tv The Bottom Line Al Jazeera December 8, 2024 9:30am-10:01am AST
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is family is part of what the syrian leader repeatedly dismissed his opponents calling them. terrorists, why bottle? i'm not sure. don't fit in what you are facing is not it, but it's a good problem. it's a conspiracy until it is in the political reform process continues to move forwards . yup. terrorism is not going down. as the war dragged on, it was the backing of allies, russia, and date on which provided political and military support that allowed a said to recapture territory and hold onto power. shows that the whole for them, what is government, was unable to regain legitimacy in the eyes of much of the international community in the shadow of war, he held the elections in government control territories that were dismissed by many as on democratic and dislike, never winning the war he survived, but with a narrow support base and with only partial control of the country. the syrian leader was always uncompromising and defiant and ignored
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a you and lead political process to bring about a democratic transition. as one scene, as a reformist, i said, stands accused of using chemical weapons against his own people. his government was responsible for killing and imprisoning thousands, displacing millions and for starving, those who lived in besieged area is controlled by the rebels for city is you wouldn't always be remember as the president to exhibit it's very low leadership. he's the one to actually who destroyed his country displayed on people. and she's not on the law is who appeals that entire. i'm not in elections in 2021, said 17 more years in power in 2023. after more than 12 years of conflict as a was welcome back into the era bleak by the same error states that once john tim,
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but the situation on the ground remain the same. syrians who were hoping for a new beginning were still living in economic collapse and humanitarian crisis. and in late 2024, the long stagnant war came a ring back with the rapid advance of all physician fighters quickly took control of several major cities at a time when, as its allies were busy with their own conflicts elsewhere, but showed a said leave the country in ruins and millions of syrians wondering what's next for this ancient nation. well, let's get more from tahita savvy has a right to and specialist entering in the fans. he joins us live now from the ringing and capital to ron. it's all he good to have you with us. so one of the wrong key regional lies is no more present aside and his regime a full. and how many ron be viewing the unfolding events in syria?
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do you think so you, can you hear us a great, can you hear us until he saw it in the wrong? can you hear us? okay. all right. well we, i was having some problems with the heat. i saw the, the in iran, if we can, we'll try and come back to him a little bit later in the program to get the view from tara, and on the events unfolding in syria. well, there have been scenes of separation in areas under the control of the opposition to fight, as people have been gathering in central homes and slash posters of president bush, all a sudden climbed on to a statue of his father hafez assad area was the site of to the tourist mexicans at the beginning of the serial civil city fell to the opposition. the leader of a high, a tough for you. i'll some group that's a bu mohammed gilani called for a peaceful transition. one of your brothers, we are living in the final moments of the liberation of homes by the will of god.
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this is a historic event that will distinguish between truth and false, that we are heading as we have advised them in the past to show compassion to the people or whoever lays down the weapon is to be ground and safety like and whoever please is not to be perceived back on the ticket. all right, let's get more now from tahita. sorry. who's a rights on specialist and training affairs. it joins us live from the uranium capital chair on. i'm sorry to try to get through to you earlier. there was some technical glitch on the line, so i think it picked up one of the wrong key regional allies is no more president aside and his regime of for and how many wrong be viewing the unfolding events in syria. do you think i so well, actually it's a big development. no small spot of hesitation on that. and we can rest assured that iran is dynamically assessing to actually change or re modify the geo political and the strategy positions pertaining to the latest
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developments on the ground. and vc, the coverage of the news in this pay television and the foreign minister a boss are off to use now. and they'll have to have further talks on this latest developments. and we saw this actively engage diplomatic outs, which in the past few days by the islamic republic on that subject matter. so it seems that there is a serious concern into iran regarding these developments. but if you just take a look at the overall picture, the statements that'd be here from the rain, you know, officials and very, in particular, iranian foreign minister, a boss or i see there are at least 4 points in this regard. first, iran used to talk about a support that it provides to the syrian government. but now there is this uh, change of tone that focuses on the support and the integrity and the sovereignty of the country. that goes as a key aspect of uranium foreign policy agenda and syria. and the 2nd point is that
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iran tries to solve the issue in the collect and they. ready asked by we saw this uh, several rounds the consolidation from the rain inside and i think for the rest of the story for the yeah, days and weeks down the road, there's going to be a continuation of the same subject to have consultations. there is this emphasis in iran into ron, to solve the issue by a consensus and v by v single powers that events a living other innovation is power is getting, getting. so there is a search concern for the rainy and signing. that is, the is really us plan to destabilize syria for dads. i think the best place to prescription from the various i'd is that generated by reason of powers rather than external powers, such a huge less. i'm just the final thought to, i mean, so what calculation bend is around making with a week and proxy has blog no longer active fire in syria?
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how may i assist taking a battery? and does that mean what impact will that have on it? since in some places like serial level, well, obviously it's going to put a certain amount of in fact, on the calculations, it's perfectly when it comes to geostrategic, geo political regional implants. that'd be a run ends for dad. i think you, ron is, as i told you, assessing dynamically it's positions in the region by the still what i see and by that here, based upon these, the statements is the formulation of new dynamics in india. ron, pertaining to the regional policies. of course it's iran is going to look for a new partner's new alliances and acts like. ready a state regional power for the state and disregard for that. we can see this clears size. i've been playing cars between the ron and the other arab countries in the region and other trajectories that they run the strength of practice in order to make sure that it's regional in
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place is going to be a guaranteed 10. 1 important statement relates to this read suspense from that'd be heard from the vein in foreign minister of boss it off to very recently. and he said that with this recent developments in syria and with other developments that we have been observing in the past week, iran is going to is to continue this throughout assistance caused in the region and as part of the state. it's policy that we have heard so far from tara. all right, that's all he the saudi. many thanks for your time on your analysis. thank you very much. the the talking to us. well, let's take a look at these pictures coming to us now of the presidential palace in damascus. we mentioned that area of which the now been vacated by shaw, left side. now opposition fighters are then to the complex men have been filmed with things. so the product has gotten, as well as various photos and rooms. this is once occupied by the lights, houses alongside them later by his son bushel which occurred in the palace is located in the west of the comparative damascus open. it's the city now taken over
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by fighters and say they troubled the aside. really awesome. let's go by phone now to damascus. we have control to residents. again, i'm in the, you can tell us what's been witnessing on the ground and my just focus to again, what you are seeing and hearing in at around the capital overnight, particularly last or 10 hours or so. hello everyone. so the sure things are still going on, they are what's now the findings of now it's shooting for supervision. everyone on the streets in i know in an online square, they are all singing and dancing and so ratings. we are both happy and scotia for that. we don't know what's coming next. the shooting never stopped, but we are happy that this is a celebration not fighting. there is no more fun thing between levels of b. c. and on and or, as i said, what's left of the serial on
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a yeah, a mazda, no, no. what, what do you, what are you seeing and hearing in damascus now, then we are, we are hearing bullets shooting from the show can never stop. we are moving along the look and see them freedom, freedom. everyone is happy. everyone is crying out. everyone as we are old philip gaping or freedom and no one is doing one is afraid. just celebrating and bring the painful going about as long as they say, once i'm done with a 5th period here in history, i know my we know that the serial prime minister went on state tv. oh yeah. well, what was he saying when he came on, ann, who was in control of the state to the building now then now the boys
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are in control of the building, but actually in syria, we don't pay attention to brian minutes or other ministers because they are just like phones 1st. i'm telling you, no one is watching tv on sir national tv, like everyone is watching for life movie watching on the streets. and we are all singing and dancing and celebrating. no one's ever watched what's happening on the national tv because we never believed it. we never believed it. so foreign minister says the page is ready to give it to give the to for peaceful location of power. but oh, well, let me, let me jump in and ask you, i mean, what does this personally mean to you and what's the feeling amongst your family and colleagues about your hopes and fears for the future?
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okay, now i'm literally, i'm joking. hundreds, my friends of cities and all the phoenix, all religions, we are all hoping for the new llc series. we are all whole thing done because you to because this is salvation. plus no one is a freight elevator. some people in the coast, we're afraid because they were afraid, it will be, it will, it won't be religious for, but now they dropped aside that's reached from north africa and thought those they are sharing the socialization. everyone and hoping for the new syria civil celia here without feeling serial without associated with the intelligence. we are all hoping to build on our country together without any
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situation based on religion, all with no fees or without all fee to work for our fleet to build our country. no one will kill us. no one took us to prison. everyone is have a good industry. so we are all living is the seller that we felt for, for 14 years. now, when our celebration, okay, how many of we have to leave it there? many times sharing your thoughts with us throughout the morning from the capital, damascus. i see what you've been some for your country. how many, thanks for your time. now, sir, we are in a position to fight as everybody's present as since capturing the capital. these on the latest images from damascus opposition to find, to say, they freed all prisoners who were unjustly detained, done to the root of president bush aside on friday of the you and released the report documenting systematic torture and abuse. acosta over a 100 government detention citizens with serious political and territory,
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a landscape has been transformed in the space of just over a week by the leader of hyatt tougher you. i'll show them bloom mohammed gilani and his fighters interest. there was barbara and go for looks at his haines and what it could mean for the future of serious he's unmatched. as the man leading the charge of fights as in syria. but nicholas known about of mohammed alto lani is no stranger to the position. some of the commendable, he's the leader of hyatt, terry. it shows the, came from in his in 2016 when he announced the reprint in his group. i'm a jump out on the stress and it spits from al qaeda the other, his goal to create what he said was an add to a shame front in syria, a phone in damascus in 1982. i'm at a loss track. gilani took a suit and then one he says, references family history of expulsion from the now they pied girl and heights
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after the creation of israel and 2003 up to the us. inflation of the rock. giovanni left syria joining alcala in iraq, which left to her subsequent interest, and in 2011, to return to syria, as the fond of on this row. to take part in the revolution against president bush, allison. and most recently, it's been trying to present a more moderate view of the revolution to take back syria from decades of assets. brit for rule the a below that evolution that he's began entering the city of how much to send it ties up, the wound that has to be left in city of for 40 years. i as good that it might be that it to be a conk listed in which there is no event, but somebody that got caught in the southern offensive by all positions fighters in syria, quote, much of the world by surprise. and giovanni is now trying to send the message to allies of the syrian government that this time,
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things are different. the good news in the same way it all can probably minister him how much he asked with any distance his country laid keep from the water between it on and that agent. we urge him to distance it. ok from entering the new furnace. so what's happening in syria fuel to and how to get the wisdom off because now under the control of a position 5 tests and talk to more than a decade of conflict. the well to be look into upper mohammed l giovanni to see what type of transition it brings to syria. barbara and oh, to 0. alright, let's meet 2 ounces. 0 is new ro, daisy jones has live from job a. that's a border crossing between jordan and syria. no. before we get into the whole syria side of things, just just so it's exactly where you on what's been happening at the crossing point there between jordan and syria, as well as in this border crossing, which is basically the main crossing for passengers and for goods. the jordanian
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authorities 2 days ago, shut down the borders, they were concerned that there would be spillover from the developments which were happening too fast for them to assess a minute to minutes. so they shut down the borders only allowing jordanian nationals boxed into the country. and over yesterday we were meeting syrians who were stuck here and they were basically a victim of call the victims of consequence. they had no idea they couldn't have predicted to be caught off guard like that. and they just wanted to go home and the jordanian authorities just didn't know what to do and today, very big, very, very different picture. yesterday the syrians were afraid to express to us their emotions. they were, you know, on the fence. they didn't really want to get into the detail of what was happening today. 7 all smiles really jubilant, and as they were heading back into syria,
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the door, daniel authorities allow in syria, nationals and syrian cars back into the country. now that they know that the regime has fallen so a very, very different story. in the meantime, about 20 minutes away from here, there are 700000 syrian refugees. they'll be wanting to make the same trip as soon as possible. yeah, i know, you know, we've been told that you were learning about this so many been sincerely, it happened literally within days and certainly the last 12 hours. i mean it's been hard to even draw a breath. took us through the significance of what's been happening across the board of, in syria and the impact regionally for our countries looking in and also on the radium regional influence. this is a moment of history that we you know, one can safely say will change many, many things, if not everything in this region. and as you said, you ron considered syria a very important ally, not because it had a lot,
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not just because it had a lot of influence over the reason. but because syria, a geographically was a very important halfway for the you know, supports that iran expanded to his bottle and 11 on the convoys of aid and assistance and weapons. an ottoman that went from here on, through iraq, through syria to 11 on this is no longer going to be the case. and so has been law, who has taken a beating in the war with, with, as well as now isolated is now left almost on its own. with this geographic disconnect, you have also iraq, iraq is a serious neighbor. it stayed out of what was happening for the most part as far as the government was concerned, at the very least. then what we will have to watch and see now is how things will develop. how will the see the, the, the iraq, the government deal with this change?
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and what would it mean for iraq? he iranian relations, the palestinian factions that allied themselves with the regime. some of them fighting along the rank and file with the syrian resume will also have to answer for that alignment and the syria, the palestinian resistance groups like how my son is from actually i had the also last and the ally even though at the sides of the same really only gave them rhetorical support, but they will still need as part of this grouping. no other or other major players . you have israel and you have russia also in syria wanting to see how things develop. yeah, no, i was gonna just jump in there and say, i mean obviously, you know, you made a very important point. the jordan host hundreds of thousands of syrian refugees. what's likely to happen to them now that the regime across the border has phone and i want difficulties and challenges today face going home
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well, it's a bit early to say we have not heard yet from the jordanian government, but one would expect that the, the refugees will look to have their return facilitative, these are hundreds of thousands of people who have been here for years. they live in a refugee camp. their life has been miserable to say the least and they are yearning to go back those here in jordan, those in 11 on there are millions into key and there are others also around the world. so one would expect to that in the coming hours as the jordanian authority is, begins to figure out who to talk to on the other side. because remember, there was nobody on the other side of this border just 24 hours ago. the syrian resumed just disintegrated. in that, and there was nobody just stamp anybody's passport, so they'll be up to authorities in these host countries along with the us to try and figure out with the opposition forces. who now rule over syria,
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how to facilitate the return course. many questions will be facing those refugees will they say. 1 find the homes they were dispossessed from. are there other syrians now living there? because the see the outside, the regime. you re patry it, it or move people around and try to change and play with the demography of certain cities and towns in syria. and those will be questions these refugees need answered . and so that the coming day is we'll, we'll have a lot more answers that we are looking for. no, just the final points you before you go. i mean, you've touched briefly on is relevant. how will as well be doing events unfolding in syria, and they've been counting out several military campaigns against hamas. and also it has blood and lab non and in syria and also hitting uranium targets in syria. well, so won't calculations, israel making that with all these regional changes is there is watching this very closely. it occupies syrian territory, of course it has the trenches between the occupied syria and go on,
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and the rest of the syrian goal on some ministers are calling for the occupation of the that entire area of syrian territory. they're watching very closely what happens is some are talking about the need to bomb certain strategic questions that the subdivision had in order for them not to fall in the hands of the armed groups that are whose agenda is still kind of not known as far as israel is concerned, but in terms of what impacts that will have on his bottle of israel is rejoicing just as an important development for israel. one that certainly serve the interest of a b is really agenda as far as weakening has been his concern. so there are, you know, almost contradictory outcomes to what is happening in syria as far as israel concern. all right, so i'll just, there was no road a line from job a, that's a border crossing between jordan and syria, not as of
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a thank you very much indeed for your insight. what you offer along this is a direct service center for middle east studies at university of oklahoma. he explained what's behind the collapse of the serial number in the syrian army really just melted. there was no money in damascus to pay troops. people were exhausted. there had not been a peace dividend. nobody could rebuild their lives. life looked very grim under this for him going out into the future. there were, we have to remember that there were very heavy sanctions on the machine. america has all of serious, most of the serious oil and gas which it uses to pay the courage in the northeast to police the northeast. and so the regime really had no money. and then, of course, is rails extraordinary attack, which come on his by last pen back iran. and it has really been great at the
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syrian army over the last year with about 3 strikes every week on the syrian army, taking out military factories and iranian iranian militias and iranian officers. so this is a very weekend regime with no allies and, and the army melted away. and that's, that is the, that is the real, you know, stories, extraordinary story here, of very little opposition to a rep over which has rebuilt itself and shown extraordinary ability to adjust and make adjustments and change itself in order to rally the country behind . and i think many of his loyalists are wondering where he's been because he's been a while he was in russia. he came back for a day or 2, but now he seems to have fled the country again and out and made a determination that this is, it's not worth fighting for. and now the question is,
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how peaceful can this transition be? because i think everybody is fearful that they'll be something like the fact that after the united states destroyed the rocky government and we saw all the ministries pillage, and then burn people stole even the copper wiring out of the buildings. and all the fixtures of chairs you'd need and that could happen in damascus. it's happened in many places before. not only, you know, new york city in the seventy's, when the lights went out. and it could happen in places in syria. and i think that the new governments, the new leaders and syria, as yolanda in particular, are fearful that this kind of sloppy transition could take place. and it will be very hard to rebuild the country. but also on the other, within a dean is the chief executive officer of made on the syrian lead civil society organization. and she should have thoughts on the dramatic development. so the last
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12 hours with me everything has significantly changed. it's an overwhelming sense of the joy of, of, of, of youth justice. the syrians are feeling everywhere around the world. adults, syrians have slept any minutes last night, including myself, all of my friends. it is indeed an overdue sense of, of justice for the serious people who have been wrong toward the kids by the 3rd and regime. so today is a day for us to celebrate our tremendous efforts until getting to this very point. but it's also a day to mourn our losses. our loved ones that we've lost throughout the struggle and tomorrow, it's a new beginning tomorrow. we have to get back to work because we have a state to build. absolutely. i know they were talking to some very emotional syrians on the lebanese theory and border, what are these events being to you personally so, so as i've lived here at 10 years ago, exactly 10 years ago after being in so many demonstrations and it is
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definitely the beginning of a change for me, i can finally see myself going back and doing what i've been doing for the past 10 years. but from inside syria, as i said, we do have a state developed today. mike's only the beginning of the, the sad regime is over, but we still need to build the state of citizenship, a state that does not get reassurance for my ne, but actually it states that the grands citizenship rights to everyone. and that's a very hard job to do. that means that for itself, everything gets serious and not the 24 years of the bus. and i will as, as room 13 years of civil war. i mean, i relieved up people particular the millions of syrians who fled all over the world and in terms of trying to get away from the civil war, etc. as i said, it's definitely the beginning off of a brighter future. if we put our efforts into that, it's time for us, siri and to wake us about the future is bright and had
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a fuss it's. it's finally just this, but it's a very long class to actually have accountability in place. but in state institutions and ensure that the states i pull in since then surprise to everyone, you'll the chief executive officer of modern the that's a serial lead civil society organization. how do you see that group fitting in? what would you be doing or your group be doing into the new syria media as an umbrella organization of over to $100.00 and civil society organizations operating and every reason inside syria and, and the desperate including organizations who have operate the end resume held the areas during the time of a sad indeed, it's time now to ensure that states, institutions are functional, we service aside, so you have taken on different drawers to fill in the vacuum after or the withdrawal. one of the sides resumed from certain areas. it's time that we reclaim our tradition of role estimates society now to hold whatever government comes into
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place, accountable to us, to the syrian people, and to ensure that the states represent the values that we did for 14 years ago in 2011. how, how important um, so sound is the issue of governance um and, and i guess the re and position of effective states institutions and give us some examples of what needs to be reinstated to what properly it's. it's fundamentally important, it is the only guarantor for a peaceful transition in this very critical time of our lives. we have a safety issue. as we have health issues, we have the service provision across all sectors. all of this needs tremendous efforts. it's fundamental that we work through the existing states as the solution . we are hopeful that the, the, the process of the transition will actually maintain the state this.
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