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the factory that the american embassy for the most iconic images of the conflict in vietnam were transmitted to the world. this was the front row seat to the final stages of the war cycle in colorado. for hotels, oil is here. no lights up in the daily cycle of death, destruction and displacement in gaza. palestinians say any hopes of a pause in this way, the attacks of to the 11 and see spot of fading. so kind of assets to revive negotiations, to hope is relas bombardment and goals and make progress. this is inside story, the hello again, knowing james phase, it's been a tense week and them at least since upfront you all see spa was put in place 11 in the us president's announcement, soon after 8 that he'd be turning his attention to the cause of boasted hopes of
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a truce and the strip behind the scenes f. it's a report and the on the way to get back to the table to try and stop these ready filings and facilitate the release of captives. but on the ground is really bump bobbins up in unrelenting and the un says the delivery of food and 8 into gaza. is that an all time low will of all of the rel washington's plans. and what is like to happen once donald trump takes over in less than 2 months time. we'll delve deeper into these issues shortly. but 1st, this report from a touchy a pulling in the park, elliptic you and 60 general antonio terraces was described as roads on slow tongue cause over the past 14 months that's killed. more than 44000 people. for those who survived the compartment face hung. israel has repeatedly restricted humanitarian aid from entering garza and is accused by 8 organizations and view and using
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starvation as a weapon of war agencies, bringing in desperately needed to monitoring release into gaza have also been attacked. the un agency for palestinian refugees has been forced to hold the delivery of aid through the key, cut them up asylum, crossing between israel and the gaza because of safety concerns for it. stuff. the united nations on a daily basis have been calling for the se, facilitate not just of 8 supplies, but also about posts are now on your i has had 250 college skills. hopes for a ceasefire, and garza was slightly raised off to the us president joe biden announced a truce between israel and has the lot in lebanon of the end of last month, just as a lover of these people. is there a future of security and prosperity? so do the people of god that they to deserve and enter the friday and displacement . the people of guys who have been through hell the us has restarted efforts to reach us these foreign cause. the head of the local ration of donald trump as
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president in january. and to asked israel to do more to facilitates the delivery of humanitarian aid throughout because we need to get a cease fire. we need to see the hostages released. we need to implement plans for the day after that would allow or would establish governance, security and reconstruction inside gaza. and that ought to be an urgent priority. not just for the united states, not just for other countries in the region, but for israel as well. the gulf cooperation council has reiterated it school funding mediates end to the war on the casa. and i do a john, and we'll go to the supreme council called for an end to the crimes of killing and collective punishment and gaza. the displacement of the population and the destruction of civilian facilities and infrastructure. the council also called for intervention to protect civilians, stop the war and sponsor serious negotiations to reach sustainable solutions is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu. that's based increasing domestic pressure to reach a deal with from us to secure the release of captives that have been held in
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government for more than a year. as an equal naya horsham m, sheila turned to u. k. minister in my name, in the name of my family and the name of the is truly people because all eyes are on, you know, waiting for you to be a courageous decision. us president elect donald trump is reported to once a deal on a ceasefire written cause. before he takes office in january next year. and has won't, there will be quotes hell to pay in the mid least, if captives held in gaza, not released before his it. no gratian is really prime minister. benjamin netanyahu has repeatedly been accused of starting negotiations until trump moves into the white house. mohammed, haji elders, era inside story. i was just there a corresponding topic, abu assume incentives, this update from darrow, by law, in central goals that describes the plaintive palestinians off the facing more than yeah, the finance. it has been more than a year of relentless,
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bombardments. of course the gaza strip, where the situation is growing more precarious by the de dollars of civilians are increasingly quotes and the grape of this ongoing solar and conflicts and the ground. this has no wind in sight. they are not just overwhelmed by rustling destruction. they are increasing also struck by the high rates of families that is taking place. of course, many areas and district people have gone quite simple. we have been speaking to them to listen to their dreams and hopes. and what we have found out was quite help breaking the book and we want to choose today, not tomorrow, have most eunice, our children are dying. they're dying from the garbage from is released from the remnants of the patient who don't know what to do. they're unable to find something to eat or drink. the vast majority of goss this population have completely been suffering from one of the west and been in humanitarian crisis ever recorded in modern history. they have completely run out of options and means to survive in
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light of the latest you on decision to suspend a deliveries to the gaza strip due to safety concerns. and now what they have only is a glimmer of hope for the success of the current round of negotiations in cairo in order to bring in for their own going. so ring i'm going to on the ground for going as a civilians future is quite uncertain. and even to wait for peace seems to be endless powers up as soon as they are for inside story, very by palestine. well that spring and i'll probably look, guess to discuss all this further in washington dc. we haven't, you had a boost, solemn executive director of the institute for palestine studies and tell them that you've given levy is a column. is that correct? newspaper and it though, ha, i'm a rom and the is a fellow at the middle east council on global affairs. thank you. all of you for joining us here on this edition of inside story. it was a week ago that we had that see spot signed involving his fall off. and israel,
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it's a very shaky seas fall, but it's still holding right now. at the time there was some hope express that maybe they could also be a see spot in gauze. so let me start with huge. you had what, what has been preventing a ceasefire and gaza on thank you for having me. um, the entire world is united encoding for an end to this senseless blood shed. thing goes, uh, president, trump, the arab nations, the spinney infections, and everyone is aligned on the need to stop the blood should and, and rebuild god's done. and i will go that to him. the spinning inside has developed a comprehensive vision for what comes after the war. and after the whole thing, this genocide, this division is rooted in national consensus and it's endorsed by nearly all factions. and it's,
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it's corresponds with the international efforts to, to, to stop the killing. of course, as i mentioned, this vision isn't just for the spinning and it has wide spread up support including from states that have relations with is rose. um, so i so i, so the question then is, why does is it or it keeps saying no to ending to buy it. and i think, you know, this is, this is important because ending the war could potentially expose bethany a hold to accountability at home. and ending the war could have a challenge, the agenda of extremist elements and within yahoo is government that's are pushing for ethnic cleansing, athletics ation. they, they want to set the gaza, the, they're talking about it, it's explicit. and, and, you know, it's clear what's happening, this isn't about this ready security. it's about advancing a dangerous step of the agenda. and i believe this is what's preventing
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a ceasefire from taking place in god's let's get the perspective from giving you an intel of eve was, is israel actually achieving militarily right now? because it's killed, how much is most senior come out and is what is the is right, the minute truth actually achieving nothing, nothing except of mulky being and keeping there is really government in power, which is the main goal right now. i would want to be very clear, james, i know with my deadline, but i know much more what we didn't know to. he's love is no going to his daughter from guys that no plans for him on the country. the infrastructure, that is what he's been. think now and gus is like $1000.00 the proves to the assumption that is loaded. he's there to stay and they have the cleansing of the cells and of the northern part of gaza is like 1000 troops through the thing
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that is a really low my said to in the northern part of gus evans said, go these. they might be the kinds of interesting agreement very soon with release of the hostages and some kind of drills. but for goods about is george from does and don't saw the, the worse news we can think about. oh my, let me do you share that view that israel wants to put new settlements, particularly in northern garza, that has been a siege going on that now for more than 50 days, supplies and not getting in the u. n is not getting in well, i think there are differences of opinion within the current government. there are certainly elements within the governments on the far right and that wants to resettle got the. i think there were others, even the one of the defense minister that was dismissed that were more hesitant to,
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to put settlement. but all of them, i think it'd be united by the desire from day one to polarize gaza, destroyed it, and ethnically, cleanse the glasses. true, i think there are, there were limits to that because of egypt closing the border. but there is a determination to do that to the northern part of gaza and to maintain a long term is really military presence in the gaza strip that they can use to control the rest and put pressure on the population to dwindle over time. i think that's been the overriding objective. that's why we haven't seen a ceasefire because these really have a not one of the government does not want to die in, in order to pursue this agenda. and so i think the ceasefire goes, you just negotiations that have happened over the past 14 months. have always been not serious because of because of nothing y'all. when his goals had, i mean what we heard of moments ago from duty and about what he was predicting was matched by someone who certainly not a dog, which is the form is ready,
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defense minister mostly yellow, and they served as nothing yahoos defense minister from 2013 to 2016. he said in recent interviews, the road with being led down his conquests annexation and ethnic cleansing. he says that the cabinet wants it is very comfortable to re establish jewish settlements. how do you think they will react to that way? you are in washington dc because we have the bite and administration who's opposed those sorts of things, but of course they are not going to be much empower for very much longer or the president elect trump has repeatedly announced the people in his circle that they want the war to and now if they are serious about ending the war and ending the blood should and re stabilizing them in the east and promoting these and putting an end to perpetual war. uh, this is the,
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these are sentiments that are expressed by certain elements and in the, in the transition team and trump circle and also by his base. if they are serious about these things, then um and a forever war in the gaza strip will not tell achieve that, it will not tell with re stabilizing the region, it will not tell with any possibility or restoring called wyatt stability, or even creating any past or award or any of you know, the flow matic and, and, and political efforts to achieve what of our vision this new administration has for peace and security in the region. regardless of whether we agree or disagree with the vision. but the point here is that if the continue is with it's with it's
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endeavors in garza to actually click lens, the north to also, you know, just destroy the gaza strip. i mean, it's not just northern gods though. the entire city, most of the city of con eunice is done. we're seeing scenes coming up the front office, really civilian contractors, bulldozing in fire neighborhoods, and roughly what most of the of the city of garza has been destroyed. so what does that mean? that means unless human and terry and crisis and the strategic crisis and a continuation of the blood should violence. um, so if, if, if people in washington are serious about ending the blood should and creating a diplomatic and political press forward or be some stability in the region. they cannot allow in it and you have to go on with his personal agenda. and of course, they cannot allow the israeli government to keep in forcing and promoting this
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crazy set the agenda to uh, not even, not only settle in the gaza strip, but also next. i'm sick and that was bank. i know it was pretty all you know, clear when we we heard lindsey ground talking about how small stretch was putting words in president elect trumps mouth by talking about wanting to sit the strip. so i, so i think, i think there is an opportunity here to em, buckley to, to stop the blood, should, to return the hostages to bring, but a stand in good enough for the city of prisoners and hostages home as well. and to establish a significant political path forward for, for, for a, for the region that cannot be done with this government. and as a continuing with this dangerous edge of the. okay, let me bring gideon back in on that because the pressure points on the mess and
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yahoo government one is us leverage and they haven't used it the by the ministration. because clearly they could cut that all of the funding and all the military. and if they, if they wanted to, but the other one over the last 14 months has been those that were taken by a mass more than a year ago. those that are being held, we think just over 60, may still be alive. now that family is and is right, the public opinion was pushing pressure on this and you all who have those people now being forgotten or needs a clear yes, probably for the notes but for the degree itself, only the full, but it would never remember buying this and, you know, and these government, this is ne, put into the base and from the beginning he could the good. no, they're both days been sorted. their job. many's riley's because best of these 40 to come face and therefore you can all of them and you can continue to know them. even though it is really a horrible tragedy for phone money,
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a paper. but they are the leverage. namely, the restriction is right now a big mystery. because even though the truck when he speaks about ending the war, which he likes to see, does not speak about withdrawing from guys. so we looked at the situation which is already the care ceasefire. the remaining goes, which means it was for because the resistance, we never me, the diesel, it re recording pro does up and make me want to reset 2 guys. so i'm not sure that the drug is a social poke. there is one, the reasons why we should the whole from him bowden from by the general cook, easy could for that he was not to be a bill. so he can or the truck. the question is,
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what the content is read and what measures really think it is the phone or his instructions or devises, or spreads or whatever. and the very few days we show what is the direction. but one thing must be clear. i don't really know piece in casa with these are spaced this, we have to repeat together again because i have the feeling that the someone in the mode kevin administration, is all those loveless around today around day. a don't have trouble. most of them are more of because the most really good citizen is are and some of the mind seeing think that they're basing god so i mean say we made this reading go. so i that's out of the course. okay, i want to drill down a little bit more on tools. we hit some more talks may be taking place that have been some towards those involving israel taking place in colorado. oh my,
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what are you hearing about what is being discussed at this stage as well? as the 2 sets of talks, the one between the united states called the egypt, it's a 3rd key. and israel, i'm terms of the cease fire for golf so that the us administration dividing ministration says, is pushing for again. i don't take those talks seriously because us has been unwilling to exercise any of this leverage over these railings, which is what when push foresees fire, i do take seriously the potential and this is sad that we have to rely on this that maybe nothing. y'all wants to appease a trump when he comes into power and trusts, desire to be, you know, the peacemaker and fulfilled his promises. and maybe that way you get to some sort of and to the type of, you know, in tennis, the bombing of the gaza strip that we've seen. but i don't see that potential for a longer term seatbar. another talk that's going on, we're injection proposals for kind of
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a day after type of scenario among the palestinians. and you had an agreement yesterday between 5 and how mass on the type of unity administration and the committee to run the gaza strip to once israel leaves. but again, we're talking about scenarios in which israel has been unwilling to, uh, you know, participate in the dialogue, in terms of the day after scenario. because it's been clear from the beginning that their day after scenario includes their long term presence in the garden, straight to the destruction of god and the ending out as much as possible of its population. and so when it comes to a ceasefire, negotiation, there's been no material gains or, or any type of success in that because of nothing as gold. and i don't see that changing. there may be some difference when trump comes to power. but again, you know, nothing of us has no writing goal that i don't think aligns with even what trump sees. and i don't think trump has a detailed plan for what actual piece ceasefire and
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a day after means in the gaza strip. and certainly, you know, that the, i was going to try to leverage whatever he was he's willing to do and got into maybe, uh trumps. acceptance of annexation over the west bank. and that comes with a host of all other problems. uh, you know, and the recipe for indefinite costs. and obviously you had it, my understanding is that those talks in colorado have involved both fata and how mass that on the plan is to try and get some sort of technocratic committee to run things and gaza. if you learn more about what, what is being discussed and propose a, do you think it has any chance of these? riley's saying yes to it. in like calmer said, uh those, those plans depend on, is it or is willingness to say yes. uh and how may i ask in cairo are engaged in, i've been engaged in folks 4 months,
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and those stokes lead to an agreement to form a community support committee. a committee that is rooted in national consensus, a committee that, that will play a role in over seeing causes governance, post war to ensure a smooth transition and to pay attention to the needs of the population there. and to create an agenda for rebuilding the gaza strip. the committee will consist of technocrats experts and, and figures who are uh, accepted by uh uh, old kind of study and factions. but at the end of the day, uh, you know, uh for the study and our show in grid. dennis, they are showing a vision for the day after the lack of
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a vision for the day after has been cited as one of the reasons for why ac fire isn't that gene. now there is a clear vision for the day after, for instance, i've developed this communities before to commit the vision, to ensure that it addresses international concern. it has the support of the out of world. and it also involves a but a sending a national consensus ultimately what, what the simians are presenting and, and, but they have agreed on in cairo and in the form of a new egyptian proposal that would also incorporate this vision for the day after this combines elements with president biden's man. uh which uh you know, uh which promised uh, a full is really withdrawal from the gaza strip initially. so with this sort of framework on the table with this new egyptian propose that with this,
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but it's been in compressed vision for the day after. um, uh, you know, it's, it's baffling that this genocide keeps on going. it's, it's, and the person inside, as i said, has, should grittiness. so it is time now for us to meet the pedestrians and the world, the outer world, even its allies and the united states, assuming that that states is interested in ending the war to meet all of these players halfway. okay, we spend so much on this program talking about the diplomacy and the politics of gideon, but i just want it to remember the grim reality of what's going on in gaza right now. do you remember tiring situation? probably as grim it says, been any point of to 14 months of horrors. how does it make you feel as an is really who for years and years and years as advocated for peace? when way, before, when you, when you mentioned the of james side was where i wanted to mention the images,
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that's photo us. why don't we talk about all kinds of strategic plans. the whole of the images that you just wrote, gus, that it showed which by the way of not being shown is what it or and why we discussed all kinds of ideas every day doesn't. so people didn't get us out. are getting fields for nothing. also think about, you know, send people both of them i should and women. and what should i say, do i solenoid, though, over a year, and i must tell you all that never in my life or in my career. i felt so much, i hey, physically painful, seen those scenes knowing the, my friends, the sounds of my friends and the friends of my sons. co, me think those are those products. oh, my final reflection from you on the situation on the ground. and based on the
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reports from people that have gone to the god strength and are saying that this is worse than anything they experienced in their professional careers. and based on the testimonies, the imagery that we've seen come out of god that every single day for the past 14 months is worse than my worst nightmare. what could have happened? you know, the, the, the bottomless pit of suffering that the people who are going through is beyond believes. and it's shocking to anybody with a conscious that nobody in the world has stepped in whatsoever to defend the palestinians who are totally vulnerable to this genocide of campaign. and that's an absolute strategy tragedy in the 21st century for that to be happening. and for no one's really care of those simians at this point, cause a binding by the world. lots of thoughts to end of discussion on thank you to august today. you had, i believe the solemn gideon levy and rahman out is there
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