tv The Nobel Interview 2024 Al Jazeera December 11, 2024 7:30am-8:01am AST
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ongoing conflicts and gaza and ukraine, 3 members of the group who survived the us, atomic bombings of japan and world war 2, have accepted the prestigious award and also so your vehicle reports it is the combination of decades of what to me, hon. he down to the groceries atomic survivors organization. there was still so much more to do this advisors themselves known in japan as a heap of portia. now in the eighty's and ninety's phones degree to draw attention to the horace of nuclear war. re telling the trauma they experienced as a warning to the more than well, for the last name took with us i conducted near the imagined this through a full 1000 nuclear warheads. this could be launch immediately. this means that the damage that occurred in hiroshima and nagasaki could be multiplied by hundreds, even thousands. and it could happen at any moment. there is
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a situation where it is not surprising. any of you become victims possibly even put the tray to silk over. when the united states dropped atomic bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki, it led to the depths of 210000 people. those who survived remote wine anguish and determination to never let it happen again. a yes, in a world marked by conflict in the middle east in ukraine. the danger they want is ever present. yeah, we saw your reaction in an exclusive interview with al jazeera, straight off to collecting their reward. they emphasize the need for world leaders to choose life of a death, but the 0 more near you, my go shop while russia and ukraine or will, and everyone, including the us and nato, is supporting ukraine. no way sort of they not really fully supporting the boy as a result, the will ends and neither victory nor defeat the cool part of the just continues endlessly. why don't do you crazy and people are living in life where they don't
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know if they will be alive tomorrow. it's the same situation and god with so many people have also lost their lives. and so if this continues, the children will not be able to receive proper education and will have enough food on the field. i wish the world's politicians would stop this unit. and sonya, this is a mission petition. so the global community to stand together in the face of a destructive and powerful force being while the numbers of the he, ba kusha, dwindle, every year. the goal is constant and to new, to your roof and for good, for the preservation of humanity. so when you got your goal, i'll just say around the nobel interview. 2024th is next madison. stay with the a full year of war in gaza. and now it is really troops invading lebanon. are the
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us in israel working to reshape the entire region. now with trump back in the white house, what can america expect? and what can the world expand? the quizzical look at us politics, the bottom line of the all the few remaining people who lived through a nuclear war and they've just been awarded the nobel peace prize. but has the world learned the lessons of the catastrophic events of 1945? and how worried should we be about another nuclear war? of the news read from russia and north korea and unpredictable. donald trump heading back to the white house. god, us don and you create the world is on average weapons that exist to be used the risk of nuclear is at its highest since the cold with a lot of them have said
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a lot of survive, but after survive me, i'm calling the world back from good thing, that's why this is nobel peace prize is gone to need home. he thank you. a grocery rushman, a negative southeast of nuclear weapons and humanities kind of towards it's almost a 2 year since the us dropped 2 atomic bombs on japan. the 1st time the weapons have been used in the survivors will hit by shares, they know dedicated their lives to impressing on the world why nuclear weapons should never be used again. and with the nuclear tab on the move pressure than ever keeping alive the horrors of nuclear war has never been so important. so you see the bulk of my life to see the living house. i don't want anyone else to experience
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such how the interview and i'll do 0 special life or balls low. i'm james base and i'm fully by people right here at all is no city whole just a few hours or is it go? ne han, he don killed the japanese group of atomic bombs. survivors receive the 2024 nobel peace prize over the next hour will be speaking to 2 of the groups co chairs about their experience, the efforts to rid the world of nuclear weapons. and we will also be hearing from some of the world's top experts on nuclear security about the threats we face today
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at a time of heightened global pensions. so how worried are you about the threat of nuclear will affect nuclear weapons. we got a pole up and running on the x and we'd like you to take part in that pole. use the hash tag a j no bell. she gave me to tanika. so she gave me my key, congratulations on winning the nobel peace prize. the basically took all the nice thing with you. how important is this award to you to your work and to your mission? yes that's that's, that's a guy for us. so 75, you got this thing and all about pretty to says that he should have gone before us within so much suffering, doing all that they can in order to eradicate nuclear weapons from this world and job foraging the pod forward. and we have followed in their footsteps,
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all about seniors who have gone before us. so now receiving the nobel peace prize. i'm thinking of all those who bonds for us i want to express. and so i am to them. and this guy is, is for all of the survivors, all he microsoft, most. i mean my key. what was your reaction when you heard the news? your 1st thoughts when you heard that in the hall and he done to you had been awarded the nobel peace prize through his i was on the 20 whole 11th of october, 2024. i was in the he rushing my c t o at the time watching the announcement and i always expecting that the prize, the sierra would go to people working for a piece in gaza. and expecting that i heard the words of the committee chair saying in the home something, but i couldn't really hear very well what he said at 1st. but then hold the resume in front. said it's now on he's on yours. when i heard this, i was just the shop is a surprise. i was just overwhelmed. yeah. on the know so our but this doesn't
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offend, you know, not all of those who have gone before us or the other. somebody minutes have passed away the past that they have followed. this is the result of all of their work. yeah, we saw your reaction and the motion and we did indeed hear you say that you thought that the people working in guys i deserved this nobel peace prize and you compared the situation of children in gaza today to the situation in japan. in 1945, after hiroshima and nagasaki. i'm curious to know what lessons do you think, you know, from hiroshima and nagasaki are relevant to today's conflicts, including the war on guys are right now. as you might know, the sort of card is or the then when we have the stretch of nuclear weapons potentially being used in their weapons, which could be launched at any time around the world even on gaza. something how, what we can do to stop the sense of stuff war as well. the nobel peace prize is something that we have we receiving this. we feel that this is our mission. seeing
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that what we can do to prevent to put the brakes on ensuring that nuclear weapons will never be used again. that's pub pulls that for a moment and remind ourselves of the nobility of what we're talking about. so this is just the code number. look just about the lighting stuff. it was 1945 even for the final year with world war 2. and japan refused to surrender. early on august, the 6th, the us dropped uranium bomb on hiroshima, followed 3 days later by law chup clintonian bomb omega saki man alive i todd. so you've got that, you know, got 90 golf in until you go over the long. it will tell you that if we sample enough done this, the allies achieve that a japan surrendered, but the impact was catastrophic. i'd say the big guy that i put together was,
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you know, they got it rather than not the or she normally it is like those to got me. you still don't, i mean it's what i'm not fixed on this. i oh, so do i also do a lot to know what den book will but, but on said that there is no real shimoda bloss killed and destroyed almost everything within a 2 kilometer radius. by the end of the year, more than a $140000.00 people have died there. and at least $70000.00 in mega saki. what i'm going back to it, that's good to go the way they came up with me. so the mothers side, so now go to night, tell me this week to do a long kickbusch dining. you got them all cut off at a quarter of that that on it boom. done yet, the above. so there was, i get the address of the you a for years what happened was concealed, suffering increased, right simply kenia, and cancer. the survivors were ostracized, for fear of being contagious. many took their own lives in the dining. the dining
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they should have is that, that, that lead local head back should associations to form the home, the down q in 1956 to low be for better support for the survivors. abolition of nuclear weapon is for nick, despite that painful members of the back should have worked tirelessly the decades for not testing addressing international conferences. i'm telling this story to younger generations in japan and around the world. i like best or well yeah, there's not an issue that you know connect up a lot. nice to me. my key. it was the 6th of august 1945, 815 in the morning. and you were just 3 years old when the bomb was dropped on hiroshima. what do you remember from that day? what did you see? i thought you know what to do or die. a father had been working for the railroads at the time in the city of the rushing mom. he rushed him so he was under the
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bottom directly. then we had been living a little way away from the city and it was the next day that we went into the center to try and see what happened to him. so while i was not directly on to the bottom on that day, the next day we went to them were exposed to the radiation, then we couldn't find a father for 3 days then. but we just continue to try and look for him, but couldn't tell anywhere where he was the whole city and it was completely gone. it had been such a beautiful city, but everything was disappeared. there were courses everywhere throughout the ground, throughout the city. it was, as you're walking through, you saw flies maggots. this perfect situation, which we never even imagined something these scenes that you'd never seen before, could never even imagine. and so i remember how fearful that scene was mister tanaka. 3 days later, now the bomb was dropped on like a saki. you would just 4 years old of the time. can i ask you what you remember what you remember of the weeks that followed? as we were playing on just and print them entry and as i keep them they're playing
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this chain. i was trying to look and seek for that for me because i could hear the sound in the sky. and as i looked towards the center of the city of nagasaki, all of a sudden there was intense white light. and just a few seconds later, we heard the sound of the explosion and the blasts of the window. the socket came towards us. you have somebody to show us cannot this session your photograph, please look at this. go to a box. this is the height center close to that area. this is a photograph of 4 films, 2 days before on august, 7th, in nagasaki, by the us military. you can see each of these every homes. however, after the, all of these homes, which had been in this area, we only became like this 90 percent. there was nothing left, not a single house. we can see it's all destroyed if it yeah. can know how to all of
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them. it was just mother and child remains. missing me. i came mr tanaka, let's look at the car and threats today. 7 years ago, it was icon the international campaign to abolish nuclear weapons, collecting the nobel peace prize after the adoption of a global tree to buy nuclear weapons. 94 countries have now signed up, but has it had an impact on global stovepipes? take a look. they are currently estimated to be more than $12000.00 nuclear warheads in the world. the number has been declining as the us and russia dismantle re tied warheads. but between them, they still possess 88 percent of nuclear weapons which they are replacing. and modernizing its last year, the 9 nuclear on stage. spence $91400000000.00 on the arsenals. that's 10800000000 more than the year before. and almost $3000.00 a 2nd. the us accounted for 80 percent of the rise spending
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$51500000000.00. in the last 7 years, russia has gone from 7000 nuclear weapons to 5580 china as dramatically increase it stop by. it is estimated to have 500 weapons from 270 in 70 years. while north korea is thought to have gone from 10 to 15 nuclear warheads, israel has not for many of knowledge, it's nuclear program, but it's estimated to have 90 warheads. while, as you heard that back in 2017, it was the campaign organization. all you can the one the nobel peace prize initial melissa park is the executive director of icons with me now. melissa elizabeth, given that success back then, how much of the foundation of that and foundation for all of your work is the work of these people? well, the testimonies, the courage of the box shop to really that childhood trauma
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again and again to tell those stories again. and again has been absolutely critical to changing the narrative around nuclear weapons. as we actually have a choice here, we can choose to eliminate nuclear weapons which are and existential tracts. so, and there's the ortho, you've all know how r e. he talks about the power or human imagination to redirect out ingenuity from self destruction, to self creation. and this is what we're doing with the tape and w, we're redirecting a ingenuity to re imagine pace and to build a new world, a new future that respects the sun each other without nuclear weapons in it. and this of pocket volume can thank you very much. indeed. i'm joined by raphael grossey, who is the director general of the international atomic energy agency. now, how worried should we be? you're dealing with things like iran,
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where enrichment is going up close to weapons grade. you're dealing with north korea where you don't really know what's going on. i told you, you always should be very worried. yeah, we should think of course, the testimony of the book. we show these fundamentals as a more compelling message. we at the have the move more this, but in the quality necessary, the job to take care of the world as it is um, and we are living in a world of enormous complexity where unfortunately, the attraction of nuclear weapons is not diminishing. it is increasing the numbers of nuclear weapons are increasing at the same time. what we try to do from the i e 8 is to make sure that they're not the countries i get into this list of the ones that were mentioned before. and that we can all fucked at i've been use concrete measures to avoid that from happening. and is diplomacy the
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onset because there was some is really ministers. there was some close to donald trump will assume be the us present to say the officer is the palm iran nuclear program. what would that do? so to lead diplomacy is the onset is the only answer on the basis of technically sound ways to get to results without knowing that there are tensions out there the other way. well, we've seen what may happen on the back, which i hear to remind us of what the consequences of ignoring the various of the use of nuclear weapons would be that you being 10 times i think, to ukraine, since the war started the in ukraine. however, the all you about that and also about as a result of a, the rising rhetoric that we're hearing. some of these threats we're hearing will fails, threats coming from us. but the spot is, but he's part of the same, is, is a world which is more and more fragmented. we have to recognize that this is the case. and of course me,
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this presentation comes tension and having nuclear weapons around make them. i'm used to a possible use to mentor and this to boom, i think that was mentioned in the beginning of the show about all of us recognizing that a new kit will cannot be one and must never be for ease of operating. and so we should be reminded of these, but the, the way to avoid these from happening is through concrete actions and on work appeals are important. awareness is important, education is indispensable. at the same time, we have to do our inspection work. we have to work on every front. what do we do in ukraine? is a good example of that, or if i need to a national organization that, that's not just tweets about things. that's something about it in ukraine though, we talk about this operation nuclear power plant that's supposed to be a civilian nuclear pop up, and it's on the front line. it's basically the weapon noise does not, not show us the dangers of civilian nuclear power potentially. well,
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i don't think that correlation is automatic. a nuclear power, nuclear energy like any other used us for like dvd, if manipulated in the midst of a will, can become of course, a problematic issue here. the, the problem is the wall and what we are doing there to prevent a peaceful facility, a facility that used to provide 20 percent of the energy of these country, which is facing a long cold and dark winter. it was a forceful good. what do we have to prevent these displays to be transformed into something that would cause from us more misery to what we are doing now to day to day as we were assisting to this very moving ceremony. i got word that one of the vehicle so the i a e a was attacked this vehicle was bringing inspectors that
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were supposed to be taken care of the safety of the facility that tells you how close we are to these dangers and we are going to of course, not be the 3rd from, from what we need to do to make sure that what you enjoyed never ever happens again, raphael, go see the head of the i a thank you for talking to us. probably. well, you know, in the lead up to the show, we asked audience around the world about the source and how worried they are about a name and then to nuclear war, a nuclear war in the very near future. and we'll have those full results for you in just a moment. but 1st, we've also been talking to people in the countries that are most affected in most at risk today. take a look at what they've had to which is called the bank will never use nuclear weapons. 5000 percent. yeah, there's just in this worries me very much because i have children look if he wants to do is he would have already done this for you at the 2nd. why should we be
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freight? she straightened out us with something new every day. i just don't think putting would do that. well, i mean, he would destroy his own country. why would he do that? because we would surely retaliate all towards the volume people my age don't really pay much attention to topics like this. so i barely thought are the most dangerous along with the welcome. so we have now our results to the poll that we asked in, in the lead up to the special show here right now as know about how worried you are about a, a nuclear war in the very near future. well, we've got the results here posted on x, formerly twitter and 43 percent of you are extremely worried about a nuclear war in the very near future. 32 percent of you. a slightly worried and 25 percent. not worried at all. um, i'm not joined by 2 more nuclear experts who are here in our audience. we're afraid one is director of the weapons of mass destruction program. i'd say free and hands
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. christensen is from the international federation, the director of nuclear information project at the federation of american scientists, i should say. hi. so let me start with you. we've been talking about the weapons that we used in, in hiroshima and nagasaki. when you compare it to what there is out there today, the stockpiles, the programs that are out there today. how would they compare? you know, what would happen if the weapons that we have today that some of these countries possess, which feeds? well, so the weapons to destroy rushman, arkansas get today are actually considered low yield nuclear weapons. we have weapons on missiles, long range, missiles, various cruise missiles. what have you around the world? they typically have yields in the order of several 100 kill tons. the largest weapon that is in the us arsenal is one point to make a ton of one single bomb. so that's like 80 times the russian level. and so it is a great variety of nuclear weapons that are out there. most of them have these high
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yields that we talk about right. wilford, when i mean the, the global treaties, you know, how do we make them work when the decisions about nuclear weapons and, uh, you know, the way they use that decision lies in the hands of just a few leaders. i mean, the us presidents on to be donald trump, can make this decision to launched a nuclear weapon on his own by the push of a button that's quite worrying, isn't it? absolutely. i think it really underlines the inherent risk of nuclear weapons and there is really no right hands for these wrong weapons. as the secretary general bunky move on one side. and there is just the inherent risk of use width width with the weapons of mass destruction. and so this argument is really the only way for it. as long as nuclear weapons exist, the risk of use exist easily,
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not compete. so the united nation is high representative for disarmament affairs, mist walk me through. you are a top you and official of course, but also japanese. so i wanted to know what does the legacy and will the legacy of the backlash. i mean to you both as an expert, but also as a human be, as well they have been a significant source of all is ration of the united nations. many of the practitioners diplomats policymakers, those who work and disarmament area. they have. i think most of them have heard the stories about how really inspires them. they feel that this is an issue. this is a challenge that is, was pursuing and, and resolving throughout their career. who is the young lady joining us this join us? what do you spell your name and what is your question to illinois? my name is mr. middle. and my question was, i was wondering what advice would you give to young activists and peace spillers,
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who is inspired by the organizations commitment in nuclear disarmament? yes, my goodness, and the 1st of all i would say about the future is in the hands of the youth. the future is yours for those who will be continuing to live in the future. it is up to them to look towards the future and to think about what can be done in order to read the world of war and of nuclear weapons. all young people can think about this together and in many different ways. how much of the discussed is thinking about different methods that you can do. for example, there are some people who think about this in a logical way, but not only this you can think about through emotions through music, through film, will have to be in order to bring people in many different interests together to pay attention and think about what can we do to ensure that people can we populate that humanity can survive? what can we do together? and i hope the young people talk about this together. and i think coming up with
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these kind of ideas together is what will be able to ensure that you can create a peaceful world. and also not giving up is the other message i would share. thank you very much, jennifer, but i don't think there's anyone who sat in this wonderful hole today who hasn't been moved by your words and who will never forget your words. it's been a pleasure, almost to speak to you. thank you. thank you so much. why lori? it's and to audience hear it also city, whole for being so engaging and to our express august 6th. first of course with the inside. this has been an algae. is there a special live from also i'm 40 by people. thank you very much for watching and a round of applause, one or the
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for examining the headlines. what they wanted to do. they want us to leave the without health system unflinching the 2. and then there's one side of the group of people who call themselves the research patriot. and on the other side, just go on to races, processes sharing personal stories with a global audience. what is the see life working on a rooftop? that's a single thanks to an abundance of well, tough programming. they're a unique, fascinating creatures. he fan nowhere else on us. on our unique perspective, we don't want ahead to well, but we no longer have any private spaces on the internet. that's a scary well on heard voices a year into this genocide, it still remains large, one section to connect with our community and tap into conversation that you find elsewhere. but humanity. the number of people who want to stop sending weapons has
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gone up and up despite what they hear in the mainstream media in the united states, the stream on out to 0. so once you reach this displacement cap and send the incidence river and i'll state samuel hundreds of thought, it would not only mean breaching safety, but also a re union to are a separated village in the morning and kept firing shots until night came my brother after the scene was hit on his legs, we escaped, but because of his injuries, he couldn't catch up with us. despite those villages being under our self control, local monitors, see at least 50 villages were rated with more than 1200 to kill. those who have been reported missing are those who have relatives who successfully escape. there are entire families who lost each other as they try to get away from their religion into 0, with no one managing to reach safety. people who've made it. here's the most of those left behind are the owner of the young, the elderly,
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and those injured in the rest of attacks. and no way to know if they manage to get to safety elsewhere or even if they're still alive. the israel targets sylvia naval and military sites and hundreds of air strikes. the un secretary general calls for an end to the attacks, the normal about this and this is on the 0 life from go home, also coming up bringing joy back to the streets. fresh optimism and serious capital after the fall will be outside regime the.
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