assisted in is closing. a lot of the rest are really, really big with being this john, it isn't an in depth coverage. i'll just say it was teens on the ground. when you close to the heart of the story you and says saddam is a crisis of staggering the scaling cruelty that demands urgent tension, the comfort to scale tens of thousands of people and displace 12000000. so by just pushing for see spot, what can you realistically achieve and the 4 weeks before donald trump takes office, this is inside still the hello again. 9 james bays, fighting between the sudanese army and the power military rapids support forces is escalating north stuff for the regional capital alpha. she a,

a seen intense battles in the past week and there's no rest spice in other parts of the country. both the army and the permanent group denied deliberately attacking civilians. so what would it take to get the 2 generals to negotiating table and is the us willing to take decisive action against the foreign powers? fueling the conflict will get to these issues in a moment with all panel of guest. but 1st this report from will, some dies out. half a 1000000 people force from their home is by 20 months of conflict in sedan. have sought shelter here. this is sam sam refugee camp in north star for state near the regional capital of alpha sheer. their soldiers and paramilitary fighters are locked in brutal battles for control. the rapids support forces or r s f, has laid siege to the city since may and is holding a line against the army. the violence is killed at least $780.00 civilians attacks that may amount to work crimes. the un says, use alarming situation cannot continue. the rapid support forces must end this

harvest each and the urge will part is to the conflict to stop at techs and civilians and civilian objects. i called on them to comply with their obligations and come maintenance on the international l. foster has seen some of the heaviest fighting and aid workers have been caught in the crossfire. on friday, 3 world food program employees were killed. despite efforts by the u. n. and other humanitarian organizations, medicine and food are in short supply of the mosque. done. there is a lot of hardship and suffering in this place. one of the things people here at eating is on by the way stuff dave off to pressing the oil from p not shells, which is a type of animal feed off of extra oxy. while we take the own bus services by this week, the us announced another $200000000.00 in humanitarian assistance and repeated international

calls for a cease fire of crimes against humanity in an address to the un security council. secretary of state antony blinking, or is what he called for, and sponsors to stop sending drones and missiles to to them outside actors are arming and supporting both parties turning and internal power struggle into a conflict with global dimensions. in short, a failure to act and sudan threatens the peace and security that this council is charged with preserving the us as investigating whether the united arab emirates is supplying american made weapons to the r s f. us special envoy to the middle east and north africa, breton mccook, told the senate that the u. a has made assurances. it isn't arming the or assess and will not do so going forward. the findings of the investigation are due to be released 3 days before president elect. donald trump takes office in january. during his previous term, trump had a more comfortable relationship with the u. a. then biden has had and it will be up

to him to put the reports. recommendations into action. wilson does ard al jazeera for inside story that's discuss all this now with our panel of guests today. joining us from colorado is w . abdul monia and sidney spell the list and commentator in boston, massachusetts, alex deval, the executive director of the will piece foundation. he specializes in peace building in saddam and in london colored cat, the founding director of cum fluids advisory. a think tank formerly based in call to thank you very much for joining us all on today's program colored. if i can start with you, it's rage. this will for only for over 20 months, of the horrendous human toe is still growing. it did, nothing is improving. it's looking really, really grim is, is that your assessment? yes, and it's quite understandable,

given the circumstances and nothing is improving. we haven't seen any real alacrity by that. well, you know, international powers to improve the situation. and so that there been count as meeting counts as mediation for a and count to see meetings of the un security council that will come to note. and that's because while it's so that has been gaining attention over the past 20 months and then publish the circles and immediate houses. that just hasn't been any concrete action. but the international act does it have to commit to. and that's and sends a very clear signal to the bit of drug policies. and so done that actually you've been to, the committee isn't interested in and seriously seeking the resolution. as of what we've had of the preparation of the conference, we've had more fossil fuel pump lines over the past 20 months. and initially was we've had an arms race over the summer, which has seemed most sophisticated and just a larger volume of weaponry coming through. and in all of this, civilians have boned the front of the violence alex, let's have a look at the states over the battlefield. right now we look at

a map here and you can see this vast country is not plainly sliced into 2. there are 2 areas and then there are into 20 tentacles that stretch out across across the map. what's your view of the, of, of who's got the off behind it seems perhaps the sued, named sydney's forces will be making more gains in recent months. certainly i think it's, it's the case that in, on separate of the key bicycle from the said on, on the forces tactic to have the uh, but i didn't think anyone expects a decisive strategic advantage from either side. and if i could add to what sort of it is just said that most the sole. but putting in this for is the very rude and mentoring age old less than of hung up. and just this week, the un accredited to come in review committee has been meeting it's report is due any day now saying, well, we will learn from that is what we will know in our house,

which is that coming that was a identifying to class. some of 5 months ago will of spread will have intensified, unlikely the desktop will be test collating. nothing from the 10s of thousands put into the hundreds of thousands due to hunger and disease. is daria if we've got a situation which perhaps isn't completely stalemate, but it's not moving that much. that is a recipe for disaster, isn't it in terms of the desktop that just means this goes on and all? absolutely. but the fact that there's not much push to find the end to this war or a push to bring both parties to the table. we'll just, you know, extend this more like, you know, further were creeping into the 2 years now coming up in april. and the numbers keep escalating, you know, there's hungering by the most current to there's hunger in several areas of them and the hunger is being the low family. then the food is being used as

a weapon by both sides. and that's something that people don't want to admit, nor i could always, but that's what's happening. and the longer this goes on the worst, the catastrophe, it says that that's unfolding you see them colored with assuming now on the, for one of the worst places in the country knew a report by the office of the high commissioner of human rights, 783 civilians have been killed. well, the 1143 injured knowing you and reports that's probably on the account. how bad is it? and docile. i think it's a massive on the account. i mean, we're hearing reports of, you know, hundreds of thousands of people slipping from duffle from paying for manufacture, excuse me, going into them some cap and some of the other toms as well. i'm sure, could cetera. we're seeing that there are hundreds of thousands, we're leaving from a dispatcher going into the wheeler. another part of the sort of no thoughtful to the south, and the amount of violence we have seen over the past. sort of almost a year. it shows us that actually the numbers across the board are an under

estimation, the number of people suffering from time. and in some, some count are likely to be all set under estimation. that definitely are severe on the accounts for the number of people who are dying. we know that there has been a siege on some of them for the best part of a we know that food stocks, water supplies are being cut off from people. we know that there are be the rates that are happening and some of these kinds. we know that the ours if is providing a pretext for its invasion of exams and by saying that there are on the combatants and then we'll just civilians. okay, let me, let me just talk to our 2nd. samsung is a camp of displaced people. this being that for a very long time. how many people do you think are in that camp? and do you think that that, that campaign type the whole of alpha show, which is this camp is about 15, columbus south of al sasha could sat full. and as a result, what then would be the result of that? well, we're looking at around, over 3000000 people in the great the area who've been moving around from one pocket

to the other, trying to escape the vitamins. and what we're seeing now is that this low assault caused by the siege minutes of the hours of all of the inside grades outside of your area, will likely come to a head around christmas time with ours. if know that the international communities attentions are elsewhere that people are powered down to the, for the christmas holidays. and that is when we expect to see an uptick. invite is particularly in samsung cab. and there been enough warning signs and enough sort of a blaring of toxins by rights groups by observe is, but unfortunately, we haven't seen the required attention. farmington asked me to try and get a head or a pre owned or stop some of these attacks. we know that when the hours of takes over, parts of the full of trustee, crimes often fall that we sorts in, in a janetta we saw as an at the mountain west style for. so this is almost assess and see it's pub plays into the logic of the art stuff that and yet very little engagements of the art. if the human is worried about 700 people dying, it will soon have a lot more of a, a sort of

a number of fatalities on his hands. dalia, i mean those many believe all crimes that are taking place bought the other side to sidney's armed forces. they're also being accused of will try and so give you an example to get it done for on the 10th of december, when apparently they took a carried out and asked strike in cub copy a, which is, which is about a 180 kilometers west about sasha on a market day. so lots of people were there in the center of town and more than a 100 people were killed. we can't just focus on one side. can we? you know, we talked and we shouldn't. however, the skimming of bombings area bombings, code you know, carried out by those these armed forces is it's an atrocity. but the same time what the r a sub has done is, has come be up beyond what anyone can even imagine the violet, the sexual bye. this is reports that are coming out of a to z or for example, and from a, from corner to fun, you know, of pale and, you know, are just

a holistic, same thing. you know, they're, they're not going to, the civically ends to leave their besieging, see, because from leaving from the air is a big control to, to go into other areas. so the violations are committed by both. but if you're going to scale that, then what's the r a sub has committed to is far worse than what the army has been doing. but if you ask any studies, you know, they will always be pointed to the rest. that's as to what they're doing is just it's dental science older in some cases, especially in regards to that for and of july and war crimes, you know, as politically ethically driven it, no massacres like big in didn't know. and more than 15000 people were killed massacred by the r ss. that doesn't mean the south is an innocent bystander, but in comparison to our assess, you know, is on a different level. alex, if we focus on the full on the international community is doing nothing. but

actually there are mechanisms from the un security council on the full not for the rest of saddam that are in place. that is an alms and bulk of it covers the full put in place years ago and renewed and the sanctions mechanism. why are they not using rees in the un security council has been extraordinarily timmons and i couldn't mention a whole raft of all the resolutions mechanisms as revolution $2417.00 on on concepts and come together a belie inches. the un secretary general to act swiftly when a conflict is functioning firm in the us, it's happening and all for today. none of these are being utilized and it's partly due to wait till the, the ship of the united nations is also due to the, the feeble response that we have for can union, which is a shadow of its for myself. and in a couple of months, the african union is going to be electing new leaders up to the commission. and we

have very much that whoever takes over the file, the african union will become energized and committed and will push through. but times all resolutions measure those initiatives that could unblock the on pass of the un security council. because if i for could take so you know, into position. it's underlined k that russia or, or any other member, is going to stand in the way of the require meshes, such as sending human rights monitors. sending peacekeeping forces, sending us, setting up mechanisms to protect civilians or even getting the united nations monetary and agencies present on the ground, which they have not hung up the moment the us up to now has been a really just most i it's colored in terms of the un,

what was actually an asset to get a resolution, the end of november to protect civilians or cool for the protection of the to civilians. the specifically mentioned off on the siege of alpha sha, russia used its veto and many who cover that site. the behind the scenes, russia did that as a response to the, the authorization to use long range missiles by ukraine into russian territory. as a sudanese, what do you think of that sort of trading of different files of different conflicts and the response of russia? i think it's a business let you know russia would try to block something on the protection of civilians and other kinds of things that you know of the security council should be, you know, sort of politics free. but they, you know, the current strategic environment means that unfortunately, sedan like palestine is falling prey to all of these different machinations by international global powers. what i think is also interesting is this not just the,

you know, as, as far as everybody was concerned about who was going to abstain. so the, the long written, resolved and in, you claim pay $1.00 parts of it. another version of events that i believe frankly, is that the acting sydney's minister of foreign affairs on use if got in touch with the russians. an awesome to veto because he felt that he was not properly consulted by the united kingdom as the pen holder. and as the president in november, now, i think this just shows the extent to which the people of sit down are effectively being sacrificed at the altar of many egos. but those of domestic actors like the acting minister of foreign affairs of defacto minister, as well as the sort of international competition between rushing the united states, the rest and the west much more broadly. we have to remember here that when it comes to the issue of protection, you know, we must even get from the sci fi. and one of the things that this resolution did, unfortunately with directv and protection to cease by it was mostly, if you look at the drop about the compliance mechanism for the jet agreement, signed some 18 months ago. specifically, looked at not the protection of it is but

a ceasefire. we have to do invest exactly like a humanitarian aid. also pharmacies by aid and protection of living and should not be reliant on a seas for either franky is not coming any time soon. okay, to find out more about the conflict, it's often worth following the money in is the conflict ranges, this one and people stop a gold rush is on the way. the violence is interrupted operations many minds, but despite production cuts, the precious metals still accounts for 40 percent of saddam's export avenue. even before the conflict began, the rapids support forces control most of the gold sector. now you investigate to say department tree group is using the proceeds from the gold mining to um its fight is a confidential report submitted to the un security council in november found the gold with 860 $1000000.00 that'd be extracted from power military control. mines in the for this year the, how much of a role does gold play in this conflict?

the fact that the smuggling of gold never stops has to be so. so starting the war is, is very telling. it is the main source of finance for the or assess and it's also a mean, it's a good source for their allies. we utilize, you know, the money from the gold smuggling is where is it bad? like you said, follow the money trail and you know, and it's not just, it's not just the way this case is also the case of russia. russia has also benefit from the goals smart read that from to that. and as long as there's no sanctions on those who, i mean this is a goal has never been brought up as an issue that needs to be section that needs to be, you know, investigated, but is the main source of income for the rest of us. it's a, it's the, our stuff is a very rich, very well entrenched, a entity in sit down in regards to the economy. that's how you know, and the gold is one of their main sources. but you know, it's always has to,

it always finds a way to get out of those finds a way for it to be smuggled out. and this is, and nothing has been done about it. and like i said, it's been going on since this since before the more even they're up to it. so it's not something new. and i like, so this is just part sorry, hollywood. go ahead. which i could just, uh, do you know, there was a recent like very long in new york times article that really went into details about this. and what it shows very clearly is that it's not just the rep at school forces that are, you know, getting money from the gold trade through the united arab emirates. it's all of a sudden these on schools. and what we have to remember here is that when you have an actual like the u i e, which has never wanted democracy. and so that is really sees no problem. and, and having financial relationships with the different doctors that are also not in favor of the democratic transition into that. in which case we see him much more complex picture then what is often said about how the different actors and sit down to the r as f and the students,

and he's on fulls of or accessing money internationally. the u. a. e has become a hub, it's become sort of a bank for all the line actors in africa. and the sydney's on pulses is not an exception. what i think we need to look at them is international mechanisms of cub . not just the sort of, you know, the different access that we don't, mike, but lots of that are able to benefit from some of the grey economies and particularly around gold of people's like this going it's what, when you mentioned the, you a showing perhaps this, which we showed at the beginning in our report, which is alexa to i said, that's a, from the white house. and it's about the united arab emirates and the role. and it says, the u a is informed the administration. it will not now be transferring any weapons to the r as f. i will not be doing so going forward. alex, what do you make to this? i mean, is, is this proof that they were doing it all along and do you trust the assurances

from the bite and administration with just a few weeks to go? very confident about this. that yes, it isn't indeed. and isaac assurance, an affirmation that actually the way hasn't been doing this kind of a bit of the set top preparation of items that has been inflaming. but more so i wouldn't take any assurances from the us administration, both the box and administration on the incoming trump administration, which has set and nothing on this topic thus far. all the way i would take those with a very strong pinch of salt. we really don't know what this adds up to, and even if supplies where to stop financial support may make continue inmate the many, many other way of guessing ons to, to the are assess funding due to the other side to assess the done for quite a direct homes transfers from the way goal from anyone else. i think what this

points to is the way that the student needs more has become embedded within the, the geo politics of the financial politics. including the sort of the, the st for economies of the middle east pointing to the fact that i think has been very clear to many of us for several years. the, the, the route to a resolution of sit on runs through the power of capital is enough to be how would it be re on and, and cairo. and it is in the context of, of the, the very tough political bargaining part of the middle east. that will be the prospect off of making progress to resolving the, the crisis incidence. so totally let me ask you about the prospect's with diplomacy . if you look so far, that being very fragmented diplomatic efforts involving the african union,

the regional grouping, i got of a saudi arabia working with the us meetings arranged by egypt, the circle troy to the us, the u. k. know why the un with a personal amboy of the secretary general, but do you see any, any, anything that is going to get diplomacy. busy looking here, you know, i don't have very little hopes of a diplomatic push bringing an end to the source simply because neither side is willing nor once to find the diplomatic, no resolution to this war. i think the only way then there will be some kind of and b as in boy, if one site is victorious, not the side will given, will give up or given to the other. and if that is to happen, then how can these 2 entities end up working together, so to speak for so that and so that's not the case. and like there's already been seeing, they know there's been talk, that's been reports of the government in exile, being for our being proclaimed. and that is just a way for the rest of to seek legitimacy along with this support is within this of the needs political a sphere. so i don't think that the public diplomacy has failed because nothing.

there's never been a serious push from any side or any actor to bring these 2 sides to the table and to find a resolution to this war. so i don't think diplomatically will promote diplomacy, will do anything at all. that's my opinion anyway, but henry, mystic view of what we're hearing a last minute diplomatic push from the united states and coast that was that security council meeting. they all the current president of the un security council, but is this final dying lame don't days? so the administration sit to little, much, much to like, you know, i think it's exactly about, you know, the us has, you know, to give them that use they have what, so i'm trying to example improve the of humanitarian access constraints. they have tried to host high level meetings to bring in the 2 different side, the 2 main belligerent sites to soften the recess. but when you want to have an

impact on a conflict, you need to put the leverage on the table. nobody, chiefly, the in the us wants to put that was on the table. you mentioned the letter by the white house official back in the back are responding to send it to them, holland within that. so that's, it was 3 or 4 paragraphs. an entire paragraph was dedicated to the east rolling gauze at robinson each roll. incidentally, that just shows you where the administration's priorities are more importantly, they don't want congress to rock the boat with the u. a. e u e has, is not just a signature to the abraham a quote, which again was trump sort of main um, foreign policy. um, you know, sort of gamut. it was a chief architects of the abraham because it in many ways it ones that kind of states that the tougher on states as a israel has with washington. and it says, managed to engineer a way in which it will effectively not be held to account. now, other countries will also one that kind of stays as in the region, and all this leads to that very, very, must fall behind. i don't think so. down is anywhere near the top of any kind of

international agenda for the united states, even as people working within the administration recognize what the effect of the over still will be and how much of state collapse is down will affect the region this the hell, the red sea region, the whole of i forget, so we have this a symmetry of different products as agents within the administration. we don't have a clear trajectory of what they want to do and that's what we're not really going to see anything. i don't think trump will have anything more workable alex, very quickly. there is some tool in these final months the, the final months of the by the ministration that they might designate the situation a genocide very quickly would that help. and i think it would say would certainly push the top the international agenda. the international criminal court still has a mandate and the the prosecutor is investigating. i think what do i think, however, chiefly, be a symbolic act, a gesture, really all dispatch assignments. the bikes and ministration has not succeeded in

properly tackling this crisis. it wouldn't be parting shot to say that something truly terrible. it's happening here that we have failed to, to, to redress a totally a reading the situation. but thank you so much for joining us to discuss things on today's inside story. i guess. well, dahlia abdul ammonium alex deval and kalita kat, remember we bring you the inside story here every day of the year, which is on television, on apple and alex's or dot com. what should we discuss next time post your comments and suggestions on facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. on the x r username is at h a inside story for me, james phased the production team here. they'll ha, please stay safe, bye bye for now. the

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