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seen in this war that has lasted 467 days. nothing y'all well, so meeting with his finance minister, best and smart risk to try and gauge where he is on voting for a deal smaller, which has released several statements throughout the week. initially, his statements were a little more har saying that he's absolutely not going to vote for a deal. but on wednesday he said that he's still on defense. he's not exactly sure how he's going to vote. and this has been a concern among a lot of his really politicians that will benjamin netanyahu is government collapse as part of a cease fire deal. but none the less is really officials are optimistic at this hour about the final stages of this deal. and of course, this is going to be good news for our families and friends, relatives of those being held captive in guys i would imagine will also be good news for those of us who are friends and family of palestinian prisoners because of course, part of this deal of fundamental part of this field is a swap between the 2 has the being continued pressure in israel,
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on the net some yahoo correlation to push for this deal in order to get the captive st as well. this was actually one of the main sticking points for a lot of members of the government that they didn't want to see long or life sentence serving palestinian prisoners released from is really jails who was on that list was also part of the problem in the far right, didn't want any palestinian prisoners released, it's worth mentioning that threw out to the last 15 months. there have been thousands of palestinians across the occupied west bank across occupied east jerusalem. would have been arrested by his really forces throughout these continuous raids. and it's still unclear exactly who is going to be released, but this was surely a point of contention for the is really government because the far right again did not want to see palestinian detain needs from is rarely jones released as part of the deal. but as we saw back in november of 2023, that was part of the cost for
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a deal for these really captives were released. there was a prisoner swap. but now the situation is a little different. the cost is going to be much higher after more than $467.00 days of this war. and it's also worth mentioning, this will finally put an end to the suffering of the millions of palestinians and gaza, who been forcibly displaced to ban starr who has been seeking refuge from relentless, is rarely bombardment just in the last 24 hours. you are looking at nearly a 100 pounds billions, who's been killed and these really military for some time. and for is really officials have said that this was going to be their policy that they had goals of the war to achieve. and among them was eliminating anyone who was involved in him, us making sure that they do not stay in power. and they were going to do that at any means necessary, even if it meant killing civilians. you're talking about nearly 50000 people who have been killed, hundreds of thousands of others who have been injured. nearly 2000000 who have been
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forcibly displaced and shortly the ceasefire will be welcomed by the world to put an end to that suffering of the palestinian people in gaza. a honda? thank you very much. any this? honda sahu talking to as they are from a monica just let you know that we are expecting a press conference from the, from joshua as a foreign minister in the next few minutes we think. and as soon as the course we get that we will bring it to you. i want to go back to honey offload and data obama in central gaza. you spoke to us just a few minutes ago, honey, when the news began to populate out about this deal about the reaction of the people there to the news. just tell us again, this is dealers are just joining us. what people have been saying and how they've been reacting to this news that they see spar deals in guys according to media reports, doesn't seem to have integrated with where you know rob for the past months. people who used to come at our book gusting point and ask this one. and only one question about when is the ceasefire going to happen
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when the war is going to in that for the 1st time, i can see genuine happiness in the eyes of all the people as standing around us here. as the news a started to go by, right, and people reading more about the, the agreement between our mazda and his read on a ceasefire agreement that the, the, the approval that the, with the, of the, the deal has, has been as received from the uh, the overhead or then the stakeholders and this whole daunting process for months. people have been laid down so many times to the point they did not care whether it's going. they did not care about the details off of any seeds by or other than one major priority did. the war should end and the mass old feeling of civilians across the gaza strip. shit must come to an end. and i think at this moment what we're hearing of from people that i can't help, but hearing people react in, i'm feeling the the happiness and the excitement that denied is going to be different than the past night. even though the ceasefire has not taken effect yet.
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it's only an announcement, but the hopes now are rising. they are definitely on the rise. but we from past experiences the past 2 years, we learned it from the time of a ceasefire, announced through the time is taking effect. this is a very critical moment to critical times, indeed that, that there might, we might see an increase in the talks of just what happened before. the announcement of the agreement on the sheets fire 0. there was a significant sergent das, india talks that words people made them very concerned. but despite all of that, people are leaving their 10 site now and gathering in the area around the hospital here around journalists around media workers here to know more of. 7 this, these fires do know more about the details we started to hear requested now about, okay, when is the, when is it going to take effect? when is the time that we're going back to their homes? everybody now concerned after 15 months about the time of their return displacement has been very difficult for people. they have been doing much of the,
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the challenges and the difficult living conditions in 10 sites. then living in the streets and struggling on daily basis to find basics and the fact that these water food and, and the medical supply hospice i was on the brink of collapse. all of this is happening. and now people are having, asking about when all of this is going to be met when all of this is going to be answered. but this is just the beginning, more people are pouring into the hospital and i think in a few minutes where you're going to see more people coming out of the 10 scans, that didn't scans are in remote areas in this is around the hospital and do not have access to electricity or internet, and we believe more people are showing up here because it's the only place with power supply with internet to know more about the seeds fire agreements. honey, obviously people also called up and the moments given the news that this appears to be coming out that there has been a ceasefire agreement in gaza at the same time. of course, they must be aware,
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given what they have been through over the last 15 months. that in many ways this is just the start of the next stage. and if there's pause and fighting does contain use that as any norm or somebody to rebuilding and restructuring that has to be done, done. not only of course, to gather itself on people's homes and businesses, but for individuals to try to come to terms with their new life under those circumstances. absolutely, and people are now are just caught in the moment the excitement that there is is going to end. but they're, they're always have these questions about going back to their normal life, collect and rebuild their shot or live that i've been completely sadder by the, the intense bombing campaign. many of the people around this area, by the way, have family members are still in golf and city and the northern part of district. they haven't seen them ever since. they are work force into this internal displacement. there's a lot of things that we do in between reports and
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a break time that when we talk to people, we hear many of the of the story is many of the memories that people were waiting anxiously for the moments of the seeds far so they can go back to, to these memories, what we are seeing on here. now at this moment, people are going to be going again and, and that's that sifting through ruins and memories of, from what they have left behind. 15 months ago, remember, it was only one week that people experience the seeds fire and a stop to mass bombardment that it was in december 2023. after that we looked at a year long of relentless bombardment to the point. people were not given that time or were not given just up to retrieve it well do more and the property that did was because the attacks happened at the very fast phase. we would see here behind me at the courtyard of the hospital,
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and this applies everywhere across garza funerals, by the hour people who would show up in the morning for the funeral. their family members. i mean they, they will, would be seeing them laid on the ground and other people are carrying them in from the hospital and to a nearby graveyard. this happened around the clock. it did not leave people the proper time to grieve their loved ones and family members did not leave them to refer you well. and if just porn or dam being the most intense psychological psycho that to the point people here were close to lose vanity because of the pressure that was put on them. that's a from one side. the other side is the psychological one, living intense. they are in the streets that lacking the proper access, worrying constantly about family members who was met, who were still or stayed in northern part of the strip at the absence of safety and security were taking a walk in the streets or would, would require so much thinking again,
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i'm thinking it through carefully which area you wanna take and stay away from people gathering in a group that from buildings, all of this to a very psychological, a mental talk on people. and i don't want to start talking about journal because that's the same psycho that we lived it through in the past 50 months. i mean my food in the about how do you thanks very much indeed. honey. talking to us later about the reaction in gaza to the news that a jazz as these 5 deal appears to have been signed, president elect donald trump in us, has posted on his 2 social websites. he says, we have a deal for the hostages in the middle east. they will be released shortly. thank you. she says, let's go to james based on the magic editor in new york. in many ways it is tempting to breathe a sigh of relief ops. this news that upon the a ceasefire deal has been agreed, but it is still very early stages. we still don't have all the details. one would imagine that there was an awful lot of cautious optimism surrounding the steel or
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yeah, even if this is happening and it looks like it is happening that, remember this is a phase to process this. all of this is going to be very, very fragile. as this works through the phases the, the presence elect, donald trump, making it sound like it's gonna be very, very simple. but it's not also. i mean, the 1st question i would ask them when we hear any details and we're hearing that, that may well be a press conference coming out in doha, from the country for a prime minister of foreign minister. the 1st thing i want to know is if there is a ceasefire, what time does it start? and then from that, what all the, what, all the phases, we understand there are 3 phases to this process. they are so very, very drawn out process of the, some of the leak suggest that each phase last $42.00 days. so this is not
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something's going to be completed as the present select. if those links arise as the present select said, just like that's what we do know, and the controls of this deal have been discussed for months and months and months . and the basic plan is, is pretty clear. it's the, the little details of both sides have had problems with them, particularly is ready side has had problems with and many questioning whether of the is right, the prime minister that ever really wanted a deal. but the basic premises of the deal of it's these right, these who are being held captive in gaza would be released a certain number every week because we understand it in real time that would be palestinian prisoners who are being held in his row. who would also be released and taken out, so is ready to jails. that would be a stop to is ready bombardment from the that would be a withdrawal of these riley use from the population. there is because we think
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conventionally from garza, but that will be much later stages of the deal. or james, we're talking one of the things that has changed over the last 15 months is the, the nature, if you like, of israel in the gulf region. and with regards to the fight, but over the last 50 months, it has also had military action in lebanon and syria. it's been reckoning a wrong. it's of course had military action in gaza as well as the west bank, the shape of israel, the big shape of israel's influence, if you like, is markedly different not to what it was 15 months ago. and many countries in a, in the world are going to have to adjust to the fact that that has changed. yeah, the whole region is the transform whether the situation with the israel is transformed . i'm not sure because of some of this is about these riley domestic political situation and practice and that's in yahoo. and he's coalition. and those hard line
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is that he's got in his coalition the most right wing government and israel's history. but you're right. israel has taken very brutal action in the region. it's gone to war and gaza, non stop pop from 7 days for 15 months. kelly over 46000 people. we saw from september that very heavy on the floors in lebanon. and although that has led a pulling late to, to, to the such a loss of civilian life, it has also, i think, transformed the political situation in the region. iran is now much, much weaker than it was in the region. syria is completely transformed with a new government, the in damascus. and the side regime that have been in power for 54 years, swept to side, a side having to run away to russia and lebanon. has the laws. power the
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is, is, is, is, is not what it was. they do don't have the same political power. and i think that is been shown by the fact that you now have a new president and a new prime minister in lebanon. and so i think you can look at the region now and it's a very, very different place, james, but i thank you very much. and do you guys have diplomatic editor james base talking to us from new york fair? she just mentioned, we are waiting for a statement from a conference call to minister and prime minister. so i'm home and then i'm the hung up on a couch of course thing a key role in negotiations leading up to this a ceasefire deal which seems to have been and it seems to have been agreed to just in the last hour or so. in fact, i think we can go back to james bass at new york far as trots. are playing as i say . it's a particularly key role in this. i'm gonna negotiate. sions, nevertheless, have been incredibly for, incredibly stressful, not just for content,
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but of course, for egypt as well the us and everybody else who has been involved in these negotiations. one would imagine as a sigh of relief being brief. but again, as we were mentioning to jaime mot moved our correspondent and debt obama adding alone. this is just another stage and a very long process to now this agent a long process, but yes, you right. the same mediators have been involved it throughout this long protest process. and much of the work has been done using the farm industry that and though has been done in cuts out by the government of catch all of the key players. that in many ways has been the prime minister and for ministers capital he's been, he's been taking a role in many, many of those meetings that have been taking place of egypt also involved. another key plan, of course, on the homicide is about is about who the, the political leader of hamas was, was a player in this until israel assassinated him in the summer in, in the entire,
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on a, on top of that, they'll be able to play the course of being israel when they have been prepared to go to the tools and we've had david bonnie, who is the head of most side, playing the key role from the israeli side throughout this process. but i think the thing has changed in the last few days is the fact that the us delegation is not the same. and that's because you've actually basically got to us delegations in the same time, it always was said to me that there was only ever one administration to power. and then power changes just like that on the 20th of january. what a new president is, is, is swollen and we're going to have that happening in 5 days time. but actually the trump, to email that in the hall, along with the binding team involved in these negotiations, the woodcock who's the friend of donald trump for the property dealer himself. he went to jerusalem, he had told, had
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a very frank meeting with prime minister. netanyahu used some strong language, an off to that premise and that the yahoo sent mr. bonnie. the head of both said back to dough ha! for this phase of talks and ever since then you got met breton, the gook. who is the volume mediate alone with miss the weight cost and pulse administration is the $1.00 that is going to be out of power in 5 days. the one that is coming into power in 5 days, both involved in this process. james, thank you so much. hi streams base, our diplomatic editor in new york for us. i want to bring in my one big shot off. he's all just as senior political on us. he's joining us not from doha baldwin. it seems as though in the last hour, so we may have a deal on a cease far in gaza. but again, we should reiterate, and you have been telling us this over the last few hours as we being talking. we have been here before we even had a cease fire that a short time sees far for about 15 or certainly 13 months ago,
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which then ended. we have to be very cautious about being too optimistic about what is happening. we would need to be careful about being optimistic about the implementation of the ceasefire because it's clearly a very complicated process that's going to be happening. single tediously on a number of fronts, the humanitarian, the military protocol, the exchange of prisoners and captives, and, and the movement of people back to the store homes and the distribution of humanitarian aids and medical aids and, and all the rest of it. so it's going to be a very, very complicated process and i think these really is insured, but it wouldn't be a complicated process. so that would be in control of it. now we need to remind ourselves one number of things that are key here in order to understand how we're moving forward. because we are dealing with and is there a leader?
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let's remind ourselves who is a work criminal. so he's been indicted for all practical not to by the international criminal 40 sought after by the prosecutor of the international court for waterfront. so we're talking about the war criminal, surrounded by fascist fanatics who have spearheaded this genocide again, is right. is basically for all practical method invited on genocide, and that's why the 4th accepted the case to look into it in the months and years to come. so we have a general side old criminal government to news, right. and that's going to be leading this process for going forward. is does this give you confidence? but it certainly does not give me confidence that they are in any way serious about sees why are there any way serious about the what is being of the people in gaza or for that matter in terms of the 2nd, the 3rd phase of the ceasefire. how about the future of palestine is red and
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piece of the release? clearly they are not to be trusted. and here it reminded by one statement by one of them are comprised on donald greg and he said to us, but to verify what in this case done, trust and verify. we cannot trust these raise the ups store for the patients. uh they are certainly uh not at all. um, if you're not feeling bad about what they've done, in fact, they can sit closer themselves in the most hardly a whole new using the most. and the best uh, uh, professional the hard me in the world, even though i know we're talking about tens of thousands of, of, of palestinians killed in guys on hundreds, perhaps more of thousands of casualties in the midst of all of that, if i might just had one quick remark, just tell you about the depth and the, and the horror of what is to come to point rob. we're going to be talking about
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clearing the debris and we're talking about millions of tongue stuff, debris that's going to take years upon years. but consider the fact that there's an estimate of 10 to 11000 missing people in the typically so clear and good the brand knowing that there is going to be some 10000 a spin in bed with their families and their loved ones looking spend for them this is the kind of challenge we're talking about moving forward with think, garza, this is all aside from everything i just mentioned. barrier about taking care of the living and none of that is on his agenda as from just treated. it's about the hostages for the parent about the hostages for the american ministration. it's not about the 2000000 palestinians who have been living genocide for 60 months is certainly not a bad piece of them, at least. and it's not about to such an issue. it's about some 50 for the people
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who would be released in the next 4 to 2 days, 3 or 4 weeks. that's what they're focused on, not by everything else. we've been covering the genocide in garza and one of the conditions that has been mentioned as part of the ceasefire agreement at least regard according to the details that we were getting initially from associated price because they linked them. but now i understand why does this come up with some as well, will be involving the delivery of humanitarian aid. so to come back to your point about looking off to the people in gauze and where they go from here, even shine, one would imagine to get that age into guys are given the 5 that israel is going to continue to control the lines and see board as a run, garza is not going to be an easy process. the people in gaza from what you're saying, well, not necessarily get the help that they desperately need as fast as they need it. and that is a recipe for disaster. that is the recipe for disaster because of too many and kind
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of thing is who are been living under this terrific bombardment and killing guns, slaughter, and destruction and death. the past 16 months are expecting now that there's a ceasefire for some rest by but they say is that not that out loud as they are sophistic, they are racist. and they got to make sure that the kind of thing is up, enjoy a day of joy for, you know, being free of bombings and fear on and on, so on, so forth. so yes, it's going to be on 2 levels. one, which is allowing the a then i'm 2nd, the distribution of a. now having said that threw up i think it's important to mention some of the positives for intent. say that is that as we've heard in the past hour, this is the same, did basically that was agreed upon in may by the palestinians by how much are injected by his right. and this did,
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it does insist on is that withdrawal from the, for example of definitive fi, whitehall from the starting or from the eastern part of guys of dollars and not picking one any, any, any major piece of land from guys. and, and i lowering the palestinians to move back north because there is rejected all of that. the past paid months out on for tens of thousands more people to be killed or injured. but now nothing you know is forced to accept. that's what you rejected. 8 months ago, allow them for the work to continue it extra months. and, and suggesting that the senior started incredible suffering. this is most of the heart of the matter of how criminal this problem industry is. and why the international criminal court sinks. so not that i think so the international criminal court thinks that he deliberately he and his lieutenants the number of police bar and the people in gaza. it had nothing to do with the war against come us. it's not directly that's for sure. huge simply installed
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a policy to start the people who got so by cutting a coming in. and of course, as usual, the palestinians for as of the kind of thing is, have a vested interest in stopping that people be that as it may now we have a team that was basically more or less the deed that was reached back in, in, in, in june and that on in august that they all had to accept because the drum basically told himself because he didn't one more of the same as he's not going to enjoying your toilet. that does not mean that from here on the, the what would is going the path is going to be paid with good intentions. anything but i don't trust the next coming administration of all 5 of christian scientists. i don't trust the fanatic zionist government. is there a this basically indicted on war crimes? and i don't trust those in the, in the various uh and the various surroundings i elsewhere and how they want to
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contribute to the rebuilding go gaza and for supporting a to start solution. all of that remains at best, a guessing game at best. and the 2nd, the believe is a lot of room for skepticisms about the intentions and about move to move this thing forward in order to yes on the one hand, prevent another october southern from happening by ending the occupation can think of suffering and reaching securities to base than the usual is writing a grinding words non stop. how about that, how their security comes 1st and everything else be done while one was shot, i'll just say to senior political analysts. thank you very much indeed. okay, here's what we know about the deal. so far, according to reuters is going to happen in 3 stages. the implementation of the agreement is going to be guaranteed by kata, egypt, and the us. it's going to require $600.00 truck loads of humanitarian aid, daily,
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half of them for the north. now in stage one last in 6 weeks, thomas would release 33 is very captive, including all females civilians. female soldiers, children followed shortly by the lease of men above 50 years old. in return, israel is going to free 50 palestinian prisoners, but each of females soldier, i'm 40 for each civilian captive. then israel is to release all the women and children under 19. that is to change since october 7th, 2023 negotiations on the 2nd phase. are going to begin by the 16 stay in to the 1st phase. is expected to include the release of all the remaining captives, establishment of a permanent seas far um. the complete withdrawal of israeli soldiers to the final stage is going to focus on long term arrangements, including the return of bodies of as many captives on palestinian fighters. what can i bring insults on? bought a car, he's
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a professor of public policy at home. i've been calling for university and on goal, but isn't, is very political commentator. he's joining us from tallahassee southern. i want to come to you for us. one of the things that we would just as i was going through that list that was exciting to me, was that in many ways, if everybody agrees to everything and there's a lot of trust on either side and all of this, you just fall into place. these are 2 sides of the do not trust each other, they cannot trust each other. how. how does it to monitor something like this to make sure the both side is actually doing what they agreed to do while it is hard, but it's only like, it depends on the going towards for disagreement. if the u. s. is serious about getting disagreement then with all due respect to cause, i add to egypt, they can only do very limited support because neither of them is, is, it is, is on the ground and it will take them a long time to destroy the wrong people on the ground to monitor and so on. but the u. s. is the supply line of this war. so if they are serious about guaranteeing
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disagreement, they can see it's true because they can start by turning over the top and is that in terms of supplies, cash, etc. and they can stop by providing them with intelligence. and they can stop the british from also providing, telling us on the, on behalf of those writers, us on. so there's a lot in their hands and they can do a great deal of this serious about it. and i agree with lots of motor. one was saying that we have to approach it with great deal of suspicion, but i'd be extremely surprised if trump has approached this lights have to be i think he has taken a decision. he's given the ultimatum to both sides some weeks ago. at today's writings, he did not say how to end the war, but he said, then the war to the person, you say, release the, the prisoners. so with him coming and afresh, they all know he's going to be around for at least another 4 years. he's unlike, he will not be elected for a 2nd term, so he will not take hostages really and he will be.
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