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the, the, i know not this, and this is the news our life. i'm go ha, i've a 200 gm to coming up in the next 16 minutes up to 15 months of visuals, wall and gaza size far between hom, us and israel has been reached the
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not pulling of joy and gaza, how people are reacting to use that to cease far has been agreed the. 3 have also been seen use in tele, vivas, families of captains gather. as the news emerges, the, we're going to continue with our breaking news from german, doha, after 15 months of israel's war and gaza negotiators have now reached exist far agreement. according to media report, celebrations are taking place right across does
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the to go through these a lot of pictures, it will bring you can do a lot of these,
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these things of jubilation and celebration over different parts of garza. and the last couple of hours or so since it was announced that a spot agreement appears to be reached between the israel and commerce honeywell, who is in debt, obama and central garza honey. just talked to us about the kind of atmosphere there is where you are. well as of this moment this, the celebration are still happening or taking place there more people leaving their insides of from the surrounding of the uh, the area of the vicinity of the hospice on for end of the courtyard of the hospital . it just so amazing to see the hospital right now in the morning. the courtyard of the hospitalized. the space for many of the funerals over here now or this morning . the 10 people were killed in the overnight or fox, the many of them all as a. now we're seeing a completely different as being in front of us. people are being this way,
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is it from his eyes hungry or at the hospital instead of breathing? this moment with much so happened is that excitement and much of the feeling that where's the press in the past 15 months to the point people we're not allowed to do to express any of their feelings to reprise or do more the properly their loved ones and they're rather, but now it's an opportunity for them, but it's worth mentioning as well. it's still not clear when the seeds buyer is going to take effect here. because we just seen an ambulance via go, just hold on, hold off, but inside the hospital, bringing injury is a from a fax in under refugee camp. and this is exactly the concern. now we've seen it from this time of announcement that there is an agreement and do the time that it's going to take effect. those are 24 hours are very critical times and of what we are worried about, what everybody not worried about this 5,
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that the high level of happened isn't excitement here, almost not believable. 7 they're worried that the attacks are going to increase, and more people are going to die within the coming 24 hours. that the exactly the time that this, these 5 going to take effect. but again, we're seeing a completely different, different saying here, a dramatic it change it from what happened in the morning and what is happening now . i did the fan right now. this is a bit of the celebration of many of the people that as long as we record it from here, we're seeing them here asking us questions, talking about where the end of the war is talking about. the end of the bar is bent . this particular man, lift it up by the people who are happen is one of the displays. people who are we have been an encounter with mazda is part of his family who lost his home and been staying in the hospital. so during, for the past month, most of what they are thinking right now are just all the words that express,
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do you happen to have done that you for you to be on the internet right now. it's repeating itself across defense from the area. and then sides in the 3 and here in the hospital. but what's really interesting now is that the change, the dramatic change of being here, are late in the morning, many of the funeral, not through the sat this. now it's completely different. people are happy and excited and hoping for the best in the coming dollars. how do you this was pointing, i was of course, the, as you write things say, the spar has not officially started yet, and one would imagine there is going to be concern. despite the celebrations that there are so many people gathered in various places across garza, that of course the attacks may be continuing. you mentioned there is that there is an attack we understand from the in the setup refuge account.
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yes, absolutely. um. all right, now what we're seeing is more of a sudden reaction to 15 months of all on going mass bombardment to the point people did not believe they're going to survive it. but just remember their initial weeks of the, of this genocide is really the official, the political levels, the military level. is you'd many of the statements that express sentiments that were very genocide though that does not leave any one in any positive hope that this is going to end or that they are going to be alive just the pa funds have approve. and what does really military meant not only the ongoing bombardment and the daily feeling by the hour, but also many of the restrictions that imposes people know, you'll know water, no medical supplies, the food supplies, part of the guns trip went hungry and forces starvation, excuse me,
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in force as far vision and force the hydrogen bomb, and that is from the northern part of the script. people is starting to look in areas where waste is being as well and looking for food and many of the hungry children. people died of hypothermia and the old where's, where's are not all the, from the on the predictable bonds that all of the last, because nobody believe that this is going to come on and, and everyone would go by the end of the day being thankful that made it through the day went to sleep, not sure if they are going to wakes up. and this happens to almost everyone. here's many of the time we showed up here at the end. we did not know if we're going to make it back in the evening. our homes and come back in the morning because of the intensity of the situation. it's friday. thanks very much. indeed. that's how many boxes you're talking to say a phone number of ok let's,
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here's more reactions from java on the report. so this is far, these last 100. my good. we are very happy that this crisis sap and this bombing, i'm happy to us, is finding the number we will return to our home towns under ton to a family. great news garza, i'm to move and see our family to remain to life and see all lives with tons of all old lives and be happy and live lucky use to mazda n. o is an award winning piece octave. this is parents with children. we moved to bert 7 for tax is joining us now from video media in israel. thank you very much indeed for being with us. first of all, what's your reaction to this means? it's better a native deliver. it's too late for my parents to make their full doesn't thousands of people named guys that whole thousands do peace rallies. and this is exactly what the encoding seems of the savings for seeds for an immediate cease fire for indeed, and to for the beginning of
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a peace process. and i'm very happy with a all those that a can, they would be able to sleep a quiet to night and those those that will go back to the families. and i'm was the very sense of those that the deed to a full then we still don't get no find exactly the cease fire is going to be put into place. and we understand, of course, that these really government is going to be holding a vote on this. so as far find on thursday, there are still many areas which i switch this cruise folder. are you confident that this these far crude holes on the caps is? should be returned in exchange for palestinian prisons a yeah. and by the by that will be will be for few. i know the promise is that the being made now by a with leaders a will be for the field and, and that the and the ceasefire. and it being uh, we last week and yes, is there any,
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do any cds in the human being as it be such a i guess this is the only thing i can hope for is through the end of the week. and then this will be the last pull in the region. we cannot stop in and fees for it. we must start thinking, lucian, we must have been marching, put in for the region. we might be a been think a guys out there when he stopped. when do a few patients each time to bring peace, the security for those lead from the forty's ready for the reading that we had enough of stuff for reading really not for you want to leave it? no, but like you guys in any way, the quantity and piece for that to happen. of course there has to be trust on either side and particularly of course, not just for the last 15 months of conflict that we've seen and guys have but for
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decades of items that we've seen between israel and a pot of stadiums that trust will be virtually non existent, how is it? do you think that these readings and palestinians can go from where we are now to rebuilding some sort of understanding some sort of common ground of trust where they could at least agree to live side by side. humanity is proven before that we can rise to nations looking derived from the ashes, the new robust through the 2nd level. and they found the nation of the you realize that the motor vendor next will they might, they must make the ending you've defined into the future. we have the 7, did you 7 nation where those nation forth against each other, you just taken will do fine. you're going to germany, but the other side kind of that us english in front. and now, only a few years ago,
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what would you see me as one kids in the g 7. so you might have huge sony that box any money to my children again. and again, that piece would preview, and we are the people who are you leaving from the see. we cannot, we cannot that we cannot to do. we must do everything to prove it, take it in here, and there is no better place than to pursue. they find use of humanity, denny norman, and you promised men, and that united humanity can be united any stein for making noise in a word grateful to you for joining us. and i'll just do so. thank you very much. indeed . thank you. well, as media reports and knowledge of it seems far being achieved. and guys that families have as many captors have gathered in tel aviv demonstrate as a calling for the release of is mainly captives held in the strip. and these are the seems live and it tell of eve, right?
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not of honda. so who's joining us from amman, and that's because israel signed or just data from operating in the country. and to what extent is it appearing in the media that this pressure that we've seen from the families and friends of those being held in guys a has contributed in some way to the cease fire deal that we upon play. see not well, before we get into that, let's talk about some statements we've received just in the last couple of minutes from these really prime ministers office. and for me is really military who's now coined an operation, quote, wings of freedom and getting ready to receive is really captives will be releasing da da as part of this deal when it's confirmed to the prime minister's office. however, releasing a statement, i'm going to quoted for you here, quote, due to the strong insistence of prime minister netanyahu. i'm us, pull that on. it's the last minute demand to change. the deployment of is really forces in the philadelphia core door. however, several items in the framework have yet to be finalized and that they are hoping
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that that'll be finalize tonight, which goes to show you why perhaps this press conference has still been delayed. however, it is worth mentioning that up until this point it'd be, is really media has been quite positive and not just cautiously optimistic within the last couple of hours going so far as to confirm that there has been a deal. but let's talk about that pressure that has been put on the prime minister . it's come from all different directions, not just from those who wanted to deal, but also from those who don't want it. there's actually going to be a vote tomorrow in these really security cabinets on this deal when it is announced in order to ratify it and approve it on these rarely side. but there are still some obstacles for benjamin netanyahu, and that is who on the far right of his coalition, is going to agree and who is going to vote against it. there have been ministers who said that they would leave the governments and they would topple the coalition . if this deal went into place. it's also important to note that, well,
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we're talking about this deal. the leaks are reporting 3 phases $42.00 days each, but it's still unclear if it's an ultimate end to the war. because previous red lines that have been given by is really official said that they did not want him into the war until all of their military objectives and goals had been achieved. but there are some is really officials who's said the way this deal is outlined. the way the framework is set up would make it much more difficult to for the is really government including this and yahoo to go back to any sort of fighting because of how the deal is worked out. so there's been pressure on all sides. there are constant pray tests through all over israel before and against the deal, but when we talk about the family members of is really captive the, bring them back now movement. this is the large print test movement that has been demonstrating for more than a year against benjamin netanyahu, whose government, and these protest i might, that had split. they weren't just calling for an end to the war they were calling
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to over throw benjamin netanyahu. they were calling for a new government saying that he was neither capable nor willing to accept a deal because there's a large school thought still to this day in israel. but benjamin this and young pro long the war for his own personal and political game. and while all signs are pointing that we are at the finish line, these really prime minister's office is releasing statements, but they're not willing to give up on certain issues, including the philadelphia board door. and just to remind our viewers, this is this strategic cord, or israel talks about that is the southern border of garza, that has the flat border crossing along it. and it's also adjacent to the kind of a boost in, in crossing as well. so when it comes to this pressure on this and young shortly, he has wanted this deal. now because of the intensified pressure from the americans from the incoming president, donald trump. but just in the last several months, it was really the case every time we talked about a deal, b is really a good point to figure out how much,
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how much we point the finger at these really. it was a lot of back and forth up until this point, but make no mistake. after 467 days of war, the palestinian people are exhausted. these things they have gone through the un un secretary general has said that there is no ceiling to the suffering that has been felt in dogs, that there is no bottom to the horrors that they have experienced at the hands of the is really military. so all signs are pointing to this deal. we're still waiting for that official announcement by mediators. but this has happened with mediators throughout the last months have been scrambling to try to get both sides to the table, to agree on something. let's not forget to several months ago, the mediators had released a joint statement saying that they wanted a serious effort by both parties to come to the table because they weren't stealing that. but this time around was certainly different. benjamin netanyahu dispatched his top negotiators the head of the most odd, but headed position that the representative from these really military 4,
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altogether the negotiating table, the last time this happened was august of 2024. so it gives you an idea that this time around all parties were serious, and the mediators are still right now with this. now we're working to finalize the my new shot that is still disagreed upon because this deal is seeming imminent from both sides of the what's here here, take a at least as far as the media reports are concerned in, in israel with regard to trying to get tremendous here in a, in, at some point to integrate is, are we understand that there's an estimation that should be about 600 bucks a day or something that i was supposed to get in. but at the same time, we know that there has been supplies sitting outside guys, or for months, many of which are being spoiled on route. and because they can sitting outside in the sun over the the summer and then to the table months as well. is there any indication want, if israel is acknowledging hits responsibility and unloving, that you're going to save and it is well,
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not just yet, but the leaks according to is really media in american media as well. have shown that it would allow up to $600.00 trucks per day. i mean, you're talking about a population who has been starved to, has been accused by top international bodies of using starvation as a weapon of war against the palestinian people. and let's not forget rhetoric that was used by his really officials when these war started a complete siege on gaza saying that they were dealing with quote, human animals. but they didn't want any water, any electricity, any power, any sort of goods going into the palestinian territory. you have a place with more than 2000000 people who are essentially stranded with no sort of medical lifeline there. that infrastructure has basically all been destroyed by these really military. so the a that would go in is going to be live saving of course. and it's going to be on
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a much larger scale than what we've seen during the war. and in fact, at a certain point in the war, there were no trucks going into the north. and it was said that israel is using this method to try and circle how much using this kind of supplication method where they would have no choice but essentially to surrender. and that's also one of israel's military objectives, is to ensure that m as no longer has power militarily or politically. and they say that's something they still want to achieve. honda, thank you very much indeed. honda. so who they're talking to this is from amman, about here with me. and joe has martin griffith of the un under secretary of general for humanitarian affairs and the emergency relief, closer to southern bank account, as well as professor of public policy and how many colleagues university. and we also have done, perry is a former regional editor of associated press. and then these are also offer of ask questions later. subsidize newsletter. he's joining us from tennessee martin. i want to come to you for us to pick up from the point that we were talking to hum to
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about the celebrations. one thing we still don't know, find this, these 5 is actually going to come into effect. technically the fighting is still continuing, but it is vitally important that makes you mandatory an aide is allowed, and then israel does have a responsibility as an occupying power to a lot of that in. but how confident can people be that that aid is going to get into guns as well? the 1st thing i'd say, rob, is that, as, as is often repeated the darkest hours before dawn. and let's hope there will be a door that's hope we get an announcement. and the celebrations, which i celebrate to as you do with the people the gaza, will be realized. so that's one thing and actually have a moment to set up right before we go into the worries that we have discussed. a 2nd, please. uh, yes is right. has his responsibilities as an occupying power. it would seem to me in this potential agreement that they have abdicated from zach in the sense that
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from that in the sense that they are going to drawback ideally out of gaza, they're going to allow the flow of aid. it would need to be d conflicted with the idea anymore for the launch an agency is you know, now that could be a good thing because the idea has been a considerable impediment on the delivery of a does your know. but it also means that the, the, the stock chaos of guns and the criminalization which i think is perfectly understandable under the circumstances. it's going to empty, but it's going to impede a even more. and as you know, when you talk about criminalization who's talking about the things that we've seen of games with engage, advisor trumps will be moving in. they've been taking the 8 that tries to try and i think it's, it's not, it's not unexpected, but it's going to have a free hand now, which is why is there something earlier? i think the police supposed to police need to be ramp out. but here's the problem.
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in my view is the 600 trucks. a great incentive. we've seen this before. we've seen this movie before and the 1st spot, but the butch need unreachable. humanitarian agencies talk to me about the possibility of having 250 trucks. is it like trucks bought from anything else? doesn't mind the impediments of chaos and communications with you? and what worries me about this, as you might turn, is that i didn't want us to be the full guys for this deal. we should not be used as an alibi for faded upon which we weren't even consultant. i coach and to get the idea that they should be a huge incentive of a god knows that people deserve it and always up to that. but it needs to be progressively built up. and that's one of the things that i think we need to look at in the implementation. and so to, and we've been talking before about the guarantors of this deal, one of which is the us that seems to be
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a consensus that amongst the guarantors for us, that is going to carry the greatest amount of, of weight, if you like, in maintaining this given to find that there is a trump administration coming into the relationship, the transactional relationship that we have seen that donald trump has developed in the past in his presidency. how do you think he is going to act as guarantor to israel's behavior? and i think he has enough on his agenda domestically to start with. and he has also a number of international conflicts to the, the way that he has already won the presidency on the promise of stopping wars as much as possible. he's also strategically minded to go off to china and much bigger fish to fry globally. so he has already given that ultimatum to the 2 sides to the other thing is to release the, the captives and today's rating system, the one over he never really specified to it then. yeah, well, in what way you stop the war. he could have one, it's nothing you know,
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but you could, but she was not able to do it. you tried to was then he intensified his bombardments. he went after lots of areas, civilians were killed. this one, which was unable to achieve his military objective, is complex said there's no way out, but the negotiated settlement with how much it. so i think that in itself has now which i'm in a position where he needs to listen to tom. we know from that from his last presidency. tompkins to be very sensitive to, to issues and could take it personally if it's in. yeah. who lets him down now, he can take it to the, as a person attack against his character for some reason. and he will really show, and it's a no hard time, particularly given that season in, in his info for years. and there's not gonna stand for elections again, so he's not reliant anymore on the need. and if the supplies and or the support of the as a low be, then i states, so i think i'm,
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i'm hopeful that she will come in. it was like a more measured way and he will ensure that this at least the 1st 2 stages of the cease fire respected. and of course, in those 2 stages is where it has a lot of states in the sense that it would wait until the release of its last soldier before maybe ap is suggesting that the loss is too complicated to, to be at you. but what torres me really is the idea of the, in the food that you want me to and assistance as a condition for the seats, for, i mean, in principle, who was the assistance of the i'm conditional and it should have been the from the very beginning as it should not be tied to any negotiation, to be honest. and what's also worrying is up to now we haven't heard anything about the 2 triggers that started the war backend server on the 7th october and how much the attack they quoted a lot. so most as one of the issue, and it's named by lots of land, there has been no talk about what will happen to the left. some of those will,
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there's railways, observe and respect the sovereignty on the policy is over to you. and then you're getting a decision on some of the, in a proper way. and nothing has been said about the assessments and this is another trigger. back then, they were normalizing relations between the civilian states of israel and the suffering in some other way. there was an exceed the settlements in directly. so these 2 issues are not being addressed. it's very unlikely that this will lead to a long term resolution of the issue between, between the 2 sides. and as you saw how much has proven to be those areas until the last week, they killed 50 soldiers in the last couple feet in the north of gas, as has been devastated spring displays, and people with bras back having the filter the few times. so to be able just to inspect so much time on israeli soldiers, is a big deal done probably, i want to bring you in at this point in the, in terms of,
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of israel's responsibilities. we're talking about the 1st 2 stages will involve the return of captives to israel and the in exchange for public spending prisoners after that point. is there an argument for saying that israel's interest, if you like in maintaining this seems bar, starts to, to start to whether away? because essentially, israel benjamin netanyahu will have achieved what he wants you to achieve. he's returned the captives to their families and the interest will then wait, that we haven't actually seen the full terms of the agreement. but if reports be believed, then israel will, in fact not get back all its hostages until it pulls out of gauze are and essentially, essentially ends the war. i think um, i think at the end of the day is this is a, an edifice of an agreement, the kind of what has been resistance for, for much of the past year and the,
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by the ministration to try to impose as best a good on the to know as well, and then sales i, i would not expect, as mr. berry kind of alluded himself for donald trump to, to look kindly upon and everybody is able to get out of implementing the 2nd. the 3rd phase of the deal that said, the agreements does include the notion of negotiating certain mobility. so obviously there's ample opportunity for both of us and for israel to create the impediments that bring the whole deal pressure to the ground. but you have to understand in israel, the discourse around this is that the world will end and exchange for the hostages . that sounds being understood that is supported by probably 3 quarters of the people that are supported by probably half at least if nothing else is on voters, it will be, it will be difficult. it will be complex for him to,
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to try to walk away from this. i, i in fact would expect him to try and make the most of the try to.

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