amsterdam today is tense and divided. the usually peaceful city is struggling to shake off the feeling of unease following a night of violence,

provoked by fans of these rarely football club. maccabee tel aviv visiting supporters tore down and burned palestinian flags and abuse people of arab descent and the lead up to their clubs. europa league match against local giants, a x in the dutch capital, a chance to slogan in support of israel's war on gaza. and vandalized businesses and vehicles, the angry backlash that followed, and the official response to it is raising questions to the incidents that lit the fuse had been foreseen and prevented. as the official response been biased, does it highlight deep rooted racism? and just, i'm a phobia we'll tackle these issues with our experts in a moment. but 1st, this report by victoria gave me, of the dam is in a state of shocks. last thursday, thousands of funds from a copy televi football tubs visited the city from israel to that team 0 police game against i. x. before the match they gathered in the city center, many was seen with him down palestinian flags and chanting races.

slogans. outraged includes many of arab descent. confronted these refunds after the match or protest and the judge capital have since been bend and the mood is still tense, exposing deep reaches divisions. induct society. i'm sure it is anti semitic reasons due to the things that happened. but i think the bigger explanation is the war and the genocide is that of the government under the leadership of the far right freedom policies is quick to ask. the strong measures against was named involved in the violence including deportations and to feel received and both in netherlands and israel, naples of ireland and to submit to avoiding giving context that might suggest a different narrative. the headed, the collective against is let me say be a says, this is dangerous language and that the attacks were response to violence of races . insults spies really supposes into, you know,

jewish citizen in amsterdam has become a victim of all we see is a witch hunt potable ization between muslims as terrorists. what they're really trying to do is normalize what israel's doing in palestine and silence old, those who protest against it. the mayor of amsterdam survived a vote of no confidence on tuesday during an emergency meeting of the city council . 3 quarters of benevolence, jewish population, well measured by the nazis during the 2nd world rule. and she says she stands by her initial response to the violence it come. i can imagine that this could remind people of a program. that's my assessment. we are aware that there's been issues around with having some for us to, but it was a terrible shock. allows us friends an incident. and i can imagine that this could remind people of a holocaust. i'm not taking that back to manager pool concluded the riots are triggered by talk. st. mix of anti semitism, hoping hooliganism and end of israel's war on garza and it's ground, defensive and 11 on having identified what they say of the causes dot. you'll still

ortiz now face trying to bring tense and divided communities back together. victoria gave some, b, l, g 0 for inside story. that, that's parliament has discussed the fall out of the football violence in amsterdam steadfast and it has more from the hague. last week's riots and answer them involving my copy tell a face full science and residence of answer them as well. quickly developed into a huge political fallout and also sanctions in the city and divisions filed in society here in parliament as a fiery debate asked for by the far right leader, the leader of the largest bar to here in atlanta, the freedom party. she is here to wield us. he asked for this debate and he started off really come diamond to finance against it's really france calling it organized a jew hans anti semitism. and he's also been asking for very strong measures against the people from of what he now says is the dutch moroccan, a community you are in for basically involved in these rights of police. hasn't

confirmed any of this, but he is now is asking to withdraw even there at the passport if they have 2 passports. if it's proven that they are involved in the violence. so just according to the opposition is really adding fuel to the fire weight or even more decisions in society. and they ask them for responsible leadership, but it's fairly clear here from what's happening today in the hague. that's what happened in amsterdam on thursday that this is really adding a debate about immigration, about islam. and it's actually really being used for political means by to finalize governments here. and then alan's steps last and alice's era inside story the violence has expos, rifts and up society that we can explore further with our guests in the hague. when rabbani is a non resident fellow at the center of conflict and humanitarian studies and answer them just e mail 1000 is an answer them to the counsel member for the political party to vote

. and also joining us from the hey, you've all gone is a jewish community activists who co founded the anti zionist group era of rough welcome to inside story. thanks so much for being with us today. j z. let me start with you today. all the protest and the does capital have been banned. how tense does the mood in amsterdam remain? well, uh, thank you for having me. i would say the situation is quite a tense. uh, for example, there will be another demonstration uh today because uh, the fact that the demonstration band originally was only supposed to be last weekend got extended until last uh until uh this thursday. and also the mirror yesterday in the debates said that it is possibly going to be extended. so profile, assuming uh protestors, they are angry because the grounds on which these on which this demonstration band is based. they say, and i also agree with that is uh, is based upon uh,

the zionist frame. and that it was actually uh, the people of amsterdam who uh, initiates uh, the violence that they did photograms against dues that they were to hunting. but i think we will talk more about the context of that later dizzy. let me also ask you from your point of view, what could officials have done to prevent violence and writing in the 1st place as well. so of course, this is the point that he made into debate yesterday, and this is also what we mentioned before the match on thursday. the debt to this uh, football club should have never been uh, welcomed in amsterdam to begin with. that's how you chris prevented the 5 minutes. and if you wanted to let this club come any way, you can also prevent the defense from coming to the end today. and then even in the situation like it happened last thursday,

the defense should have been, um, uh or i should say them a copy hooligans day should have been um, well, what's more closely by the police because the mayor actually um a point to some areas in amsterdam as so called safety zones where the police has more uh, like, rights to uh, make sure everythings stay safe. but even within the safety sounds mcafee hooligans were able to not only sing genocidal chance, but also with tech people that looked like arabs and also prose. busy for example, through the houses that had published in the flags. so there's a lot of, uh, a lot of things that went from there. you've all, i saw you react in quite a bit to what jeezy was saying that looked like you want us to jump in. so i'll let you do that. you know, i, i completely agree with everything. judy said,

i mean the, the, the moment of the reason to kick you out over a fee, fine, we're not allowed as kind of gauge to, to go on because of the genocide and because the patients. but it's fine. but also anybody who has any kind of knowledge on the phone and they still have display to realize of concern for folks. so i'm sort of in the middle of that at least then kind of go. and we also see a few videos. the police is a c to not that at all when people are being attacked by that, i'm going to get it by your mac. i mean when again and then also to, to the bank of i. so when we do it with a really good says the deal is police and they're not doing anything well is planning on taking off for 1st the new check for right now. um so yeah,

that's definitely part of the story you want. let me also ask you a, from your perspective, what does this incident reveal about what's going on currently in doug society and, and how deep rooted are the divisions? well, i think, you know, it's, it's clear that a lot of our media differently, a lot of our politicians rush really quickly to find what has happened as and to submit to guidelines. they want to weaponized opportunities against the same movement, but they also want to push this problem away from white start society to muslims and arabs. so i, i found it really allow me and i also found the extra, the police to be really scared in the morning. let me get

your take on this. um, i know we've spoken about this a little bit already, but from your vantage point, should the incidents that with this fuse had been foreseen and prevented. and why were thousands of mac could be tel aviv supporters known and having a reputation for violence and anti europe slogans. why should they have been allowed to visit amsterdam while israel is waging this war on cause as well? i think we need to view this entire situation in the broader context of is really impunity which has become a central doctrine of the western governments. i think the 1st responsibility should be placed on the leadership of the international football federations fee for and you a fellow who really have absolutely no excuse not to have dealt with is real years ago. the same way. they have more recently ended and almost immediate fashion dealt

with the russian football association and russian football clubs, literally within days of the russian invasion of, of ukraine. but as of both mister felt has and industry, a goal was saying, this could have been foreseen if one is even in a curse here way familiar with this particular um uh, football club and its supporters or with the situation in the netherlands. what we've had now as we speak. so that's part of the event is a rough thing in a festival of 8th directed audits on citizens. those of middle eastern background, moroccans in particular. i mean, it's important to understand that in another lives is now being ruled by an individual has to build us who makes donald trump look like a social net, a democrat, and the prime minister that he is

a point. dig skulls is really the dots equivalents of j edgar hoover, and they have gone out of their way to insight and insight and insight against their own citizens. and uh, you know, grand standing also because there is a war of position being conducted in increasingly chaotic dots politics between the right and the left and the right and the aides and within the fall. right. so all of this grandstanding is partially about the situation that we've seen in the past week, but it's also about them trying to preserve their position and increase their power of ease of each other and, and, and you know, more broadly, um, even the leader of the desktop position has framed this entire issue within the context of anti semitism builder. so according to news reports in parliament today even went so far as to say,

anti semitism was invented by us now. and so quite clearly, you know, it has nothing to do with the situation and gaza has nothing to do with the conduct of these races, genocidal boons rampage through the center of the dots capital. but it's really a problem of anti semitism. in other words, perpetrators are the victims, and those are they attacked. are the aggressors g z i. i saw you uh, nodding along to a lot of what 1000000 was saying there. i'm gonna give you a chance to go in and respond. yeah, thank you. yeah, i agree with with both speakers actually because uh, i think uh it says to say that the bill is, has been waiting for a moment like this uh, to point the finger at migrants and uh, what you also saw on that is very interesting to mention here is that on fridays builders, who of course is a very well known racist and a muslim hater. the set down with the speaker of the cat said, and as

a reaction to this right away after it does government officials, politicians and media, they rolled out the red carpet for officials from these rarely regime. and also for the sign is propaganda. so what we see is basically, i think you can describe it in 3 fold. so rather than what happened last week is being used to escape goat muslims in the netherlands to push the agenda of the extreme right. which is a hateful towards muslims. uh it is, uh it is, it is a slim a forward a 2nd. so you're using it also to restrict the right to protest because since the beginning of the pro palestinian student protests, the extreme like has been a. busy claim for restrictions on the right to protest and here in amsterdam, specifically the student protests have been beaten down severely by the police

would. ready which i considered to be in a crazy amount in the police, 5 minutes for 4, peacefully protesting students. and then the 3rd is what i mentioned before that did they all range. the also induced to refer to design is the gen that also within the does the government and it is, i think highly likely and used to be up to the government, which the genocide against the public opinion is going to increase. you've all, i want to ask you about the fact that your organization error of rav cancelled a crystal, now come embracing event at the jewish resistance monument and amsterdam, for security reasons. as i understand it, the way that the police and answer them reacted to the actions of the my copy tell of you fans is one of the reasons. could you elaborate as to why this decision was made? when i read the, it's the main reason that we can sort of, we have to cancel. we had discussions with the police and the local uh,

restriction on wednesday morning when we explained or very clearly to get the one that's on the basis of the call. guys eventually does. we have to say that clearly we are scared of the uh, on the cuz mine we are scared of them and i know that i speak with the police seem to be more interested in uh, in uh, actually. so they do, for example, they told us a few times for bill scared that we, we, they managed the one year land where we were only thing the we were supposed talk to someone. and when i explained to them, you know, contact to jewish people, the 3 of them at the store, and one of them into the cost is failed to be offensive. they said, well, we'll scale, divide the communities, and they seem very interested in the course. you know, we're going to talk about the function of crossing. we're gonna talk about that because you cannot remember going across from adults mentioned in the genocide for

the 1st time. um so and then really we saw the way that they behaved unity that the games. oh, i see, i see the 1st thing was the found the day to binding this event. so for these kind of let them happen. so then we have to make a decision. um, are we going to can we fix this for civility for the behavior of the, of the police in our fitness? what's the reason for the safety of our members? but also we also scared that the police is going to use our as an excuse to it, that other people across the street mind. let me ask you about the fact that the mayor of amsterdam sent from k house in uh, she faced a lot of criticism for having use the term program to describe

a tax on is rarely fans at a city council meeting on tuesday. she was asked about why she had use that term and she said that she wasn't going to take it back from your perspective. is that kind of language particularly dangerous that at a time like this, as well, of course. and as you know today, and part of the event we had one party leader got really informed the floss who basically is the representative of factory business in the depths of government. i'm comparing what happened to the 19 thirty's and, and, and 19 forties and, and, you know, it's just completely over the top, this grand standing with respect to the mayor of amsterdam from, from the house of a she's the former leader of the green left party. and when she was, i mean, she received, you know, more massage in a stick and sexist attacks from villages send as followers. then there has been in the entire history of the sloane i should add. and,

and part of part of what's going on here is that the right is going after her and they want to remove her from office and replace her with someone more to their liking. and that also, i think he explains all the attacks against police, against the police force, which you don't like any other police force in europe or north america, institutionally racist. and as, as mr gal was explaining, was basically defending and protecting, rather than suppressing the hooligans as, as they went about their own little pock groman amsterdam against people of the era, the appearance and the problem with, with the may or is it rather than responding uh, with with reality rather than defending the residents of her own city against

these thugs who had come to terrorize them, she too decided to place this entire incident in the context of anti semitism. as if people were, were not being attacked by these will lagoons. and as if the reasons people started attacking these little against have nothing to do with um, uh, what they were doing in the city. but was motivated purely and exclusively by jew hatred. and, and that's the general tenor. and this entire political class of this country from the king, the normal looks on the, on down to the leader of the opposition and the mayor of amsterdam, the o employee, a fuse to come out in defense of their own citizens and replacing the blame on once again, on the victims of these thoughts rather than pointing the finger at these will against themselves moines, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but i want to follow up on something you said earlier you earlier, and one of your answers, you said that parliament was erupt being in a in

a festival of 8, because there is an inquiry that is underway right now that it's looking further into the violence as well as the actions of the judge authorities. do you expect that that is something that could actually help ease tensions? or do you foresee that it's going to make things worse? the look, the problem with holland now with the netherlands, is that it is on the verge of experiencing a situation similar to that we saw in great britain over the summer, with the difference. that was the government in london basically sent in law enforcement well seeking to downplay on the antique asian, an antique motion of elements of what was happening here. you have a government and prime minister administers and coalition partners who were actively, constantly inciting against their own citizens. with pure unadulterated,

h read. and so it could end up very much worse than, than what we saw as far as this inquiry is concerned. it really depends on who's going to be in charge. what are their terms of reference? if it speaks the truth, will it lead to even more polarization, from builders and, and his, and his supporters or will it be kind of a cover up that will once again emphasize this false narrative, that what was really happening here was an extension of the holocaust or, or of sorest pogroms or of anti semitism more generally, you know, there's also part of what's going on here is also an attempt to frame what is happening in the middle least as not the result of what is real was doing to the palestinians. but to place it up to present it also as ultimately nothing more and

nothing less than an anti semitic campaign against the jewish people. j. z, i saw your eyes. yeah, i'm going to let you chime in there, but i also want to ask you uh, the government, under the leadership of the far right freedom party was quick to ask for strong measures against muslims involved in the violence, including the partitions from your vantage point where does that take things going forward as well? uh, if it's okay, i would like to come back to the 1st question. you meant us before about the mirror? whole somebody because i mean the city council and i want to say here that a are may, are lied in the city council about mostly mostly moment that was hit on the head by a riot police while she was looking for her child c, n c collapse that she ended up on the floor with a blood covered in or with a face covered in blood. and she has disliked now has been exposed by an independent uh, medium acre left laser,

but also uh next to the fact that the mirror doesn't take back to using the word problem. uh, she didn't come back to us saying that the car, the who guns she shouldn't have been welcome. she also mentioned that the possible that the demonstration band is possibly going to be extended. she defendant, the defendant, the police and, and you can sum it up as a that she still has a hold held on to one side of the frame that is basically being set out by zionist design. is mdx seen right? being a propagandist and what happened as a result of everything that's being, that's been going on in amsterdam. it broke out to riots, broke out in a new west district. and on monday and yesterday they completely shut off all public transport in a new list. so people from that district where the majority of the muslim community

lives had to walk a well kilometers to get home. and this is exactly what the people that i spoke to were afraid of. because one of the people from the neighborhood actually told me in that i quote that the actions of individuals will lead to collective punishments against a whole must name community. and i think that's perfectly describing what happened and what is happening as we speak. i'm sorry to interrupt you, but we just have about a minute and a half left i. i saw you've all also uh, looking like you wanted to enter jack, you well, i want to ask you 1st um, how much political fall out might there be? and then other ones going forward when it comes to all this and how concerned are you that this, this is only going to get worse? well, i think we can really see that it's kind of get across. i think that the 1st step is to me and which is all being fine. also very be part of the media, including a public term with gusty. uh, does i know why them to get there?

they're very much interested in keeping more customers find the most importantly, i submitted on the card to this and, and people from both communities are actually multi to come together and to night. and that's also something i can say i, i do agree that, you know, the most important point from, from our perspective should be to the safety of i'm so the, and the government, the benevolence, they have to start collaborating and promote the genocide in 1st time that is the main issue and um, uh sometimes your last demonstration something for patients, which is now our fire because the orange this uses 2 thirds responsibility for the way the cities b. as in relation to the genocide. she's the introducing any channel

sanctions or the investment. oh boy, good is your hall. i'm sorry. you've all, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but we have run out of time so we're going to have to leave the conversation there . thanks so much all of our guess. winner of bonnie jeezy, both housing and you've all gone and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website up 0 dot com. and for further discussions, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash age and side story. you can also during the conversation on x r handle is at a j inside story for me and how many times human a whole team here, bye for now, the just weeks of to the us selections. brazil will host global leaders of the g 20 summit design to seek agreement on global issues. but with an outgoing us president vladimir putin refusing to attend. how much can be achieved in these on certain

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