one says decide, i think is a very important point. this across few to has chosen very carefully to, to charge this particular crime. stop, stop, asian as a weapon of war. i'm primarily because as my one it says um your account or the defense of a self defense for, for such crime. and secondly, what the judges have completed on the basis of the, the evidence that they've said considered that there was no military necessity in those acts being coward. i then expose a war crime under the rules customs of war after the geneva conventions. and it's a crime against humanity due to the widespread systematic nature of the attack, right? so that would be the easier charge to prove the charge of using starvation as a method of wolfing. not necessarily. i mean, the database, of course the, the crime is at the top of the threshold so that, that,

that by no means easy crime is to, to, to prove that. but obviously the, the as we've repeatedly heard is wrong using self defense as knowledge meant for, for the bombardment of somebody in that area is that they are targeting minutes, military assets, all the targeting areas that are used by, from us in and amongst the civilians and so the argument codes and principal carry my weights. um, i would say that it does me and i think it was, is going to be almost impossible for israel to even establish self defense for, for the, the, the bombardment that has occurred. i the devastation of cause of it's actually for the crime full time of starvation problems. it's either that there's very little that they can say as to why that is necessary. but i think what's important is because it just shows the entire, the humanize ation of the,

by the state and people that we've seen repeatedly from that on your own, from calvin and other members of the government and, and referring to out of stadiums as animals. and saying that the, the old terrorist and that, that will target something that it is, it shows the level of depravity and dc migration that we've, we've been driving. okay. told me i want to get clarity now on what happens next year, because we've had 2 conflicting views. earlier i had 2 previous guess. one who said they will be a trial regardless of whether nat, geo, and kalonde show up at the hague. and another saying they cannot be, they cannot be a trial and i've sent you. what is the reality of what happens next as far as this, as well as that, so that kenzie charles and i've sent this, it's not an ideal situation, but with with no, i'm seeing in,

in the case of county from, from you down to so they've already started the process for him to be tried in his absence on the basis that the i, c. c has been unable to secure as his arrest and surrender to, to the except for criminal court. so in principle, they kind of have charles and i've sent it again. it's not something that personally i support, i don't think that it serves a particularly, it doesn't send a particular affective message. it's important to have a trial that is for ad is transpired to end it as opposed to public with those individuals being tried. but they would obviously be a mess of that the, the prosecute or the court will have to consider in terms of whether they will be able to secure the rest and surrender of what we've heard. in the past, european countries have effectively stated the walls they've done support this process. they think it is wrong to be using nice using such a way,

but they wouldn't on the less be found for the rest of it. and it's on yahoo! oregon. if, if they were to enter the territory, they even germany and often support from israel has, has made quite clear that they would have to the rest of the. so think what we're going to see is a great to say that rattling was coming days and weeks. and then at some point, they will have to be a determination as to whether it is realistic to have either of them in the 8 or whether that won't be a discussion on verbs. problem offensive. tobey, thank you so much for your analysis and inside. thank you for it for making it, making it all clear to us so to be cabman and international human rights story. joining us say from dubai, it is coming up to a $14.00 oh $5.00 gmc and you are watching colleges here with our special breaking news coverage of the international criminal court d i. c. c at the hague, issuing arrest warranties for israel's foreign minister, benjamin netanyahu,

and for my defense minutes, are you off kalonde for war crimes committed in the gaza strip? the court also issued an arrest warrant for him. i see them have a day for israel says it killed back in july the i c. c. a keys, especially out and go on to war crimes, including using salvation as a method of warfare and crimes against humanity such as murder, persecution, and inhumane acts. the court says that he out and kalonde knowingly deprived cause of civilian population of food, water medicine, and fuel. it also says that by preventing humanitarian assistance, israel failed to fulfill its obligations under international humanitarian. no set. boston has the latest from mounts to them. exactly. 6 months and one day off to prosecute the cut them con, requested the arrest of organs against nathan, y'all and guidelines and 3, how must lead us. now? these 3 arrest warrants have been issued. one against from us need up, dave,

the other 2. how much lead us are confirmed that assassinated by israel and the other 2 against nature. jo ann galani, what these lead us to is where a lead us are accused of our crimes against humanity and war crimes. and one of the crimes that they've been accused of is using starvation as a weapon of warfare. and this is something that the prosecutor time has really elaborated on when he requested use arrest war and saying there is a lot of evidence that israel has deliberately taken food or withdrawn food or ham . but the delivery of food, of, for the people in guys us. so now the question is, when these arrest will take place? we know, of course, that against a president vladimir putin of russia is also been a no rest for was issued. and he hasn't been detained. so far, but it doesn't mean is that the 125 member states of the i c. c will have subscribed to the rooms that you have the legal obligation to detain. anyone who

has been issued an arrest warrant against by the icy seats. so that means that for sure the travel will be limited for is for abc, this trying to visit countries like germany, the u. k. the not less than that. and so has already said that it will, will commit to this obligation and other countries will surely follow step 5, which is 0. so that, well, there's been a flurry of reactions to this news that's bringing home to us on who to is in jordan's capital amman for us. and i'm just gonna tell us about these really reaction. now what are the, is really a government official saying about this? i see decision of the, of the well before we get into any other is really politicians. let's talk about the statement that's coming from these rarely prime minister's office. a lengthy statement slamming the decision, beginning with the words, quote, the anti semitic decision of the international criminal court is a modern drake,

this trial, and will ends in the same way, going on to say that israel really rejects every thing within the i. c, c's jurisdiction saying that it does not agree at all with this decision that it's fighting a just an moral war. but this isn't a surprise that all we expected this type of rhetoric from nathaniel whose office we also expected this kind of rhetoric from members of his own government. like you to me are bank viewer. who said again that this decision was anti semitic, but we've heard this so many times from is really politicians when any sort of international bodies holding israel accountable for its crimes. they go on to say that these bodies are corrupt, they are hypocritical, and that they have a blatant anti israel bias, but 1st they say that is anti semitic. but e, some are ben via the countries national security minister, a known alter national is, has said that in response to these arrest warrants, israel should quote, establish full sovereignty over the occupied west bank. continue on with the legal

settlements, bolster them all over the country. and also sanction what he calls the terrorist authority that's the palestinian authority saying that they should be sanctioned. there should be no sort of security cooperation with them. so just to give you an idea, but also israel's opposition has come out and said that this is hypocritical, that this is a moral stain that this should not have happened in the 1st place. but this is the rhetoric we've been hearing from across these really political aisles is the idea of arrest warrants was loaded several months ago. israel has also targeted the i c . c. c prosecutor. and that's mentioned in as in yahoo statement saying that the i ccs g, a prosecutor is quotes trying to cover up some sort of sexual harassment allegations by presenting these arrest lawrence. so israel is not seeing this favorably, of course, but whenever there is some sort of decision against israel, they come out against it. but this is a different ball game. this is arrest warrants for a prime minister and

a former defense minister for waging a war on millions of palestinians and are now being or going to be rather these arrest warrants being issued for crimes against humanity and war crimes that were committed in dollars. so what next steps can we expect from these remedies? uh, uh huh. how might they respond? well, these really is along with the americans have said that they would work closely together to sanction the i c. c, to make sure that nothing y'all, one gallons are not arrested in any which way we have the people from the new administration, the incoming administration come january saying that they would do anything in their power to sanction the i c. c, to make sure that these are us, do not take place, but when it comes to israel, they say they're going to continue fighting the war however they see fit. in fact, just a day ago, nets and yahoo and his new defense minister, israel camps were touring gauze the they were on garza shores saying,

but they have significant achievements in this war. but the reality is, this is a war that after 13 months there is little to no military achievements in this war . that is regarded as a genocide. more than 43000 palestinians killed 100000 other casualties. 2000000 people who been forcibly displaced by israel's war. and these really say that they're going to continue. they said they want to release the remaining captive. they're around a 100 left, but they don't really have a plan on how to do that. other than relentless bombardment, and now according to the i, c. c, using starvation as a weapon of war along with all of the other tactics. israel has been fighting this war. i'm to thank you very much for going home to san jose, live there in amman, jordan for hi moss, as welcome to the i. c. c's. decision calling is really prime minister informa defense, basically off golan terrace. in a statement the group said that the arrest warrant is an important historical

precedent and a correction to a long path of historical injustice against palestinians from ass cold in the icy c to expand the scope of his warrants to include all of his raz leaders and ministers who have been involved in killing palestinians. it goes on to say that israel's leaders have subjective palestinians to the most heinous facts of killing carries and install vacation, known to modern history. it is now bringing honey my mode for i send darrow blah, central guys of the accusations that i've been made against is, are as leader as of a war. crimes and crimes against united to using starvation as a weapon of war is something that you have witness every single day for over a year. now in the gaza strip. honey. the absolutely. and it keeps on folding, you know, very, very difficult. wait and put more people's life at risk here,

particularly in the reservation. it created in the northern part of district where is there's literally 0 access to any of the basic needs to keep people alive. this is exactly the trend interpretation of how starvation is used as a walk in of war by these rated prime minister, and by a, by his defense degree with, or the former one or the new one. they're still using the same exact policies of the starving people to death, then either to kill them or to enforce them out of their, their homes. this not for good. this is the sentiment that has fueled the genocide to keeps on folding. and this horrific away the early a weeks. i know in the early months of the gymnast, by the way, many of these really officials, including the political level and the military to get pushing for this kind of sentiment. and many of the, many of the acts on the ground, the gymnast by the likes to get going on without being on check via evacuation. send that have been deliberately, i've talked to many families inside their residential home. there were targeted the

many children that were killed, that many children that were killed inside their homes with their families or anything that has been feeding into that. this is a june fact the genocide and there are people who were very, very publicly bragging about, carrying out these genocide relax across the gaza strip. i've never seen any of the officials try it out from making data clear whether it's would it hot when it came to the pop relation to transfer was with the does a voluntary. it's a integration of, of palestinian and reading. the concentration is towns that are designated as more of the safe zone, but they are not save all of this together. despite all of this, it should actually, we just, we talked to people to briefly a while ago. all of this would be to take it with a grain of salt. here it goes in the face of the on wavering support of the, the us just what see last night. how are you as for the end of your own, secure accounts, to block them, a resolution to bring a ceasefire?

georgia tech i was going to ask you on the how people they are reacting to this news and whether they think it's going to make any difference at all to the daily struggles. think us well, what once again is taken with that little bit of a skepticism man with a grain of salt. again, we know the unwavering american support. in fact, it's some point it built as we talk to people, it felt like it's, it's actually the you out on the american administration is carrying out this genocide across the gaza strip. and that's what makes people very suspicious about the outcome of this rest warrant that there might be upset if might be a challenge by the but the, by the us administration on the border. it's the old one and the, the, the new i, the administration as well has valving the pots a few days to provide on wavering support for is really officials. but all in all it's, it's, it's a sort of development that words highlighting worth waiting for it's outcome. again,

within, in the midst of all of this one and priority that has not changed for more than a year now is at the end of this war, people are looking forward to waking up one, b and c. and to all of these work because the in force, the hydrogen enforced our vision, the ongoing non stop mass killing of civilians including the children and women. it's hard to think of a day going by without counting many women, many children, many vulnerable being killed inside their residential homes. inside the evacuation center go inside the dense the be we're instructed by the is really a monitor to set them up in what's called evacuation zones, or humanitarian saves, going in on the moxie or in the restaurant part of the spin from area. these areas turned into depth traps and it's still largely unsafe and have that sense of shot or security and safety has been deepening for more than

a year now as the war continued. honey, thank you very much for bringing us reaction day from guys, honey mode. let's discuss all of this further now, especially that the legal perspective and what happens next in the case with she's a boy or switch. he was a former president of international criminal court, is joining us from toronto. thank you very much sir for being with us on algae 0. i wanted to ask you 1st about the why now this decision by this size, the i c. c. because as we've heard from my correspondence and previous guessed, had been a great deal of pressure on the court, not to issue these arrest warrants. why do you think they've done so now as well? i cannot speculate about the timing of the, the rest, the water, and that's a asking me a political question decide. i'm not in a position to 10. so what's really important is to stress

that it much the, the, the point about the where the international currently is. and that is that international load does not accept the idea of immunity for everyone to live a powerful unit b. and however, um, you know, like salted, you may be just the last month and a new book i published those on this mazda end of the community. and really, the discussion was about the able to slip into last laws since the 1919 said progressively. and since i came to that settled in 1945, insisting that in the around the age of international. then when accused of the international crime, suprema 5, crescent genocide, crimes that goes to many, the war crimes must be held accountable. that is why the international is telling

us, and that is actively where they know what we've seen the know of foot. this decision by the i c. c comes off for soft to the legally binding order from the international court of justice. the world court, which was issued earlier this year, ordering israel to stop. it's offensive on guys saying what was happening in the gaza strip was, you know, tonton monte genocide are 2 important decisions. now in that i c j. case we saw a try, we saw israel was defending itself. what happens with this? i c. c warrants. now, whether or not these really need is whether or not net, yahoo and kalonde do appear before the court. will they be a trial to? that's also for little correction the i c j has not yet said said what is happening

is genocide. type c j has not st. that's fine. but to your point immediately, is that the, the, the, the nature of the, the process is that are the i c, c. we just have an arrest warrant. yeah. um, there is nothing yet uh, coming during the day that has to be what we call a confirmation of the charges. meaning the, the judges will do the prosecutor will the ones please the rest for an x x that good? then that would be the confirmation of charges because we have a file of charges and, and the judges would look at it and decide whether to confirm it or not. so that is a process that still, by the way, to the significance so that you're not going to have the trial any time soon. okay . um, but it will have, would be the states processed as

a rooms thought you would now be compelled to the $124.00 of them. they're under an obligation rest. anybody but i see see that's the see the restaurant against. so this would mean that the police are nothing new and is a colleague will not be able to travel to any holes, a $120.00 full members stage of the kind of cc. and this would include all of western europe because they are now under an obligation to the rest of canada, the zealand, australia, the united kingdom. so there's a huge part of the world to start would now be off limits for the trouble unless those countries that will come to violate their obligation to the i c. c, which is the unlikely. right? so you say, sir, that we're a long way from a trial, what needs to happen to take got to take us to that point of a trial. i mean,

if we're along this, these are again very important to clarify our arrest warrants when now what needs to happen in the legal process for there to be a try to do things stem that can happen. the one thing would be if the, the, those are the subject of arrest for and now the problem is that cool to look, you don't need to go that route of the rest for and you can come inside that to someone's to up here. we promise to up to see if you need us. so it's not makes it into more cooperative process. but it said we will come to defend our sorrows fully . there is no need for the rest for and if that makes sense, that those actual and the cortex subset, then you can have a speed, the process of them coming up and then the to the trial with. then they fix it to the diamond, put the set top and the judge is like 5 minutes. if the judges come funding doesn't,

then you can have a speed here tomorrow. but if they did a way and then it would be a cable kind of an mouse, dr. long's the prospect of getting anybody before the court. and that is important to as though that people should not be afraid of trials before the i c, c. the judges and the process is but bad. people tend to be the ones who been there in time to the the i see. see that is a one ways to you to come out. that is not true. the judges of the i c. c, by must press these, have a conductor 12 acquitted people because the judges to the files, but the evidence did not need to approve. so that has happened that have been instances where proud dirt is convicted and the appeal that is all that tons the conviction. so b 5 c c process is

a beret. the process that is fixed on the finest, all the trials. so it is in everybody's best interests to in guided to man everyone defends, so show up the, bring the lawyers. so all of these people we're talking about, you know, for the best lawyers in the world and defend themselves, right? we're not there yet. as you say, uh to the point of a trial. what about the bed? and this puts on, those countries that have supported israel during this war on guys are those countries that are provided weapons of the united states to force countries like germany as well could receive and implicated one way or another if they were a child, in this case, they remember the i c, c, the international criminal justice system operates on the basis of individual criminal responsibility. so they will not because there's no start to the i see

israel committed a crime that doesn't happen at the i c, c. it has to be a german, they committed a criminal us committed a crime. no, it has to be individuals. what they did, the evidence of what it did and to that, that, that's important to, to keep in mind. so we, we, people need to be quite specific. so what they say to anybody did before, we can be looking at, uh, the person doing a suspect that the international criminal court. so he's not that simple because that is what i was finding. it was the 3rd, yeah, is this the mazda approved updates? there's no question about that. but that doesn't mean because somebody's probably will use to the end justifies the means of value, for example. so these are all the to get a considerations like coming to do the calculations and that also goes to the what

do you call the button up on nations that may have supported as wrote in find thing, it's full doesn't mean automatically that they are guilty of crimes or the eyes easy. i thank you so much for for your insight into this. it's a very good to hear all these explanations. thank you. to a boy, a c g for the president of the international criminal court. joining us there from toronto. thank you very much. thank you. and they have been more reactions to this decision by d, i c. c, to assure arrest warrants against the israel's prime minister and his former defense minister as well as that the leader of hamas. why the day of the us senate republican means the crime has condemned the course decision calling it the international corrupt criminal court. he says the court has acted in the most absurd and irresponsible manner possible. he went on to say that the court is

a dangerous joke. it is now time for the us senate. he says to act and sanction this service sponsible body. and he called on democrat chuck schumer, to pass bipartisan legislation, legislation sanctioning the court. let's get more with our white house correspondent, kimberly hawk get lots of reactions now coming from the us congress. so then kimberly yeah. oh, well, what we're really waiting for is fresh reaction from the bind administration, but it's already on record as pushing back against any action by the i see. see, of course, a, we know already that when it comes to israel, the united states does not recognize any of the international criminal court actions with regard to prosecuting or even the specific arrest for it's for the prime minister or the defense minister when it comes to the international criminal court, the u. s. secretary state antony blank and said last may that the administration

flatly rejects any equivalence between mazda and israel with the specifics to this case. and also believes that it rush this entire case and really believes that the proper jurisdiction is not b i c c. but in fact, isn't israel is it also believes that a, this is a profoundly wrong headed decision. that's what entity blinking told the us congress at a recent hearing a well rather a few months ago. now it is ironic, we should point out that well the united states is vehemently opposed to the i see . so you having any jurisdiction when it comes to vladimir putin, the russian president had his attack or ukraine, his war on ukraine. then the united states has back support for actions at the i c . c. so there is a real sort of hypocrisy there. when it comes to the argument of jurisdiction and standing and very important to highlight that double standard and,

and he bunker see of course, and we know kimberly that the us had been working in the last few months to back channel. we understand to present these arrest warrants against initially out and go on to be issued. what's, you know? we've heard uh what lindsey graham has called there for sanctions to be, to be issued on the court. what sort of reaction can we expect from the americans following this decision by the isis? well, we're in this very delicate time period between the us election, which is just a court. and now the inauguration where president elect donald trump will be officially taking office in the 3rd week of january. and so it makes it an unusual time. but what i can tell you, it doesn't really matter when it comes to israel, which administration is an office because they are really lock step with the us

congress on their support of israel. and to give you a sense of this, at least the phonic very prominent republicans. she's the 3rd ranking member in the house of representatives. she is donald trump. pick to become the us and bassett, or to it uh, the united they is to replace linda thomas brain field. she has also on record as pushing back against the i. c. c. and also in strong defensive israel. she says that the court equivocate a peaceful nation protecting it's right to exist with radical care groups. the commit genocide. so it doesn't matter the, the, the feeling about the i c, c and it's actions toward israel are the same. whether it's the bible administration or whether it's the incoming trumpet administration and very quickly for our viewers. we're wondering what.