the ceiling, the combination of violent war and the heavy rain creating a respiratory for more suffering for palestinians asking questions. what are the challenges in helping girls that are seeing this sort of means conflict reporting from the actually a lot of the rates are really, really big. we've seen this done and it's an, an in depth coverage. i'll just say it was teens on the ground when you, closer to the heart of the story, a 15 partition pays full for children from casa to receive medical care. in the u. k, it was prompted by the u. k. 's, denial of treatment to a 4 year old palestinian voice, lost both his legs in and is rarely attack. british hospitals have treated children from ukraine. so why not? because this is inside story, the

hello welcome to the program. i'm adrian. instead of getting children have been the majority of victims in israel is war on guns with thousands killed named or injured guns. us health care system has collapsed with its hospitals bombed a medical stuff shot dead. the lack of basic medicine has seen many evil methods used to empty tray limbs with wounds treated with sugar instead of drugs. the u. k has been one of israel storms just allies supplying weapons, used to kill or injure thousands of palestinians. get a full year old boy from garza who lost his legs. most of his family was denied treatment in the u. k. unlike children from ukraine, 50 british and fees are now demanding that the government allow children from casa to receive cash in the u. k. but why was this denied? and what about other western countries will get to a guest in just

a moment. but 1st, this report from san diego, the v is asked met ship that a little boy from gaza. 2 of those, his parents, and then both his legs and his really strikes. his uncle ibrahim remains his early surviving cag. if he asks every day, where is my father? where is my mother? every single day. but we try very hard to make him forget and adjust to the situation he is currently in. estimate was injured in november 2023. what is the early speak? tens of israel school on garza and one of the stuff to be refused just medical treatment in the u. k. instead, he's receiving kat initially, estimates case is something that you k politician say. so the double standards in the international response to,

into children of who pay more than 50 m piece of signed to let to, to the british prime minister judge and came to allow gauze as children to the u. k . to receive life saving medical treatment on time and time again, politicians have quote on the government to do more reduce failure to their collective punishment to civilians and intent to explicitly indicated by the state of meetings because of the continued ministry support for israel. ongoing looking, go see him. yes. in potations folder, the case on the human rights applications and the fate of millions of innocent men, women and children. a new study has found that children who are living through the role in gaza, 96 percent of them feel that death is imminent and nearly ha wanted dawn as a result of the trauma they have gone through the palestinian children live

a brutal reality inside the street one played by constance to and things ok. there's simply nothing left in gaza that might allow the child to be a child. sorry, go out to 0. the inside story, and presently eyeball on is a spokes person for unicef and gaza. she joins us now from amon. good to have you with this rosalia out bad things for children and goes, we got a good idea from science report. the units of says that 17000 of them are currently separated from the families or unaccompanied bought stretch to they face. what about kids who need urgent medical treatment? the situation in gaza is, is really apple collection for children. it's not just to boom and some people in step killed them, but it's also the living conditions or router to elect their, of the lack of access to health care to adequate health care. the lack of proper shelter is winter, has started. so shelters are to make shift tens made of whatever material people

can get their hands on. so they don't projects. so they don't project families, families go hungry, you'll have seen them from an alert that was issued for northern guys that was in the cell. some century to severe hunger is increasing and diseases our residents have been to many shelters where it is chicken fox, hepatitis, a merry old children i speak with have, have diarrhea. so the conditions are really, really bash um and the suffering is not just physical it's, it's also psychological. and what sort of responses they've been from the international community to the medical needs of kids in casa, are missing. so you're asking specifically on the medical needs of child patients and the needs are overwhelming. so right now there are no hardly any functional hospitals and guys are left. there's a few hospitals that are partially functioning, but there are no sides where you can get full flash,

adequate medical treatment doctors telling me they're beyond the spare they. they want to help the patients there. and they simply cons because they don't have the right medicines and the right equipment. in fact, one hospital officials, as most are hospital. i met with an 11 year old boy, you went to kenia and, and, and his mother and the doctor told me that at best what, what the hospital can do is give him more fee when, when it comes in. so some pain olivia issue, which is by far and sufficient, but the comp actually treat him. and this boy had had leukemia for several years. and before the war, he was able to go outside of gaza and he caught treatment in the occupied westbank . but that stopped with the war and he was actually in remission before the war. but since his treatment store had stopped his situation very badly. terrier ages and just a couple of weeks ago,

we learned as this boy has passed away. so children are dying as a direct result of the lack of health care and what, what is needed right now. and ghost as to things and immediate, she's fired at tech. some hospitals have to stop, hospitals are protective, places and hospitals need to be rehabilitated. just those children who are, are most gravely ill and unicef estimates that there is at least 2500 children just like the child that, that i just described will need to get out for medical treatment now. so those need to be medically effectuated. but in parallel, the hospitals and guys needs to be rehabilitated, need to receive supplies so, so they can start treating patients again. personally, many thanks and thanks for being with us on inside story. i thank you for having me the, let's bring it, i guess for today's discussion from london,

which went by dr. victoria rosa plastic search and has been on recent medical mission is to the hospitals in gaza, from trump. so in no way we're joined by doctor mats, gilbert, i talked to specializing an emergency medicine who's worked in palestine a palestinian healthcare in casa for more than 30 years. and from london. jeremy cool, been an independent member of the british parliament. but a former leader of the labor party, a world welcome to you, old jeremy. let's start with you. why have you felt move to write this less of what response of you have to it? well, unless somebody gets tell me the last few minutes where you had no response. so file, what problem just write the left to was waiting on just a pole. actually continued suffering a painful in ga sir, the continued supplies weapons by britain, the usa and many other countries which enables us to take place in sexual cult, was found twice against his ro, once in the r c j. and once on the in social criminal court,

and the determination of britain and the usaa to continually supplies is a upholding message to the rest of the world. because it shows contempt for the processing of international law which they claim to support at the cancer. and it shows that they are more interested in continuing the bottom. but knowing full well that the palestinian people left in gaza essentially have already been told the trends under just being once in the kills. we don't know the total number yet, but you know, it's well over what i look forward to fashion already get from the bomb bomb. and so our message is quite simply is go to stop. as you say, jeremy, that's been the response life. and so far what, why do you think that is, why has the new labor government done know better on this? done the previous conservative one. sadly that obviously, you know, such a tool. they do say they support international human rights law. ready they do say

they support the international court of justice and liam's national criminal court bought exactly the same breast and they say they're going to ignore them on this. okay. well, it's not a pick and choose the rule. it has been made of israel's behavior in gaza is an active genocide against of hosting and people. and so that means that the governments that so of some one to. ready knows that judgment is itself putting in the possibility of legal action against the government for refusing to suspend supplies. and that feeling all around the world is so strong. there is a kind of echo chamber western media by which the, some of the west to europe in the north american governments take. so i'm confident thinking that they are supporting his rilen raffle is going to be a ride. the reality is that all around the world,

the level of support for the palestinian people disappear, that it's ever been under the termination of many of us to stop the supply weapons . and all was to, uh, is right, a little is under warranty that we will carry on doing that. so we're currently eventually under the christmas new year period in a very big demonstration in january. and the longer we also asked for a response and got non up victoria, what kind of injuries to kids need urgent treatment for right now? where are these kids currently being treated? an, an, a border conditions like that you've been the main, the main entrance to the children suffering from a blast. injuries. so when, when a bone goes off, whatever is around you guess weaponized, and then it will hit you a quite a high velocity and it penetrates the skin and the bags underneath your guarantee orlando or your abdomen or your head. so they quite a significant injuries that these children are suffering from the numbers of

injuries and the delay in treatment, and that she gets me your pricing. this means that, that, or after the infected, by the time you use that, i see them. so that sort of the initial injury, and then there's a list of created from the delay of actually being able to treat them. and then on top of that we have programs such as, you know, now i'm interested in the fact that everyone has been displaced. these children living in tents, pool sanitation, in most to show and i still have some nets and it's, it's a disastrous situation for them. as a doctor, how does that make you feel when you, when you see conditions and situations like this to the thing is adult to say this, and this is, you tend to get on with what your, you know, what the job is. but it, it, it is incredible that it is being allowed to happen, that it is still happening and goes a effectively that down to 3 hospitals, the capable of running the suits of trauma and those 3 customers

a. so the subscribes and is ayden to them is the minimum, much, to what extent are children in cause a dying needlessly due to a lack of medical equipment out, is that affecting the medical staff who are at least trying to treat that and what's going to happen to kids, if they, if they don't get this treatment, how many will be left with lifelong disabilities if they don't get this treatment? well, we don't have the exact numbers, but the numbers are extremely high. and we have to remember all the time when we discussed this, that all of this is a 100 percent man. made unavoidable. it's old, made by the occupational forces of israel with the full support of the united states. and unfortunately the support of the u. k. so all of this is affordable and we need to focus on the immediate stop in the bombardment

a ceasefire. and an opening of the feature of golf and ghost has been on the seats for 17 years. these kids who are now being injured have been starved for 17 years. they have been living and a growing up under constant calls done on boardman. and, and the horrors of getting killed as not what happened since the 5th of october 7th, october. so so the, the, the background valuables for a child to manage to start advice and injury is old randy is so uh, so bad because of mountain nutrition because of fear because of lack of proper living conditions. so we don't have the number, but what we know is that 770 by sense of the more than 45000 killed. and the more than a $107000.00 injured are women and children look and golf. so half of the population are children. this is much more to break down in the west that this

is still on the base level after nearly $500.00 days. this should have been stopped long ago on the elephant in the room. if the model made suffering of the civilian population of augusta as the pope said the other day, this is no tour, this is cruelty and i add for the children. it's also say this because the main reason why they are now the stresses by death. this was one aspect is of course the injuries from the bone being that the triangle of this thing goes on now is the combination of starvation, lack of water and the seas. and this is all amendable we have in a medical terms and expressions that avoidable death and large numbers of the children dying. ready being killed in goes on now are avoidable. this, that could have been avoided with appropriate health care system and with an opening of the seats. this should have been stopped long time ago. jeremy listening

to 2 doctors a describing a situation in gaza. how does that make you feel with millions of kids in the west looking forward to send to visiting this week and christmas, a magical time for kids and families and full flow especially where you are in london, 96 percent of kids in garza say they think they're going to die according to all right. a small survey of $500.00 gospel kids. how can that be? what seems to be such callous disregard for the place of god as children, bear in mind that it's western and u. k. weapons that direct the lives human rights it is. um you guy and us weapons rec lives is the u. k. arranging for the transport of equipment through the r f space and accuracy area in cyprus, into the east israel. and the is the bombardment of cause results. additionally, the rule it out for us is undertaken any norm list number of visor,

flights of guns are collected right here to the information. i want to know what information has been useful, is it going to be used to a rein, israel before the international court of justice. and of course, the international criminal court, or is it to enable israel to be more efficient in its um, in his bombing campaign. i feel very, very angry about it. i'm very depressed. i live in a very mixed community in north london. there are people that will face a non, there are people of good to monetary incense, and all of them are collecting whatever they can wherever they come. to provide aid for the children in gaza. but the relayed to realize it could be provided is it stopped, the supply weapons stopped july in the bottom of the site protest, i recognized palestine as a message to the rest of the world. and i really do check my house to the door

because we have on don't many other doctors, mountains, and i go back to a very long way and he's for an incredible hospitality new to all of his life. so i want to say on behalf of a lot of humanitarian people around the world. thank you because i know the abuse you've received for stepping out for the palestinian people. jeremy i'll, i'll come back to you and just above it, i just want to play a little sound bite of, of permit us to start speaking in parliament just a few weeks ago. have a listen to this. well, the prime minister shared his definition of genocide with his house. and when he started look further action, he's prepared to take to say lots of desperate installing men, women and children. given that we now hold the president's the of the united nations security council. it would be wise to start a question like, got a reference to what happened in october of last year. i'm well aware of the definition of genocide, enough is why i've never described this as referred to with as genocide. i took

a stop that says that he knows what a genocide looks like and, but this isn't one. what do you make a bet? jeremy jeremy. this you said there's been no response to your letter. this is a political decision. do you think? and indeed it is. a political decision, he knows full well what the definition of genocide is being of his full well the, the i, c, c, i'm the i, c. j. heap of both reached a very strong conclusion after a great deal of deliberation. he knows a little of that. but he decides the summer of the claim. this isn't really a genocide. well if you bombing in gaza, specifically to kill him, destroyed palestinian people by targeting them. then that is an active genocide and this is wants to be made clear. so i don't think we should be discussing is thomas semantic do on this matter. we should we demonte of us darma want to you actually going to do to bring it by a safe, far install. the continue supply of items that are being used to kill people in

gaza. that coming from the usa from britain bought a pretty face into as well. and then big boom on defense as people can. garza was fine with me, but i the specialist situation is the victoria, as we heard from rosalia at the beginning of the program at, in cyrus report, children and guns were living in constant fear and a state of anxiety as well as the physical injuries. many of them have suffered to that are going to be mental scars, that all mental scars, this was rubbed the of the childhood. how will we deal with not just the physical injuries, but the psychological trauma that they may have suffered? is it something that what that is going to have to wait until the, the finding ends? are we going to see a generation of kids growing up with severe mental health issues? i think let's just be sure about getting a drug cause in we, we do have mental specialist. i have been going in to garza before i'm even doing

the rule. but now that kind of get have books basically full medical age. these people can't get in. so the only thing we can do now is wait until the sci fi and the access improves and then then we can get the right people in the right areas. okay, so there's reluctance on the part of as well. so that 8, what? because then what about letting kids out? do you think that it's a deliberate policy? does it seem to be a deliberate policy by israel to stop these? these kids who are dying need a shouldn't need a medical care getting out of israel for, to answer the task. that's a treatment. well, we know that's been a reduction in the number of the fact to ations because it's actually been, bruce, how can it be set and discussed with them. we haven't taken any children so far in the u. k. i think from the station a few and it's leon stage and a few but the surrounding countries that egypt and castle has been absolutely swans

. i mean that it is clear now, but not enough people that need to leave all guessing apps. that's here, we are criticizing the u. k is position to use as the belgium. it's lead luxemburg, romania, slovakia and spain have of taken in kids for medical care, some medical treatment, a small group, but recently went to islands. nearly a 100 kids have been treated in the us. what's the situation where you are in no way? well, the recent government has pledge to take up 2 twins, the patients needing treatment from gaza. and we have received a, up till now 6 children who are now in know each and hospitals with family members of receiving treatment. this is a good, but it is far too little. that if you look at the number that the european commission emergency mechanism, the e r c c has received from the dual credit, you know, the number that was 2500 up to the summer. so this is these again,

double standard of europe. i mean, we are supporting the ukraine by systems against the russian invasion with, with friends, with the bible, with political sanctions, with the money. and we'd political support what us the just struggle of the publish thing and people against these really occupation receives no search report. and when the consequences also dialed as we know in the medical sense, we are only taking have particular of the patients to get treatment in europe. it's a shame it's, it's a blessing, shame. we should take much more. and that's roughly and said, we, we know that turkey has taken a 1000 egypt test, receive 2000 and the other countries in particular. jordan and the image i've taken 1500 altogether, 4500 needing patients. europe are taking a few 100. what is this? this is p racism because people in palestine name goza are not as worthy not

as valuable and do not get the same respect and medical support that they should have. this is a stain on the west. this is a stain on our mortality. listen, i'm a doctor. i'm not used only to treat symptoms. i am trained to look for the really close of the seas pain or any suffering that the patient has and the root cause of all the suffering we are discussing here is the, is these really occupation of palestine and the ongoing genocide, the empower side that has to end immediately, to amend that we've medical leave for medical supplies is not going to solve the problem. the only solution to this problem is the ending of the occupational palestine, the lifting of the seats on the, on the media from lasting seas for that's my prescription, as a doctor. jeremy, what are your thoughts on that? matches? absolutely right. this is a model by disaster exacerbated by the decision was made over the last few weeks to

increase the level of involvement, adams, the decisions that we made to prevent people getting gouter browser to receive personal medical treatment on the list of countries that match just read are really tells the old neighboring country is doing their best europe, which is making a great deal of money at bottom sales to as right, providing huge amount of resources to israel to continue its occupation. involvement is not taking people who desperately need medical attention. so our campaigns here in brett, so all about the justice, the palestinian play bundle or the model of the british job in stock. film supplies immediately support the seas for immediately and give medical support to bring people out who can be treated in hospitals, either on naval ships or anywhere around the world. this is critical. people are

dying inside of medical health and medical aid. it's been refused for political purposes that class on the single people i, i just briefly mentioned you want to come in snow. i, you know, i get to pay. i agree with a, with the jeremy on this. but it is important to understand that the people who go so they are fearful of leaving garza because that may be one way tickets. they are not allowed to come in again. and they don't want to leave their, their, their country, their, their home. even if it's boomed so, so the most important thing as was mentioned is to rebuild to the store and reinforce the policy in the appropriate health care system. because the policy and doctors, nurses, and all those bottom ethics are excellent medical professionals. and that's, we are speaking, these really are keeping the compartments on the come on that one hospital. what a doctor has some other stuff here and his staff are,

are very bravely defending the more than 400 people in the hospital. this has to end immediately because of exporting the medical problem is only one part of the solution. the fundamental solution is to reinforce the problems getting improper. so when that the over their own medical system and their capacity to treat their own people in gaza, i'm in the west bank, victoria, we'll give the last word to you. i'm sure that the, the, the medical establishment world wide will be more than willing to treat kids if they were able to get out of gaza and travel to be treated in the hospitals, the clinics. but a man's brought up the issue of, of the doctors, nurses, the health care professionals who are still working on the terrible conditions in gaza. perhaps you, you want to say something finally and introduce to them. it's a, it's an upholding situation for colleagues in gaza. they have been targeted specifically by these rallies. many of them has been forced to leave

a c into each s, and the ones that i last as a trying to have some terrible conditions. and i was mazda saying people are afraid of leaving garza, and that they would be able to go by and we were already seeing this in the news. quite a few of my legs have come down from the north where i can con eunice. that said he, when she saw it was destroyed and they can not get back to the families in the know because of the colorado that's been built, that's cuts them off. so consequently, the rest of the gods now and so that is basically from the south into neighboring countries. they will these garza and there we must end it. victoria rose, match gilbert and jeremy colby. many thanks. indeed for being with us on inside story. thank you for watching. you can see the program again at any time by going to the website. i'll just 0, don't com. and for further discussion, you can join us at our facebook page at facebook dot com, forward slash page right inside story. and of course you can join the conversation on x. i'll handle the h i inside story from adrian said again,

the team here though. huh. thanks for being with us by some of the his 1st trip out of because i'm thinking when i met with as voters a c o then is really isolates because of a palestinian filmmaker become stimulus in no way. i felt i'm just going to go for one month and go back again, separate from his family and homeland and denied the right to work. he battles for acceptance in a foreign land, with dakota, forums of lease, to know how to explain to situations, then you're going to fight it from because the to the optic witness on just so you to the

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