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so then said, nationwide anti government protest, welcome to the hundreds of people which i owed this week to run the united states. and that's the surprise deal. a prison to release in exchange for sanctions relief . the bite and administration will take cuba off that state sponsors of terrorism list. the measure has scared international banks away from the island. further clogging up, it's more around the economy. as far as the ministration never provided evidence to support its tyra claim that humor support of that and uh, 40 years ago, i think it was undeniable that cuba supports that sort of thing today is absurd to what has neither the method aside the the means to do such a thing, nor any information to do so, and that's why we see no evidence provided by the united states as and these days to quit for quote, a valuable release, more than 500 prisoners, many of whom were involved in the protests. see
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a permanent dissonant jose down here that was released on thursday was on the all right, hold on. i'll continue to do what i've always done site for freedom, democracy and respect to the human rights of my people. it odyssey son was sentenced for 12 years for throwing stones and bustles that police. that's what i mean daily. why do i think he's a political prisoner because they sentenced him to so many years in prison and physician, the protests were not passed, resulting from precedence. it economically, which helps me to discuss these people with protesting against elizabeth leo, and it has 3 sons in prison. she sees no feature of them in cuba, even if they all released still, she's glad the embargo will be self and some of the most other office of the way, the ones that go hungry because of the duplicate, not the government. the button administration argued you refreshing in cuba meant it couldn't from us trump or a sanctions. in fact, the decision to stick this comp policy is taking the full bite and was even sworn
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in as president as christmas. finally, return home stricken families, get the nation around a 1000 people in this neighborhood have been released that he's got to speak for that 1000 and stuff in boxes. oh no. well, i mean, i've hardly slept the last few days, but thank god, today my son is finally back home. i thought it was hope dispute was a 900 handling of these protests that with the trump administration about to take power on. let's say these last minute measures likely to be quick to reversed. they weren't actually improved lots of these long suffering people at augusta houses 0. and that's it for me. money inside sale. brockman will be here in around the vehicle, choose solutions that gives us know for
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a future that we have to find creative solutions. not just turn our backs on the don't think that has a number. think about it as a person yourself and that person shoes. so as you can see for this is my us, my life. earliest in my life, those stages we want we want to break because the women and my country deadlocks. we come up to one. we are nothing either all or 2. we are human beings on this earth to be trees in the footsteps. our ancestors, whatever has been done before, can be done as long as a human being is doing it. you just have to keep pushing because no one else can see. the vision is keywords you a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. trump's agenda includes everything from tax cuts to immigration,
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but how much is real and how much is bluster? let's get to the bottom line. the paid for things couldn't look rosier for incoming us president donald trump, his party controls really all the branches of government and he's defeated his opposition soundly. last time he won, the democrats, considered him an illegitimate and dangerous president, and many form what was called the resistance. this time around. there's no such thing. most of his day, one talking points focus on tariffs, ceiling, the country southern border with mexico carrying out the quote, largest mass deportation operation in american history. some of his executive orders can be effective right away, but somebody gets stuck in the legislature or courts for years. so what exactly is the trump agenda and how much of it is really doable? today we're talking with heavy troy, a former us deputy secretary of health and human services and author of several
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books on presidential history. most recently, the power and the money, the epic clashes between commanders and cheap and titans of industry. and here with me in the studio is now spanish, the white house calling this for the hill. thank you both for joining us today. we have an audio ration that is, that is happening. we've got a new president coming in a new era. i think i'd like to hear a little bit from president trump on what he says he's going to do on day one. let's listen one day one. i will launch the largest the port taishan program in american history. criminals. i will rescue every city in town that has been invaded in congress. they took away 625000000 acres of offshore drilling. nobody else does it. and they think they have it, but do it. we'll put it back. i'm going to put it back on day one. i'm gonna have it revoked on day one, and i will end the electric vehicle mandate on day one. thereby saving the
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us auto industry for complete obliteration. with a stroke of my pin or day one, we're going to stop the trans gender lunacy. i will band refugee resettlement from tara infested areas like the gaza strip. we will restore the travel band, some people call it the trump traveled in deep the radical islamic terrace out of our country. no, i want you to give our audience a sense of the difference between statements, like we just heard and, and, and donald trump maybe very, very committed to all of these good goals and actually try and deal with them on day one. but the difference between sort of hyperbole and statements like this and then what is a cheaper bill when it comes to real legislative and legal outcomes? well, sure, i mean, let's just look at the whole issue of immigration as one obvious example of this.
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it is obviously the case, the present electron has promised a lot of sweeping change street immigration mass, p for patients and all that kind of thing. the fact of the matter is that emigrants to help legal rights in this country, irrespective of whether they are legal migrants or not. and so there are issues of ju process or on that people are entitled to claim asylum. for example, whether or not they entered the country legally or not. so in that kind of case, i think there will be challenges both in a legal sense, but also in a logistical sense. obviously, you cannot carry guard mass deportations of millions of people on day one of the preston's elect is fond of. say, you have any doubt that president trump doesn't actually believe what he says when he's going to deploy the military. he's going to deploy natural resources to d port, significant numbers of people very early. i mean, i think steven miller, one of his key advisors is very committed to that and to ceiling the border. and i
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have to say that among republicans, this is very, very popular. but amongst some democrats is popular to, oh yeah, absolutely. i mean there is no question the immigration was a strong issue for president elect trump in november's election. and it was a long where democrats struggled not just partly because we have seen record numbers crossing the southern border, dating back to around december last year, which when it hit its high point, the biden administration would talk about how those numbers have declined since then. but there is no question at all that elect, totally speaking, a harder, more hawkish approach on border security is popular. chevy. let me ask you about other dimensions of uh, president trump summit montage that we just had there, you know, from eaves and, you know, drilling for more oil and gas and repealing a lot of bite and edicts and executive orders on this. you know, you've written so eloquently and expansively on lots of presidents and i'd love to just get a snapshot from you on how you sort of see donald trump's, you know,
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beginning his, his early punctuation point and how it compares to other early punctuation points of other presidents oh steve, thank you for having me. and we have seen and have a lucian in recent years from a legislative present presidency tribune administrative presidency. presidents come in and say they're going to do this on day one. do that on day one and with the executive orders, they can do a great deal. now it may not be lasting. so the things that i didn't did the, the administrative state trunk can undo. but that doesn't mean that whatever trunk does will last beyond his next democratic successor. so i think there are a lot of things that bind him put into place regarding energy drilling limitations, for example, or encouraging people to come in illegally through the southern border that trump 10 put a stop to the question is, what's the going to be able to do legislatively and the 2 big things that i think are number one on his docket are, what are you going to do about taxes because taxes will automatically go up if you don't change the current pathway. and the 2nd thing is,
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can you reform the immigration system to a system that's more work? well, you know, president trump is known to have undermined the last bi partisan, almost republican lead legislative deal on immigration in the last congress. right . so it was senator langford from oklahoma. that was the lead on that. and donald trump wanted to run against the problem not run, fixing it now to be fair. i remember i was, you know, john sweeney of the president of the a f l. c, i o, the american federation of labor once told me when i worked in the senate, you know, this is not the time to fix problems. this is the time to complain when he was fighting against the republican administration. so i don't want to say that donald trump is just unique in that. but when you kind of look at that last deal that they had, do you, you know, just in your sense of things and you start in government, offer republican administration. do you think they're going to resurrect that bi partisan deal? and i think there is a bi partisan deal to be had i worked irritate to your point. i worked with george
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w bush in the white house on his immigration reform that came really tantalizing close. and then henry reed, who was the democratic leader and did it, and combusted in large part because of what you're saying. they wanted the problem more than the solution. so i think late in the president cycle as the length for deal came, is more likely to time when you talk about problems in early and a president's term is all the time when you're more likely to look at solutions. so i think there's a greater chance now of some kind of bi partisan deal. then later in the present start. as we talk about this, what are your kind of historical lessons that you've learned about what it means when you think you've got control, but may be less than you think if you're the president. so i think that presidents do typically try to take as much expensive action as possible, but not as the case because they know it tends to be very short lived. sure, if we could go back to president obama, for example. it was those strong majorities that left him try to at least push for
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expand the health care. no, it was on a normal, spiteful to get it through. yes, you will remember censor. ted kennedy died and the democrats law support had previously been considered a very safe seat in massachusetts. and so you're going to enter this whole history of the sort of congressional dealing with making and horse trading. but look, i do think that for any press and particularly want to serve in a 2nd term, as will be the case for mr. trump, you've got to use the political capital pretty quickly because of the fleets very fast, whether that is through congressional losses, or whether that is through the awareness that our president is approaching the end of his term to be one of the other day one. commitments at the present is made as universal terrorist, not just shutting down immigration by shutting down a lot of trade essentially. but tariffs, canada, mexico, much of the world. and i think there are a lot of people out there there's think is the serious cuz that could start a very serious global trade war,
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or is it going to be national security directed or directed in certain industries? and frankly, i'll be honest with the the public right now watching this, you hear different things from different corners of the trump administration. but what are your thoughts on day one task? well, i love to weigh in giving your expertise on the trade subjects, but i will say that there is a possibility that he's using it as a negotiating chip, especially with the mexicans and the canadians. he wants border controls and he warns them that he'll do a terrorist unless they change the way they are approaching the border situation. i think he's more serious about it with the chinese and he will note that the binding ministration kept many of his tariffs on china. so i think uh, you know, we feel like we're back in the 19th century with the tariff as a, as a weapon. ready the, the president can deployed, and i personally lean more towards than the free trade camp. but if other countries aren't going to free trade, i see why presents from once you use this more as a,
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as a tool to see if we can get better trade deals. do you think there's a real sensitivity out there that many americans that, that donald trump could even potentially lose a lot of supporters if he doesn't solve, you know, the price of goods problem and the way people are, you know, buying things and seeing what the cost of things are and bringing that somehow under control, and at the same time wanting to oppose terrace, which to me just sounds inflationary immediately, but your thoughts heavy and loved it years as well. now now this is my 1st thought on this is that stephen moore and larry tallow are big advisors to trump economically. and they have this animal spirits theory, which is that if you not only reduced regulations, but also signal to business that it's going to be a business friendly and innovation friendly environment. you will see economic gains and that doesn't even require any real policy changes. and so i think he believes that he'll get some benefit from that, and there was some evidence of the animal spirits in the, in the 1st truck to our term. and then you get to these questions and try to terrace, which as you say, could be inflationary. then there's
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a issue of the tax cuts that are going to go away. obviously we have this massive budget debt and that needs to be addressed, although neither of harris nor trout, nor buying signaled any real seriousness about going about changing it. so there are some larger underlying economic issues, but i think trump is gonna focus initially on the animal spirits and releasing them . now what are your thoughts about animal spirits? you know, and, and i, i find it passing. i've heard steven more, a speak to this has to be a said. and at the same time, when you look at the markets and what they're anticipating from trump, the markets, the stock market and others are booming. there's a lot of anticipation of this, and i'm just wondering when will the crash come when, when will gravity hit? well admitted may have sooner rather than later. the stock market has been a bit shopping in the very recent past. but look, i think a couple of points here when we started this conversation, talking about all the things that president trump has promised to do on day one, in relation to price increases and inflation on the price of groceries. he is
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actually backed away from not slightly a more recent comments, talking about how his up might take a little while. i'm 2nd of all this topic of raising prices is one, the cuts against his protectionist america. first instinct, because tariffs are viewed almost universally, not completely universally, but almost universally by economist as likely to increase inflation. the pressures as the power of gets passed along to american consumers joy. i think there's a really interesting intersection on clash of function impulses that savvy is just impossible to think about this moment without thinking about eli and mosque. and donald trump over each other's best buddies. right now. i mean, it looks to me like maybe it'll go well, but it could also blow up and add another chapter, forcing you to revise your book. but your thoughts on their relationship? well, i think i did time the both the power of money, right? because of the heavy involvement of ceos and particularly the law must in this 2nd
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trump term, i think the incentives are for both of them to sticks together. right now. uh trump benefits from most celebrity and he did so on the campaign trail as well as the dogs can get some savings or even if the judge helps release the animal spirits. i think that's all good for trump, obviously for musk, it's a good thing for him. to have that presence in the white house who was not hostile to him as biden was, went by and had a summit. and electric vehicles didn't even invite most of which kind of hurts buske. and then um, there was a whole bunch of enforcement actions that were taking place against my companies in the, by, in years. so i think both of them have incentive to work together and stick together . and despite the bends, best interest, i see it was a lie and sticking together for now, do you think you are in moscow pay a price in donald trump's commitment and subsidies and the electric vehicle mandate? i think that the test already has a big edge in the electric may have been on market. so if they were to reduce
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subsidies, tests was still has the have the leg up. so i, i don't think that's the major concern for most grades now. but down here, you're right, that most has benefited from government large us. over the years, obama went to visit space x. when he was president in florida. and then obviously i'm green subsidies. did he help lead to the rise of tesla? so must may have some challenges there. on the other hand, must can face headwinds, is government treats in a poorly like they did in the bind years and more investigations. and as many companies are a potential problem for it as well. now what are your thoughts on the foreign policy point? and donald trump is a disrupt, or is it discontinuous force? would you say in political science, the moment of discontinuity, or do you see him continuing some of the things that by did, he may continue or something, but i do think he is fundamentally a disruptive force. not only you create in question. i think that is one of the clearest elements and all of that we were used to the republican party typically
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being the more hawkish, more interventionist, broadly speaking. and farnham wars donald trump has re made the republican party in a much more from the image and not way a party that there's no in many parts skeptical of continuing a to train up the cadence. some clip that has been going up. i think that will obviously create a pressure for the ukrainians to step last conflict, even up the cost of some of their territory. i'm in the middle east in briefly. it has been really interesting to me, steve, very recently reading coverage and the is really media suggested that trump on his new mid east on voice steve with coff has actually put a bit of pressure on the is really go from want to come to a ceasefire. do we didn't necessarily expect that, and i think it goes to your point about the disruptive and us on the it looks like their pressure may have worked well if you are part of this pressure disease, president, right? supplying
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a weapon so that they go by and see the unable to shift the course of is really prime minister netanyahu one way or the other been appears to be. and certainly that's the talk in israel, of some of that pressure has really ex salary us on this process to make some of the concessions. i've never really on, on, on very, you know, stuff. it's pretty deep in the winds of a cease fire agreement is movement all the say, kathy, i can't help it ask you because you, you know, follow so many other presidencies. and of course we know of the present. carter just recently passed away at a 100 years old and had returned the panama canal, back to it's, you know, national boundaries you know, inside panama. and i'm just interested in donald trump's desires to require the panama canal to acquire greenland for national security reasons, which is essentially controlled and owned by denmark. although many people in greenland don't see it that way, but you've got very and then and then talk to you about the, you know, prime minister tragic to go just resign a is resigning from the leadership of his party. but as governor to go and talking
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about can is a 50 for state. i'm interested in this because one of the big geo political challenges in the world right now from the us perspective is china. but if you offend all your friends in that process, how do you actually put up any weight against china, debbie? yeah, it also russia. i mean if the u. s. claims that the national security concerns required to take greenland was, you know, what's the account argument against russia and ukraine? but i think the, your china, taiwan, right, or china is i want no returns or what. but the, the interesting here, the thing going on here is that, you know, maybe at the end of the trunk term we'll have 54 states, you know, region of canada and greenland in panama and israel. and so it could be very uh, imperialist era, expansive, soon as presents the like, i don't think that is serious about taking over those countries who usually use this stuff hasn't negotiating play. i think got jared questionnaires more from the 1st term was i think and justly neglected because of
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a lot of bitterness about who trump isn't who the customer is. but the fact is, it was very revealing about the way trunk goes into negotiations about the way trump will use his big pronouncements or his tweets. while other of his people are involved in negotiations. i mean, it is not just a distraction strategy, but it's a strategy that's designed to kind of upset the apple cart and maybe even go, sions go more favorably to you after the apple cart has been upset. our, we kind of regressing from kind of an empirical research based professional management of national problems health care. do you worry about that at all with some of the appointments, particularly of robert f. kennedy at h h. s, which you use to help run? yeah, i'm not worried about that, per se. i think there has been a sense of the last couple of years that were not necessarily um, served part perfectly by experts. there's been a long populous strain on the radio. they'll luckily,
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famously said he'd rather be ruled by the 1st 2000 names and they con cambridge cover books and by the harvard faculty. so i don't think there's a, necessarily, a new attitude in american politics. but, you know, obviously there are facts in the world. the things line is that fact, so stubborn things. and i would like all of our experts on all sides of the aisle what we did here to them. i think we'd be better off that way. us at now. one of the other interesting dimples. right? this right now is that, you know, some of the leading icons of the mog, a movement to make america great. again, movement are steep band and they are for rushes. slee, committed to ceiling the border to keeping immigrants out, including highly skilled immigrants, an h one b visas, and a split has happened between that crowd and eli and mosque and feedback. rama swami who were very, very focused on defending price, highly skilled, educated immigrants coming in under visa. and donald trump for this moment of
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supporting them and not the band. and i'm really fascinated by the tectonics of this particular ripped. in the republican this option, what can you tell us? i think is one of the key risks that we've seen so far because what it does is place the nationalist, which is essentially the steve found on faction against a more business friendly faction. no bonnen would argue, i think that he is the real key part of the mag, aflame and not the way that the magazine movement was largely about right wing populism. the idea that a corporate deletes, we're taking advantage of the playing people of america and so on. and so forth. and so he sees those h one b visas for example. as a way that's been very, very rich people kind of import labor from overseas even if it's skilled labor and cheap labor costs done, thus depriving the nation for an americans of the wages, but they would otherwise earn enough cuz of economic swami and increasingly mr. trump, do not see
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a thought way at all and arguing that it is important for american innovation. are you surprised that trump took their side some walk? because i think instinctively, if he is more on the bottom side of the argument. but i think that, you know, we learned most clearly houses are in quite a big way of some of you think donald trump could make a few of those compromises and actually lose his base for is base with him through thick. and then i tend to think his basis so personally attached to him that they would support them through a lot of changes unless the underlying economic conditions were to go badly. real heavy. i want to ask you an unfair and final question here. what are you looking at? what are you looking for as distinctive features and defining features of this presidency? so that we can look beyond the bluster look beyond, you know, some of the surface noise of covering what really matters. and what would you tell our watchers? they should be watching for in the future of this trump presidency. well,
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i would say i, you mentioned when i'm watching. susie whiles she is the chief of staff, trump is levels her, the ice maiden. she did a very good job of tapping down in finding leaking and a lot of noise in the trunk campaign. and she's thinking that she wants to do the same in the trump administration. the 2nd trump administration. well, trump had for chief of staff last time and they were unable to assert control over the in fighting over the leaking. so she is manages to hold on and to keep her position and to keep a tight rein on the process that i think you'll have a better run trump administration and the 1st one. well, there we have it. great discussion, gentleman ronald reagan institute senior fellow tevye, troy in the hills, whitehouse column this now spanish. thank you so much for being with us today. thank you. so what's the bottom line? president, donald trump, the sequel is going to be a wild ride. some of the time, there are huge gaps between his hyperbolic speeches, an actual achievable policy reality. but sometimes those gaps are small. he said
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that he wants to deploy the military to remove folks who don't have residency documents from the united states. he might just do that. we've heard from him that he wants vengeance against as enemies and those that opposed him in congress on the january 6th committee, even from his own party. he may go after them with fully legal investigations by the f b i n department of justice. despite the horrific fires in los angeles, trump has written, california is governor a democrat, to cut off bonds, possibly to fight those fires in a to those families. he may just do that, but he hasn't yet finding that vain of what's real and what's bluster is going to be a constant effort over the next 4 years. and that's the bottom line. the after nearly 2 years on the road, these dancers are still committed to winning american hearts and minds. true,
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ukrainian valet. 20 year old nicholas must dance career, began just as russia and dated all the fonts of on program very smart. but we also want to, in turn, this far, we have for good condition. the company's mission will be not only to entertain the audience, but when support from the american public for ukraine. at a critical time, i will have the horrible war between russia and ukraine, settled, president elect. donald trump, has questioned us military aid to ukraine and has vowed to end the war. the question is, how. as the curtain rises on a 2nd to trump presidency, the dancers fear ukraine will be forced to concede territory to russia or that their brothers and fathers to run out of the weapons on the front line. on counting the cost power, donald trump's economic policies affect americans and the rest of the world,
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california as wild fines, or i'm trying to be the costly as natural disaster and us history. we'll look at the numbers. plus britain plans, sanctions targeting people, smugglers, counting the cost on al jazeera the in. in the early hours of november, the eight's violence erupt in between. mccarthy tells the fans and people in amsterdam was an anti semitic attack, or a response to provocation, which is 0 looks at how a street confrontation turned into
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a political flash point. and then the read 19 debates about immigration, religion, and the identity. the full report. i'm still john mccarthy and who to comes on i will just say around the. ready the load so robin, you're watching the out. is it renews online for my headquarters here in doha, coming up in the next 60 minutes. israel says $735.00 palestinian prisoners will be freed under the guards of cease 5 deal hours after the government to prove this is while intensifies as attacks on galls. we're head off, that's the sign killing at least 116 palestinians. since the agreement was announced on wednesday.

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