drive exclusive economic growth, or is it just time companies around the world are weighing up a ice cost less? how governments are pushing for the technologies, regulation for the beneficial team on the seat, counting the cost on ologist era. the i'm a lot of us any which in the top stories on al jazeera, a us based age group is quoting for the immediate release of the come out of the hospital, direct doctor who some was the fia, who was arrested by his ready forces during the rate in northern garza, his whereabouts is a known israel detained hundreds of people including medics and patients, and says, 240 a still in custody. some of those who been released having describing the violence and abuse they suffered of the hands of these really ami topic. i was in reports

from darrow, by the strip tough night kits and forced out of northern guns. those last remaining hospital. this footage was recorded the college one hospital of to east by the troops right at the building on friday night for you. you know, these ready soldiers tied us up and blindfolded us. we could hear people screaming . i knew exactly who was being beaten. i was expecting my turn to come and to be beaten as well. they beat us with sticks and bout homes in the cold. the later took hundreds of palestinians away with them. these ready soldiers refused to give us drinking water. we were not allowed to go to the toilets. we were exhausted with tired enough is enough, or colleague is for. abby zeta was mounted yesterday. they killed her while she was wearing a white coat to get tech ignited a fall. yeah, the hospital killing at least 5 medical what? cuz a little bit just not many. yeah. theres riley's been to the operating rooms,

maintenance department, medical rooms and don't catch department. the patients and the wounded people are in a disastrous situation because of walk us by the soldiers. the hundreds of people, including some hospitals, stuff have been released since then box. it's direct. so for some of the stuff has been detained, come on that one hospital has been constantly talking to during, as well as school and gaza is wait a minute to reset that it was targeting, come on, those inside the hospital. well, has provided no evidence who so exist. sorry, companies are out there with that kind of stuff. and these 9 people, including children having killed and, and he's ready to strike and alma gauzy in central gaza thousands of displays, palestinians of sheltering that insightful. c, say, thousands of people have gathered in tel aviv to increase pressure on these ready

to government, to end the will in gaza. families of captives are among the crowds, demanding that the government make a deal to bring them home. meanwhile, couches foreign minister health sci fi talks with a how mazda location in day on saturday, a palestinian john list has been shot dead outside the home in jeanine, in the occupied westbank. the family of showed also above says she was walking to the grocery store when a shot was fired from the direction of a palestinian authority. security forces military points in a statement of security forces spokesman said there were no pests now in the area of the time. it comes amid recent slicing between the palestinian authority and on greens in janine a false meaning. diplomacy efforts underway in serious capital, barring any, i'm libby and delegation, is that me see the leaders of the country is new administration. the new leadership says it's working to ensure

a secure and stable transition of power. we have some breaking news out of south korea now where a plane carrying 181 people has crashed at one international at port. the airport is located in one country county in the country, south west. it gives you some live pictures of imagine c, y because of say, the playing code fi off to driving off the wrong way and crashed. rescue efforts are underway. 23 casualties have been confirmed. russian president vladimir putin has apologize to the leader of us a bit. john, for what he said was a tragic incident in the russian space. it comes off to us civilian ashcroft on missouri. but john crashed off to entering russian s based on was the kidding 38 people. those are the headlines to stay with us. the

a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question with yet another. and then another push for diplomacy. is there a chance for real ceasefire and gossip? let's get to the bottom line. the diplomacy is back on the table after months of stalemate and israel's war and gossip. the situation on the ground gets worse much worse for the millions of palestinians stuck there with no place to go. and no place that safe and just no end in sight. after us president elect donald trump demanded that as real as hostages in gaza be returned before he assumes office next year. efforts to reach a ceasefire are resuming. now the questions are canada you'll be reached before tom gets the keys to the white house and the us military arsenal. what are the obstacles and what would it mean for the future of the palestinians and israelis?

today we're coming to you from the 22nd. doha for him, were leaders and experts from around the world are coming together to discuss global challenges. and we're talking with daniel levy if the emory advisor to the israeli government and current president of the us middle east peace project. daniel, thanks so much for joining us. today listen, ceasefire is now what we're all talking about again after not talking about it for quite a while, no one believed is real with serious, particularly when you have the negotiator of hamas. ishmael honey, i actually assassinated and you also had one more hamas leader us in more assassinated. do you think there's anything different right now in the atmosphere about a possible ceasefire between israel and how much and god bottom lines are going to phrase steve? no, i don't. we have a shift in what's going on 11. there's a broad, uh, regional sense of movement. you, of course,

have the outcome of the elections in the united states about the fundamentals when it comes to the israel gauze. israel from most israel, palestinian dynamic have not shifted. and those fundamentals, all these really side shows no interest. and in fact, politically is set to dentist any of the terms that would make possible an actual ceasefire breakthrough. and steve, we've been here so many times. what is happening to is real internally. i've known you for decades now. i know you were involved with the geneva initiatives you worked for using failing. you worked harder than anyone else. i know over the years to bring some just resolution to this conflict. but as you're watching this unfold, we were just talking about a case of as a sniper drone, essentially a drone that take shots and individuals that are within

a kill zone. and we're seeing and national public radio and the united states reports of women, or walking close to windows, who are shot at or shot actually by a leaf autonomous weapon system that has no human being judging where this is going on. i'm just sitting as an, as really, who's been part of this process. what does that feel like? so let separate some of these things out because as a part of this, which is, as you just framed it, steve, most impossible to wrap one's head around the degree of indifference. the degree of, of, of loss of any sense of a grounding in morality, decency, dignity, and if i can talk about for one second. because what you reference that in terms of the use of a technology in terms of vis it is radio operation. and also being the cutting

edge of what i've seen that we could say is coming to a was o ne, you coming to a city near you automated i, i, i driven, robotic killer technology. part of the story here is the palestine palestinians, all the killing fields, testing ground 0 for some of this technology. and i fear that there are companies involved in this, and there is really commercial interest who are saying, hey, look, we can show you how great this stuff is. and they should be off the say, how terrifying illegal and immediately in need of addressing i'm finding this stuff is we were told early in this conflict in an expos a by the 97 to magazine. and i think the guardian was involved in it as well. of a targeting software, a targeting a technology that was being used qu, lavender,

which created this massive data back of potential talk which, which led to these role being in the i c, j on the charge of genocide because it led to this mass killing. and now we're seeing these killer drones being used. so i should say normally with the killer drones, but we've got is really a defense forces, military forces actually saying leave or die, leave a zone or die, leave north guys or die. and it just raises the question then are we all you mentioned, genocide of the us government continues to say this, this does not meet the uh, the characterization of either ethnic cleansing or genocide. and i'm just wondering what would, if you have a lead for di edict and you've got least the lot tanya, miss weapons that are killing people indiscriminately without a human being involved in that targeting. and, and you see every thing to do with the reality on the ground that you see or the

itself incriminating statements, postings on social media of is really military. by the way, you see the former deputy national security advisor taking to social media or guy could around it see on saying the implementation of this general's plan, the salvation the, the population. the killings in northern garza saying do not obeyed these orders. they all criminal. you see the full chief of staff and minister of defense will be alone, an absolute weak saying this is now reaching the stage of criminality. you see an israel that doesn't want to know the truth you're seeing is really media mobilized to incite its own topic, in many instances,

to support for crimes business really channel close to the government channel. 14, there is a well, don't q meant to now file that has been sent to the attorney general buys ready to write scripts of how this channel 14, it's hosted. panelists it stall, talents. have been calling for ethnic cleansing, genocide, war crimes, mass killings. one brave is really john list. relevant to okay on a different channel showed the reality in gauze. she was castigated, he was attacked from all angles, you're ruining things, you'll preventing all victory. so there are a lot of things going on here. steve. one of them is when you do humanize a people for long enough, which is unfortunately, these rating realities of the palestinians when you build me and therefore you don't have that icon type. so people aren't seen as human. and crucially speaks

when you are given carte blanche to do so, when you are treated by your allies and by the most powerful states in the world with impunity. so you can get away with it. this is where it needs you, but i do want to say this. there are, and i've just quoted a couple there are some in israel who perhaps i'm not going to win any awards for their efforts to reach humanized palestinians. but at some visceral level, they realize that something isn't going right. they realize that the social contract internally has been broken when you no longer give a damn about these railways being held. they realize that you're not actually going to get total victory, or that you're not going to get security if you do this to palestinians because all your crating is doing is generating more and more much more inability of

israel to be accepted by the region that lives in that doesn't translate yet into a kind of alternative politics. that's not supremacist supremacist. it's not a pond side that i would like to see. right. but seems not going swimmingly. well, one of the changes changes in the political topography right now has been the election of donald trump in the white house and he did tweed out that there will be all hell to pay if the hostages are not released. and in some senses, i think is really prime minister. netanyahu got what he wanted. he wanted to see the binding calmly. harris ticket go down and wanting to possibly see donald trump come into office. don't you think it's some level though you've rejected the notion of a ceasefire? that netanyahu has to flirt with a ceasefire? because donald trump, once that, is there a political dimension there? that opens an unexpected door, i think is absolutely correct. to say that not in youngers preference,

historically has been for republican leadership in the us. he made that coalition way back, including with the christian evangelical, right. this has been a bet the ultimately has enough types of paid off to him and he knows that the g o p. the republican ecosystem is the importance of that dispensation list christian, evangelical pro great origin. well, he knows what the don't the clause looks like. he loves what the congressional cool cuz looks like he knows that even if the bite and administration was way out of sync with the constituency that that ultimately was going to be a problem box. and it's an a p e. caveat biden was really convenient for nothin yahoo and let me explain why nothing. your web, the luxury of being able to say, look at me tough guy. i'm sending off the president of the united states who's not really with us. these democrats, you comp trust them. but i'm such

a bad ass that i can stare down the americans, and despite that pressure i can twist that will to do what i want. now that's a fabrication biden has been as bad if it's it's the and the seattle really played out for nothing. yeah, which is golf name to a place where he's made it through these 40 and i'm what's more very not in the context of that. um seattle, with vide not at yahoo, could occasionally tell the most fall right elements of he's co issue when he wants you to, when he needed to guys, we can't do that. i'm, i've got this really sensitive things that i'm working on with the americans. and you could blame the americans, by the way, that might be part of the story of the ceasefire and 11. okay. which looks very different when it comes to guys because these rated coalition political dynamics for nothing. yahoo!

a different when it comes to anything to do with the palestinians. cuz country to what most people like to think which is a ryan is the big thing for his rel, no stealing palestinian land, dispossess, and palestinians expanding israel has always been the driving thing. okay. the problem so nothing yahoo potentially on the trump is it, it could be stabilized that balance within his own politics because some of the trump world is going to be straight. think the small churches, the bank of is and it's not that nothing out who doesn't ultimately align with them ideologically, but nothing yahoo may see a different time table, a different way of doing things a different way of managing this. so trump comes along through social watch out, you know, the bad guy in the sheriff's back in town, almost nelson's the at the moment. so nothing. yeah, that's fine. he's threatening hum us. but really what him and truck and told him, do we need to fix that? so, but what, what do what you need to do beyond what they've done? and i'm not saying that things can get more dreadful. okay. we've, we've,

we've followed this trajectory of, of how this has been full palestinians in gauze. but the idea that there's this new threat level, and i'm also going to put a picture like this is people who are not paying attention. there is no total victory. how must have set out tom's the for west and he is. this may be hard to hear, but those times actually a line with what the watch was calling for. you let these riley's go, they'll be a present as well. israel should withdrawal from gauze a keep goals, a whole issue manager and assistant should go in. that quite closely aligns with the homeless position. it doesn't align a tool with the nothing yahoo position. and i don't think the threat of the new sheriff is going to create a capitulation. and these i see file on toms exclusively of is rose, dictating what then of the rest of the international order and is real. and even amnesty international who has come out very hard for just days ago and said there

is absolutely no doubt. this is genocide on our i phones, you know, we're seeing it in real time. but you've had resignation to the united states state department and the department of defense of people who could not with in good conscience, stay and be part of a system. the continued to turn a blind item that genocide you've seen the warrants for arrest, for the defense minister, former defense minister of israel. and of course, prime minister netanyahu, where is international law, international norms and the kind of broader washington license he brought to washington. but the broader global conscience at this moment. it's right and you've had many of the most prominent international and jewish genocide scholars coming out and saying, he often reluctantly didn't want to draw all this conclusion. almost. goldberg, who's a professor at hebrew university, arian nyah, one of the founders of human rights,

which during these conclusions. so you have this compelling growing body of evidence. you have the international court of justice warning on provisional measures. it hasn't made its final designation. but international low cost is not self employment. what it does is it creates an environment in which we pull up . right. and i think this is the crucial things to west with. it's claimed to be the holder of a rules based system of international law on the architecture, which is a fragile architecture. what the west has decided apparently is the, creating an exception around israel's behavior is, was taking an extra one of those. all the things i'm doing that ability once you write well, the price great team is missive environment. i think we will live to

regret the price of that box. and this is absolutely crucial. it's a world where the geo politics are shifting. it is not a well of american uni poa, predominance and pre eminence. it is a world way. europe is slipping. great. it is a world where mid level powers as well as china, india, a novice, have a say. i think recently for me, p quarters of the global south part of what they're saying is we co go along with an order that cannot be pursued across the board. we are going to challenge you in some way south africa will go to the i, c, j. the number of countries have followed that all

a number of countries a cooling for as well as expulsion from us for an alms export for sports that we see the public in your psych. no, no, no. don't want to tell us stacy's programs. this is anti semitism. if the foot boarding will forward he's on going to kick is round out for it's criminality. then when the fans come, i'm chump they genocide will slow goods. we will not let that pulse. this is not going to be normal sport. so you see all of this happening and i think the questionnaire for becomes what is the tipping point? a many people may look at it and say, look, daniel, 14 month seen everything we've seen ignoring these cool warnings. now with the administration, we're going to have in the us, and we've many western countries doubling down and say nothing to see here. anyone who has a problem with this is apparently has an anti semitic condoms. no jewish communities

need to stand up to this as well. because it is very bad news for everyone, including jude's, i would say no, it doesn't mean that there's no tipping point. we're not there yet. we have more what to do. we've got to create the conditions in which a combination of refusal to accept this in the west and global south states pushing back creates that tipping point. but i think it's so it raises a question. what you're saying about palestinian justice in some dream may be fantasy autonomy. one day about what happens when trump comes into office in united states and turns back to saudi arabia turns back to the abraham accords. and this normalization process that, that they help launch very vigorously with is real. whether or not there's a point at which palestine just drops off the required list page for normalization

. does palestine get betrayed by error of states? again, you have to put the word again. you can do a sentence because this is, this is a rich and troubling history. but let's look at it through that lens because we had those normalization, of course, and month softer. those normalization of quotes. you had one of the most important events, the palestinian unity in default in may 2021. and 2 years later you have october 7th, and here we are at the end of 2024. so has the normalization of codes pushed the palestine off the agenda? i don't think so. no, i called speak for saudi intentions. i think the reality that exists today is not a simple reality for any lead in saudi arabia to say, it's fine, we can forget about all of that. let's move forward. that will be that decision to

make whatever way that decision goes easy. therefore, going to translate into the palestinians, being willing to accept, to formalize a system that is already a part of what it doesn't have, these, the formal palestinian national movement improvement tool that we will happily run your bantustans. thank you. mazda, we have a very weak, very discredited. it was already on representative palestinian political authority at the bottom. but can't do that. so it's people, will it survive if it does that to its people? i doubt it. and therefore, well, the realities is that the palestinians are still that living in desperate inequality, living under the pato, anchorage, living in a reality where partition is driving towards this dentist. and i think we have to re imagine not in a pollyanna,

she's not the way. but the reality that this isn't pull the reality that is ready. the jews aren't coming any way that palestinians ongoing, any way. the palestinians living without rights, is not a recipe for any one's security. and therefore it is going to be addressed. i hope it can be addressed without the beloved in flora of the last year. but i think it will ultimately be addressed in a way where palestinian rights are restored. a regime of ethics supremacy is removed. and under those conditions, these regular jews may actually live in peace because palestinians are living with that right? genetic that the in that please. i'm gonna ask this question carefully because i've always seen you as realist, realistic on this crisis, but hopeful and having a vision. and you've been consistent with that over the years. just finally. and if you were to be surprisingly called by people who have responsibility for this

portfolio, what would you advise them in this moment? i actually think the direction they will take. 6 is a direction which may feel like a sugar rush initially to is released. but when they sink longer and harder about it, us just surrounded by canadians, mexicans and fish, right of israel is surrounded by a middle east. that is finding it ever more difficult to observe and cannot observe . if the palestinians are going to be kept in the state of perpetual insecurity dispossession and everything else that we see and israel does not have endless supplies of reservists, he does have an economy that can sustain this kind of will feeling will for thing. it doesn't have a resistance economy, so i think really is really vulnerabilities have been exposed that i hope lead to a change of mind. well jen, you'll be the president of us middle east project. thank you for your candor and

thank you for being with us today. at the doha for him. great to be with steve as i thank you. so what's the bottom line? there is a theory in political science called the madman theory. basically, we're a powerful leader act. so one predictably, and so we're rationally, it is behavior encourages rivals and even allies to just get out of the way. ronald reagan was seen as someone more aggressive and more unpredictable than his predecessor jimmy carter. so before reagan came to the white house it, ron released the american hostages, that it had taken during your ronnie and revolution. 444 days before trump seems to think he can work the same dynamic with him off and is real. no one knows if it will work, but what we do know for sure is it even if the hostages are released. and even if a ceasefire is reached, the terms won't be ideal for the palestinians. the in balance of power is just too great. and the historical injustice is that the palestinians live under aren't going away with donald trump for without. and that's the bottom line.

the hard hitting intervenes could be interim head for 4 years, which is pretty much an electrical terms. now i didn't say that that would be for 40 years facing realities. what does donald trump's re election? mean pretty tough. it is most important that we focus on how to work with president trump thought provoking on self. and your wife is dealing with the climate crisis. is a crisis of crisis times, but so it's not just one price is up via the story on talk to how does era we are to see these things and seen this of legend some clothes for the stories of civilizations that market history was. this is where the story of savannah do you

have any stories to tell the hello. i'm glad of. as the name of it in the top stories on al jazeera, we have some breaking news out of south korea where at least 28 people have been killed in a plane crash at one international airport in the countries south, west emergency authorities say the playing cool cya off to veering off the runway and he's in a sense the j do app lane was retiring from buying coke with 175 passengers and 6 crew rescue effort.