should and its replacement bind administration that does not want to have to deal with the middle east crisis. the moment it enters the white house and certainly not one with that goes of jimmy carter and where you still have the american hostages being held at least it really is that simple and to suggest that and buy them as a moving force behind this is indeed a joke, the won't just be the us, what signal monitoring the implementation, of course, it will be egypt and castle and does that make sense? obviously, been the global community and indeed the un. so israel will be under the spotlights at this stage to push through with a permanency is fine. at one level, what you're saying is entirely correct. but we've been here before, for example, with the oslo accords. and that was considered too important to fail because it was seen as providing an opportunity for a durable and last thing, the lease piece. well, we saw what happened there. and again, the main reason was the failure,

or rather the refusal of the united states to mobilize its leverage to ensure is really compliance with those agreements. and here again, you're entirely right. the world would like to see this come to an end. but the only thing that can ensure that it comes to an end is washington's pressure. honda is real to ensure is really compliance with what has been agreed. and i don't think that such pressure and such compliance is in any way a foregone conclusion. okay, one robotic many thanks. indeed for joining us that what your thoughts from montreal will pick up this conversation with fulton bar, kathy's professor of public policy. it had been kelly for university here in doha. i just want to pick up on what mom was saying that because he was essentially saying that israel is given and will continue to be given comp launched by the international community to implement this deal as much or as little as it likes. i think he's, he's right in that sense, but as i was saying earlier, i think um,

within the hour has to be much more careful dealing with trump this time around because this is his 2nd term he's elected. he's elected with a great majority within the united states. he's not going to be running for president anymore. he's got 4 years. he has been times big ideas, not just globally, but domestically. so he will probably have no time for to be played with. and i think it's better to do that at the i should read it, understand that and hopefully try and make this work, this deal insurmountable. what is interesting is the timing of the whole thing. it's got nothing to do with the suffering of other students or even the suffering of the captive. this is all designed to please the americans, one president handing over to the other. so one presents claiming to have secured the ceasefire and the other will be releasing the, the captives under his mandate. so it's, it shows to what extent the rest has been is as

a set of the sunset of all this and for buys and to come out and cold from the bible. less the peacemaker, and presents himself as a peacemaker. and the same speech is admitting to have sustained israel and all as to the side. they'll act on its wars. and the kidding since may end to now thousands of people being killed in gaza at 11 and syria over so fee for him to come. i was, and i was and present this as, as a piece, making the, let's use the make it working on for a long time. is jeff is definitely agile, but it is actually a really bad, morally, i think. and this is where he's in not mentioned the weekly of the states appraisal on tomorrow. ground. he has managed with the help of nothing, you know, with them. but working together to handle the idea of as an, as colonialism in this route. and it is turned into a higher state and not many leaders would like to have anything to do with is right

at the moment. and of course, the documentation of what has happened in terms of genocide and crimes. it's not going to go away. so being documented, and we look forward to the legal instruments they use throughout the world to catch up with this or do you really think those instruments will lead to a point where as well is held accountable. but benjamin netanyahu, for example, is both the i c, c and tried as a war criminal, as well as his defend x defense secretary of will. that actually happened or do you think they can instill community? cuz as a very short memory will suddenly just go back to the way it was before. well, given what the, the agencies decision has been and his environment i'm here, so it's sort of you that happened one way or the other. unless you know something major takes place in a go globally, but we can see already that these writings are much more reluctant to travel abroad

. those are served in the military, have had to think twice. we had the cases of brazil is reliant in europe and they are being hunted down and i think it will have some which would have the effect. please much better than we've had since 1948 and. and it is all thanks to this last 15 months. and what by then has the neighbor let them know what to do to look at the details of what we know of the details of this deal. it does seem to be in phases and there's a lot of skepticism as to where the phase one can lead to phase 2 and a permanent stays, fine. well, it just protects very much the deal. it was proposed in may and then was pushed through the security council. this is where by the referred that this is the to the fact that supported by many, by, by the international community, but testing the way they've allowed that to happen with the timing now is that they are postponed to phases, to be the goal shaded later. and also i suspect that made

a lot of the worthy of the deal, elizabeth more vague. so they're not talking about specific lines of withdrawal. and they're leaving a lot of issues to be negotiated. and clearly the a is just to, to get through to give the palestinians, i think, to some extent human cherry impose which will be extreme. you're welcome bye everyone. to allow the these riley's to release the surface 3 of their hostages and south america. and that many thanks and dave, thank you. as president elect donald trump posted on his truth social platform, we have a deal for the hostages in the middle east. they will be released shortly. thank you. brian can be how can she joins us now from washington, dc. now what's striking kimberly about this from the post on social, is it paying the full 5 made his announcement of the bill even before the countries had made an announcement of the dale a yeah,

it just shows exactly how much involvement that the trump team had in this negotiation process, and in fact, you have to remember a tweet that donald trump will put out even before much of this took place even before the national security advisor jake sullivan said that they were on a cost of a deal. and that was that there would be hell to pay if the captives were not released before his inauguration on january 20th. in other words, there was a real heavy footprint being put on this whole negotiation process by the president elect donald trump. and that he was threatening to essentially not only him us, but also essentially saying to be is released as well. and it is rarely prime minister, but he wanted to see this come to an end. well, we know that donald trump, himself has

a storm support for israel. it's very different from that of the us presidents that currently occupies the oval office. joe biden has an ideological support for israel, but he's a very religious man. donald trump is much less so he, he does it in a more transactional way. he is, thinks about votes. he thinks about deals, and he's not a big supporter of war. and so for him, this is much less an ideological support and more about seeing something come to a conclusion. and so it's not surprising that we saw this tweet coming out. and then donald trump had a heavy hand in this. we know that his in mid east and boy steve woodcock, was intimately involved and was shoveling back and forth to doha just as the current administrations. i have a key involvement in these top us and we have heard the president joe biden as he

spoke from the white house and just in the last hour or so saying that there was a key involvement of the trump team because of course, well it is joe biden's proposal that this agreement is, is now laid upon the fact that it was his proposal for may of 2024. that this agreement is, it is the trump team that is going to be seeing this implemented. and that is going to oversee that. and make sure that it stays intact. i'm kimberly, it's just on the hosted. as we understand the $33.00 will be released in the 1st phase. and some of these that's done to be american or that is correct and we know that there is a white house press briefing taking place right now. cruise on peer the white house press secretary is discussing that and giving further detail, flashing out what that will look like. report is very keen to know what the

identities of these uh hostages are rather captives are. what with the timeline will be like and, and, you know, when the families could be re united, the us president joe biden has been very, very clear about trying to keep in contact with these families. and also that this is important part of his legacy. but he wanted to see this come to an end, but in terms of the american captives, this is just part of what he sees as a broader package. he also was very insistent on seeing a surge of humanitarian aid as part of this initial phase one. and so this is just part of what he wants to see happened, but there's also something important to remember and all of this in a, in phase one, he also wanted to see the return of the palestinians to their neighborhoods. and i think that's an important detail to remember because in that there aren't any neighborhoods in many cases for them to return to. and that is something that we

should highlight it's, it's a bit of a fact, but it's being glossed over and all of this, the president in allowing this to continue allow the is released to continue to demolish much of these neighborhoods. so when he, he makes a flat statement like that, that the palestinians will be allowed to return to their neighborhoods, which shouldn't underscore enough. the fact that there are no neighborhoods for these people to return to. and that is an important point that i think we need to continue to highlight. absolutely. thank you for highlighting that because the majority of products and ends in the gaza strip now homeless, they simply don't have homes to attend to, as you say can be i'll get joining us that from washington. many thanks. kimberly or what is what is better to present some goals or has long been a sticking points in these these far towards amazon, egypt have consistently rejected as well as the bomb to control to k car doors in the strip. israel has been seeking to maintain

a military presence in an area at cobb down, and the war began with cots of northern gauze up from the south. it's known as ben . it's irene colorado, as well. so. so it continued control on the 14 columbus and bosses i between egypt and garza known as the philadelphia car, adult israel miners this area controlling the movement of good some people until it withdrew its forces. phone calls that in 2005. since then, adoption falls as a taking of a petroleum duties with, as well, still inspecting all deliveries into the territory of egypt on time off was strongly opposed as well as control over the co. it'll because it was effected, we set the goals and strips only land connection to egypt, who said, how really is a former egyptian assistant for a ministry, joins us live from cairo. just before we talk a little bit more about the philadelphia, colorado. i wanted to get an idea from you, the role that egypt played in these mediation efforts to reach us east by dale brandon asia has from day one uh,

back in october 2020 c asian pash. uh, really uh, uh, the exact is all these efforts to bring a need is an idea of connection to an end as quickly as possible and asia to a star and the united states in november 2020 c succeeded in negotiating as these 5. what day is it that he's at this time for the pose in meditation that goes up and uh, this uh, sci fi lasted for one week. and we uh, tried hard to extend the seat to cease fire. uh, however, the use of a heaters uh these of a is so otherwise. and so the successful conclusion

of the adults and the higher today. and this is we, we, we are with the 2nd ceasefire agreement. and hopefully the israel would, on our own, its commitments and disagreements. i guess it was, it came through as who at 1st diplomatic enters and conflicts of president cc was uh, president biden of the united states and other readers, particularly the mayor of the ark. she's, i mean, let me for years now, let me just jump in. next i want to just move on to the philadelphia, colorado because this has been a major sticking point in these negotiations. in the past, benjamin netanyahu was very reluctant to withdrawal, is really full, says that he now seems that that will be a withdrawal. so will the objections go back in to this area? you know,

we have never been in the field. i was actually kind of there because the, uh, this area lives in augusta. me. so we have never been in business own before but but, but uh, we the palestinians, uh, managed and had the responsibility of managing the and running the thought of seeing inside of the crossing. and when the uh is the army, you went into the dispatcher flat and seen the guys as that back in may, 2020 for lease. of course we versed out was ition to the is raising the military presence. and this for it, or as well as the presence of is it 8 years old years active, but as the inside of the, of the, of the 5 crossing. and the, fortunately the agreement announced today in the ha, ah stipulates that these values would start withdrawing and could i do would

be from the defects. and then she called her door and the financing and she wouldn't be running. we'd be monitoring the but of seeing inside of the fi pressing . and that would enable us as to open it to open the door for us to search a 100 manufacturing assistance to best just what just on the roof across saying clearly a guessing in via the raffle crossing is absolutely essential, was about people guessing out was about palestinians wanting to leave the strip. will they be allowed to enter into egypt? yes madam me, me that they, they have, they have, have, have always had boxes to enter to enter the issue the. and i understand that this agreement, the, in the agreement announced today that the, the insurance amount of the palestinians who needs

a pass to the fact pressing and to get their medicaid aid and medical assistance, then they, they need. and ultimately, when the isn't that easy for us is the one who's drop completely from them does a, does a slip, and that is a better thing and that's already running and running. and i guess i get i, i think that the crossing would be operated normally as if it had been before at june 2007. and when the, when the come us to control of is that sensitive and the is a, is laid siege to the, the slip at the today. okay. the same. how are you doing? great to get to a visa from tara. nice, thanks. taking the time to join us head on out to 0. thank you man. i don't think this is a for me is really ambassador and coastal general in new york,

and he now joins us in tennessee. i was what the pick up festival on what we had that from his and how he did it is way is where it is will allow aid or a will be entering. the goal is to strip on people will be allowed out. people who need to leave the ship for medical assistance or for whatever reason they need to leave. the question is, will lee as well as allow this as part of this phase deal as well? so that, that depends laura on, on how sustainable and durable the ceasefire is going to be. and, and then that is the key because on the one hand you, you just correctly pointed to the fact that this entire structure of space is divided into phases. and that's probably the only way to do this in order to build trust and to see that everyone is complying with the deal. however, uh, once you divided into phases, you also expose the,

the entire process to the c fire faltering, in which case the phases on route. meaning that if there is a ceasefire and the agreement is implemented, as it is, as it is described on paper, then humanitarian aid will go and then policy names will be free to write about in jobs i tell. and then policies will be allowed to leave the us. but the one thing, laura, as long as we're talking about the, the inner workings of the agreement, the one thing that the agreement wasn't intended to do, to be honest, but does not cover. and that's important. and that is the so called post guides, a political framework, and it does not specify again, nor should it have. it's a ceasefire. it's a hostage prisoner deal. it's a good deal given the alternative and the deal. it should have been done in march. it should have been done in may. it should have been done in july of 2024. but here

we are today in june, mid january of 2025. and we have to deal and, and we should all say thank you uh to the categories for their relentless negotiations and thank you for every however, however, i, since december of 2023, when one president by the 1st presented a post for gas up political solutions that included if you're a coal and enter air force reinforced by the housing authority that we're supplying . how mos in order to remove how much politically. and israel said no again, it was proposed by the advice for well still vice president cala harris in january of 2024 and his speech and due by israel refused. it was again presented in may by president by when he presented the uh this deal that was trying to do the houses the fire and then talked about post. and just 2 days ago, secretary state blinking, you know, less than a week before he leaves his position. again,

came up with the cost for guys and now the clients are there. it's just that the leadership. so not there. the implementation is not there. every one is quick to say, well, the costs are, will pay, and then, so what are your ray b? a will pay? no one's going to pay anything unless there is a, a feasible viable implementable political plan. and right now, there isn't any. and this disagreement does not cover that important dimension. and i think if you're looking at post full garza and we're looking at who is going to rule that, who's going to governance and who's going to be in charge of the rebuilding as a one. another important fact that's being overlooked, and that is just yesterday, you know, section is time. so you think and was saying that how much is replacing it's flights of as quickly as it's losing them. it is not right. a spent force that's now his key achievement was to eliminate how mass he's now with this faithful, i deal with out of shipping that. so what does that mean? that is true that what it means exactly what it means. lauren presented at the very

accurate look. it goes to the heart of how i both sides define or either side defines victor. israel said, and i elation of hamas, proud occasion of hamas duration from us. total victory. these, you know, these were the slogans of the cliches of the war objectives, all the part you want this transit time, you know, floated for the better part of the last 15 months. how much all they need to do in terms of the a symmetrical equation here from us. all they need to prove is that they're still standing and waving a flag. it doesn't matter how, how quickly they replenish or their rank. it doesn't matter how many weapons or new initiatives they still have in their position. what matters is that they weren't not eradicate neither politically nor militarily, even though there was a, they weren't degraded militarily in a very significant way. but and the,

and that again, you know, i go back to the 1st part of our conversation that goes to the against to, to the very point though. if this is where we are today, the why wasn't this deal struck in march of 2024 from may of 2024 when it was on the table. when catherine negotiated it and finding presented it, it was there for the taking hands. here we are. and when 10000 people and garza was still alive, i don't think as many things indeed, for joining us head on the outside, the coverage of the cx. 5 deal that has been agreed and gone. so let's go to address craig, he's the associate professor at the school of security studies at kings college london, and he joins us from the address good to speak to the states fire. it actually takes effects in 3 days time on sunday. does this window then allow for more strikes on galls of strep before it takes effect a city?

i think what we need to expect here is that agent will exploit that window as much as it can to cause more destruction to create a federal complaint before a, you know, on after be laid down and we enter a, an effective, a pause all of united sci fi pools of virus, and so for the, for the time being, i think the next 3 days will be immensely harsh. full of people in gaza, the people will die. and unfortunately, that also suggests to us that the war and itself is probably not all, but just because we have a 1st phase of what is essentially prisoner will hostage deal. so we talked about, as well as withdrawal from the gauze the strep, but there is to look at the majority from the philadelphia car at all from a populated areas in the 1st phase. do think when likely to see a full withdrawal? you know, i think the, the idea of having a phase sort of deal that goes from

a prison i slash hostage exchange deal to one that will eventually, hopefully, potentially lead to some sort of, uh, overall, cx, 5 that is sustainable at that is a good idea. of the problem though is phase one is phase one. we've been in a phase 1 of november 2023 and a class. and now these readings have actually gotten quite a lot of concessions from the homicide because weren't very, very, very extensively on extracting quite immense concessions from from us over the last couple of months, particularly last summer when almost agreed for isabel to remain within the gaza strip. even during the, the 1st phase of age, the quote unquote sci fi deal. and now we haven't even further concession, whereby these are these i don't any remaining in the guys district, but they're actually, they're withdrawal will only be in, into areas that they, that isn't on the audio. and so it has to be in boxes on and the nets are important to it's not even test that one's on the face. one does not see these varies

withdrawn from, and that's a record which that part of the device to go straight into. 2, we will probably have one or 2 quarters going from north to south, west to billions, when they're on on they're allowed to go from the southern golf engine northern does that return on at it. but after all, the full defies. full pricing bases that israel vf aspirated all over the golden district, particularly and these quarter they will remain at the f. ken remained in phase one from what i understand, even in the phase 2 there. these ratings have kept the back door open, allowing them to remain in the corner of for the time being. and that is also, if that's why i say there's a massive question mark over whether, what is now hostage press the exchange you will actually become a purposes 5 deal just in the last minute that we have with you under as can you give us an idea of how militarily strong, how mass is at this stage. it is hard to say like the previous think i said, i think i must, has been severely degraded by the fact that they no longer authorizing as an organization, but an isolated, almost little nose in n y a network without

a really strong centralized leadership suggest that both militarily and politically, how mazda severely, we can, but it's true. i mean, almost all i need to do is show that they survived or based victory. and that something that particular the far right are, you know, the government wants to avoid it. that's why they want to continue funding, but there has to be a realization that and you know, the idea of resistance and the political side of the story. know the military mover from us will be the featured by the military force. the only way out. and we've always set this for at least a year now or longer. and the only way almost can be defeated is through the policy and the deal on a strategic solution to the both any problem under, as craig, modifying some data for joining us that we will have to leave it because we will have more no breaking news coverage of the cx, 5 deal in just a moment, but i will be back shortly. so do stay with us head on out to 0. so we can see

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