the tomorrow's discussions international so make cause them will cost journalist bring programs and inspire you barnowski sierra the so i'm fully back to going to high with the look at on main stories on how to 0. h lease for administer is in syria to show support for a peaceful transition of power. after the fall of a shallow side, antonio to johnny met with the leader of serious new administration, not at all. sure, as well as with the foreign minister i found out shabani. his visit comes a day after he hosted a special meeting with us secretary of state down to me blinking and e, 4, and ministers in rome to align their strategies on serious transition. what i'm going to during these talks last night,

we concentrated on the importance of lifting the sanctions of the sanctions were imposed on the previous regina ousted regina and the sanctions will hit the syrian people. they must be lifted so typically will play a role in this regard. and i think open and structured dialogue in this particular period of time is quite important. so me look at it because i'm in the process by the real thing and we need to confirm my commitment to the values and principles that will boost the human rights and seriously every 30 and regardless of the effect, because the law will prevail and citizenship will apply equally to everyone. this is quite important to keep and maintain the stability and sovereignty of syria and will be good of all for the region to engage rescue efforts are underway after and is really striking a home in con units in the south. our medics rushed to the house, which has been partially reduced to rubble. civil defense teams say one person was killed and another 3 seriously injured. they've been taken to hospital for

treatments. and northern guys, a smoke is rising above suburbs reduced to rubble since early on thursday is really forces have been bulldozing, demolishing, and burning dozens of palestinian homes. you need your body, a refugee camp. gun fire and intensive onto a re fi were reported me out at hospital is really ami. reinforcements have arrived in the area which has been under siege since early october. and who do rate is in central guys. i would move on the difficulties being faced in areas that are being bumped the people, the funds teams told us that they are unable to rescue or to retrieve bodies in different houses. because most of the times there are more than one talk in the same exact hour, and they can't just go to all of the houses. also the fact that there is no equipment. and most of the civil defense teams are using their bit that they're have civic and very bare minimum tools. also the fact that they told us that

sometimes the only take the people who are on the top of the house or on the top of the collapsed building. and that's because they are unable to dig more to retrieve more bodies any out of walls use in the us 5, why fire is spreading rapidly in a county. at least 10 people have been confirmed dead. but the total is expected to rise. rise, emergency close search through the ruins of john buildings. new evacuation orders have been issued in the san fernando valley after another fire, fire ignited northwest, so the city of los angeles, within 200000 people have been ordered to leave dangerous owens. the impacts of climate change are now visible on every continent affecting people in every country from the riches to the forest you find is the last year was the 1st full year in which global temperatures exceeded 1.5 degrees celsius above pre industrial times. research shows that every month in 2024 was the warmest or 2nd warmest to date. and

each of the past 10 years was among the 10 war maced on wreckage to russia as 5 barrage of drawings across ukraine. 5 hate the northern city of tourney. have leaving one person named jared and another hate an apartment block in the capital keys. ukraine's air force said it down. 33 of the 70s to remotely piloted the craft and us president elect. donald trump says he's arranging a meeting with russia, surprised it invited me to put in to discuss the war in ukraine. he made the statement a week and a half before his inauguration, one of tom's campaign promises was to end a conflict within 24 hours of taking office. the president to excess booting wants to meet, but fresh and state media codes the criminal and say no formal meeting has been requested yet. those are the headlines stay with us for the bottom line. next the

a. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question with both the republican and democratic parties offering is real unconditional support, as it designates life and guides a day by day. can the palestinians expect any change after in all your ration day? let's get to the bottom line. the in his last few days in office, president joe biden has a nelson $8000000000.00 weapons deal for israel and reaffirmed us unconditional support. meanwhile, is really forces continue their bombing campaigns throughout garza, which now have killed more than $45000.00 palestinians. mostly women and children. food is scarce, the winter is harsh, and israel has destroyed the last functioning hospital in the northern part of the strip and detain the hospital director, president elect donald trump. i just unwavering support to israel as well. it says he wants the water wine down. so are we about to see changes in us policy in the

region, or is there just going to be more of the same? today we're speaking with author and journalist ryan grim, co founder of drop site news. ryan, thanks so much for joining us. listen, we're at the tail end of the by the ministration, and you've been watching this conflict as long as i have. and, but particularly since october 7th. and what's happened on all sides of this middle east quagmire and the punctuation point ending the by the ministration is a new $8000000000.00 aid package to israel in this, in this crisis. what are your thoughts? yeah. 8 packages. one way to put it. yeah. just, you know, this inventorying, the entire warehouse of, of weapons in the united states and just quickly shipping off whatever. we're not gonna send to ukraine, you know, directly to, to israel it's, it's not even clear what on earth, israel would be using $8000000000.00 worth of weapons for when, you know, they claim that they're, you know, on the brink of a ceasefire. they today,

they're supposed to have struck a cease fire with 11 on think they're running out of reasons to, to bomb syria. i know that they were, you know, they were doing some saber rattling with egypt recently. but i can't imagine that they're going to launch attacks on egypt. the ron is extraordinarily weekend. but i guess if you're a democratic and administration and you've, you've got weapons left over. you just send them to israel before your time expires . i mean, you just notice that we're again reporting, they were close to a cease fire. i can't tell you the number of times i've heard that and had various spokes people and commentators and observers saying they don't buy it. i think we're probably the realist showing this that has no hope on that front, but do you have any serious help with donald trump coming in that there could actually be a ceasefire? and yeah, the only reason there would be some hope is that, you know, trump is very publicly said, that he wants a ceasefire and he wants it by january 20th. and so, you know, net, yahoo then has to decide whether or not, you know,

he wants to start off the trump administration where he's already kind of on his back foot. if people remember, because, and trump was mad at netanyahu for congratulating joe biden on winning the 2020 presidential election. i think, you know, trump has, you know, privately said some kind of fairly nasty things about that. yahoo! so net yahoo is not in a, in a stronger position personally as he is kind of g o politically with, with trump in the united states. and so the question for now is, does he want to buck trump right away by continuing by continuing to war after january 20. so that's the only reason i think that around january 20th we might actually get a ceasefire now whether it holds or whether it's just something that's announced. and so that trump can celebrate it and say he's moving on and then it. and then it picks up again in a, in a lighter form going forward, lighter form, meaning you have 2000000 people suffering the, you know, the most unimaginable humanitarian conditions you can possibly contemplate. but you can imagine it just going on and definitely yet calling it a cease fire. you know,

ryan, president biden advise is really prime minister netanyahu don't go into ross. i don't use to ton bombs in residential neighborhoods. don't provoke iran directly. don't launch a full war 11 on don't occupying more syrian lance when you kind of look at it. netanyahu has been on a role and everything that prime minister, i'm that presidential by and asked to do, just got brushed, just brushed aside. i'm just interested in this relationship now and what the implications are of that and, and what it means in your, in your eyes, when you see an american president. so easily brush aside. and now actually you hear from the secretary of state and joe biden, taking credit for a lot of what has unfolded in the middle east. right? is it spits been utterly humiliating for the bite and, and, and for his team, you saw the new york times interview with the asked me blinking recently where he, he, that exact question was put to him or is that you, you, you told him not to go into raw for they wouldn't a rock that he said,

uh huh. but they went into rafa in a different way than they were planning to. and if you look at ariel footage, or on the ground footage of rafa, they have completely destroyed the place left it in utter and total ruin and rubble . and so how that's different from what blinking told them not to do is, is left onset it's, it's the get. and the gap there is just the total humiliation of, of, of democrats and of, of joe biden. go back in around december. it's, it seems fairly clear and people were saying this in is really media roughly at the time, but certainly since then that netanyahu made a calculation around december of 2023, january 20, 232024. that there was a strong enough chance that donald trump was going to win the white house. he was going to completely ignore anything that came from the white house that was short of weapons restrictions. and that there might even be some wilkens restrictions as a result of his refusing to, you know, to follow the kind of suggestions,

the gentle suggestions made by the, by the ministration. so he made that calculation. i'm going to spend a year taking some public heat from the binding white house, but i'm going to bank on trump taking office. come next january. and that paid off for him. could you see one day, the world organizing against american leaders for what they've seen on fold, which many are trimming a genocide in gaza and i think you could see it, you know, i think you're going to have your 1st you're going to see what we're currently seeing which is, is really soldiers who have, you know, traveled abroad for vacation, posting on their public social media that they have, you know, gone to these particular countries. and then they have a job foundation and others sending evidence of war crimes to those countries. so far, all of those soldiers have managed to escape those countries and get back to israel

in time before they have been arrested and charged with war crimes. i think 1st, what you'll see is some of those soldiers will actually get arrested and can get charged. that will create open enormous amount of international attention is that holds people are going to say, wait a minute. obviously work criminals should be imprisoned. but these are the lowest ranking, you know, criminals, this is what these are the, the literal foot soldiers like. what about the people who issued the orders, you know, already. yes. you know, it was really leadership is quite hemmed in about where they can travel internationally because of i, you know, because of icy c wants you. you could imagine, i think, a world in which american power is enough in competition with china. that countries felt as if that they had the, the actual political ability to carry out their obligations under the rome statute

. and that they wouldn't, that the benefits they might get from the rest of the world for doing that might outweigh, the costs they would suffer from the united states. that depends on what happens with the, you know, the united states power in the world over the next several years. you could also imagine is a trump administration, going to lift much of a finger to defend by administration officials. i don't see that. do you think china may be a game changer, potentially in this story, to take it a different direction that we may not be thinking of today? i think there's certainly watching like that they are. i think they're allowing the united states to continue to play a hand and see where it goes from there. i think if the us is successful in kind of basically of carrying out this genocide and then oh, and then crating normalization between israel,

saudi arabia and the u. e. a. and creating that kind of security architecture that, that they have been draining up for decades at this point and, and eliminating the palestinians as a material question in the mid east like the, if the genocide is effectively successful, then you might see china say, all right, well, they, they played a vicious hand and they, and they succeeded at it. but they also may not succeed at that. you know, the odds are stacked against them. these are, there are, there are millions of human beings that we're talking about and they're not, they're not, they're not necessarily, they're not all going somewhere and they can't kill all of them. and so, if it does remain a fluid situation, i could imagine you could see china come in while, you know, maintaining it's, you know, it, it loves to save. you know, we're, we're, we don't believe in interference and other countries, domestic affairs or they don't want anybody telling them what to do internally. but like you said they, they, they breached they broach that date. todd between or on is how you maybe they,

they did some work, you know, bridging divides with, in the, in a palestinian politics. so your could, they offer themselves as a less chaotic mediator in the region. i, i think certainly like the, what the us has to show for it's quote unquote mediation over the decades is a body count in, in the millions and endless chaos. so at some point, you could imagine people in the region looking for a different direction. you know, another weird feature of the topography right now in this region is in the palestinian side of things. you know, tell us the need of the 40 ratcheting down it's mon people in janine i. alger 0 for candidly is under a lot of pressure, can be squeezed out a palace and either because if it's reporting on markwood, abbas and what's going on in the bring aids that are killing palestinians, i'm just sort of interested in it this moment. if you're up, if you're in cause you're in the west bank and you're

a citizen and you're not attached to him. honestly, just be clear. i think sometimes there is a recklessness in american media. i want to be honest about confusing who is who and whatever that no matter what you think about october 7th and i'm us there many, many, many, many innocent palestinians in this situation who are now under siege by their own government. what are your thoughts there? it's a, it's an interesting game that israel's playing like you said, and particularly in the west bank, but also in gaza in, in, in gaza. you know, they are, they are affectively, like you said, they're trying to eliminate a mazda as a governing authority there. and all the evidence suggests that they are deliberately allowing the flooring of, of basically armed gangs in, in gaza over in the west bank. lot of is really politicians are ours saying that they need to just basically choke the life out of the p at, you know, withholding withholding salaries, constantly making,

making their kind of security role that they have as a kind of sub contractor for the israeli government. much more difficult and it almost seems as if they're hoping that they'll be some type of, you know, armed conflict in the west bank that would then allow for something similar there that's happening in gaza. but like i said, that's, it's an extraordinarily dangerous game. but it's, it's not obvious where, where that ends and, and whether it necessarily ends well for. it is relatively, as really go from i got a private communication from a senior editor in american media. i can't mentioned the individuals name, but this individual said steve, you and, and many others don't get it. this is like, uh, you know, is real, you know, following the model of americans basically moving native americans off their lands, the united states and spreading and isa. and are just interested when you hear that,

what's your response to that sort of logic that some people at senior levels in american media have that this is just nothing more than what america did in, in taking on a native american indians in the united states. well, i think it's correct. uh, you might think most americans who would say something like that. what said with the majority of behind it that we don't act, we're not actually proud of the fact that that we did that. but we, we acknowledge that it happened. and you know, with the benefit of hindsight, and the benefit of it being a fee to complete, that won't be reversed by our, our apologizing for it that we apologize for it. it's, it's extraordinary kind of startling. i think for people to use something that is universally accepted as a genocide, as the rationale for what they are currently doing and use that as

a defense along the way, i want to play a, a clip of president trump's comments about this situation with his new middle east envoy who has been negotiating to try to get these hostages relieves the woodcock. let's listen. if those hostages are back, i don't want to virginia go. she ation. and then i'd back by the time i get into office, all hell will break out in the middle east and it will not be good for a mouse and it will not be good frankly, for anyone all hell will break up. i don't have to say it anymore, but that's what it is. right. what do you do with something like that of the incoming president laying out a potential nightmarish scenario with no detail. what's the responsible way to frame that, respond to it? what do you believe trump is saying it from palestinians that we speak to on the ground and gaza? you know, he's been saying that now for a, for several weeks. different versions of it and it's, it's a,

it's just it's gallows humor, in gaza when they hear that. because the question is, what does he think the situation is right now? like it already is. no absolute hell on or like, and it's, and it'd be, it goes from a kind of dark joke to an actual question of why we are currently being start dying of disease. frostbitten flooded and being bombed around the clock. what did become the legitimate question? what more actually do you think you can do like right now there's a handful of trucks that are going into your so you're going to take that to 0. it becomes an open question. like what, what do you mean like you've kind of taken turning it into hell on earth, off the table by already turning it into how on earth. but his point i feel like is also directed and netanyahu that he's emphasizing, how serious he is about just not wanting to deal with this as part of his

presidency and telling that yahoo get, get this done. and so i think that's why there's a reasonable chance that this, that, that they do announce some kind of ceasefire with a hold. and i don't know around january 19 through january 20th, and it's also why do i was saying in december? so when they were saying our days away from a deal, know that you have a nosy, has until january 20th, at least, and he's gonna use every minute of that to on, on least this, this hell on earth. from your sense of things, do you think trump has an opportunity to get a saudi peace deal with israel? i think he certainly does. uh, the, the question is, what level of humiliation is kind of saudi arabia willing to accept when it comes to not getting anything on the, on the pals, dell and the question of palestine the and that, that, that, that really remains to be seen. i do think, you know, the, the golf leaders in general in, in their,

in their own private moments would sign off on anything and enter, enter the abraham. of course, i think show that they're willing to effectively side step the question and just pretend the question of a palestine doesn't exist. it does. so, and, but, you know, perhaps saudi arabia will accept some type of language that says there will be a future, you know, state in discussion that doesn't really have any, not in your office that doesn't really meet our nominal understanding of what of what a state is especially as israel looks, you know, increasingly intent on continuing to settle the west bank and expelling people from there and come to in settling northern causes and expelling people from there as well. right. one of the things i really appreciate it you're reporting as i've known for many, many years, is you're not only writing about the macro things you're talking to real people. people trust you with your information, you're talking to human beings and putting things in a human context. i've been taken with the fact that you've covered recently

posthumously a palestinian from gaza, who is killed by israel early in the war, and his name was re 5 our we're in a book he publish called if i must die. and in this, this was a guy who never picked up a gun. he was an english teacher out spoken about a situation and he was killed. i'm interested in your take on this and what message you think we should all hear that refund, all the rear uh was trying to communicate a, you know, a lot of people probably read at some point. his poem, if i must die, which came out, you know, not didn't come out, came out in 2012, i believe, but it became a viral sensation. you know, after he was killed in a, in a targeted strike by his really he was in a, the 2nd story apartment, that was the only apartment that was hit and he was hit after. you know, he was warned by his really government officials that he, that he would be killed in many of his a close family members were killed in that strike as well. it was the that was

dedicated to his young daughter, his, his young daughter, her husband and, and their infant son. they were killed in april of last year as well in the, the book if it's one of the best books i've read, frankly, it and, and some of the weight i'm sure is driven by knowing how his story ends. but reading his interview is reading his essay is reading his palms is, is a profound experience and i, i would recommend the book. it's called if i must die, published by o r books. i had nothing to do with the publication of it. but it's, it, it's, it's a, it's a tremendous work in its ability to kind of humanize the experience of, of what, what he had lived through. and he, he talks about how he decided to learn english and write in english, because he wanted to learn the language of his colonizer as of, of his oppressor. so that he could reach them hard to heart so that people like me

who don't speak arabic, could read his problems, read his words and understand his human condition. and he pulled that off. i think probably beyond his wildest dreams. and he was and he was killed 4. and one of the things he says is that as poets, we need to stop saying that somebody is just a poet. that you know, they were killed even though they were only a poet. when in fact, you know, the pin really is in many ways, murder than the sword to you know, just just as a quick follow up because i'm very taken with what you said. um, we just saw the destruction of the last functioning hospital in the strip, the detention of the hospital director. but there are many others like raphi don't a rear who were poets, intellectuals, you know, take talk, stars, etc. these are not warriors that have been, you know, silenced in and killed. and i'm, i'm interested in whether or not we are doing enough. but frankly i, i have wrote

a piece for the atlantic some years ago on the heroic actions of the rockefeller foundation and saving, harassed jewish intellectuals and 19 thirties, europe. many of them brought them to the united states. and it was complicated because rock solid foundation was a setup to do that. but looking at people that were targeted and seeing their, their individuals as hard choice that, that matters so much because of what they bring in the voice they have. are we failing completely on that front? from your perspective? i think we are, but i think the task is beyond us. i think the warehouse to end that's that's, that's the only way that the people that are in need of a rescue and it's of saving and, and, and it just food and medicine are going to get it in any, in any scale. but i don't think any of us have the capacity to have the capacity to confront the depths of the evil that are,

that are on just on display right now. you know, they are, you know, there's basic things that could be done easily though they're sitting there somewhere between 25 and, and 50000 people that we know of or, and guys that were in need of critical care and could travel to get that care is real is blocking them from traveling that with, with the stroke of a pen. what, you know, just the lifting of a thing and boom, like that's 25 to 50000 lives right there. that could, that could be changed, more food to be allowed in more medicine to be allowed in the, the israel could stop attacking hospitals. but all of that requires is rarely action and united states action. so we can do it. we can, we can, we can lift up the stories of, of the, of the heroes there who are, who are doing everything they can to, to save others. but we can only do so much. well listen, thank you journalist ryan grim, co founder of drop site news. really appreciate you joining us and for your

calendar today. all right, thanks steve. so what's the bottom line? it might have started with gaza, but israel's crisis is ballooned to include the west bank, lebanon, syria, iran and yemen plus the international criminal court, plus a number of countries that have cut diplomatic relations in response to israel's actions to it all president joe biden. and his national security team have stumbled badly every step of the way. now the world awaits the see how president elect donald trump is going to respond to the causes of crisis. he's promising that quote, all hell will break out. but what exactly does that mean? especially for 2000000 people, totally fence then with no hospitals, no food, and daily is really bombing campaigns. so far nothing. and no one has appeared in trump plan to indicate that any change in the equation is on the horizon to stop. you know, i, elation of palestinians and their national aspirations, and that sadly is the bottom line.

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