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hello there and welcome to the program. i'm nora, kyle donald trump. foreign policy during his 1st time was guided by his campaign slogan, america fast. what he delivered, critic say, was chaos. he bun through 2 secretaries of state to defend secretaries before national security advisers. he left the us out of the powers climate. the code on the wrong nuclear deal. as administration also recognized your worst limits as well as capital trump 2nd time will bring new challenges. the most pressing was, he said he'll end the fighting in ukraine on day one, but hasn't explained how his ponds on garza and 11 and a just as vague and the people he's choosing to drive his agenda a controversial marker. would it be? i know many for section of state is focused on china. defense actually pick p takes, that's the of israel sit next occupied westbank and national security adviser,
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appointee. mike walls wants to come to aid to ukraine. so how do trump choices signal his foreign policy to come, move in place to ukraine, garza lebanon, will raise these questions with our experts. and just a bit. first, this report by sar ago, together with donald trump. we are going to make america not just for the man who was was this is christine was donald trump. now monica rubio is an ally and tap should be the next us secretary of state. it's a tremendous honor to the present replaced with confidence in me in a position of such importance. rubio is a foreign policy hotline of knowing favoring military might over diplomatic measures. his support, the israel is an wavering. here we are outside the office of senator marco's review . last year she told peace that to the masses to blame for the death of
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palestinians and gaza. are you familiar with your guys to get this? i wanted to destroy every element from us. they can get their hands on. these people are vicious animals who did horrifying crimes. and i hope you guys post palestinian se trump. so many nations are a major step back in achieving piece heavy. and why should i have to show these indicators such as clearly that the us will continue to faith israel and that will only him to the potential for a settlement and consequently prolonged the conflicts and suffering the palestinian people. and then that's pete. hex s trump surprise picks the defense secretary. he's an army best friend and tv personality with no political experience. many in the republican policy and in the defense industry are alarmed. he has excellent qualifications as a military officer, a junior officer, he's got excellent educational credentials, but he has no, i level national security experience and there's never run a large organization is confirmed hex that will have to do one thing. task was in
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the middle east and ukraine on the highly charged us china rivalry. excess is also an outspoken critic of nato, but it's secretary general and says the alliance is integral to us security. i've worked with the law firm for 4 years in my previous law, finding us told him that once i had a very good working relationship with him, he will do everything needed to defense united states. and he is rather rare that your membership of nato is part of the defense of us from rapiers, hotline policies to headsets and experience. president trump choices continue to spock, debate with gaza. nothing on an ukraine on the line. the stakes couldn't be higher . sorry, go out to 0. the inside story. the well that spring in august now and in washington d. c. no signage,
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a white house come this full the hell newspaper and coaches. so you k. natasha lives that professor of government at the university of essex. and did on off of michigan, but james, larry, professor of middle east politics at the castle, university of i will welcome to all of you know, it's been quite weak, but in washington is trying to gather speed with his appointments. and what's the feeling that about his foreign policy picks the funding? first off the top floor, we have to say it is present electronic proofs going to drive policy. he's the one who's going to make the decisions that has always been the case in his political career. not having said all of that. the foreign policy choices generally reflects his worldview. of course it is people who are loyal to him who are part of the my god based for the most part really on good are good is a little bit of an exception to that more of an establishment republican kind of
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figure, even though he has previously controlled more of late, but if you look at people like p tanks for my copy of a who has to be nominated to be on by surgery, israel, or various others, there are people who are really very much all not america 1st waiting that you alluded to in your introduction. absolutely. and natasha some of the reactions if we look now at europe, some of the reactions that i'm being seeing from that are words like terrifying, unpredictable big and by the preferred picks are a bit less or full than the others. is that in the general time that you'll hear, i mean, there's definitely a huge concern in europe with just the election of trump. but also with some of these picks that seem to be more based on loyalty, then, then competence. i know that europe has been preparing for this, and i am a chrome was actually sitting very loudly sounding the alarm that europe has to be prepared to be independent from us. they can't rely on us, they have to build up their own military and security measures. and there's going
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to be a lot of pressure on europe. and just looking at the case of ukraine is trauma pressures, you credit into some kind of a surrender with, with russia and then has to give a whole lot of territory will be your that will probably be paying the bill of reconstruction. there's, there's just a lot of concerns also about the pick up tools, the governor for, for intelligence b, because she'll be heading 18 intelligence agencies. and the democrats are concerned that she's sort of, russian asset the uses russian talking points. and there's concerns about whether or not and you know, they'll be braces of intelligence. certainly european side though they were preparing for this. there is a lot of concerns about where things are going to go. and i'd like to just add that in the previous trump administration. they're more traditional people surrounding from people that believed more and in democratic processes and were able to steer
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in better this time you, you don't have that who have some really well takes a lot. i want to pick up on from both of your answers. the festival that's bringing my teams where it's a get some idea of what the feeling is in the middle east because much of you're normally based tearing though hot. feel pretty top 10 to the feelings throughout the region. here in the, in the middle east, there's a unimportant to saying that which would be the difference between um, some administration and by then by that it has approved or contributed to that kind of genocide. and because i couldn't go to them 50000, the people majority of them are kids and women and, and injured more than 120000 probably spinning, and basically the destruction of what goes up. so that's all of this happened. and the con, the investigation which, which basically contributed financially politically, to the, to a top of that was that so the, the, the new coming a decision. but they, they, they can do one thing which basically imposing solutions. they kind of doing more
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than kidding what has been done already. the, i think be nature the point that that's maybe you know. so the perception is very clear that there is not a huge difference between um, by the administration or the time i misplaced it, or maybe the, that the good point about from he's been in clear people that kind of need what he does and he doesn't know the session and they come to some extent, but i'm not saying you're predicting, but they kind of realized that to you would create more destruction to what type to what's happening and what adults. and i think one of the uh, ideas of focusing on one and image, which basically people should not be optimistic about everything that a tom or his team will do it. because small politics, the small differences, they may change the whole dynamic about what's happening in the middle east. so that is important to watch, especially when it comes to imposing solutions. and here what it meant by the have
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a good i think is a decision was to follow on that to hold off on that and trying to impose solutions, including westbank and supporting the to the i was glad to have uh for the oh, complete southern see i'm in west bank. oh no, so let's pick up on that. but the impact that these picks might have on the middle east region because they all very, very much just pro israel, but apparently pro fall white is riley. paula sees you have like face and all of the occupied westbank putting supplements back into garza. where do you think the regions headed enough for the does the direction in my good. i mean you how, for example, you mentioned the occupied with fine my car, but usually i mentioned in my earlier around serve used to be nominated to be in charge of the passer treat. israel does not use the phrase on an all new repair into the work altered by. he refers to the territory us to day. i'm so mary,
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it appears to believe that it was divinely granted to the state of history. oh no, i don't really want to get into the position of defending devices ministration because i think those policies speak for themselves of the death tools fixture itself, but divided ministration in theory placed believes in a 2 state solution. in theory, he believes that there should the base as a whole post and you understand what they don't basically. and the way i find the guys i know i'm is not all clear the trump ministration believes that horrible things if i married, are just very briefly treat on what was said earlier. this statement was made to people or at least clear about wall trump believes, i'm not sure that's true because if you look at the city of deer, martin and michigan was mature of cities in the united states. mr. trump think for also you will hoops, bearer and i, i don't think there was people were putting on the basis of what i left struggled
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with frank getting through them. so there they were, i believe made promises during trump campaign, but he has already broken now just briefly, can you just to expand on that for all rodents. yes, absolutely. so basically you're in the account again, there was a michigan, there's a key stage in american elections. it has the highest concentration of out of americans in the nation. how, how does last the home from, well, it moved up to election day trauma were say things like, well, ira, generally interested in pace. that's the only thing that are appealing to, he was at least implying that there was legitimacy. turn the criticism all by his policies. there now, i certainly believe there's legitimacy to that criticism, but this is, there is no evidence false to wherever the trump has any intention of moving in the direction that he appear to be imply. okay, latasha, one thing that we can be sure of at this stage at least,
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is that trump wants to end the was in the weld, the ukraine. well being one of them. we've got presence of domestic lensky of ukraine, also saying that he wants this war to ends next year in a diplomatic manner. does he believe that from will be able to deliver that? and that's the ending? well, what can you cranes favor? so the lensky believes he has no choice, he's been put in a corner here because he knows that he's not going to be receiving the type of aid that was coming, that have no trade. that was kind during the by administration. and they know that they're about to face a really hard winter. they know that they're struggling to maintain their levels of recruits. they, they know that their infrastructure, much of their infrastructure has been destroyed and that they're not going to be able to continue to wage this world without us support, which is the, the largest donor. and so i hate zalinski is hopeful that he can get some kind of deal that doesn't force the ukrainians to seed so much territory and to
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remain really insecure indefinitely. so he's trying to at least signal to the us that they don't be told that that trump will be able to create some sort of deal. but i think he's been pushed into a corner on this. i don't think this is what the premiums want it at all, but they feel that they haven't choice towards extends kind of a europe. natasha moved to fill the gap. that's going to be left by the us. should it stop is age to crime? to i think it's going to be very difficult because there's already fatigue with providing the level of a that the ukrainians require. and probably the most difficult stages of the conflict for russia. they've been able to weather and they seem willing to just keep losing man in large numbers and just keep this war going on indefinitely. i don't know if the result is there from the europeans. i think they are individually
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trying to increase their own security. you know that in the baltic countries where they actually fear russian aggression and countries like a sonia unlocked and they're trying to double their, their number of military troops. and there are many countries in, within nato that are trying to get towards, you know, spending 2 percent of their g, p on their military spending, knowing that they will have to be alone and they are going to be able to rely on us now with the pick up market reveal that means that he was one of the people that wrote the legislation that said that the us can't lead nato. that doesn't mean that there is some commitments. no. um, but do your parents know that they will have to shoulder a lot of the burden moving forward? absolutely. a bunch of one area that we do know that the us will continue sending a to israel. this trump team is being highly critical on 5 and threats to
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withdrawal military aid. if israel doesn't keep up humanitarian aid deliveries and improve the situation in gone, so that's going to be no thoughts, threats coming from the trump administration. although i think it's expected that is where you want to see more support from a trumpet ministration. more then, not only when it comes to the political support but also and to the idea that the strong believe of what that's in yahoo has in mind that says to me, as someone photo in the region important, then that military important done politics because the model begins to close to the ideology, cut aspect that by 10 yahoo believes and that's the great support that then you know, once i think that is what he wants to do in 2025. that's when he talks about the uh, basically the solvency on on, on a 2 part was turned by. what's about i think what's important also to, to,
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to minutes to monitor is how much are the, the team of, of, of the term can have. uh, i would say agreed and the agreement on the how things should be done on that at all, because they are having a many voices coming from the agent. and there is also the impact coming from different countries in the region to try. so these are the cut eyes, and it's on a policy towards the middle east, and this would have also impacts and i, and i think we saw the meeting, the mask with the money in either present in the united vision. that's an indicator about what's i quoted, is the types of problem with then, i mean, this is expected from someone who has water elected point changes motor in product . it's not many because that's not to explain to someone who was not elected, allow me to send one centers to say that the jump in the, in the areas where most of my data, where a majority g was voted for based on the social agenda by this time and this is
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number 2, so i don't think so. i mean i, i visited to places where mister adams are there and the major issue number one to the associate agenda. they are would also be alive. you can uh far less deliberate ident that democrats has posted the last 4 years. and those are those that have families and they are what are the only points been said positive from, from is associated as the end. and then the last point, $8.00, the is i want to look at see, on who's actually picked up cause there's the photos administration. so, so i think i'm ready to, i was, i'm assuming i've already talked to them. number one is to ensure that agenda and number 2, that's a either other methods indeed, you know, if this administration things be experienced enough to deal with the very complex nature has not just laid out for us in the mid least, all of the conflicting relationships that are going on,
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they fully plugged into one of that so i was maybe slightly on hours or not. if you own a question, laura, the, there is a tendency, i think in america and in the washington establishment to talk about the experience of all else. if we look at the historical record, isn't true, that experience leads to why is your decision in the middle east or anywhere else? i mean, it was an argument to be made back in the days. for example, by and hillary sense. i'm a guest for football. but her view in which i completed support her to the water was one of the main reasons why she lost her product right here. people like jamie donald rumsfeld, are extremely experienced and foreign policy does not lead them to me good or solid decisions. so it is true that someone like the text uh, for example, has printed double bonds, burial experience. he has to be fair to a master's degree from our but i guess what i'm pushing back on is the idea. the
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experience in the cells leads to good decisions. i don't think there's really very much of us for that at all and mission, dominican just okay. well i can certainly see my do agreeing with you wholeheartedly the the test to do you agree that's that's true to some extent of you. you could have the new a comes that they had all kinds of experience and they were making all kinds of bad decisions when it came to, to our rock in particular. and the way the conflict in that can assume was, was handled. but i think it with the role department of defense, you do need some experience. you need some experience managing. if you've got $2700000.00 employees, if you're running an enterprise that's worth $800000000000.00, and in the case of feet high stuff, his experience is running a small tune. yes. on combat experience. with that certainly isn't that anywhere near enough that would be needed to, to run the department of defense. and i think that's a really poor package. it said, you know, real concerns throughout the,
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the a, from us policy makers. of course they're going to be loyal to jerome, but i think this really shocked them and they'll be a couple of senators that are really going to have a tough time with supporting the types of to be the new department of defense. secretary know, policies as unpredictability, as a diplomatic strength. would you agree with that? well, well, i think the do i agree that a trump is unpredictable? certainly. yeah. and she has provided a boned them. there were many, many years a, you know, one only needs to look at his dealings with north korea to have a very clear example of the woman that he was about to reach enormous destruction over a 100 miles the duration of li, referred to the north korean leader of them, by the end of his tribe, he was talking with them reading level letters to each other. so there is certainly unpredictability. like i guess the argument implicitly, your question is,
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goes on predictability on food arrivals or adversary's. is there a question that we'd better get ourselves in line because there's no telling but from my day that 20 supporters which say, hey i, i also think the flip side of that is there is a lot of, i'm sure the under the security and sometimes the lack of a lot of a, particularly as it relates to, to europe, which natasha repair, to not only to the situation in ukraine, but the situation in edinburgh. aust, waves of eastern europe where exactly the united states, the base of a uh, you know, traditional allies or other eastern european nations that are not traditional allies, but seeing the danger by potential russian expansions 2 by 2. but it seems that the, the, the lead us, the countries that are going to benefit most from the trump administrations and the ones that have a measurable payment. i'd say nothing. yahoo is one of those people. if the washington post reports has to be believed, nothing. yahoo was planning to gift
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a lebanese cease 5 proposal to trump on his entry into the white house to give him an initial foreign policy boost. do you think that's going to one, i think. and the whole is in a, as soon as the crisis and lebanon, he's failing, he's the, was trying to, the defined a victory of, by bringing back to the success as to the, uh, the, there, the citizen, the north and his right. he has failed to do so he, he has the destruction 11 and nothing has to be seen as well as that is a talking most of us, it does it as i, i think what is with a significant is what he's trying to do is of course, i agree with that i, i actually, i did the project 2 weeks ago and a session here that there would be a sort of a i just showed up from it then you all to some so he can give him the color. it's actually, but i think this would not be helpful and to aspect number one, that is
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a serious a issues, but it's like he is facing internally and there's a domestic politics. and secondly, i think that there should be a that we expect to see more or trying to do to the administration, especially with the sideline or but of course. yeah. and that's the point that i want to bring them discussion because we talked about deposition, but we, we forget that this, the new and the session wanted to side line one of the, the big bustle based study cut across in the united states or was still a big state deep stake. now we're starting that he's trying to actually get to the bottom of this by what he's doing now with a mask. and the more he's doing this, the more of the decision making, the process and why something wouldn't go to a new concept. i really smart, a great decision maker space sickly. similar to a 2 category, james. so basically that would be naughty lions on those. so odd experience a the memory of the country without a defense, important part of seat and security does. no, it'd be glad you decided line and this would be all decision. wouldn't be made
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based on that short reports short i would say uh the commendation done last maybe week or 2 weeks and then that decision can be made and that is very dangerous to the position of the doctor, the state to the institutionalization. and then i can just say, and also to that is that it is not because there was always talking about the state, had an added decision making process and buy something. and that's to be on the issue is that is to deal with domestic politics of the united states, which of course has a huge impact on the rest of the well the tasha as we see and he was perhaps retreating from global alliance, is like nato, like the paris climate, a quote, it becomes less of a world leader perhaps less relevant to what we see new alliances, fleming, and it's place. i don't know, it's hard to say, but we know that the us retreating from multilateralism has a huge impact. the river rates all around the world. first of all,
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just effects the level of democracy when the u. s. is that it's most democratic that actually has knock on effects and the level of democracy around the globe. we see very different trading relationships that have happened. we have more democracies trading more, we don't talk procedure, then they're trading with other democracies and we just don't have a leader with the us sort of stepping away from this and going forward with this america 1st agenda. and i think one of the issues the trunk when you saw it was actually on this internal entity has already that has already been stated that i don't know how much he even cares or knows about foreign policy. he says he can make the deals quickly. he likes to be unpredictable. we don't have the evidence that downtown theory actually works and he's going to be very focused on the enemy within cutting the deep state, you know, getting rid of 50000 civil servants, trying to find his enemies weaponized in the justice system of the little ones. so
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i think it's gonna be a lot of chaos to come now, not just in the last minute, but we have, we're talking about this particular teen now. how long you think it's going to last? i mean, if the historical record has any guy, not pretty long, mr. drunk, but the 1st time run out of a tree, massachusetts ministration, lots of people check died, north pole in into just favor one thing i made just the final few seconds. the recall is the parts of june natasha mature, could be making away multi lot the lives of those, of course mentorship with the specifics that we have been talking about. so for example, at least to find that nominated to be young bosses or to the united nations isn't hopefully uh, she's the owner of the share skepticism. hopefully that will strive to you as assess for long semitism. obviously not how does a very direct impact on the situation in gaza on funding for online and things of that nature is going to be very interesting for years at the very least. many thanks to a little guess for joining us here today. no spanish. natasha lives that and much
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