steve was never comfortable in washington. jimmy carter's body was blown back to georgia and to his home town of plains. and that's where you'll be laid to rest next to his wife russell and his wife of 77 years. oh and for sure, i'll just see that at the national cathedral in washington, serious national museum has officially reopened off. it was closed last month. the us address shame was purple and my husband has more than this now from damascus. a lot of them all for cd and dyslexia and i from the reopening of the nation's oldest and largest museum is a welcome relief from this point was the ins across syria. many cdn at defense have been looted and sold in black markets across the world. an activist guy that he had the museum once the auction to be taken. i mean, i'm not gonna pay for it. just documented some illegal excavation operations at major historical sites. there are also reports of museums that were looted,

such as in rocca and other places. officials the whole there would never have to close the museum again on the deck these of the nearly 14 years of receivable. i know behind them. how does that, how much does the damascus and you can find more information on our website. sites obviously are not coming on your media devices and is continues, oh no, so you're off to the street state the the, there's no limit to how far a dream contains key stuff in your own adventure. now,

counter arrange for the past 15 months, alongside the killing and maiming of tens of thousands of palestinians history in and around because that has been reduced to rubble by israel. and today's show we look into what war does to culture and what the future looks like when you are a collective past has been erased. and these forces, and this is the strange kind of t protecting these sites, means preserving more than just stones and ruins. it's safeguarding the legacy of human creativity and resilience, intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science and historic monuments, amounts to war crimes. that's not me saying it, but the rome statute of the international criminal court. but general southern gaza has led many to believe international law has become little more than a concept that states aspire to with no real consequences if they don't abide by it

. and we are currently witnessing unprecedented level of aggression against cultural landmarks to bind people together and served as testament to our shared history. joining us to discuss the implications of this almost offer palestinian content creator and digital activist in the people. and there they loan they, they lose the identity. this is, this is affecting the identity of the people generation after generation after generation. and it's heartbreaking, isn't it? and that's why we called you guys to join us today to speak about this connection. ricardo, you are joining us from beirut, lebanon, being israel, 2nd front, and we've seen what is doing to sites there as well. here, a village in southern lebanon, the location of a 2000 year old trying, going 1st, how does that make you feel as a lebanese, and what are the implications of damaging sites instructor such as ball back entire,

on the lebanese people. but also what does that mean to all of us to the rest of the world? and i believe i belong to the generation that has decided to do you mean, and rather than despite all the attractions we have and or degree and offers. i personally have to pursue my cree somewhere else and i've decided to remain here. i live in them is not a new state and then is visited by itself. it's a pos, just 1002000 years of history of family. shared a part of these and the willingness to the meal, we had the, the 2 different kinds of what was in lebanon and always made it. and the mean here at this so, so it's,

so i'm making to see villages for the part to see people scattered to see this phase. people going over. it doesn't mean that the parental but also to base pieces of our history. but they could always pay more attention to the priority is widely given to the humanitarian situation. the protection of cultural heritage in all its forms must also be taken into account in accordance with its mandates. unesco calls on all actors involved to strictly respect international law. cultural property should not be targeted or used for military purposes, as it's considered to be civilian infrastructure. amari your thoughts on this officer. they have a point because the priority is a mentor and situation human lives. boss. if all agencies like you know, school can do is voice their concern and call for restraint. all is getting the

part is to protect and per se and is right. it is manufacturing concerns by using that from us fighters, that they are hiding under everything in order to destroy everything and to destroy the culture, to the story, the history, to destroy the religious sides on the, on the city and goes on. so there must be more action, there must be more international protection for this sides as well for the humans, for and on that particular point of manufacturing consent. ricardo, i want you to take a look at the split resource from social media, and then i'll get your reaction. let me show you how to use relevant strength and benefits are concerned for the destruction of val back the world heritage site through the used to read the pdf. when you click on that, we keep you to a page file back. this pops up, and as you can see, it states that file back is a has the last stronghold. but if you go to the internet archive and search for previous innovations of the page, you find that that sentence is not there. so i decided to do

a little bit of thinking you're going to talk between me compete here, you'll find the discussions that editors have on content and check out these exchange between 2 people. one is questioning why did statement the file back is. here's the last stronghold keeps popping up, and then you have a whole back and forth in which the person who keeps having this description to the repeat. if either involve back, if they think that they have sources that show that he is a strong hold. so i'm going to look at the sources. there are 2 news pieces. one is the rest of america. the other one is right. there's in the book states that fall back is a, his blast from cold without any justification in sources whatsoever . this is with manufacturing consent is because for the thousands of people who never heard of the fall back before and went to look at it, it could be the 1st thing that they see. is it allegation that this city is

a handful of franco, and therefore it's possible for destruction. ricardo, your thoughts on what's been happening? and on this particular point of manufacturing consent, i mean, everything has become a, his ball or a mazda stronghold at this stage. can you, can you talk to us a little bit about that? i think this floor is more of a water phonetic is rather than anything else. no, gather taxes or markets. you know, i mean, the story is used to have the heck, the way it used to come into stories for people from one generation to another. you know, these are symbols of identity and this is something nobody can ever touch anymore. and when you know these faces of loss, when these pieces are damaged, which is over to, and very often without any kind of the reason they say, you know, the hezbollah, what the, you know, the army you know, is hiding there. you know,

for the, for that and those please. annette just structures that affected it is our memory. it's of the collective memory i, i want to bring in paul very briefly because he said something that we, when we talked about what's happening before the show. you said nation building requires an identity and if that identity is based on lies and you have to destroy the evidence, is that what's happening here? that's right. yeah. uh, building a national identity is a, it requires somebody to put together some kind of cohesive narrative from history that serves the current national project. especially when that project is oppressive against an indigenous people like in palestine. the research isn't a central part of building that narrative so, so you have to raise the longstanding evidence that directly receives the narrative

you're trying to construct to justify crimes against humanity. home i would like for the 3 of you to stay with us while we bring it into the conversation. felix gets caught. co founder of now here media. felix, thank you so much for your time. you've been using technology to preserve culture. be at places that are a threat of being destroyed or that have already vanished. i'd like to know a little bit more about the work that you do. thank you. so now you media be created most of the experiences. so we breakfast virtual reality funds are meant to create it to you, and then the concepts contracts and pick it up in culture or yeah, concerns and concept in some form or another. so that, that could be tangible. those kind of intangible cultural heritage for, for example, we have been working in ukraine during the or after the 1st conversion and

documenting different types of sites that as well as counseling partitioning as well. so it's very important that and the practitioners, the culture that has nothing but what is defined by culture is also the people. it's not only the buildings, it's an important talk, but also the people into more bulk assume the but also about the importance of working with these communities. everywhere you go when you're trying to rebuild places or oral language that are important to these people. yeah. so, so notice uh, the arch periods that the co created together this across from the community in the palm, which is an indigenous community there that used to be altogether us and before us of the call. and they are using that language say a few of us because and this very broadly, the story of an old man who forgot his mother tongue and his grand daughter picking it up again. and we had to really work together. this is community to make this

happen in order to, to adjust this to the, to the culture and become span 9 or busing between marcus and us. and it was very clear that this would be done in the appropriate to methodology. and that's something we apply across our project. it's possible in different fonts or shapes and then click on the language is something that is much more than words. it's also the environments and which is spoken. obviously the context mattress. and in this case, such as the together a community that speech language in a very specific context. and for that, we're using a 3 d animation as well as 3 d scan except for the rental trace can simpler match for capture techniques in order to recreate some of these spaces and give an idea of how, how their culture and the language that interconnected, they also built an artificial intelligence model like an option which model in order to be able to speak so that the audience is able to speak to someone that was in the experience to move certain thoughts. oh, i mean,

it is fascinating what technology can do, but obviously it doesn't bring these spaces in these places back. i want to talk about the future 9 for that. i want to invite amar, ricardo, and pull back. i'm, i'm, are you just heard felix there and, and the potential to create something that was lost back in a way, would you say that that is an alternative? i mean it's better than nothing and what are the consequences for future generations? how will all of this loss affect them? it is absolutely is being transferred to integration after the integration of those. and the reason that it's being presented this way, not only by physical side. so this is another way of preserving the culture and historic side buying, selling and having to digital memory. now that we have this technology, this is going to have it for sure. me pull in terms of accountability,

who has to pay for the cultural losses inflicted and what would justice look like in your opinion? well, going back to palmera. uh, in that sense they were, they took digital scans of the site and that was how they were able to later come back and rebuild through. i believe it was a unesco initiative to try and rebuild what was lost and destroyed there. the funding for that was an international effort on the internet. the

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