the the . ringback the is all keeps killing palestinians and goes on even as a ceasefire. agreement is reached, say, and 15 months ago is due to come into effect on sunday, a day before the troops return to the white house. so what's the deal? why now a, what's good? i'm doing this isn't 5 sort of the hello and welcome to the program on him or on con, news of a long awaited ceasefire prompted celebrations and goes on wednesday nights. but in

the hours that followed, it was business as usual, as well as killing machine attacks, killed thousands of palestinians off to the agreement between israel and how mass was announced. the sci fi is due to start on sunday. part of a deal reached following increased pressure from the incoming trump administration in the us. so economy agreement lead to a last and peace. what difficulties lie head. we'll discuss this with our guest shortly. but 1st, this report from it consumes series of to 15 months of debt, destruction, and displacement in tulsa, the announcement of a local way to cease fire dealer. it comes off the intense negotiations were held in patella's capital to ha, that's the, that's coverage. and what do you as well, so that'll be a time egypt in the united states. a happy to announce the success of joined to mediation if it's to reach a deal in gaza to exchange prisoners and hostages, to attend to a prolonged truce. the chief dependency spy,

and also the delivery of large amounts of humanitarian aid to fill a stand against the 3 state ceasefire is due to be implemented on january the 19th . the initial phase, the last 6 weeks in which the bombardment of gauze of installed these rarely military withdrawal from populate today of us to the outskirts of district allowing displace palestinians to return home. a mouse is expected to release 2 to 3 is rarely captives in exchange for palestinian prisoners and desperately needed. humanitarian aid was shown to pass, so it's $600.00 trucks a day. but disagreement has a clear mechanism for the 1st 42 days, and that is a little bit kind of them to negotiate. phase 2 and 3 in the 2nd phase, pulse is expected to release old remaining is really captive and return from both ballast and then present it. we'll see the phone withdrawal of israeli forces from the philadelphia called to do along cause us both of which egypt or the toad

unfunded stage will involve the 2 parties exchanging the bodies of the deceased and focus on the reconstruction of casa as well going. us preston, joe biden. i'm president, lead dillman from have both taken credit for security and did to you in as well. it was relief and hope, especially among the families of the captain, the garza, the celebrations, even as this when the strikes continued. is principal one goes on, has more than $46000.00 palestinians and repeatedly displaced an entire population, leaving people facing hunger. this consumption each entre seizure for inside students. before a panel discussion, let's hear from to guess directly affected by the war in a moment's will have from the relative oven is really captive held in garza. but

1st let's speak to someone living in garza. i'm a solid, i'm up. what's your reaction to the do? first uh, i feel the deal is a necessity. it's unassisted date to stop the killing, the necessity just by giving of if the innocence of children, of a woman and then but, but at the same time, it builds a new hope for palestinians to start again to begin to build their lives, to go back to the home of, to more than a year of being displaced and being oppressed and sees. so i'm, i'm hopeful that this is a huge step towards the permanency square. and this could not have happened without the pressure of the international pressure method. yeah. how's the government? because they have a colonial aspirations and we could see that in, in libyans, and living in the latest, the aggression. so they, they just don't want to read through and they have aspirations and, and,

and syria. so i'm still, i'm hopeful, but let's see, let's wait for the 2nd phase. maybe it's going i, i have a huge hopes that this time it's, it's good work and, and this is a huge step towards permanency expire. and yes, i am, i'm on hold for about. thank you to i last saw that now retired is where the gentlest elicits was taken captive during the october the 7th attack his grandson daniel and tell him he gave his reaction to the deal. my reaction is the yeah, i've been waiting for a long time to to get to that moment. and then now when there is the agreement about the hostage release. tennessee's fire i um i'm, i'm happy from that and i'm looking forward to see the hostages going on and more over. i'm little cool, but the older part is will ensure that is a deal. would it be a full deal of all the hostages coming back and there will be no issues in the

upcoming day. so on sunday we can start to have hostages coming back from uh, guys, uh, in the red cross chips. if i look backwards, i see a lot of things. i mean, we'll go, let's go back to october 7. how is possible to an old man like my grandfather, 84 years old, great grandfather, the only great grandfather held hostage in the world for more than 460 days. something that could never ever happened in any religion and culture. and that was in october 7th. so let's look forward. let's bring back the hostages home start to cease fire in gaza and continue for a different uh, error of the conflict between the palestinians. and these wireless. the that's bringing to a guess, endo is done a, b to a palestinian lawyer and former legal advisor to the palestine liberation organization. and tell of eve my right as long saying who is

a senior israel analyst at the international crisis group. she covers domestic is ready politics and relations with the palestinians. i mean bo foster with joined by beverly mill edwards, a non resident senior fellow at the middle east council on global affairs and colt . i'm asked the quest for power. welcome to you. oh, i want to start with go hot and with diana, that is very difficult to be joyous about this season announcement. given that we are witnessing a genocide. but is that any reason to be optimistic? the st just seeing the bombs stopped falling on the heads of palestinian children. and the complete designation of the health care system is the reason that you see so many people who are optimistic. they literally survive genocide. and so people are happy that the bombs are going to stop. the real question is whether this is going to be sustainable and whether israel is going to actually allow palestinians

to live in freed up. i have my doubts about this, particularly since i haven't seen that the international community has stepped up and exerted any pressure on israel over the course of the past 15 months to end this jet aside. so while people are happy, i think that we have to be looking beyond just the immediate looking to the future and asking ourselves whether we want to see this repeat again, or whether the world is actually going to do something to make sure that the house to the answer, finally 3 more of a instead of a, one of the things about this deal is that is causing a lot of control the see within israel itself, the hard right for rights politicians seemingly against the cease while i deal, particularly the 2nd phase, they say is off, should go to war against this still plenty of time for this deal to discuss that. right? yeah. so the far right is explicitly against the deal and is threatening to top of the coalition on the can you out does have a much daugherty that he needs in the cabinet and in the capacity of the parliament

to pass the deal. the question is, if they will actually quit the coalition now i have been putting my bet on the fact that they won't because while in power they have done extraordinary. uh, you know, disruptive measures in the west spain to the israel police and they have achieved a lot of things that they want to achieve against the palestinians and for a greater israel and small to reach the finance minister is pulling quite badly. so if he leaves the coalition, his alternative is not great at the same time, this is threatening so and it's and you how is that on the corner? because as far as i can tell, the deal is done. but he might not have a coalition of the other side of this, and i think he will do everything his power to try to promise them the things that they will be able to get under a trumpet administration if they stay. but we are now at almost 4 pm. i'm, it is ro, the cabinet and government are supposed to pass the deal. procedurally it officially here today so that it can take into effect sunday and he still hasn't done so and there's been radio silence maintenance in yahoo since the deal was announced last

night. let me bring you in here. one of the interesting things about this deal is the us president of joe biden, the outgoing one saying that this was the same deal, but was he presented that was rejected by netanyahu? but then we have trump saying, i made this deal. i made this deal happen. is there a back room deal that's been done between that and yahoo and trump is go to display of stage? do you think of? well, they saw the speculation, the some form of incentives which listened up perfectly normal in any kind of see fund negotiations as we well know from northern ireland and from other c spots in the israel palestine. so there's definitely speculation. the forms of incentives have been offered to net 10. yahoo! and that could include from the trump administration agree, no, i told him for the alex ational pipe posted in the entire tree oral tide syrian territory. and also that signaling that may be things like functions that have been

put against this race that close in the west by the, by an administrative who will be rescinded by the new secretary of state. montgomery via donna is the, is a back room deal. and if it is the attic station of the occupied westbank attic station, necessary entire treat settlers being allowed to continue the way they all behaving in the occupied westbank. that doesn't bode fight a longer peace deal. or in fact scope was a can a longer piece still is acceptable certainly not. and i think that we have to be very careful in presenting this as, as some sort of trump achievement. it is correct that this is the same agreement that was presented back in may, and it's the same structure of the agreement of the same agreement. back in march of 2024 and the same structure as in november of 2023. that be and it's clear that

this could have ended with a simple phone call by president by but instead he funded it at the same time, i think we have to be very cautious in saying that this is somehow trump working his working his magic because what we do knows that this isn't going to be without real work that trump is going to reward israel. and the idea that somehow a state that has been genocide, all this perpetrated genocide for over 15 months is going to be rewarded. is obviously very troublesome. this is where it becomes very important for the rest of the world to stop in and to actually make clear, the genocide is not acceptable. that colonialism is not acceptable. and we already have some decisions by the international court of justice saying that the world now must act. so the idea that the, that trump is going to give away a palestinian territory and that this is going to be accepted is obviously false. and it's up to the world now to put into place measures to make sure that that does

not happen. a matter of the world has been when the world has failed. let's be honest. when it comes to putting pressure on is really a politicians domestically as well. as been able to withstand the pressure just because the americans are backing them, is that any thing international community can do if this indeed is a potential deal this i'd like section. i mean, you know, 1st of all, my analysis is that that's a yahoo specifically isn't necessarily interested in for melodic station because he's able to push through to fax to an explanation without dealing with any of the legal consequences for a very, very long time. so i'm not sure that's necessarily the route that he would choose to take, certainly the far right wants that. but you know, the ceasefire, which is already full of loopholes and already may not see the full permission to the end, which would include the, the ability for gaza to, to be rehabilitated. and we've construct, i mean it will, it is already shaky and for it to have any hope actually leading to

a political horizon for palestinians and security for both posts and isn't, is realized in the international community, which is being, are not just the us, but the europe, your opinion, and others, and some of whom have tried and not in the west and the global. so would have to hold israel to account. and that has not happened yet. if they want to see this through. and if trump specifically has, who has put some political capital now into closing this deal, if he wants it to not fall apart quickly, he's going to have to visit ministration. are going to have to do a lot to make sure that it stay is, and i'm not sure i see that happening at the same time. you know, this, you know, really weird situation in which a truck cannot buy, are the ones to that is the one to kind of close this deal. and so what, what are his expectations of nothing. yeah. and even in this transactional agreement that they might have orchestrated missing, yahoo is in a very precarious situation. so again, like the, the,

the likelihood is that this deal will not actually stay the course and it will be provided for everybody involved. but if the international community doesn't want to go back to the same place that we've been in for the last 15 months, it's going to have to start. the whole thing is real to account. for example, it could respect the arrest warrants of by the i c j 4. and i've seen yahoo and former defense minister. it could insist on me as it's of the season in gaza permanently. and it could help palestinians reach a point where they can politically renew and start election process and all the things that they are not able to do at this point. so that but mr. beverly i was speaking to one of the former senior people in the occupied palestinian territory as united nations official. and he said to me, off the record, this isn't the best deal, but it's the deal that we can get. but he's fully expecting it to fail. do you think that is the expectation generally, but this is a deal that we'll file. well look,

i think anybody who's ever been involved in mediation on negotiations because the squad little piece deals be they in northern ireland, south of car in the me least expects fadia. and that's why process is a very boring mechanisms of monitoring and verification. timing all 5 around, so to negotiation on the things that are out, the participants have been addressing, which is international pressure and international will, will be very, very cold front. and that be sure right now on the current the current agreement, at least we can say that for 42 days month think this is very uncalled to the post the remarks of a mile from darrow, by law. at least for $42.00 days. there is some dilemma of her for every palestinian living in gaza in the west bank in east jerusalem and for his radius whose families have been held hostage to insult type of the 7 we shouldn't squander

about how we should as an international community, as diplomats and international organizations, we should continue to marshall efforts to show off the c swipe process. so the, off the, the $42.00 days we can get to phase 2 and on a palm and a cease fire sustainable the spot which he can well open up the gates for the next stage, which would be the recovery of rehabilitation of adults and stress. now we do know that the sound is the leading, the global alliance on the implementation of the t states. they show along with the, you know, way and they were meeting yesterday out of coats out here reading the will. so the a t play are you from the, at the moment to is to be on the periphery of the, the mediation that took place in total. how to reach the currency spot arrangements . let me bring in dinah. hi dinah. i want to talk about these negotiations with palestinian points of view. you've talked about this before. that it's almost comes,

it's almost a universal truth. but whenever the palestinians negotiate, they are often negotiating under pressure from the position of weakness. and israel is leading the charge as it was, but now we have a genocide in gaza. has that put pressure on these re lease to soften that position? or if they just go hot and do you have any face in these negotiations be led by saudi arabia. they're taking place? no, no, i have no facing them whatsoever. and the reason i have no faith is because of the fundamental power balance. the reason that house to the ends are always on the week or side is because they're living under is really military rule. and what that means is that israel can call the shots, they can call the shots of how our daily lives our lives. and unless there is a 3rd party to actually put pressure on israel to end its military occupation, then it's always going to be a situation which there's a power imbalance. now,

the fundamental problem here is that nobody wants to do this. and over the course of the past 15 months, rather than is really looking in where it's insane, how is that we got to this position. and maybe we have to give up this idea of perpetual war and perpetual control. and this mentality that the only way that we can be said is it posted is our on site instead of them doing that, they've double down. so i fully expect and you already see it in this agreement, that they're going to be even greater elements of israel trying to control palestinians everything from how many trucks come in, what types of trucks, who's allowed to monitor it, was allowed to leave it be this is precisely what is real has always been doing and unless there is a, a shift as a fundamental shift in mentality of one that use that policy is have a right to live freely and independently without israel then. then i'm afraid that

we're going to be back in the same position over and over again. more of it's a, it's an opinion that i've heard over and over when i've been in israel when i've been in palestine, where people say, these riley's just want us palestinians to be happily occupied. they don't want us to kick up a fuss or do anything him do anything that will look at that particular but, and it's always been very, very successful occupying the palestinians. there's no inputs has, but as well to change in any way it's strategy of simply subjugating the policy and it says no pressure to it, right? no, there's no pressure, but i do think that the october 7th attacks are you know, a good illustration of, of why it's not actually a tenable, it might have been stable, but ultimately there is a price to pay for continuing to be an occupying power. and now after 15 months, israel is wanted for war crimes is really soldiers are trying to be, you know,

be betrayed or arrested broad. unfortunately. and it's in the auto himself has not yet had to pay a price politically or internationally. but it is individual is rarely as ours are, and we'll start to pay that price is rarely think about where they travel they're going to have to, as soldiers are gonna have to think twice about what they're posting on mind. if there's, there's going to be a change, it isn't how it is really is understand of the way they interact with the world. and so, you know, ideally the people in charge would be held to account 1st. but the way this process is starting, it's starting from, from the individual is really and, you know, i, i'm hoping that the trauma of october 7th, the lack of faith in this government. the fact that there is a real tension between the military, which as you alluded to, wants to have a kind of enlightened unhappy occupation and a political echelon at once full on annexation. that out of that is really is who have been displaced from the north of as well from the south. a visitor of who walk

this hostage deal and see that this government is working to under mine is that they will start to change their political behavior. and their voting patterns, it might take a long time. but at some point and i, you know, i think everybody sees the israel subjective and gaza with all of the military that it's pushed. and the destruction that it's caused has not brought israel any closer to removing a mouse from power or providing a real security. so hopefully as early as will start to realize that beverly and you'll dealings with these readings and you'll dealing with the palestinians, have, you should know to a shift in these readings. outage you'd have, they've become weak up because of the genocide going on and goes up or is that the same idea that we are in charge and we are strong still provides the only thing kind of role we see from is around particularly it's politically stop us from the backs top by, you know, very strong public social media and media narratives that they dis, height,

but calamity. and despite the show that we've visited on them on october the 7th. and that's myra pointing to that will not mention time. so, you know, the old usage of the phrase, but is where i would always be. so i feel we feel goals we occupied for the purpose of this rel, security defined the fact that that was literally blowing a postal code that the 7, well we see is that israel come remain intransigent and can remain and trust him because the international community i'm certainly the us, whether it's the by that ministration or full coming coming trumpet, ministration, it literally encourage them to do so from the to do so politically and it so much that we support them to do so. so bad in itself is sufficient for it to remain, richard to remain on yielding and which is why it's so difficult to get to sessions of us. so in polls, sense compromise, some concessions, which is so important in,

in ending negotiation in any mediation process on an dial to reduce wireless manage finance, achieve a c spot and, and eventually achieve peace with a 2 state solution where both the palestinian people i'm just really is kind of literally live in peace side by side data be so as all of this was going on in gaza, it was getting worse in the occupied westbank. that was a rule that was often unseen, unheard of by the international community going on. israel was arresting by the thousands people rating refugee campsite was killing people on the west industrial scale when it came to the occupied west bank. where is the palestinian authority in all of this? they've come under a tremendous amount of criticism when it comes to getting refugee camp, for example, and facilitating his way the rates, the of where's the occupied westbank and opinion all of this now. i think it's

important to keep in mind what is real done over this period, which is not just of the raids but also killing and also to be taking over a palestinian land. they've expropriate more land in the course of the past 15 months and they have been 20 years. and when it comes to the policy, and i'm just starting where they are, where they are. the house mean a story. we should really simply understand it as being no greater in power then, then a local mer, and rather than i'm standing up and pushing and, and demanding to the end to this genocide and trying to support health change. we're seeing that the housing authority has stopped back and done nothing on the, on the best case scenario. and in a worst case scenario is actually going after people in geneva as well. it just shows just how the 2 are connected, how israel is so connected to the policy. yes already. and as i know there's a said in the past, the housing authority is no better than israel security,

subcontractor, which means that it's carrying out the work that is real demands, that it carry out. and this is because it's also the reply at the request of the international community. we must break this mindset that somehow hausteen's are a security problem or a security threat. and instead be addressing the fundamental issue which is the lack of palestinian freedom. and once we put into place measures to make sure the policies are free, so we won't be having this conversation about a post to me a story that is, that is doing nothing to support dispute. a very quick follow of diana because you've made a very interesting point. is it been time for the palestinian authority to disband and we go back to the pa, the sign liberation organization or resistance movement. is that what you're saying? for a long time and others have been talking about just dismantling the palestinian authority because it's, it's overstate. it's welcome. it was really only designed to be in, in place for a short period of time for 5 years, and then to be replaced by

a permit posted in government that's elected the end of this month. my hood, i best will have been in power for 20 years. he was, but he was elected for 4, and that's it. and unless we, we go down the path of not looking at just the policy and authority as limited in jurisdiction, limited in the places to which it can operate. but instead, transform it into a government that's representative of the off house students. and that is pushing for liberation for independence of, of how students and their way. and then i'm afraid that we're going to be stuck in the same circle all over and over again. i want to thank all guess dinah, be to my room is only seen and beverly milton edwards and thank you to for watching . you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out, is there a don't com and for further discussion, go to a facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash age and side story. and you can also join the conversation on x all

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