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for much of the past year and the bite ministrations and try to impose as best a good on the to know as well. and then sales i, i would not expect as mister america deluded himself or donald trump, to me to look kindly upon. uh, and everybody is able to get out of implementing the 2nd, the 3rd phase of the deal that said the agreements does include the notion of negotiating certain mobility. so obviously there's ample opportunity for both of us and for israel to create the settlements that bring the whole deal pressure to the ground. but you have to understand in israel, the discourse around this is that the world will end and exchange for the hostages . that sounds being understood that is supported by probably 3 quarters of the people that are supported by probably half at least if nothing else is on voters, it will be, it will be difficult. it will be complex for him to try to walk away from this. i,
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i, in fact would expect him to try and make the most of that to try to interest the people that he got something out of trump in return, maybe, uh for your hand and spending settlements in the west bank. so things of that nature. uh the thing, yeah. who managed to keep the word go in for 15 months and that has preserved his government because uh because the right wing flanking is government and did not want it to end. and indeed still does not. i think at this point, not expect them to, to the, to a new strategy where he, where he builds a narrative that says that it's an exchange for all the for all the low for the price. israel has paid in many ways for this 50 months of war. the result has been a grand strategic victory that includes course the restoration of his ball and living on of the implicitly is a partial call sequences that the illumination of the subversion in syria and the
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great teaching of a less than 2 to hum awesome very as hell saying rejections i, i would, um, there isn't a norm this mixed the missed opportunity here. if indeed it is the case. the culture is what that's in the household. a wall street journal as late as of last month. israel as the war while leaving a mouse in charge and goes up. that is something that is something that when the joy over the return of the hostages, and indeed the end of the war subsides. we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll make things awkward for nothing. yeah, we're self and, and i, i personally think is a tremendous misfortune from people who've gone to most of them. i suspect no more want to be ruled by on us. that has brought this catastrophe upon them. the same, anyone in your studio or, or that idea of the they were supposed to, i want, i want it was more than good. forgive me for interrupting you. but i want to ask
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more than just as you have experience in negotiating spot agreements and one of the things that a is a problem to what people engage in israel, but particularly, and gosh, i need to have a stability leads to military. and as you mentioned, at one point to me before the new hosting in order to have that to be the case, they need that stability. they will need some sort of political process in order to be able to make that happen. longer time. briefly, what's your sort of idea of the, the best working the best process politically or guys are going forward? i think it's a, it's just a fundamental question because there's all the skepticism and older hope and older celebration. disagreement as far as we know doesn't to address the fundamentals at the end stage. and i think there are 2 things that comment on one, as we discussed before is the moment right now got the whole goal is a complex has not been famous for transparency. that has never been
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a sufficient investigations by the idea of the very various killings. there's been a lot of propaganda on all sides. we understand that in well that's happened a given that disagreement is going to have massive opportunities for breaches. and eventual propaganda are about termination that is so important. and that the onus on cats are in egypt in particular, us in a very different way. it's going to be massive. so i would want the people are gonna have to know what's going wrong, rather than to hear it as a declaration from capitals. because that will feed in to the opportunity on a political process that i think the best thing that i understand, you know, i'm one who believes and published and in governance. i believe it's a fundamental principle of people's to be governed by themselves and by their own people. i don't believe security is assured by occupation by others, or governance by others as some do. but what that means is that we have to have the
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transitional period fall to honda. how mazda of talking, that's huge, the important, thank you, china and others for that egypt closer. but we're not there yet. and we have a published in units or 2, which has been undermined and on to funded and derided for good and bad reasons and they are not there yet either. so we have to have a transitional period with da to reinstate the 2 state solution of the post. and then government governance, which is of course understandable, disagreement is that they have not discussed it. i think they've didn't specifically said they don't want to discuss it because it's too difficult and it would bring the agreement that i get that i get that you don't want to overload an agreement. but it's crucial. and none of the reporting that we've heard. and so to, and there's this much better than me behind the scenes of what certain power is a cooking up for the big nights and people, the palestine are all against that. so the big trail that, of course, people,
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the palestine already feel about the and such community is going to be redoubled. if we don't get this right. so this deal could go wrong on demand terminate. it could go wrong and preachers, it could go wrong and security, it could go wrong and gangs. but if it goes on this, it's a deal breaker. lodgings with it's done, perry, intel, of the southern bought a cap. thank you, old very much indeed. yes, present me that donald trump has commented, saying quote, we have a deal for the hosted is in the middle east today will be released shortly. thank you. it's been an international reaction to the media reports of the seas. 5 deal. senate democratic leader, chuck schumer, welcome to deal let me begin by speaking of the recent news of a ceasefire agreement in the middle east. i have good news. i have just been informed by the administration that
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a deal has been agreed to. it is welcome news that there is an agreement that will free many of the hostages a ceasefire is very good news for israel, for america, for the palestinian people, and particularly for the hostage families who have waited so long in agony on the line that has come up from the voyages and use agency as saying allegedly that's a is ready for us is we'll be getting the withdrawal from the philadelphia, colorado, and complete it. no later than day 50. we're going to try and establish whether or not some of the background is to that. but in the meantime, there's go to a diplomatic attitude james base. he's live for us in new york, a lot of countries around the world going to be watching this very, very closely because not least, because after 50 months of conflict and guys are, we're seeing a very different type of israel now 70 existed at the start of the concept to yeah, absolutely. well, i mean there are still,
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i think lots and lots of questions about this deal and we don't even know the start time or start date. it's also worth noting that there is the seems to be still legal because it hasn't been formally announced with that press conference and co haul yet. i think it's interesting that niggles seems to come from these railey side and seems a game to be about the, for the delphi card. or remember that's the buffer zone at the very south of the gaza strip that area. that is right. the forces of hope in occupying incense, if you go back to what of this deal was, 1st thing the go see a see a back in may and june of some of last year when present bite and came out and said that there was a proposal he said time is really proposal but then that proposal was torpedoed by his riley's, israel's own addictions. objections apartment is the less and you know, who they, what to do with the philadelphia, cordless of some of the seems to be coming up full circle at this stage. of course,
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you've got those amazing scenes that missing of people in the gulf strip right now . celebrating by towards like they have no electricity. uh, they have little food. they have little water. there is relief. there's 46000 people over 46000 people who being killed as was telling you rob that when the deal was 1st selected. and it's basically the same deal. present button is admitted that when the deal was 1st floated by president biden saying, it was ready proposal that was 36000 people being killed. so an extra $10000.00 people who didn't have to die have died in that 6 month period. they're going to be also many countries who are watching very closely to see whether both sides adhere to their part in disagreement. the monitoring this is going to be very difficult. i would imagine the un particularly is going to be paying very close attention to this not least, of course, because israel has banned the you ends agency for helping palestinians on
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a yeah, i mean, i think the you and already the very interesting position. i'm well thank going to do now going forward. it was, we know part of the deal is that a to is going to be allowed and then that is absolutely vital getting a across causal, particularly to northern garza, which has had a know that siege underway. and nothing's going to matter tool effectively of full force such a long period of time. but the problem is, you say, is that the main un agency that can distribute the site is on the wrong. and that's is the, uh, the un agency that deals with palestinian refugees of israel is withdrawn its cooperation with unwritten. i just got a panic from i'm from is ready to treat in just a matter of days time. the 28th of january's when that comes into force under then probably wouldn't be able to operate. so there are going to be huge challenges in delivering that. and a huge, huge challenges i think for the un,
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which wants to have a central role in what happens, all of the conflicts. will they be allowed? any such ro? it's interesting. the president trump, you mentioned he has been on truth. so social tweet, tweeting in a subsequent tweet said that he's now going to assume things with peace through strength. and then he wants to expand what he called the historic abraham a cause you remember that some arab countries that did piece deals with israel, led to believe, you know, to the roots a suggestion, maybe the saudi arabia could be brought into the abraham because that's certainly what israel wanted before october the 7th, but just look at the recent comments from the saudi side of from, from, from the leadership the for the 1st time, just a few days ago they were using the word genocide about what's going on in gaza. i mean, it's a very interesting diplomatic situation going forward. in many ways,
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israel is stronger in the region of to what it is dining cause of what it has done . again, the people above the took place and leveling the changes of pallets in syria. but it was so i think it faces the great deal of difficulty in the region of the boot, tennessee that it's used. james, thanks very much. indeed. as i did the magic editor james bass talking to us from new york. she just remind viewers, if you're just joining us, we're waiting for the press conference that we're expecting from process for the minister. i'm prime minister, she's my home and then i'm the one of funding from for the ministry here in joseph fox out of obviously has played a key role alongside others in negotiations that have brought us to this point where that appears to have been a ceasefire deal agreed for a gaza, which will allow a longer term process, possibly leading to a permanent ending of facilities in guys how we're going to go to modeling the shauna. i'll just need a senior political analyst. he's joining us from a deal for james was just referring there to that kind of language that has been
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changed diplomatically over the last 15 months, particularly with regard to add to is real. what's your assessment of how globally is lee israel is regarding a given what has happened. one would imagine not just over the 50 last 15 months, but in the previous decades as well. the world is fed up with is no that's in short including is there as our lives are filled up with is right. i think is there a to be not somebody make a it's a good lunch one. what else or another. and even though some support is right and as a refuge for the jewish people after the holocaust, and these who go so that is their end democracy in the middle of the muslims and so on, so forth on fed up, especially with this custody of the month i'm pretty business and you know, governments, since 2009, the longest serving is ready for our minister had been leaving,
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meeting his ride from one more to another one tumble. so another one quarter auction. so another ending up being award carolyn of sought after by the international come the ports meaning is around 2 ident inside of water. now sort of started by the international court of justice. so you could say that even it's his allies would not want to receive him at this point in time, at least most of them because he's for so it's so i think in short, the world is fed up with his right hand. it's wars and his genocide it's crimes and so on, so forth. even though some of its closest allies, my goal is to say, say, london, washington continued to defend. that brings reason rob. if i move to a discussion you had earlier, but i thought it's probably good to clarify something very, very important about where the drum is and what he's going forward. i just want to share with you mike to send somebody on this. look, i've said the past few days that he does have bigger things to fry as of where,
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where there's china, russia, even greenland and platinum. i can live and canada, and mexico and trade and all the rest of it. picking america great again. and yes, he's not as of declared zionist like by that but, but he was getting his 40 years, one of the greatest supporters of is an it system or through i to just now moving back to the white house, we need to really be careful about how we judge them just because he strong arm nothing you know into the ceasefire because he wants to get the hostages out. these really awesome just not the palestinian also just the 10. so is there any hostages? not the 10s of thousands of pursuit and hostages out. does it mean he suddenly found reason? i'm not, he's finding justice and peace in his spit. he remains a staunch supporter of his art because his base is a scar,
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strong support of his right. let's look quickly at his important appointments. here's the best that was read. mike huckabee is one of the most fanatic christian designers that exist. and he's already been calling for an extension of the in the west bank. and he goes to the west bank d and somebody else. he does not continue to be occupied. his national security star advisor, my quotes, the 1st thing, what his agenda is normalization of 3 solid yet. so the idea and general side that he thinks the most important thing, and then this is the push that but i'm a forward to new frontiers between is on. so the other guy, and he thinks that a movie should be made about the page. here is a fair, meaning the criminal is really a action and that, but non leading to the uh, you know, the explosion of tens of thousands of thousands that either of the pages in another communication devices in the hands of we don't know whom 11 i need to think because
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by law active and then of course you have have you have his secondary state, my to be a who's also again, an incredible strong support device. right? so to say moving forward, expect that from a to my session to be as supportive as is right and more so why do i say more? so i have a feeling go on. and i want to share that again with our viewers around the world. that once this thing is over, if it is of a who are in guys i, there's a ceasefire. i think probably trump is going to be of the wording is read with the record now using future annexations endorsement. that's what's gonna happen. i think that's where the deal is to be and that's why the likes of smart rich nothing . yeah. who's fight? finance minister has been deliberating and now he's finding the accepting the ceasefire. did after rejecting the past whatever you know, 8910 months. because apparently after the discussion with infinity,
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all i will might guess, my educated guess is nothing. yeah. trump is that it because i've signed on this thing. i wouldn't reward you later on. we reward nothing, you know and is right for excepting deceased by it for prospecting. his when on the question of 65 and 30 so hostages, because i think in that weeks, months and years to come, a tom quite a bit of whitening is right. and with many how much supports including endorsed by i've said for the past 816, i wonder if you forget me. i'm going to interrupt you because i want to take our viewers to press conference is being held here in the hall by colors for the minister and prime minister. dates with the state of katara. egypt and the united states are going through a sop and now into the success of designs and me, jason as the spot they still comes, i think as a sort of has reached that being on this. what i would say the slab of what is in a ziploc bag and
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a jap dave's in order to establish 15 supply out of permanency side. so in addition to the delivery of intense relief aids in to all abroad, that's in guys this trip. but i would see it here at the i would say it's, i would like to extend our appreciation to our parts, us in a different united states, namely, so that the u. s. elect involving mr. steve, what's cultural and shelton and the middle east, north east coordinator, and they started bright bucket for their extensive effort. that's what has ended in a breakthrough. and these negotiations, the change option fall through this the i'm all the thanks the, the web team. and so it has excellent to minnesota, has on the side who contributed to you and was the last day come and plot that shave with their, the godaddy account that boss in order to lead to this, the more of us as both the parties still conflict and both the parties,
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the negotiation, operates agreement to all the implementation measures have been on and out. so nice it a. and the last of this, the a and 10 measures wouldn't be taken within the is there any government to photo language the dean will come into effect on sunday, january 19th. the zeal waterfall beside the will be announced that later on the states as to the details of the deal, the 1st phase which extends over 42 days we'll see as sees fly it. and the little one of the as a to forces away from the populated area. i'm going to a station on the boat, the line all around the guys a strip and the present. or is that a captive? so will be swept on. so the bodies and remnants of the deceased will be as wide model and the displace were louder 10 and also the exit of this one did. and the patient's on payment to fit in a will be in pennsylvania delivered at the largest scale all across guys,
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us threats to heat the house. as we deal with manhattan problem centers, bank it is 7 defense centers and we'd be happy to take on. so all the facilities required for the display sort of thing. home, maybe those who have the 1st phase is how may i ask what it is. 133 is a captives include, including the women and soldiers and don't have my old age on. so a and a 10 for a certain number of but a standing end of date and he is behind his right above the details of the 2nd and 3rd phase where you be agreed upon. as the 1st phase comes in to implementation, the state of got to read today. so that both of boxes, so it's commit to the end company to the, to the implementation of what was the 3 phases and all the to stay that way for them. and further bloodshed, those theaters that age and put on to the exacerbation and, and always the 30th of lasting these states. of course, i will continue to work as dante with egypt and then i did states on,
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in order to install it on guarantee the implementation of those needs by both parties and they all know their obligations. so it allows all the phasers because we look forward the new old, the reason on global efforts to be the fade in order to continue to deliver to the delivery. so to, to deliver that any paid and allow the display civilians and guides that sort of thing. hope guys that god side will spend no effort supporting the damaged families on the world. what is necessary to as of yet the flight of the by the stadium, be with them since october a is we have not span as we continue to follow up and closely monitor the name late on the need to save a place where a line is the emitter of content and all those and work a day and night and all of that. today's the to this moment, as we succeeded in a permanent throws and november last with a number of days i ended captive them kind of thing and they didn't ease with slab . we continue to work the last day helping 32. and then to the blog said, brings award to an end that is total held in to that age and then bring peace and
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stability and security to the agent and, and better for you. it's up to the commons in that a series of meetings continued with both the parties still conflict and today we have rates this moment, this moment it is yet the beginning, and the responsibility is placed on both us, all those supported by the international community in order to do to the safe. so this, with our own, all the efforts would be sent out in the coming phase. i would like to extend thanks and our appreciation to all our agents and global part does, we'll offer extended or support in these efforts. but from day one on till this moment, this point to where we need to the knowledge and conclusion i would like to mention to our brand doesn't cause us to have that the states of contact will continue to provide all necessities support the punish danny and people that are in sims, this is on the the prudent directive handed down by his royal highness. the middle
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scots are closely monitored with the photos operates and all are seen by the cuts. it also says by the grace of god almighty, we'll have rates baseman defiance. then we hope that this will be the end of the dock topped off warm and then the cost with we paid to both parties to make and on all the terms and conditions of the data and continue with the implementation of all of the measures as detailed in the agreement with the state of contact with continue to work with dorothy with their part with their partners in order to ensure that this is tony implemented and be sure to come to the betterment and stability is their story and gets us today. then we will not abandon our brothers in guys this trip. we opened up lots of woodson. the payment is delta had came from sky news. congratulations. this is a huge movements. you, as you say, have been working on this deal for so many months and the question is,
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why now, why be some moments and was at pressure from the incoming trump administration that got over the line. thank you. well, thank you very much. the for this question, actually we've been raising the question of the life moment for the entire period since the collapse of, of the 1st is uh, but we have cnn momentum that started to build in the last month. and we kept pushing for that working together very closely with our partners. and i can say that what we have seen from the us in the past few days, seeing a cooperation time sending both administration was a clear demonstration for the commitment of the us to each to that didn't. and i really would like to think uh, both the invoice who, who are here with us in the last couple of days. and they paid a bite to roll in and reaching uh to this moment. and of course,
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uh for a sudden, egypt, this is something that we are a stakeholder and in that conflict that we have to do with and we have to help and support. but we have seen the steps that's being taken recently from the us has as you, the, to this moment cnn very much indeed in to see if we can to some from cnn, congratulations to you and see what coffee was uh, will say here in the room um, how much confidence do you have for the deal? we'll progress beyond phase one. so or when we have faced the becky that's brought us to this moment and i think that's that's the most important product that we all committed. we would continue to do everything we can,
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everything possible to, together with our process to ensure that this deal is implemented as it's agreed and this data will bring us peace. hopefully at the end of it, i believe that's the towards depends on, on the policies of the agreement and acting in good faith. and that's i agreement in order to ensure that no corrupts happening to that to kind of just follow up what make an incentives are in place to ensure laws that me decide breaks the si, fi there is a follow up because in that egypt, katara and, and us are going to handle, it would be placed in a title, and this follow up actually, it would be a joint team from the city countries. that's where you bought it to the implementation of the agreement and everything is being i give you the phone and would it be in a place hopefully on the day of fixing fusion. thank you. thank
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you, bye minister. congratulations and mills for reuters. can you talk a little bit more about this? follow up mechanism if, if the elements of the agreement put in place tonight are violated, what will happen? who is it that is going to report and that, that, that a violation has happened? and how will that violation be communicated to the parties of the world? the, the guarantor is of a disagreement. thank you with this is, this is what i have just mentioned to becky. that is that a would it be a follow up? make an ism, that's so all of the parties would it be placed in egypt and they would have thought all the implementation of the agreement that would it be a reporting mechanism for any evaluation and those violations would it be addressed at the very early stage? look, we expect from the parties to idea of to that agreement, we expect to the fault is to uh, to stay committed to what they have committed themselves to and, and that's
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a good he meant. but we know that these kind of, of agreements are very complex. and we'll have some issues down the line and we are ready and we are, we're, we're stay committed to address those, those issues that had the prime minister just as a, as a follow up. the, the, the, the last truce that was in place in november 2023 did fall apart on the 8th day. what has changed in disagreement that will ensure that this has less likely to fall apart than that agreement? it was, what is the agreement on november was to build the momentum in order to lead for a longer term agreement which we have today. but unfortunately, the agreement in november was very transaction out of. so it's was it like a day by day. but disagreement has a clear mechanism for the 1st $42.00 days, and that is a clear to me and kind of them to negotiate. phase $2.00 and $3.00 and all of the details of the agreements will be published in the next couple of days. once the details are finalized to start the digital, that'll be
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a full question model for the dimensions. so when i have, you'll have to coordinate a number of questions. the 1st one was this, the establish at present and the ceasefire. we, in other words, are the guarantee is sufficient to ensure that these ladies will not have their obligations under days. medina? another question from this moment the up to sunday have the situation on the ground and guys would be lo, klein. the 3rd question, what led to the success of negotiations and what role did come to play and what throne when they play in the coming back on the days i am lost in detail. this was please remind me of the 1st question though. when, how do you have to have the model when they say, the last thing you can do is have to ask them that cease fire. and so that's enough from the bed on the side of it and been missed the the can see it how that it with a spec to.
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