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i wouldn't meant to assist you. and you are deb it's we should not be asking robots about how to conduct our human relationships. of a decade ago, the pew research center published a study about a i and the future. in this, one of the experts predicted that by 2025, many of us would have robot lovers fast for to 2024 and the founder of one of the world's top dating apps, bumble says users are very close to having a avatars that will do the work for them, so you don't have to bother with the data in part. is that really the future of love? to discuss, we're joined today by alex smokey, a tech enthusiast and journalist and content creator for technology which explore the intersection of technology and the future of humanity. vehicle suppose a technology strategist and offer of imagination, dilemma about navigating technological disruption through the power of human imagination. and laura, there's some, bruce, a gen z, millennial psychologist,

who's areas of expertise, includes social anxiety, stress related disorders, as well as basing and relationship issues. thank you. all so much for being part of the conversation today. guys, let's start from the beginning. i mean, the lost count of the number of successful, interesting, attractive people today who just can't find love. and yet allegedly is never been easier with the technology at our disposal. laura, i believe you're happily married. give us are secret. i'm okay. what are people who come to you today saying about how they are addressing this most basic human need for connection? where are young people today getting that from i think that's such a great question. so i work a lot with young people, so people that are college age people are in their twenties, and a lot of them already are using digging apps. and, you know,

i think the thing is that it's eating apps have already changed what the norm for dating is, you know, people are going in gravitating towards these streaming apps. but i think a really interesting statistic is the recently a actually isn't generation live actually found that 79 percent of college students are craving, meeting people in person. it's. so it's just as interesting an interesting phenomenon where even though it's really changed that came, you know, because jonesy really crazed authenticity they crave real connection. there still is this desire to meet people in person. and so that can sometimes lead to a frustration gap where they feel kind of pigeonhole to be using dating apps. and at the same time they might still be craving that meet q or that in real time connection. um, but they might be locking me and yeah, these are the still natives, rice, they, they, they grew up with technology, but yes,

everyone craving the human interaction video. can you run us through the different ways a i particularly a has already been integrated and is influencing the dating scene and romantic relationships today. sure. well, i think it's important to take a look at how i is influencing everywhere. and it's basically our language bridge, because before we weren't able to have this kind of user interface with a computer, it was keyboard and all of that. but now we can talk to a computer just as we talk to our friend or any other human. and so just as that has implications for the workplace, that has implications for the dating scene. and i think also it's important to say that this is not happening and i solution to the loneliness global health process that the world health organization has identified late last year. and so it's changing the, i think the ask of how you interact with another human,

where you get your emotional needs and validation, sometimes from. and so you can say some people looking to intimate a i so to speak, to share things that you wouldn't share with a human. oh, it's fascinating, isn't it? because while researching for the show um, something that i came across again and again is how fast things are moving and how, what was normal for my generation is no longer normal and how difficult it is for everyone to process this. in the process of alex, can you help us understand the mechanisms of the technology and how they are actually integrating human emotion and psychology in the design process? would you say that that is what makes a i so addictive, for example, a little bit. so it's interesting, there's a bit of, uh, confusion that deal between an algorithm and an a i. and i think a lot of people who have an algorithm ingrained in their software is not calling it

in a i. so i think at the end of the day really the, the infatuation we have with it is i will give a perfect example. i was bored one friday afternoon and i got into a 2 hour long discussion with chat gp which by the ways. so it's more advanced now than it was a year ago. and i noticed that every time i would ask you the question, it would always kind of come back to me with, oh, that's a, that's a great question. and i like i'm, i'm a pretty tough papers and i don't need that reinforcement from that validation for math, but i gotta tell you, it made me feel a little bit good. so you kind of extrapolate that and, and apply that to people who may be, you know, going back to the loneliness epidemic. people who don't have social surplus, people who are in, you know, maybe more introverted situations and, or maybe they just came out of a break up those, those moments, those little you want to call them like look a gap in the society where you can fall into and just, you know, feel good about it for a quick 2nd it's, it's nice, but there's, i think there's a danger to it as well, right?

because then you kind of remove the necessity of meeting other people going outside, having that kind of interaction that makes society where it makes us human. absolutely. and depends. obviously it always depends how long you stay in that little void in that little hole. yeah. right. um more how we say these technologies are impacting people's mental health. i mean we, we've just mentioned the luminous epidemic. it is a problem. everybody is sealing more and more alone. can technology help or hinder in healing that issue are right. i think, you know, it's important to think about who, who's gravitating towards, let's say, using a chat bar or a digital avatar. and sometimes we actually are looking at the users. they might be, you know, teenagers, young people that already are predispositions to things like anxiety, depression, loneliness, and who might be having

a hard time with socializing in real life. and so, you know, for that population that are already may be considered vulnerable. and so it's a little bit concerning about, you know, you take someone who might already be feeling socially isolated and then you mimic human behavior. human emotional connection. i think it's important to realize the actually the emotional bonds that someone make for him with um, you know, a search type of chat bar or something like that is actually really real. you know, we can form very secure attachments to these. um, these dropbox, things like that. and i think, you know, even for teenagers or young people died, may not have those predispositions. we still see chance like, you know, likes matches and views as being a little bit problematic because they might be tying their sense of self worth to the superficial or external markers. so you may actually see them being more vulnerable to things like distress one that validation is not as consistent is

obviously very important to validate that what these young people are feeling towards these top ought to ok is real. but what the chapel is feeling towards them might not be perhaps i don't know what we're going to get more into that. but on the appeal of a i, in these dating spaces, this new dating spaces. here's what some young users have been saying, take a look here, you can see the exact instructions that i put into my chat too busy to get my jan talking as he does. first of all, i gave him a name and then i gave him the character how he is supposed to behave. he's my boyfriend, he's sweet supporter for mantic likes to flourish and so on. your voice was calmer or more peaceful before. can you change it back to what it was? absolutely. i'll switch back to the calmer and more peaceful voice. so i think just 2 photos is blue shadow. honestly, not to mention the initial messages are always so awkward, so basically creates in a dating assistant that simulates the blind day with other people's 8 needing

assistance. the simulator dates get more information about chemistry and also shared interest. i think there's a silverado in because the thing after just sell offers like it's so hard just started a conversation also i thought this was the cool thing. if you don't know if you want a match with the person that you can chat with there a i to learn more about that. so there's no awkward goes to alex the vast majority of the videos we found of young women talking about these. and i tools are man also look into a i to sort out the person, how do you understand, i mean, you know, you, you go back to the, the lead a separate dynamic. you know, it's no, it's no secret that you know that a vast majority of that is men who in general have never had the same kind of social outlet. the women have had re, like growing up i, i've seen my step sisters grow up and be way more socially advanced than i was at the exact same age. right. it took me a long time to figure out a lot of things and i think that's why they say that like, women mature, faster than mine is because i think they, they, they do with the nuances and the complexities of social life a lot earlier in

a lot quicker and they figure it out, right. and so when it comes to, uh, you know, who's using this and, and how many are going to using this? i, i think when i started using child to be, i thought of the toys i had it come up with some funny little stories. i'm like, oh, that's cute, you know. and then like, you know, the, the one creator just posted. you can literally customize the prompt as specific as you want it to be right. and so what she did was create a boyfriend, what a guy can do, for example, who is completely socially inept glass and 0 chance on a data. yeah, for, by the way is dominated, i know 10 years dominated 75 percent by men. it gives them maybe a slight edge over, you know, the 90 percent or, or is it 90 set of minutes maybe have an edge on that. right. so i can see that being kind of a tool in your arsenal, but at the same time, if you rely too heavily on that it kind of removes the juice of what all of this is all about. you know, we, we, we kind of talked about, kind of the old days about,

oh, meeting somebody in a bar. right. it seems like such as a far away land at this point. and then fast forward to gaining apps like 1015 years ago. even that seems like a far away line. so now we're at a point where people have been used to data gaps i uh, but my girlfriend about a year and a half ago. and even then i gotta tell you, like i remember it was a numbers game, right? you're swiping past 3 o'clock in the morning, you're swiping on the toilet, you're swiping on the way to work. and it's, it's almost like you disconnect from the actual experience of it. right, like this person isn't a person until you have a conversation with them until then you're just like you're kind of disassociated. right. and it's a crazy way to think about the so i think a i kind of like is just one more chip in that stack of changing the wave dating exist in 2044. it's very bizarre. yeah. and i guess for young people meeting somewhere in the bar is very bizarre, right? because there's just such a far fetched reality. and to think about the fact that you go to bar and then you

might meet 2 people that might catch your attention. but then in the map, there are hundreds of them over there, available. i mean, lydia, we're talking about a, i making things perhaps more efficient. i want to say in our loved life, which is for me personally, heartbreaking to, to even use that word. but while we're talking about that aspect, there's also of course, um, some people taking just a whole different level um and developing romantic connections to these bots. i mean, there are a number of stories out there. i'm thinking of course, of that risk a case of a 14 year old who was actually in love with, with the boss. and then i committed suicide and allegedly to join his love and her virtual reality. you are a tech strategist, media you, you have

a very positive way of looking at technology, but we're just saying we are all equipped to deal with what's happening here. there's so much to say here. so 1st of all, let's talk about the efficiency aspect. whether it is dating or whether it is a manufacturing process, what artificial intelligence does is it speeds up the time to value. and so i know that it may sound cringe worthy to say that you are going to talk to the ai concierge of somebody else on the day. they are actually that is a way to interface and speed time to the value. the value here is compatibility. and that is what you want, and i think people lose sight of that. and we all ideally would like to have somebody who's compatible to us. and if these algorithms can help us bridge that through our a concierge, and they're a concierge. then i think that that genuinely does speed up the time to value and also it serve as an icebreaker, to be honest because it's r a. i concierge said,

hey, i think this person is nice for you. and the other person said the same thing and they gave us some sort of something to talk about. then we can start talking and say, my ai concierge said this about, you know, i'd love to know more. so again, a speeding time to value doesn't matter what industry is. and then in terms of the romantic aspects of it, that some people are now going away from the human and going into the a i itself as a romantic companion, not using a i to find that human, but just using as their romantic partner. i do think that it's important to place it in the context of where we are today. we're living in an era of explaining she ality we're, we're seeing innovation, accelerate speeds that have never ever existed before. so i do think we need to give ourselves some self compassion and recognize that it is difficult to be living in this moment in time. and that we are all trying to figure this new social norm that is coming about literally as we're speaking. and yes, and we've been talking

a lot about that here on the stream as well. and the challenges on, on that particular point in terms of regulating this race, right? because it is a race right now. and as you said, is going faster than anything we've ever seen before. i'm. i wonder as well what this oh, me to us, and what is it all say about us as society and how demanding and unwilling to adapt to anything in anyone we've become. she has one particular thoughts we found on social media on that then when you really got into talking to denise who has there's a chat box, parker, she said. ready it was about her disappointment with humans and her idea that basically being connected to somebody mean julie that will be have to give up on your own dreams to support their dreams. you know, it reflected not this sort of just hope in technological problem, although that is there, that is one forest coming out of one side. but coming out from the other side is us,

right? we're not connecting to each other the way we use to there's an epidemic of loneliness . people you know, don't know how to have work through problems together. they don't know how to talk together. and so i found it much more jaren to learn how much we are the issue then technology is the issue, at least in her case. very briefly, jacob board has endured less, was describing their, the story of one of the sources of a story on relationships in today's day and age. and, or alex, your thoughts here on whether we might be the biggest obstacle or standing the way between us. and we do it ourselves and love and real love it's, it's look, i, i can be an objective person, right? obviously, i love people. i think, you know, this is, this is great, this whole world that we have, we get to just go out and hang out and go sky diving in the people at a bar that's. that's amazing. that's fun. but comma parentheses. yeah,

obviously like, you know, a lot of the hardships that we've had in the life are related to people. people letting you down, people not follows. do one of the things that you would have expected them to relationships, especially. i mean, look at, you don't need people, i have to deep to find my current girlfriend. nobody bad days like the gone right. uh, you know, a 5 year relationship that had to end. so i could learn a lesson about it. so the internet is part of part of the human experience, part of giving up. yeah. it's, that's the human experience. and so that's something, it's like a, there's like a duality here that we're kind of getting at a crossroads. and technology is always a reflection of, you know, our needs as a species, as a society, kind of, you know, everything that we create is to make our life easier. and so we're now at a point where we're making relationships made easier. and is that good, or is that bad? whose to say, i think overall, honestly, if it was my decisions, let's pull back a little bit. all right, let's, let's say i agree with what he said. you know, focusing on the fact that maybe technology needs to take

a backseat of this and maybe we need to fix us a little bit. right. i think coded by the time that it's kind of froze the world a little bit and kind of dialed everybody back socially and, and kind of culturally and like we just kind of like became permits and i feel like the world kind of never really fully recovered since that i look a lot of my, a lot of my friends i'm, i'm 35 and a lot of them just don't go out as much as they used to. and it's not just because they aged 5 years in the last 5 years. it's, i know these people, they, they would have gone out to go to a concert or whatever it's done. it's on, it'll be a lot of agencies, they're not going out as much anymore. obviously the economy is part of that. but it's just there's, there's a, a lack of socialization, and that's trickling down to so many elements, including technology and, and we've been talking about data in here, but it's just definitely not only for dating purposes. take a look at how a guy is already revolutionizing our relationship with a dead lawyer. our tools re memory talked to your deceased family member in

a private room with a guy wait with a. ready you have to see this, not sure how i feel about it. magine this go into a room with a mass of 400 in the screen and a high quality sound system. band pass loved one is sitting there like an intervention. you can have conversations with them, work out your issues in a private space. the we started with the size, energy model, horsepower. so most of the cannot go through and you know, the

well, that was wholesome. laura is your take on the importance of grief and whether keeping an avatar of a dead loved one can help or hinder that process. oh, yeah. you know, i do 1st to my colleagues point is this technology, you know, inherently positive or negative? you know, a think, but that doesn't really exist actually, and it just really depends on how we are used as talk. and i think my concern with something like this is i, you know, grief is painful. and actually, it involves this really complex process of emotionally detaching from your loved one, leaving those memories in the past. and excepting that you are going to be living lives without that loved one and moving forward. and i think, you know, something like this can provide that temporary connection, that temporary sense of like, oh thank goodness, you know, rather rabbit is still here. but if we're thinking about that long term process,

it's a very complex one. and so i think my concern would be that does it actually pull long the grieving process because it might be used as actually a way to avoid it may be sitting with those painful feelings really coming to terms with that reality and then moving forward. so i think, you know, it's even just seeing that it is a little bit surprising to me. i'm like, wow, we are really in a future year. but it's, i think, you know, it depends on how people are using it and seeing it more as being a supplement to things like, you know, journaling and talking to loved ones, processing your grief, and maybe even seeking professional help if it's something that you feel like you can't do alone. and as a lady i mentioned earlier, it could indeed help with some past trauma. i don't know if you can meet that someone, say everything you've got to say and then and then move on. but what do we know in terms of how people are using precisely the technology?

lydia. one final question here, the consensus up until now? or was that the technology is not destiny and that we control the future. we will in habits. will that still be the case with a high though? i mean there's so much that we're talking about in the sense that when we get to a g i, there is no controlling dots. um, what is the future of a i in relationships. and i really think that i don't subscribe to this kind of, we can't do anything. it's beyond us. we can always do things. and our governance systems is that we have leaders who are able to pass laws. we have social inputs into that. we have public opinion metrics and we have data and research and we should use that. and we haven't used that. an example of that is how social media impacts teenagers. and we, we've known this for many, many years and not enough restrictions have come into place is in our power to

restrict and some schools, for example, already saying that a young children cannot have smartphones. they have to have, you know, the, the old dumb phones. and this is something we're going to see more more as people start to step up. perhaps it's the millennial parents who have seen this and notice and say, no, i want more regulation. i want to make it safer. for i think about children as the most valuable, but even for adults, we need classes. nobody taught us to say like how you deal with this because this is the 1st time and she went history that we have this option and we have never, no one ever our human species history has said, oh, well i, you're not great. i don't like talking to you, so i'm going to talk to an a i like this is now and you can, we need to together learn. and i really look to the psychologist and sociologists to help give us a framework to have these conversations. and hopefully we can finally come up with a way to actually fight back because we are running out of time. and unfortunately

we are out of time in the stream as well. laura lydia and alex, thank you so much for your time. thank you for being part of the show and thank you all for to me and keep the conversation going line. you can use the hash tag or the handle injury stream and we will look into your comments and feedback, take care. and i'll see you soon. the in the early hours of november, the eight's violence erupt. it between mccarthy, televi, friends, and people in amsterdam was an empty some basic attack or a response to provocation, which is 0 looks at how a street confrontation turned into a political flash point. and then the read 19 debates about immigration, religion, and the identity, the full report, amsterdam, mccarthy, and who to comes on i will just say around a todd, his name, interviews could be interim head for 4 years,

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