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may i assist you to take effect on sunday thought a cab. i assume i pulled some the latest attacks from data by law. there's no sort of a passing for the car on the ground of attacks that have been conducted by the is really a ground forces and the fight to get. i'm to focus as we have been mentioning, the full has been on the main densely populated senses back up in on the dates that we think civilians and populations we have been getting reports from valley child suggest that's a group of civilians has been targeted. where at least 2 people confirmed killed in the strike and we have been hearing of the. 7 past couple of hours provided, showing coming from the eastern areas of the area. but i see that has been as one of the main densely populated areas the office of 5 minutes. the been, you mean nothing. yahoo says the captives being detained in gaza, couldn't be released as early as sunday. sees 5 and release of captives

a subject to approval from the security cabinet which has been meeting to discuss the deal. it also needs a sign off from a divided government finance minister as allow smotts rich once the wall to continue in gaza and fall. right? national security administer, it's a mob been give it is threatening to resign. if the deal is approved us that's hands you mike. scoutis get if this reckless deal is approved and implemented, the jewish party will give the resignation letter to the prime minister. the jewish ball party will not be bought of the government and will withdraw from it. but i said to the prime minister that if the war on her mazda is renewed with force in order to decide and realize be achieved, the goals of the war, we will return to the government. how to solve, how it has that life is from my mind, that's because as well as bad, that i'll just hear from operating that and in the occupied westbank is ratified by

1st the security cabinet. and then the wider coalition, saturday night, it will go into effect on sunday at a time with a mediator still have not a. now would you have to remember that benjamin netanyahu coalition is at stake here because you have 2 parties who are threatening to leave the government if this deal is passed because they want reassurance is that israel will go back to all our fighting after phase one of the 0, but there are 3 phases outlined in the framework and 2 and 3 that lead to a permanent ceasefire. and that's something these members of the government do not want to see place in south sedans. capital are imposing a nighttime cuff, you also demonstrate this doubted stealing from sidney zone shops, early as a protest against the death of 29 south, soothing these citizens in sedan that were killed. and by the my down the, the capsule of gives you the states. the city was taken back by sedan saw me last week, officer is captured by the permanent true rapid support forces

a year ago. the former focused on the prime minister on call has been sentenced to 14 years in prison in a line. corruption case is why for sure a baby has been child for 7 years, couple was found guilty of receiving line for free from a real estate developer in exchange for illegal favors. when con was prime minister, he's been in jail since august 2023. he faces thousands of charges con denies any wrong doing and says the cases are politically. busy motivated, rainy and president necessarily possess scanned is on his 1st official visit to russia, is now holding talks with the russian president vladimir putin. the 2 sides are expected to assign a 20, a strategic partnership agreement. the russia around treaty would include closer defense cooperation. as a headlines the news continues and i'll just say are off the bottom line and of course there is, i'll just say we're adult calm the

. ready a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. trump's agenda includes everything from tax cuts to immigration, but how much is real and how much is bluster? let's get to the bottom line. the and paid for things couldn't look rosier for incoming us president donald trump, his party controls really all the branches of government, and he's defeated his opposition soundly. last time he won, the democrats considered him an illegitimate and dangerous president in many formed what was called the resistance. this time around. there's no such thing. most of his day, one talking points focus on tariffs, ceiling, the country southern border with mexico carrying out the quote,

largest mass deportation operation in american history. some of his executive orders can be effective right away, but somebody gets stuck in the legislature or courts for years. so what exactly is the trump agenda and how much of it is really doable? today we're talking with heavy troy, a former us deputy secretary of health and human services, an author of several books on presidential history, most recently, the power and the money, the epic clashes between commanders and cheap and titans of industry. and here with me in the studio is now spanish, the white house calling this for the hill. thank you both for joining us today. we have an audio ration that is, that is happening. we've got a new president coming in a new era. i think i'd like to hear a little bit from president trump on what he says he's going to do one day one. let's listen. one day one. i will launch the largest the port taishan program in american history. i will rescue every city in town

that has been invaded and conquered. they took away 625000000 acres of offshore drilling. nobody else does it. and they think they have it, but do it. we'll put it back. i'm going to put it back on day one. i'm gonna have it revoked on day one, and i will end the electric vehicle mandate on day one. thereby saving the us auto industry for complete obliteration with a stroke and my pin are day one. we're going to stop the trends, gender lunacy. i will band refugee resettlement from tara infested areas like the gaza strip. we will restore the travel band, some people called the trump travel, then i keep the radical islamic hairs out of our country. no, i want you to give our audience a sense of the difference between statements,

like we just heard. and donald trump maybe very, very committed to all of these good goals and actually try and deal with them on day one. but the difference between sort of hyperbole and statements like this and then what is a cheaper bill when it comes to real legislative and legal outcomes? well, sure, i mean, let's just look at the whole issue of immigration as one obvious example of this. it is obviously the case that present electronic has promised a lot of sweeping change street immigration, nasty for patients and all that kind of thing. the fact of the matter is that emigrants to help legal rights in this country, irrespective of whether they are legal migrants or not. and so there are issues of jew processor on that people are entitled to claim asylum. for example, whether or not they entered the country legally or not. so in that kind of case, i think there will be challenges both in the legal sense, but also in a logistical sense. obviously, you cannot carry guard mass deportations of millions of people on day one of the

preston's elect is fond of. say, you have any doubt that president trump doesn't actually believe what he says when he's going to deploy the military. he's going to deploy natural resources to d port, significant numbers of people very early. i mean, i think steven miller, one of his key advisors is very committed to that and to ceiling the border. and i have to say that among republicans, this is very, very popular. but amongst some democrats as popular to, oh yeah, absolutely. i mean there is no question the immigration was a strong issue for president elect trump in november's election. and it was one where democrats struggled not just partly because we have seen record numbers crossing the southern border, dating back to around december last year, which when it hit its high point, the bite and administration were talking about how those numbers have declined since then. but there is no question at all that elect, totally speaking, a harder, more hawkish approach on border security is popular. chevy. let me ask you about other dimensions of uh, president trump summit montage that we just had there,

you know, from eaves and, you know, drilling for more oil and gas and repealing a lot of bite and edicts and executive orders on this. you know, you've written so eloquently and expansively on lots of presidents and i'd love to just get a snapshot from you on how you sort of see donald trump's, you know, beginning his, his early punctuation point and how it compares to other early punctuation points of other presidents, hello steve, thank you for having me. and we have seen and have a lucian in recent years from a legislative present presidency. it's really administrative presidency. presidents come in and say they're going to do this on day one. do that on day one and with the executive orders, they can do a great deal. now it may not be lasting. so the things that i didn't did the, the administrative state trunk can undo. but that doesn't mean that whatever trunk does will last beyond his next democratic successor. so i think there are a lot of things that binding put into place regarding energy drilling limitations,

for example, or encouraging people to come in illegally through the southern border that trump can put a stop to the question is, what's the going to be able to do legislatively and the 2 big things that i think are number one on his docket are, what are you going to do about taxes because taxes will automatically go up if you don't change the current pathway. and the 2nd thing is, can you reform the immigration system to a system that's more work? well, you know, president trump is known to have undermined the last bi partisan, almost a republican lead legislative deal on immigration in the last congress. right. so it was senator langford from oklahoma. that was the lead on that. and donald trump wanted to run against the problem not run, fixing it now to be fair. i remember i was, you know, john sweeney of the president of the a f l. c, i o, the american federation of labor once told me when i worked in the senate, you know, this is not the time to fix problems. this is the time to complain when he was

fighting against the republican administration. so i don't want to say that donald trump is just unique in that. but when you kind of look at that last deal that they had, do you, you know, just in your sense of things and you sort and government offer republican administration. do you think they're going to resurrect that bi partisan deal? and i think there is a bi partisan deal to be had i worked the chit to your point. i worked with george w bush in the white house on his immigration reform that came really tantalizing close. and then henry reed, who was the democratic leader and did it, and combusted in large part because of what you're saying. they wanted the problem more than the solution. so i think late in the president cycle as the length for deal came, is more likely a time when you talk about problems in early and presidents term is a long time when you're more likely to look at solutions. so i think there's a greater chance now of some kind of bi partisan deal. then later in the present start. as we talk about this, what are your kind of historical lessons that you've learned about what it means

when you think you've got control, but may be less than you think if you're the president. so i think the presidents do typically try to take as much expensive action as possible, but not as the case because they know it tends to be very short lived. sure, if we could go back to president obama, for example. it was those strong majorities that left him try to at least push for expanded health care. no, it was on a normal spiteful together through yours. you will remember censor. ted kennedy died and the democrats law support had previously been considered a very safe seat in massachusetts. and so you got into this whole issue of sort of congressional dealing with making and horse trading. but look, i do think that for any press and particularly want to serve in a 2nd term as will be the case for mr. trump, you've got to use the political capital pretty quickly because of the fleets very fast, whether that is through congressional losses, or whether that is through the awareness that

a president is approaching the end of his term to be one of the other day one. commitments at the present is made as universal terrace, not just shutting down, immigration by shutting down a lot of trade essentially, but tariffs, canada, mexico, much of the world. and i think there are a lot of people out there that are think is the serious cuz that could start a very serious global trade war, or is it going to be national security directed or directed a certain industries? and frankly, i'll be honest with the the public right now watching this, you hear different things from different corners of the trump administration. but what are your thoughts on day one terrace? well, i love the way and given your expertise on the trade subjects, but i will say that there is a possibility that he's using it as a negotiating chip, especially with the mexicans and the canadians. he wants border controls and he warns them that it will do a terrorist unless they change the way they are approaching the border situation. i think he's more serious about it with the chinese and he will note that the binding

ministration kept many of his tariffs on china. so i think, you know, we feel like we're back in the 19th century with the tariff as a, as a weapon that the, the president can deployed. and i personally lean more towards than the free trade camp. but if other countries aren't going to free trade, i see why it presents from once you use this more as a, as a tool to see if we can get better trade deals. do you think that there's a real sensitivity out there that many americans, that, that donald trump could even potentially lose a lot of a supporters if he doesn't solve, you know, the price of goods problem and the way people are, you know, buying things and seeing what the cost of things are and bringing that somehow under control. and at the same time wanting to oppose terrace, which to me just sounds inflationary immediately, but your thoughts heavy and loved it. yours as well. now now this is my 1st thought on this is that uh stephen moore and larry to lower big advisors to trump economically. and they have this animal spirits theory, which it is that if you not only reduce regulations,

but also signal to business that it's going to be a business friendly and innovation friendly environment. you will see economic gains and that doesn't even require any real policy changes. and so i think he believes that he'll get some benefit from that. and there was some of the evidence of the animal spirits in the, in the 1st truck to our term. and then you get to these questions and try to terrace, which as you say, could be inflationary. then there's a issue of the tax cuts that are going to go away. obviously we have this massive budget debt and that needs to be addressed, although neither of harris nor trout, nor buying signaled any real seriousness about going about changing it. so there are some larger underlying economic issues, but i think trump's gonna focus initially on the animal spirits and releasing them . now what are your thoughts about animal spirit and you know, and, and i, i find it passing. i've heard steven more, a speak to this has to have you said, and at the same time, when you look at the markets and what they're anticipating from trump, the markets, the stock market and others are booming. there's a lot of anticipation of this,

and i'm just wondering when will the crash come when, when will gravity hit? well, admit may hit sooner rather than later. the stock market has been a bit shopping in the very recent past. but look, i think a couple of points here. one, we started this conversation talking about all the things that president trump has promised to do on day one, in relation to price increases and inflation on the price of groceries. he is actually backed away from that slightly. a more recent comments talking about how does up might take a little while. i'm 2nd of all this topic of raising prices is one, the cuts against his protectionist america. first instinct, because tariffs are viewed almost universally, not completely universally, but almost universally by economist as likely to increase in inflation. the pressures as the power of gets passed along to american consumers. so i think there's a really interesting intersection on clash of function impulses that savvy is just impossible to think about this moment without thinking about the lawn mosque. and

donald trump over each other's best bodies right now. i mean, it looks to me like maybe it'll go well, but it could also blow up and add another chapter, forcing you to revise your book, but your thoughts on their relationship? well, i think i did time the both the power of money, right? because of the heavy involvement of seo isn't particularly the lot most in this 2nd trump term. i think the incentives are for both of them to sticks together. right now. uh trump benefits from muskets celebrity and he did so on the campaign trail as well as the dogs can get some savings or even if the judge helps release the animal spirits. i think that's all good for trump, obviously for musk, it's a good thing for him. to have that presence in the white house, it was not hostile to him as buying was a bite and had a summit. and electric vehicles didn't even invite most, which kind of hurts buske. and then um, there was a whole bunch of enforcement actions that were taking place against my companies in the, by, in years. so i think both of them have incentive to work together and stick together

. and despite steve bands, best interest, i see this alliance sticking together for now, do you think you are in moscow pay a price in donald trump's commitment and subsidies and the electric vehicle mandate? and i think that the tesla already has a big edge in the electric may have been on market. so if they were to reduce subsidies, tesla still has the have the leg up. so i, i don't think that's the, the major concern for most grades now. but you're, you're right that most has benefited from government large. yes. over the years obama went to visit space x when he was president and info. busy canada and then obviously i'm green subsidies. did he help lead to the rise of tesla? so must may have some challenges that are on the other hand, must can face headwinds. if government treats him a poorly like they did in the bind years and more investigations, and as many companies are a potential problem for it as well. now, what are your thoughts in the foreign policy point?

and donald trump is a disrupt, or is it discontinuous? force, would you say in political science, the moment of discontinuity, or do you see him continuing some of the things that i did, he may continue or something, but i do think he is fundamentally a disruptive force. not only you create in question. i think that is one of the clearest elements and all of that we were used to the republican party typically being the more hawkish, more intervention of broadly speaking. and forum wars, donald trump has re made the republican party in a much more trump the image and not way a party that there's not in many parts skeptical of continuing a to train up the cadence and clip levels has been going up. i think that will obviously create a pressure for the ukrainians to step last conflict, even up the cost of some of their territory. i'm in the middle east briefly it's, it's been really interesting to me, steve, very recently reading coverage in the is really me the suggested that trump on his

new mid east on voice steve with cough have actually put a bit of pressure on the is really go from want to come to a $65.00 do we didn't necessarily expect that and i think it goes to your point about the disruptive and us on the it looks like they are. pressure may have worked way up your body of this pressure disease, president, right, supplying a weapon so that they go by and see the unable to shift the course of is really prime minister netanyahu one way or the other bit appears to be. and certainly that's the talk in israel, it's showing us that pressure has really ex salary of this process to make some of the concessions. i've never really on, on, on very, you know, stuff that's pretty deep in the winds of a cease fire agreement. but is movement all the se, kevvy? i can't help it ask you because you, you know, follow so many other presidencies. and of course, we know the present carter just recently passed away at a 100 years old and had returned the panama canal back to it's, you know, national boundaries you know, inside panama. and i'm just interested in donald trump's desires to require

the panama canal to acquire greenland for national security reasons, which is essentially controlled and owned by denmark. although many people in greenland don't see it that way, but you've got very and then and then talk to you about that, you know, from district tragic to go just resign a is resigning from the leadership of his party. but as governor to go and talking about can is a 50 for state. i'm interested in this because one of the big geo political challenges in the world right now from the us perspective is china. but if you offend all your friends in that process, how do you actually put up any weight against china, debbie, or? yeah, it also russia. i mean if the u. s. claims that the national security concerns required to take greenland while it was, you know, what's the account argument against russia and ukraine? but i think the, your china, taiwan, right, or china it's, i want no return. so one of the, the interesting here, the thing going on here is that, you know,

maybe at the end of the trunk term we'll have $54.00 states, you know, we can of canada and greenland in panama and israel. and so it could be a very uh, imperialist era, expansive, soon as presidency like. i don't think that is serious about taking over those countries who usually use this stuff as negotiating play. and i think got jared questionnaires more from the 1st term was i think and justly neglected because of a lot of bitterness about who trump is and who the customer is. but the fact is, it was very revealing about the way trunk goes into negotiations about the way trump will use his big pronouncements or his tweets. while other of his people are involved in negotiations. i mean, it is not just a distraction strategy, but it's a strategy that's designed to kind of upset the apple cart and maybe even go stations go more favorably to after. the apple cart has been upset. our, we've kind of regressing from kind of an empirical research based professional management of national problems health care. do you worry about that at all with

some of the appointments, particularly of robert f. kennedy at h h. s, which you used to help run? yeah, i'm not worried about that, per se. i think there has been a sense of the last couple of years that were not necessarily um, served perfectly by experts. there's been a long populous strain on the radio. been built, buckley famously said he'd rather be ruled by the 1st 2000 names, and they taught cambridge cover books and by the harvard faculty. so i don't think there's a, necessarily, a new attitude in american politics. but you know, obviously there are facts in the world, the things line is that fact so stubborn things. and i would like all of our experts on all sides we, i would really adhere to them. i think we'd be better off that way this at now, one of the other interesting dimples. right? this right now is that you know, some of the leading icons of the mog, a movement to make america great. again, movement are steep band and they are for rushes, slee committed to ceiling,

the border to keeping immigrants out, including highly skilled immigrants, and h one b visas and a split has happened between that crowd and ely unmasking vac, rama swami who were very, very focused on defending price, highly skilled, educated immigrants coming in under visa. and donald trump for this moment of supporting them and not the band. and i'm really fascinated by the tech tonics of this particular ripped in the republican, this option. what can you tell us? i think is one of the key risks that we've seen so far because a lot of dollars is place. the nationalist, which is essentially the steve found on faction against a more business friendly faction. not bonnen would argue, i think that he is the real keeper of the mag a flame and not the way that the mag a movement was largely about right wing populism. the idea is that a corporate deletes, we're taking advantage of the playing people of america and so on and so forth. and

so he sees those h one b visas for example. as a way that's been very, very rich people kind of import labor from overseas, even if it's skilled labor and keep labor costs done, thus depriving nature for an americans of the wages, but they would otherwise earn enough cuz of economic swami and increasingly mr. trump, do not see it that way at all, and arguing that it is important for american innovation. are you surprised that trump took their side some walk? because i think instinctively, if he is more on the bottom side of the argument. but i think that, you know, we learned most clearly houses are in quite a big with and what do you think donald trump could make a few of those compromises and actually lose his base for is base with him through thick. and then i tend to think his basis so personally attached to him that they would support them through a lot of changes unless the underlying economic conditions were to go badly. real heavy. i want to ask you an unfair and final question here. what are you looking at?

what are you looking for as distinctive features and defining features of this presidency? so that we can look beyond the bluster look beyond, you know, some of the surface noise of covering what really matters. and what would you tell our watchers? they should be watching for in the future of this trump presidency. well, i would say i you mention when i'm watching. susie whiles she is the chief of staff, trump is levels her, the ice maiden. she did a very good job of tapping down in finding leaking and a lot of noise in the trunk campaign. and she's thinking that she wants to do the same in the trump administration. the 2nd trump administration. well, trump had for chief of staff last time and they were unable to assert control over the in fighting over the leaking. so she is manages to hold on and to keep her position and to keep a tight rein on the process that i think you'll have a better run trump administration and the 1st one. well, there we have it. great discussion,

gentleman ronald reagan institute senior fellow tevye, troy in the hills, whitehouse column this now spanish. thank you so much for being with us today. thank you. so what's the bottom line? president, donald trump, the sequel is going to be a wild ride. some of the time, there are huge gaps between his hyperbolic speeches, an actual achievable policy reality. but sometimes those gaps are small. he said that he wants to deploy the military to remove folks who don't have residency documents from the united states. he might just do that. we've heard from him that he wants vengeance against his enemies and those that opposed him in congress on the january 6th committee, even from his own party. he may go after them with fully legal investigations by the f b i n department of justice. despite the horrific fires in los angeles, trump has threatened, california is governor a democrat, to cut off bonds, possibly to fight those fires and aid to those families. he may just do that, but he hasn't yet finding that vain of what's real and what's bluster is going to

be a constant effort over the next 4 years. and that's the bottom line, the unique perspectives. what could my community be gaining if we weren't spending money on all of those bonds, killing notices, and that was $11.00 on, on her voices. the world has turned its back on so that our lives to match. so many people matter just as much as the other, connect with our community and be part of the conversation. we feel very unsafe because of the 2nd 12 presidency. they don't see the need and then trying to a piece of people on social media. the stream on out to 0 the, the,

there's no limit to how a dream continue to study in your own adventure now counter and the . ready time sammy's iodine in tao. how is that? look at the headlines here now just say are now is ready, falls is still kidding. palestinians across golf and $82.00 days off to agreeing to receive 5 deal. funeral prize have been held in hon. you and this off to the nicest is right, the attacks on the south of the strip is ready forces have killed at least a $101.00 palestinian since the deal was announced on wednesday. thought about zoom reports on the latest attacks from data by. there's no sort of capacity for the car

on the ground or tax that has been conducted by the is really a ground forces and the fight to get. i'm to focus as we have been mentioning, the full has been on the main densely populated.