what kind of country and the world expect a quizzical look of us color to the bottom line. the investigating the use and abuse of power across the globe on outages, era goals, essays by dale, backed by him to us for us and governance world wide about implementing it will mean over coming major obstacles. one of the challenges on what's needed from each side. this is a side story, the hello welcome to the program, the name wrong con. the last title has been the weight of israel to inc. a goes, us east by deal. one that's been agreed by everyone else from us. the us and his role is west and highlights to the un and government's world wide. well,

is ready. politicians globally, it's military, continue to kill with the, for us to be more like the start to milwaukee and as possible. and under the phase deals. how masses to free is ready, captives and exchange policy and even prisoners garza will get to martin's hearing aid. and it's people will be allowed to return to their homes, or at least what's left of them. but in a place at bottom to desolation. how can this be achieved and who will oversee the implementation of the agreement? well here from our panel in a few moments, but 1st this report from a co soon sharif 15 months of is really s twice and rates have depth of state because the many of the palestinians displaced from the homes still want to return the 3 state ceasefire is due to come into effect on january the 19th. during the 1st 6 weeks please is read has agreed to put bucket streams to the outskirts of the strip. allowing people to travel

freely, often during months of unimaginable, however, many are looking forward to reunite things with that. families shall have a vision for where they are. i hope to see my loved ones and brothers and return to my home. even though it's been boomed, we will return to a land. it is enough, desperately needed humanitarian aid was slowing to gauze during this phase 600 trucks a day. do you want to track these have accused as well of obstructing a delta v 's in the pulse by delink trucks at inspection check for an attack and convoys. the transportation of live saving supplies is further complicated, but as well as relentless strikes, which have destroyed drugs and the refuse of mo, looting again, so pat trucks in november, forcing the united nations to call to tell patients to you and cheese. antonio gutierrez has call for any security obstacles to be removed. to mid italian

situation is a gift. this could all seek levels and they called on all parties to facilitate the rapids. and in that it's and safe humanitarian relief for all civilians he needs it as well. families of the captains have been gone south of relief, but anxious. how mazda is to release them in stages. $33.00 initially in exchange for to 1000 palestinian prisoners are going to be happy just and just going to be leaving. just what if i'm going to see that much disease or the 1st thing the florida sees around? i don't know the situation of, of all the hostages. i don't know if all for my cousin is to the live on the other . still the own government jeopardize the dean. i'm afraid that the, our government, especially on the front 4 miles of the the there were do something wrong to stop

the the agreements. us president joe biden propose the ceasefire. d in may last year. but despite intense negotiations, come off and is rather unable to reach an agreement, a failure that's cost more of a senior lives it 8 months since. it's really a tax give $10000.00 palestinians, taking the debt to from the rule to nearly $47000.00. and the consumption entre 0 full inside story the let's bring you know, guess joining us from london is andrew is craig an associate professor at the school of security studies at kings college london in tel. aviv is, you'll see. belen is a form that is where the cabinet minister, who initiated deals with a piece of process in 1992. i think the hot tumbler concludes, who is an so ship as i saw at the doha, is the chief of graduate studies and the oldest of delivering aid without

government a book about the reconstruction of the goals, a strip welcome to old. i'd like to start in tel aviv with a you'll see by then, you'll see this is a phased deal, a phased agreements that will take place over various a several months. but a phase deal is almost certainly going to fail at some point is they still designed to file i hope not. you are right to the phase these a much was then a, a deal which can be, are in between them and good at the thought, the same preferred a phase the d a. i don't understand exactly the about the visions on both sides a but a, this is now the situation. this is the agreement that we have and we should do the the best day in order to assure that it is there implemented and not the breached.

uh, let me come to tom or uh, and they'll have time or you write a book about delivering aid into the goal is that the rich reconstruction of the goal is to strip. that's part of the deal. but there is no way that anybody could have foreseen the sheer amount of damage the israel has ruled on the goal is a strip. this is going to be a decades long process and kind of think might well be able to begin in the phase deal. but because it won't, it won't be completed. and it, i mean, the 2, i mean, 3 out of 10 does a very good in by being the, we're talking about the, the estimates of between $50000000000.00 to $80000000000.00. uh uh we're talking about the, the gates to come forward. does that pretty coverage? uh, not in terms of infrastructure or a. uh, i mean environment sense. i mean, it does the environment that ecosystem has been depleted at,

at the clouds dictates, but it covered. and it's, it's a very good into the, out of the, the many questions also who's going to pay this bill? i mean, the donors community, or, i mean, we know, i mean the, the globe, the donors are facing good. what we call a donut, strategic, you know, with all these conflicts going around and you put in the, now the middle east. and most importantly, even if there is a way to find this because the, the construction of what is the, uh, i mean, i mean, the music loud as guarantee is now in a short and says that the, these funds that will go to the, the construction would not be wasted again and continue in a continuous that can afford. so what i'm trying to say is stability is i must this time and, and, and for me it's not clear yet. i mean there was this, the construction process is gonna kick off because again, in the, at the politically we live in a mess. i mean done substitutions. but it must see,

we see them better because of this a, it is saying they wouldn't be in order construction as long as a message impala or a control of that. but at the same time, definitely we should think what time us because how much the book go away. so tell me if i want to, you've made some very good points that we have. we have time to get into the bowl by one of bringing andreas. hey andreas, you've seen the deal, we've all seen the deal. it's a phase the deal. what, all the pitfalls that you see? the most obvious ones, where could this fail quickly, or is it gonna fall off to the 1st titled off to the 1st phase? so i mean, it's not always why both parties went to the face, the only because they're still, i'm diametrically imposed uh you know, the sides of the device and they have damage of you post objective. so that this kind of deal is as good as a guess. i'm, but that's the honest you haven't for the, for, for now this is a hostage. i hope this, let's press the exchange deal. this is not as the final deal. there will be

a truce attached to the exchange of princes, but if you look at the rep for it, if you look at the 10 particular on the side of israel, that is really government. there is no real intent to bring no more to that. and there are quite a lot of stepping stones along the way, if you get the greatest concession, i think that how much is made. oh, you know, really law, some of the deals are going to be headed. the 1st instance is that they have long as got to remain within the gaza strip. so we haven't been faced withdrawal. but in phase one is the we don't even have yet a phase one is the will remain within, especially within the next summer in cordele. and if you then look at phase 2, which is extremely and big was already even then, israel has a lot of sort of leave it as it can use to. roommate. surveys doesn't bring the whole tube as per se is kind of crazy. sitting a window. busy to for the exchange, all person is a nice thing that as well is talk to the delivery of humanitarian aid. and here's another issue. you're turn 8 can be pulled into the gun and strip,

but how it will be distribution, how it will be secure without ignore. it wasn't on the ground. the question marks, and if, if one of the deliverable is you montero a and it won't be delivered? well, how much just stop the video and stop the exchange of prisoners because might be that the dealer november 2023 eventually came to that. and so, you know, ultimately optimism is great, but let's be honest. i mean, this is a 1st phase and we have no bridge into face to yet, as you'll see, let me bring you in here. one of the problems with this deal, why was so difficult to get in the 1st place was internal is riley politics the far right minutes that has been good there, and that is all smart trades opposed to this deal completely. they all still are forced to be reckoned with and his right politics and they looking for the war to continue. how much pressure is that putting on benjamin netanyahu department is so much as been before. i mean the a bell entry before they,

they will read the gun and been feeling sense just said few days ago that he was the one who prevented a de agreements from a being a signed in the past. and the government, the one hand has a the majority, but he doesn't need the majority because the position we know how to do the supple, 30 d, and including of course, the got the car in the. so 1st of all, the then government, it will easily a, implement the dose. i need to him a the end and the exchange of prisoners and hostages will, will happen, or from sunday on for the future. it might be more difficult to fall in it. then you owe a $200.00 disclosure, ition and the, the adult position we gave him, i, i presume. so a a safety list. and so that is not going to do for him. and this is the current

situation. maybe we can make it easier for him. a to accept the deal, but i think that the, the drop effect all a blank, the very bottom drawer. drop is going see the a by a make any out. it's a very close friend, and a, it is peak is difficult to say no to a friend. to, let's bring in tom or head teller is difficult to say no to a find the specs of donald trump over this deal has been very, very large. i mean, he has said himself, we got this deal. this is the exact same deal to bite and had put forward. couldn't get it. what is trump promised? do you think to netanyahu? and is it the arctic station to the occupied west back? uh uh i'm gonna, i mean the completely, we really don't know what, what trump is promising and nothing. yeah. whole. but in reality we see that there

is a major map that is changing in the mid eighties. uh, starting from us uh uh, ending up with uh they've been on and syria and we don't know the snowboard with, with, with it and exactly. we know where the odd that is that on. yeah. and also fax, the. yeah. many fax it as well. uh, i think, i think, i mean in my opinion, i mean i think this, this, this nobody will continue mode of this because obviously the where the drum. uh and, and the nothing. yeah. oh, i agree that there is, there is a need to be a change of plastic change and that agent. uh, and i think the trump is, in my opinion, is willing to have nothing. yeah. and achieving his bowl is more of this. but the thing is, what has the has, i think were where the 2 of them disagree is that as, as the warrant, augusta has exhausted itself. and there is no strategic goals. anyone to go. so the

only the only way to end the conflict and that's the restore the political process between the citizens, ladies goals for the positions. and i think this is where i think this would be the mapping of that. that might be an american proposal that they've been pick ups up and met that does not the proceed satisfied the for the students nor days of age, but saw something would be, would come up on the table for discussion. so one, because the really the other sickly admittedly. i mean, i mean, but it's nothing more that people can kind of cheap them because the destroying come out as has to be a mess. the students i'm not blowing any live will totally pick up on that plan, but let me pick up on that point. yeah. under, that's going to come to you in just a 2nd, but you'll see what we're talking about is a very, very difficult set of negotiations with this time around the americans. and donald trump is a deciding factor almost. where is the, the us as well relationship post, by the way, i think is right now, is it stronger?

it's elizabeth payment to, to judge. i think that the drug is not a comfortable in order to have the time you know, to fulfill his dreams. he may be a soft total in the whole, not necessarily be self stuff, but he may help you in one of the. but then, you know, in the bus was, well, was afraid that even if the other side breeches the agreement, the americans were not to agree to back easy way in retaliation and read then the, the easy way, you know, well it's something up and here's something happened though, don't think that the 8 so quickly because it would destroy the whole structure. and billingsley he got from a drummed a drum is going we shape that was a, he is convinced that how much is breaching that agreement. he, we back easy way in retaliation. now this is the most a,

i would say difficult point in the whole story because as you said before, the extreme right a is make very much of gains stopping the wall. wanted very much to get to, to be sure that the, if there is some breach a is a, will get back to the wall and they, if keith date and the ben hill is between the extreme right. and between a, the trump, i believe that this time it would be more worried about the american side then about today, extreme. or i can usually hundreds. i wanna bring you in here. that is an element to all of this, of robbing peter to pay paul, you go to the sci fi deal and go, that is going to be implemented as these phase $1.00 seems like it's going to happen. but the occupied westbank. there's still a war going on that the fear is that the,

these ratings will shift that focus even more to the occupied westbank. what will that mean? generally speaking for any 65 deal going forward in any other phases or what do you think the 2 things all fairly separate the total set for this, i mean, we face these really have been so occupied with a mouse and dogs and they would fine to call and leave the car to leave someone separate. what happens in the west bank of the patient of wes thing that, oh they said of course that happened in the west and over years and using is separating based on what happens in y'all's image of the you cannot do that and so eventually, and that's why i think the long term if you wanna piece in in golf and if you want to go from face trinity which is about reconstruction, which is about assessing up a political, social, political sort of, uh, associated with this paul element of goblins in, in, in, in got in java, if you want to get to this point, you need to raise essentially

a painting situation, which means at least we'll have a pause. wage was posting and self determination. and the hosting itself determination in this context also means that the situation and the westbound company may, was they actively have to work towards some sort of political solution there as well. because phase 3 is really premise on this to happen. and that's why and so estimates think about this deal that are being implemented, bringing this to been and bring this one to them because it, it will eventually mean you have to get these in the west side. that is also the economy of foundational bases of which the gulf states, for example, will come in bringing money into the as well as well as potentially setting up a social, political, you know, governance mechanism within, within time. even saudi normalization is partners on them making progress at age range, making progress in the opening a road to west coast and instead of in the west. i tell mary i'll bring you in in

the 2nd, but you'll see you in the occupation. you build a palestinian state and all of this just goes away. it's something that you tried to do in 1992 with those low codes that was supposed to be the framework for a future piece they'll. it also has failed. let's be honest. it's a, it's really not really being implemented is the a new way forward. at the end of all of this, in my view day, there is a way, a new way for the new way forward should be into stand solution based on the 67 table. this reach a weekday, a mutual, a land swaps kinda in umbrella often easily, but it's being in configuration. so i think that that might help, hey, a is rarely a decision making a to understand that they can leave the westbank even though some of the a, the simplest would remained. but they would remain on the police didn't in room. and

they, it wouldn't be an end of the a also under the umbrella of the configuration. and i think that if we do something like that and the same number of bodies, because it gives us we'd be allowed to come to the leaving is way as residents, as, as been the residents. and these are alias we leave as well. my name's residential and the police being inside. i think that this may solve the problem because as it was said before, the number of the settlers is a is big. i mean, it is now oregon, oregon to westbank, come from mealy on. if you a to a day it is did, it was a name, it gives more than $200.00 a 1000 a. and they, although some of them all, most of them a will be a next to easily adding a very smaller area. a i think that for the, for the rest of the image would be very difficult to convince any is really feel jump. i mean,

is the who would all what would like to have peace with the police doing? is it to evacuate them so that the, the umbrella offical, ventilation may help us solve the problem? and we have the little do it is you said just now. i mean about it they, they sold. yeah. maybe i about a, the, the amy rates and the bottom, the united states. if a is a mr. trump wants to get to know the piece, no big prize, let him go to and go for a. it's a 10 minute, lots you'll see you saying sounds perfectly reasonable, but reality is, is the israel is an incredibly right wing country right now. and getting any kind of permanent solution is just impossible. i. i don't think it's impossible. it is. um, and it's a nation and well, especially an american. well, again i, uh, well, i agree with the, the, with the, with the you'll see is the text that i need if,

if there is anything from the i can also do to and this conflict. and i believe up this, this no, been the legacy for them. i think it's, it's all welcome, but i think again, whether it's prompt or someone else, the, the american fact it is very important. the us has the to look at this complex strategically meaning that we see all these put them on as ation waves. most important, relevant thought of countries have all to be normalized, but these are the only company that is remaining. guess i'll do the but more of this, which is the key and influential country and that agent. so my, my question, if solve the bad normalizes then, then what we see is that a huge end of the book, which is literally in bed with the us economically, politically, etc. so, so is that right in this sense, if it does not change as b, but an end, more or less, is conflict with that, but as being in reach to adjust the scene,

it would also become a liability. and somehow, somehow to the us, that proficient or to the americans as well. because so far is that it has been justifying this conflict that extension of the land uh as an essential threat. but if the power of you should have more or less acceptance overhead, think that this is accepting is what i had as a country as a neighborhood. then why not with the state of conflict? i think this is, this would be a critical point that a critical junction, if we get to this point, what is the advice that they couldn't even find the time and i can get it uh right away. yeah, yeah, i'm gonna bring in contrast address. you've got to get a point where the international community has the will to get the palestinian state to. that's what old i guess. so you seem to be saying, but the international coalition building isn't as easy as saying, well, so how do you know licensed with israel and that's the final obstacle of is it,

or is it, is that simple? it's not by agreeing with the previous because the g o was to get these relative to anything is us prussia and it costs down to whoever sits in the white house. and the wording is of that precedent to make the less and put the necessary pressure on israel. and i think that's the massive black and white difference that we've seen between button and budget and his version of the trauma destruction. i think i want to. so i'm gonna say that there was agency, i mean, number one, we do need the policy and it's have to solve their own leadership issues. i mean that, that is also part of this is not an external sort of thing of the dress for me against the colorado, the students need to settle their differences internally. secondly, i think the ad will have a new role to play and is the us, especially in the drum, will not lead a strategy because that's not what the problem is interested in. the why the does not a mandate to solve peace or to bring peace to the police. but i think what is important is the goals normally the you a cost on saudi arabia of extensive networks in washington extreme. but he's in an

influence into most of the key brokers. all that from administration will play a role in the releasing pony. we call, and i think this leverage this influenced, it goes deeper than is really networks in washington. as the gulf countries were coming together actually bringing a particular proposal on delivering and putting on the table, putting pressure on trunk to actually deliver and put pressure. and then that will nothing on whether it's going to be present as soon as you go into that deal, it could be done. i'm quite optimistic about this. the gulf has extreme agency and a lot of power as well. the only issue is they are still not a subject enough to, to kind of use that leverage there waiting for america to take the lead of us is not going to take the lead on anything start from was to mess was voted in on a domestic agenda and so we need to reach the leadership in conjunction with testing is needed. if we need to find a tentative to tap out and help us on the ground, the time i want to come to ya see for funnel for, you'll see this is

a phase dale. we talked about the fact the phase deals all wrong. it almost designed to fail how far do you think this cease by agreement will get to will i get to reconstruction? will it get to people being able to return back to the destroyed homes? we will have to bring it with day. so it's of itself is the do not this the blue, but as we all said before, it is now in the hands of the americans to monique to and to show that the, nobody's playing games with them on both sides. and that they, this a very important agreement is implemented. and then then i think that many of the options would it be open. i want to thank all i guess andrea as craig, you'll see, belen and how about a couple weeks and thank you to for watching. now you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out there. don't com and for further discussion, go to a facebook page. that's facebook dot com,

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