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hello welcome to the program. and the next me, this week, new more powerful weapons are being used by russia and ukraine as york's was complex, as well as well to enters what pollings prime minister on the task called a new face. it's of all us present to elect donald trump says he will end in one day. ukraine has fired american in front, co partition decides on the russian territory for the 1st time after joe biden gave the go ahead weeks before he leaves office. russia then hit the ukrainian city of the in the pro, with what it called, a new hypersonic missile, the russian, it could potentially hit target anyway in your, on the eastern united states, nato and ukraine will hold emergency talks on tuesday. so what happens next? cooled the find to intensify or might, trump really managed and the will, will discuss a little bit more with august shortly. but 1st, this report from laura come russia's use of how to sonic missiles and ukraine on

thursday has alarmed the west with some political lead of saying it brings close to the threat of global conflict. hooton's prime minister donald, to us with cooling rushes, barring over a rush, thick missile at the city of any pro, it dislikes to face the war in ukraine. volcano left scold you for none of us knows the end of this conflict. we only know that it is county taking on very dramatic time mentions rushed as president vladimir putin describe the bombing of the test saying it was in response to ukraine following us on partition made weapons into russia above the store. but if you are used with a, i will add there are no means of counteracting such a miss out. any means of intercepting it in the world today. they don't exist. and i'll emphasize once again, we'll continue testing later system. i don't want to miss all could carry a new k will had some of this down plates. that risk is not to be overly fear. russia has a very limited number of these. it's very experimental at this time. they are very

expensive to make income, has no desire for the nuclear weapon on one of these missiles and watch it ukrainian president, florida, me is zalinski, has not changed his place since the start of the war. again, lobbying west and allies to send more funds to miss sauls those thoughts, but you're not. that is why the wells missed on serious and response to make putting really afraid of expendable. and so the real consequences get so he's actually the european union. parliament president is backing ukraine's use of longer range missiles in his urging germany to deliver more. something chancellor of schultz, a sofa resisted person in the us recently agree to allow you claim to fly a medium range missiles they've supplied into russian territory previously only for use and ukraine. they would fight at targets and russia for the 1st time last week . this is all to the us, the cues, russia of a major escalation by bringing soldiers from north korea to fight to clean in

forces. there were some 10000 uh or so north korean soldiers in the course region as well. us president joe biden has promised to provide most security assistance to ukraine. president elect donald trump says he will work directly with pushing ansolaski to end the war when he entered the white house. he has an outlined house, but his present elect j. d funds said it could include russia, keeping the territory, it would take him what's next to the conflict is unclear, but the alternatives a stock move will follow the whitening escalation or a push back to the negotiating table on the inside story out to 0. the, let's begin a guess in odessa and ukraine is michael boss, a q

a global affairs analyst from moscow where joined by people fellow gonna, how a russian defense and military analyst. and in berlin steven long ago, the chief diplomatic correspondent in europe with the new york times. welcome back, everyone possible i'd like to begin with you. first of all, russia hits a targets in ukraine with this are actually miss aisle. what are we supposed to read into the use of this new miss all by russia? the lower your touch in your target row, you bump, need such a long range, the messiah. what all this was the actually really the best and the message to the west. of the general sir j. k r, who's the commander of the russian strategic messiah for, says the business of compare any target anywhere in europe. naturally dismiss. i wasn't as a president lieutenant, that these my size will be part of a strategic rocket force. not belonging to the army, is that the co,

myself belong to the army. like to be is con, there's are in the russian army in america, had attacked in mass, and now you were massage to so this is a 70 strategic master digit, but certainly strategic weapon and that brian marrow europe and the top as it does page and gives you great. so and this is a message, your boss is a political message, primarily the pressure now has these messiahs so similar to those that triggered the so called euro messiah crisis of the seventy's and eighty's. stephen, what do you recognize? is it a political message? well i believe it is, i believe paul volkswagen hours. right. because he almost always is. this was designed to try to intimidates the 9 states in the west. it was designed to

warn syrup, particularly if a trump ministration falls back. a lot of the american aid from ukraine, europe would be press to step up, it said. so i do think it was meant as a warning. it is also as a function of the collapse of the intermediate range missile treaty, which bound these land based missiles. but that's going away. it is a new missile. it's an intermediate range missile, but a very speedy one. and likely a scanner it can take a nuclear warhead as well as a conventional one. so i think the messaging is clear. i don't think it changes the war. it's meant to simply show to the west. that's russia has farther steps up. the school atory ladder should want to climb. the michael uh

stephen says that it was supposed to be intimidates, redid it in 10 to date in ukraine. is that the effect? as we go? i wouldn't say so. i think people here have got used to all kinds of stuff coming from russia, but i think what make this a bit of a difference is it travels really, really fast. so something like 3 kilometers a 2nd, then people and people describe that with the force similar to an asteroid, hitting, i think, in the wider picture. this is part of the usual russian political ballet to rattle people to, you know, cause a bit of in balance and that it, it has done in europe. but, you know, a dollar tons cause said that this is as cool attorney. well, i would say to him, we've been in an escalation phase for a long time. the amount of time it took for the west to give high powered kit or permissions to use most of the deeper inside restaurants. and also,

the biden's administration has of tends to confront the aggressor a straight on the problem is when you allow your aggressor to take more aggressive steps like they did this week, without any consequences, they will continue to do so. and from my point of view, and not of many others, this is the 1st time and more than modern where or for that that's happened. that's landed us in that story situation here in your brain where we are right now. so for the benefits of our audience likes explain why this ms saw is significant. so the pentagon and the kremlin say that they are rushing it is an intermediate range miss saw. now these weapons were covered by the intermediate range and nuclear forces treaty. donald trump pulled us out of it in 2019 when he was president. present putting refer to about font in a televised dress on thursday. now this treaty is distinct from the new stock treaty that covers the use of ballistic nuclear weapons. russia suspended his participation last year,

but the us says it's still bound by its obligations. pablo, how many of these arresting missiles all the, how expensive all day, and how, how, how practical all, they'll be cost effective and not brutal calculation of cost versus the damage caused? it will be tested. i don't think that there will be master, will use the grade because a lot of them are, for as it doesn't make much move a tree service to do so. they are say that they're beginning production. it's one mo, bile system, a solid fuel. uh that does take that one back, the rest of the the hardware has a lot. 7 mounts of them, but to produce in the seventy's, there were hundreds of a similar pioneer. marseilles produced the different parts of the soviet union. of course, of today's rush is not the soviet union. so production month i will be not as massa,

but it's going to be a force. i mean, is it a directly specifically to what most to be for europe? so if there's a conflict in your rush, it does not mean to fall back on strategic at the front and then the size of the air has a special glass of it. that's what's most likely like last time l. b, america, miss of union, you're also assume, or most likely class, which itself could be a very serious matter. it's because these, the time of arrival of such massages, it's much smaller than the inter continental. steven is a significant the, the u. s. bonds and beans and median nuclear forces treaty, when trump was president's does not, does not matter to prove to now about why we seen this thing use now. well, the reason b, u. s. a later and banded it was because the restaurant had ignored it for many

years and so it has become useless of them. it was inhibiting the western armory but not the russian armor. it, that's why it fell apart. and now we're seeing the consequences because as possible, reminds us and i covered them to there were a big rocket debates in the eighty's over medium range, missiles, the so called pershing twos, and that's as twenties which threatened europe caused huge demonstrations, piece demonstrations. and in the end were banned by the intermediate range of trinity that you just described. so i do think it's very important. and i do think it is a very important psychological tool. russia house and its arsenal to threaten europe. in addition to the missiles that already has slightly a scanner which can reach berlin and frankly not very and you know,

maybe 10 minutes. this is kind of missile would probably reach it in 2 minutes. but if it is a threats and it is meant to produce a political reaction, well, so stevens, as well as being a threat and a psychological threat, does it bring the risk of direct confrontation between the western russia any, any closer? does it make it close? i don't think it does. to be honest. the mr. put in just declared that russians nuclear dr. and had, had changed. meaning that the for us are felt under threats by get this right from the 3rd countries arm is being used against it. and whether it was big news by that 3rd country, or another country like, like ukraine, then russia would feel justified in responding with nuclear weapons if it were that serious. but again, this makes us very nervous,

but i see no appetite on either side for a direct confrontation between nato and russia level a nuclear profession. so michael, steven, that's saying he doesn't say the opposite side for a logic confrontation. but the, the language has been more express, expose it from russia, from about to me. a person has that he said rush was entitled to strike and military facilities of countries, but allow the weapons to be used against our facilities. but i agree with our 2 other powers. so i, i think that a lot of this is just bluster coming from mr. puts in as much for domestic consumption. again, painting, russia as the victim. and all of this, as well as good, as i said earlier about unraveling the west. but you know, people have to be reminded that it was mr. brewton who had to invite these

thousands of north korean troops because they're basically operating on me grinder mode on the front with ukraine. an incredible $1500.00 or so does date something like that and then that areas. and um, you know, you also have to wonder an exchange for this assistance that he has had to get from not only the north korea, but also run into a certain extent trying to what's being offered and return this week. for example, we learned that russia has been quietly sending millions of barrels of oil to turn north korea. one wonder is what else they're sending to perhaps even nuclear technology solves a lot of different kind of balls in the air here. but i think that space or mr buttons was a reminder that there's not many of the red lines that they see, but they are limited by the impact this war has caused on their forces and on the morale of their people to isaac. how well is it just as michael suggests,

bluster or should we be taking these threats seriously? a lindsey, this is for the brand, literally a political weapons this new dish. okay. it's not the weapon that will be the road they're using. it was used once and ukraine will do more kinds of subsets, but this is more tests than actually changing any too much of that. but i go to you and that's the goal. and that's an important one. i believe that this is a message. oh, so do the united states to be a new administration coming in in january during just a direction and election president trump was speaking a lot about the nuclear war and in world war 3. and right now, what's your next sunday, jim? additional arguments do use the threats of a possible world war 3, developing over the fighting in your brain,

so that from maybe could impose or help impose a peaceful solution to your credit. but it's more to rush just by stephen. do you think protein has got the moment in the wall he's making on the ground some territorial gains he's taken tested back in cuz he's taken of a positive east and ukraine trumps on his way back your ups time or of the war. he's gone. north korean troops were, were told he's, he's on the, from the full i think he is on the phone but, but just the bed. i mean its not a huge rush. it is winning the war, but it's not a rap. and when i mean the only real, when would be if the front in the ukraine suddenly collapsed, which i don't see it happening. and one of the things button also did, which we haven't mentioned is c, k approved ascending team training, a lot of and by personnel landlines, which presumably would help you train,

defend its territory further against russian dances. so the russians are advancing. people are nervous about the, the hope is at least my whole personal hopes is that we get to some sort of sustainable ceasefire line that would allow real negotiations. but to me it would require 1st that mr. pruitt and believe he's gained as much as he's going to gain in, you know, crane. and so it's time to stop and talk. i'm not sure he's at that point. well, the problem is, the boots in thinking, he's close to the point where he's got to where he wants to be before you have to bob, sit down and talk a the husband's saying all the time that they're ready to talk. i would believe that is the case, but of course the russian position on box pressure ones is not really very

acceptable at all for the premiums and the vice versa also, i mean, right that present. uh huh. any kind of a solution of trying to find the magical formula. it wouldn't be all squared squared based on kind of freezing the front one into us each for our wine right? in pre or the gosh me or bunch row on the walk right now, publicly. both the dams key and put you in agree that they don't want other freaks of tried to find such a formula will not be easy though there isn't momentum right down international way to try and then this conflict because there's no one is seems capable of evening amount price victory on the words or the day and stop the doing software was bad, but not to do that out. the bottom, that formula that's will be not digital a michael watson is the landscape fair, isn't it?

that he might be forced to accept something he doesn't want to from, from your is tiring of the war. he's worried about that. it's at the moment, it's not going his way. ah, no, it isn't. and by the way, in response to that task vessel being fired, the crate inside, reportedly put out the request for even something more powerful than the patriot defense, this whole system. and that comes with a time when you're right. the west is tiring. um, i don't think it'll be easy for missed as a landscape to go to the negotiating table and say we want everything back. 1991 lines that we want to all russian troops out and we want to go ahead with our bid for natal. this is exactly what the crumbling to mind doing and what's been called by vice president electricity bass. and i will tell you this is that i think mr. zalesky and western allies really have to do a better job of telling ordinary folks their voters, their electorate,

of what's happening in the bigger picture. and what i'm talking about is just a few blocks away from me. the desk support where there was 0 activity. i walked by there today, and yesterday, this is a part that fades the world that sends weight to bar codes all over the world, including to countries on the brake of starvation. when you add to that, what russia is reportedly doing the red sea providing, targeting information to the reigning bat, cooking rebels, to disrupt shipping traffic there? that's a big deal. and i think it fits into this picture of what russia is doing. it's hybrid war, reportedly cutting submarine cables disrupting elections boys in the apartments on foreign soil. that story needs to be put forward a lot more forceful a to get people on board on why ukraine needs to be at it. why mr. person to put the needed to be pushed back. so problem, michael, the size, you know, the boots into succeeded in frightening, of the shipping around a desk. might that be a step up in the threats?

we have this article from ca, correct, and all of an influential security hol, can rusher. he said that russia risk ripping defeat from the jaws of victory, and it's early and dangerous to relax. the fight is only beginning. he says, a well, mr. says must have been waiting for an showing wash and decision make, but he goes making yes rather belligerence statements. that's true. um, now are you trading in the great in the sports or still happened? they did not bring me before this so, but they're going through my or another for some, but then you saw the great as getting out. it's not really that bad, but yes, i would agree fully. but yes, this is not the right now. if there is a momentum towards finding some kind of ceasefire agreement as i'm kind of frame 3 and situation a, but that's not too very far away. it's hard to imagine how that will happen. and

right now, both sides as an, even if you're going to see fire both sides or trying to achieve something in the last moment. because if you take some kind of still with this as a fire, you go that bill for some kind of number of years as old as a 5 is not blunted by doubt, it's going to venture flight. that's a sure guess. you, are we going into this, these fire, not disregard. or i will steven code say that he'd be in a strong opposition would need if he'd been able to, the, to the west from providing your crime with all the weapons. it's been demanding, but he hasn't been able to do that. has a as well no. um, but i do think with trump coming in there will be an effort on both sides together as much territory as they possibly can and food and also i think has to be worried . i mean, trump, you know, wants to stop the war and he may sacrifice the training in the interest to do that

. but he may also push fruit and to try to accept a deal that fruits and it doesn't like and a fruit and doesn't like it. and says, no, trump may respond, as he often does by, by blaming foot tongue, and by throwing even more arms in, into ukraine. so this is the unpredictability of trump. you know, it's, it's, it's not clear, you know, trump wants to take credit for ending by those wars. both bought the bike and started the grain war. but under his administration, both in the train and in the middle east and from i think would like to do that, but at, at not any cost. and it is important that he not loved the week. so i think prudent has to worry about an offer from trump the food and won't accept

and trump's response to, to that rejection of elizabeth frustration. and must go that, that constant for us from russia haven't states to your, from the us a long time to give you credit in the weapons. it was asking for, but it gave them in the and what was that frustration is that frustration, the crumbling, that perhaps you create and hasn't been abandoned completely. oh, sure, of course russia would want to see the cranium regime isolated the and the fall kind of into the russian lab there's, it's well understood the downside grid there on top and then right now, maybe in the beginning. and then there were some ideas that all of your brain is going to become a kind of a rush of friendly country right now. my, that's understood by the time we to, oh, rushing. it can have positive, it can have a shot. some kind of guarantee is a major membership, but that's more with the thing. what's really important for my story, i believe,

is not which kind of a village and priority is controlled by whom much more important. i would say the factions are weekly perceptions are causing a lot to damage and the damage is growing. so any kind of a deal, we're actually looking forward to some kind of frankly, form of sanctions really. and that's also not easy to do. carbon flow sandwiches. it's harder to, to make some down. a very quickly, michael, what is the lensky? you have to face up to the fact that he's going to have to make territorial concessions if he wants this war to ends next year, that you may very well have to. i think crime is off the table and frankly speaking a lot of your credit is i talk to say parts of the occupied areas i've done, boss are so heavily bombed, constructed. what can you possibly do with that? although the symbolism of course of giving theater away is very bad,

very quickly by 10, there's one more wild card left on it from the russian side. and that could happen in the next hours in the day is the temperature here is now going to are freezing. it's going to stay that way. and the cleaning energy system in a such bad shape right now that it wouldn't take much more for the russians to a level that much further. and that, according to the young could, according to the un, could trigger a humanitarian chrysler sports in turn, could trigger and now another wave of asylum seekers to europe. and that would be a big burden for europe to take. so we have to watch for that as well. and that's something i think they will be very, very tough to do. sorry to say or fascinating points to, to end on. we're out of time. thank you to all guess to michael post acute problem . how can how and steven longer and thank you to, for watching. you can see the problem again. any time by visiting our website, how to 0 adult calm and for further discussion, go to our facebook page,

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